[Community-Discuss] Notice of imminent reclamation of number resources

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Fri Jul 9 12:46:02 UTC 2021

I appreciate your support, but it’s not entirely fair to say that AFRINIC has refused this data as they have not yet
responded. It was a community member (Daniel Nanghaka) who made the statement that I responded to, not
AFRINIC staff.

I’m all for calling AFRINIC out when they get it wrong or when they break their own rules and/or make up new
arbitrary rules as they go, but there are plenty of times lately when they actually get it wrong, we don’t need
to accuse them for things they have not done.

Owen



> On Jul 9, 2021, at 05:29 , Mimi dy <dym5328 at gmail.com> wrote:

>

> Hello all,

>

> I share the same view as Owen and Anthony. I really fail to understand why a "member-based organization" like AFRINIC is rejecting "community members' " request for some information which is originally supposed to be disclosed to all stakeholders. All I see here is a clear abandonment of AFRINIC's core principles: OPENNESS, TRANSPARENCY, FAIRNESS. Nothing is fair and transparent about the way AFRINIC tackles the community's concerns/requests.

> I feel like we should not even be having this whole discussion. >From my understanding, an RIR exists because of the community, how is it now imposing insensitive rules, compromising the foundation of the Global Internet, and concealing info that is bound to be at the disposal of the community under any circumstances?

>

> First, Paul's queries remain unaddressed, then, normal requests are being rejected due to ambiguous privacy and disclosure reasons. We urge AFRINIC's staff for clarifications on these matters.

>

> Best regards.

>

> Le ven. 9 juil. 2021 à 12:53, Anthony Ubah <ubah.tonyiyke at gmail.com <mailto:ubah.tonyiyke at gmail.com>> a écrit :

> +1 @Owen DeLong <mailto:owen at delong.com>

> Apt.

>

> I really find it difficult to understand why a call for some measure of transparency is an issue here.

> For an organization built on the foundation of "Trust" and "Transparency" an inquiry like this should be responded to with smooth and prompt responses.

> Query on privacy clearly goes against the very principles of that very foundation.

>

> @Mike Silber <mailto:silber.mike at gmail.com>

> It's really not out of place for people to stand at opposite ends of the table view-wise, in oppinon or in ideology, and stay consistently so. It shouldn't baffle anyone, it is human nature.

> There isn't a rule of thumb that says that an issue must remain on the top burner until it strikes a chord, as is natural. Anything can trigger a spike. It is within the purview of every single member of the community to call make inquiries or to call the Board/members' inadequacies or " the quality of board minutes and voting records" into question at any time they feel the itch to do so, not necessarily at specific scheduled windows. In this case, Paul's inquiry into this is his spike, and he reserves the right to do so.

>

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Anthony Ubah

>

>

>

> On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 4:32 AM Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss <community-discuss at afrinic.net <mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>> wrote:

> Daniel,

>

> With all due respect, no, we don’t. The voting record of board members in all matters AFRINIC

> is a perfectly valid thing to consider when they come up for re-election and should be a matter

> of public record.

>

> The members have a right to know how the board is acting on their behalf and they have a right

> to know which board members are acting in what way during board meetings.

>

> Everything requested should absolutely be part of the published minutes which the community

> and board agreed should be public several years ago.

>

> There are no privacy rights of the board as a body and the board members have no right or

> expectation of privacy in board actions. The only exception should be privileged or executive

> sessions, such as those dealing with personnel matters (e.g. the firing of the CEO, salaries, etc.).

>

> This motion should not fall within that criteria since the member in question was not invited to present

> a defense and was not in attendance at the meeting.

>

> Owen

>

>> On Jul 8, 2021, at 23:55 , DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang at gmail.com <mailto:dndannang at gmail.com>> wrote:

>>

>> Dear Paul,

>>

>> I don't think who voted is of importance to the community. We need to protect the privacy of the board members.

>>

>> The information you are requesting for infringes on privacy rights of the board.

>>

>> Otherwise, thanks for your concern.

>>

>> Daniel Nanghaka

>>

>> On Fri, Jul 9, 2021, 9:49 AM Paul Wollner <paul.wollner at africaoncloud.net <mailto:paul.wollner at africaoncloud.net>> wrote:

>> To whom it may concern,

>>

>> I believe the community would be most interested to see the notice, attendance, and voting

>> record of the recent board meeting where Cloud Innovation’s membership was summarily

>> terminated without notice and without opportunity to respond or appear in their own defense.

>>

>> I think the community would be most interested to know:

>>

>> 1. Which board members agreed to the meeting on short notice?

>> 2. Which board members voted in favor of the motion and which against?

>> 3. Who tabled and who seconded the motion?

>> 4. What was the nature and extent of deliberations?

>> 5. Why the urgency to act so swiftly after the judge set aside the order?

>> 6. When was the meeting noticed?

>> 7. When did the meeting take place?

>> 8. How/where did the meeting take place?

>>

>> Regards,

>> Paul Wollner

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> ---- On Thu, 08 Jul 2021 23:14:18 +0200 Eddy Kayihura<eddy at afrinic.net <mailto:eddy at afrinic.net>> wrote ----

>>

>> Dear Colleagues,

>>

>> AFRINIC hereby informs all those concerned that it has initiated actions for the reclamation of Internet number resources from Cloud Innovation Ltd.

>>

>> On 07 July 2021, the Supreme Court of Mauritius delivered a judgement whereby the application for injunction lodged by Cloud Innovation Ltd has been set aside.

>>

>> Consequently, on 08 July 2021, AFRINIC’s Board of Directors, whilst acting reasonably and in good faith, more so, in light of the judgment of the Supreme Court of Mauritius, found that Cloud Innovation Ltd failed to honour its obligations under the Registration Service Agreement and has thus decided to terminate the membership of Cloud Innovation Ltd as well as reclaim its number resources in the following manner:

>>

>> The resources previously allocated to Cloud Innovation Ltd will be ‘frozen’ on the AFRINIC WHOIS database with Cloud Innovation Ltd no longer having access to the same.

>>

>> In order not to disrupt Internet connectivity of the relevant users especially in the current context of the COVID-19 pandemic, all affected users will exceptionally be granted a grace period of 90 days to consider other available options in their best interests. Consequently, the actual reclamation of the relevant number resources will occur following the expiry of the grace period.

>>

>>

>> Eddy Kayihura

>> Chief Executive Officer,

>> African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC)

>> ceo at afrinic.net <mailto:ceo at afrinic.net>

>> ………………………………………………………………………………………..

>>

>>

>> Chers collègues,

>>

>> AFRINIC informe toutes les personnes concernées qu'elle a entamé des actions de réclamation des ressources de numéros Internet auprès de Cloud Innovation Ltd.

>>

>> Le 07 juillet 2021, la Cour Suprême de Maurice a rendu un jugement par lequel la demande d'injonction déposée par Cloud Innovation Ltd a été rejetée.

>>

>> En conséquence, le 08 juillet 2021, le Conseil d'administration d'AFRINIC, tout en agissant raisonnablement et de bonne foi, et plus encore, à la lumière du jugement de la Cour Suprême de Maurice, a constaté que Cloud Innovation Ltd n'a pas honoré ses obligations en vertu du Contrat de Service d'Enregistrement et a donc décidé de résilier l'adhésion de Cloud Innovation Ltd ainsi que de réclamer ses ressources de numéros Internet de la manière suivante :

>>

>> Les ressources précédemment attribuées à Cloud Innovation Ltd seront "gelées" dans la base de données WHOIS d'AFRINIC et Cloud Innovation Ltd n'y aura plus accès.

>> Afin de ne pas interrompre la connectivité Internet des utilisateurs concernés, notamment dans le contexte actuel de la pandémie de COVID-19, tous les utilisateurs concernés bénéficieront exceptionnellement d'une période de grâce de 90 jours pour envisager d'autres options disponibles dans leur intérêt. Par conséquent, la réclamation effective des ressources numériques concernées aura lieu après l'expiration de la période de grâce.

>>

>>

>> Eddy Kayihura

>> Chief Executive Officer,

>> African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC)

>> ceo at afrinic.net <mailto:ceo at afrinic.net>

>> …………………………………….

>>

>>

>> زملائي الأعزاء،

>>

>>

>> تُبلغ AFRINIC بموجب هذا جميع الأطراف المعنية بأنها قد بدأت إجراءات لاسترداد موارد أرقام الإنترنت من Cloud Innovation Ltd.

>>

>> في 07 يوليو 2021 ، أصدرت المحكمة العليا لموريشيوس حكماً تم بموجبه إلغاء طلب الإنذار المقدم من شركة Cloud Innovation Ltd.

>>

>> وبالتالي ، في 08 يوليو 2021 ، وجد مجلس إدارة AFRINIC ، أثناء تصرفه بشكل معقول وبحسن نية ، في ضوء حكم المحكمة العليا لموريشيوس ، أن Cloud Innovation Ltd فشلت في الوفاء بالتزاماتها بموجب اتفاقية خدمة التسجيل وبالتالي قررت إنهاء عضوية Cloud Innovation Ltd وكذلك استعادة مواردها الرقمية بالطريقة التالية:

>>

>> سيتم "تجميد" الموارد المخصصة سابقًا لشركة Cloud Innovation Ltd في قاعدة بيانات AFRINIC WHOIS ، حيث لم يعد بإمكان Cloud Innovation Ltd الوصول إليها.

>>

>> من أجل عدم تعطيل اتصال الإنترنت للمستخدمين المعنيين خاصة في السياق الحالي لوباء COVID-19 ، سيتم منح جميع المستخدمين المتأثرين بشكل استثنائي فترة سماح مدتها 90 يومًا للنظر في الخيارات المتاحة الأخرى بما يحقق مصلحتهم الفضلى. وبالتالي ، فإن الاسترداد الفعلي لموارد الأرقام ذات الصلة سيحدث بعد انتهاء فترة السماح.

>>

>> Eddy Kayihura

>> Chief Executive Officer,

>> African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC)

>> ceo at afrinic.net <mailto:ceo at afrinic.net>

>> …………………………….

>>

>>

>> Caros Colegas,

>>

>>

>> AFRINIC informa todos os interessados que iniciou acções para a recuperação de recursos de números de Internet da Cloud Innovation Ltd.

>>

>> Em 07 de Julho de 2021, o Supremo Tribunal das Maurícias proferiu uma sentença pela qual o pedido de injunção apresentado pela Cloud Innovation Ltd foi anulado.

>>

>> Consequentemente, a 08 de Julho de 2021, o Conselho de Administração da AFRINIC, embora agindo razoavelmente e de boa fé, mais ainda, à luz do acórdão do Supremo Tribunal das Maurícias, considerou que a Cloud Innovation Ltd não honrou as suas obrigações ao abrigo do Acordo de Serviço de Registo, tendo assim decidido pôr termo à adesão da Cloud Innovation Ltd, bem como reclamar os seus recursos numéricos da seguinte forma:

>>

>> Os recursos anteriormente atribuídos à Cloud Innovation Ltd serão "congelados" na base de dados AFRINIC WHOIS, tendo a Cloud Innovation Ltd deixado de ter acesso à mesma.

>> A fim de não perturbar a conectividade Internet dos utilizadores relevantes, especialmente no actual contexto da pandemia COVID-19, todos os utilizadores afectados terão excepcionalmente um período de graça de 90 dias para considerar outras opções disponíveis no seu melhor interesse. Consequentemente, a recuperação efectiva dos recursos numéricos relevantes ocorrerá após o termo do período de carência.

>>

>> Eddy Kayihura

>> Chief Executive Officer,

>> African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC)

>> ceo at afrinic.net <mailto:ceo at afrinic.net>

>>

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