From rfg at tristatelogic.com Fri Jan 1 01:52:58 2021 From: rfg at tristatelogic.com (Ronald F. Guilmette) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 17:52:58 -0800 Subject: [Community-Discuss] Small Progress Message-ID: <94459.1609465978@segfault.tristatelogic.com> I am pleased to inform you all that there has been at least some minimal progress with respect to AFRINIC wrestling back control of many or most of the legacy IPv4 blocks that were effectively stolen from their rightful owners by Mr. Cohen, Mr. Uerlings, and others. Quietly, and without any public fanfare, it appears that AFRINIC staff, since around December 19th, have been adding annotations to the WHOIS records of many of these stolen blocks to indicate AFRINIC's recognition that these blocks were in fact stolen. For example, the WHOIS record for the 196.16.0.0/14 block which was stolen from the South African national government's in-house IT arm... formerly called "Infoplan" and long ago renamed to "SITA"... now contains the following annotations: remarks: ============REMARK=================== remarks: The custodianship of this IP prefix is presently remarks: deemed to be in dispute. Consequently, remarks: no change request pertaining to this particular remarks: prefix will be entertained by AFRINIC until the remarks: issue is finally resolved between the disputants remarks: themselves or by a competent authority. remarks: Further, whilst the current holder of the said prefix remarks: continues to hold same, AFRINIC shall bear no remarks: responsibility whatsoever in relation thereto and remarks: disputants are encouraged to resolve the said remarks: dispute expeditiously. remarks: ============REMARK==================== The AFRINIC WHOIS history of this block is shown here: https://pastebin.com/raw/m0LVuppe As anyone can clearly see, the block was originally assigned to "Infoplan" in South Africa, even in the AFRINIC records which, in the case of this specific block, have been partially "disappeared" via a process that AFRINIC has yet to explain. Additional records relating to this same block, and which go back even further in time... all the way back to January 28, 1994... are readily available from ARIN's "WhoWas" historical data service. These even earlier historical records also confirm 100% that this block was formally assigned to Infoplan (now named SITA) in January, 1994. As anyone can also see from the AFRINIC historical records for this block, the contact mailing address for this block was changed, on or about 2015-01-23, to be an address in the Seychelles Islands. So you have to ask yourself: Why would an entity that is part of the South African national government suddely relocate itself to the Seychelles Islands? Obviously, it wouldn't. That is nonsensical on the face of it. So what really happened here? There are only two plausible possibilities: Either (a) the block was simply stolen, by messers Cohen, Uerlings, and Byaruhanga, via some clever and illicit manipluation of the relevant AFRINIC WHOIS records, or else (b) someone within the South African government received some payment in exchange for the legitimate rights to this block... either with or without the knowledge and consent of the South African government itself. Personally, I find the second possibility, (b), to be implausible, not because I believe that South African government officials are universally immune to a little private bribery, but only because I have personally spoken to a number of the other parties and entities that have also and likewise had their legacy AFRINIC IPv4 address blocks stolen out from under them, for example, the South African commercial metals company known as Columbus Stainless (160.115.0.0/16), and also to managers and technical people associated with South Africa's state-owned oil company, Sasol, which also had its 155.237.0.0/16 block "liberated" from their control, temporarily at least, in some still-mysterious way. These are just two examples of the several AFRINIC legacy block holders that have had their stuff stolen, and that I have personally spoken to on multiple occasions. IN ALL CASES, when I was able to make contact with the real and legitimate legacy block owners those legitimate owners universally expressed astonishment when I informed them that they were no longer in control of their own assigned IP address assets. Since my initial contacts with these various victim organizations, several of them, including the two mentioned above, as well as the City of Cape Town and others, have moved swiftly to regain control of what was stolen from them. Were insiders at literally ALL of these commercial companies and government- owned organizations bribed to give up company assets to messers Cohen and Uerlings? I don't think so. That notion really stretches the bounds of credibility. That leaves us with possibility (a) which is just that -somehow- the WHOIS records were illicitly manipulated in some manner, by some party, so as to provide effective control of the blocks to messers Cohen and Uerlings, and also to Mr. Abizeid and Mr. Mehta. Nonetheless, Mr. Cohen has gone to court, ostensibly to reclaim his rights with respect to more than 20 different large AFRINIC legacy blocks, all /16 or larger, which he claims to have legitimately paid for. An honest man has nothing to hide, and Mr. Cohen could clear this all up very easily by just showing us all copies of the checks he claims to have written in order to purchase all of these 20 or so AFRINIC legacy blocks. So far he seems entirely reluctant to do that. It doesn't take a genius to figure out why. If he did show us the checks, this entire ludicrous and convoluted theft scheme would come crashing down around him, and he knows it. (He may have written those checks to his cohort in crime, Mr. Uerlings or to one of Mr. Uerlings shell companies, or he may have written the checks to Ernest, or to one of Ernest's shell companies, or he may even have written the checks to some other and different crooked high-level AFRINIC insider who held an even more senior position than Ernest, back in the 201-2015 time frame, but he most certainly DID NOT write those checks to any of the actual and legitimate legacy blocks owners.) Instead of just showing us his payment checks, or even the purchase reciepts for the IP address assets that he claims to have legitimately "bought", Mr. Cohen has instead tried repeatedly and in every way he can think of to simply browbeat, harass, and intimidate AFRINIC into submission. His delusional rantings here got him banned, so now he has invented multiple sock puppet email accounts to circumvent that ban so that he can continue his delusional and fact-free public ranting.... as if anybody is at all likely to believe anything that either he or his multiple sock puppets might say at this point. Unfortunately for Mr. Cohen, none of his rather silly attemps to intimidate AFRINIC are working, and none of them will work, because there are just too many actual and independently verifiable facts on the table at this point. But Mr. Cohen has several million reasons ($$$) to hope against hope that he can somehow still keep his stolen stuff, so he is motivated to keep on trying, even though literally all of the facts are against him. This pitiful public spectacle is sad to watch, but like our Mr. Trump here in the U.S., Mr. Cohen is in denial, and is simply having trouble emotionally processing the fact that he has already lost. Regards, rfg P.S. I suppose that whoever is administering the AFRINIC mailing lists could be doing a somewhat better job of filtering out posting from Cohen's various sock puppet free email accounts, but I personally don't mind if they don't. Every time he posts to the mailing lists using one of his sock puppet identities he simply adds to the already abundant evidence that he thinks the rules don't apply to him, and he also adds to the equally abundant evidence that he's not an entirely well man. From noah at neo.co.tz Sat Jan 2 10:06:29 2021 From: noah at neo.co.tz (Noah) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2021 13:06:29 +0300 Subject: [Community-Discuss] Small Progress In-Reply-To: <94459.1609465978@segfault.tristatelogic.com> References: <94459.1609465978@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Message-ID: Ronald, Don't mind the sock puppets and trolls, like my good friend Nishal indicated after all its often hard to dispute facts because fact are facts. Noah Your apparent sidekick :-) On Fri, 1 Jan 2021, 04:57 Ronald F. Guilmette, wrote: > I am pleased to inform you all that there has been at least some minimal > progress with respect to AFRINIC wrestling back control of many or most > of the legacy IPv4 blocks that were effectively stolen from their > rightful owners by Mr. Cohen, Mr. Uerlings, and others. > > Quietly, and without any public fanfare, it appears that AFRINIC staff, > since around December 19th, have been adding annotations to the WHOIS > records of many of these stolen blocks to indicate AFRINIC's recognition > that these blocks were in fact stolen. > > For example, the WHOIS record for the 196.16.0.0/14 block which was stolen > from the South African national government's in-house IT arm... formerly > called "Infoplan" and long ago renamed to "SITA"... now contains the > following annotations: > > remarks: ============REMARK=================== > remarks: The custodianship of this IP prefix is presently > remarks: deemed to be in dispute. Consequently, > remarks: no change request pertaining to this particular > remarks: prefix will be entertained by AFRINIC until the > remarks: issue is finally resolved between the disputants > remarks: themselves or by a competent authority. > remarks: Further, whilst the current holder of the said prefix > remarks: continues to hold same, AFRINIC shall bear no > remarks: responsibility whatsoever in relation thereto and > remarks: disputants are encouraged to resolve the said > remarks: dispute expeditiously. > remarks: ============REMARK==================== > > The AFRINIC WHOIS history of this block is shown here: > > https://pastebin.com/raw/m0LVuppe > > As anyone can clearly see, the block was originally assigned to "Infoplan" > in South Africa, even in the AFRINIC records which, in the case of this > specific block, have been partially "disappeared" via a process that > AFRINIC has yet to explain. > > Additional records relating to this same block, and which go back even > further in time... all the way back to January 28, 1994... are readily > available from ARIN's "WhoWas" historical data service. These even > earlier historical records also confirm 100% that this block was formally > assigned to Infoplan (now named SITA) in January, 1994. > > As anyone can also see from the AFRINIC historical records for this block, > the contact mailing address for this block was changed, on or about > 2015-01-23, to be an address in the Seychelles Islands. So you have to > ask yourself: Why would an entity that is part of the South African > national government suddely relocate itself to the Seychelles Islands? > > Obviously, it wouldn't. That is nonsensical on the face of it. So what > really happened here? > > There are only two plausible possibilities: Either (a) the block was > simply > stolen, by messers Cohen, Uerlings, and Byaruhanga, via some clever and > illicit manipluation of the relevant AFRINIC WHOIS records, or else (b) > someone within the South African government received some payment in > exchange for the legitimate rights to this block... either with or without > the knowledge and consent of the South African government itself. > > Personally, I find the second possibility, (b), to be implausible, not > because I believe that South African government officials are universally > immune to a little private bribery, but only because I have personally > spoken to a number of the other parties and entities that have also and > likewise had their legacy AFRINIC IPv4 address blocks stolen out from > under them, for example, the South African commercial metals company known > as Columbus Stainless (160.115.0.0/16), and also to managers and technical > people associated with South Africa's state-owned oil company, Sasol, > which also had its 155.237.0.0/16 block "liberated" from their control, > temporarily at least, in some still-mysterious way. > > These are just two examples of the several AFRINIC legacy block holders > that have had their stuff stolen, and that I have personally spoken to > on multiple occasions. IN ALL CASES, when I was able to make contact > with the real and legitimate legacy block owners those legitimate owners > universally expressed astonishment when I informed them that they were > no longer in control of their own assigned IP address assets. Since my > initial contacts with these various victim organizations, several of them, > including the two mentioned above, as well as the City of Cape Town and > others, have moved swiftly to regain control of what was stolen from them. > > Were insiders at literally ALL of these commercial companies and > government- > owned organizations bribed to give up company assets to messers Cohen and > Uerlings? I don't think so. That notion really stretches the bounds of > credibility. > > That leaves us with possibility (a) which is just that -somehow- the WHOIS > records were illicitly manipulated in some manner, by some party, so as > to provide effective control of the blocks to messers Cohen and Uerlings, > and also to Mr. Abizeid and Mr. Mehta. > > Nonetheless, Mr. Cohen has gone to court, ostensibly to reclaim his rights > with respect to more than 20 different large AFRINIC legacy blocks, all /16 > or larger, which he claims to have legitimately paid for. > > An honest man has nothing to hide, and Mr. Cohen could clear this all up > very easily by just showing us all copies of the checks he claims to have > written in order to purchase all of these 20 or so AFRINIC legacy blocks. > > So far he seems entirely reluctant to do that. It doesn't take a genius > to figure out why. If he did show us the checks, this entire ludicrous > and convoluted theft scheme would come crashing down around him, and he > knows it. (He may have written those checks to his cohort in crime, Mr. > Uerlings or to one of Mr. Uerlings shell companies, or he may have written > the checks to Ernest, or to one of Ernest's shell companies, or he may > even have written the checks to some other and different crooked high-level > AFRINIC insider who held an even more senior position than Ernest, back in > the 201-2015 time frame, but he most certainly DID NOT write those checks > to any of the actual and legitimate legacy blocks owners.) > > Instead of just showing us his payment checks, or even the purchase > reciepts > for the IP address assets that he claims to have legitimately "bought", > Mr. Cohen has instead tried repeatedly and in every way he can think of > to simply browbeat, harass, and intimidate AFRINIC into submission. His > delusional rantings here got him banned, so now he has invented multiple > sock puppet email accounts to circumvent that ban so that he can continue > his delusional and fact-free public ranting.... as if anybody is at all > likely to believe anything that either he or his multiple sock puppets > might say at this point. > > Unfortunately for Mr. Cohen, none of his rather silly attemps to intimidate > AFRINIC are working, and none of them will work, because there are just too > many actual and independently verifiable facts on the table at this point. > But Mr. Cohen has several million reasons ($$$) to hope against hope that > he can somehow still keep his stolen stuff, so he is motivated to keep on > trying, even though literally all of the facts are against him. This > pitiful public spectacle is sad to watch, but like our Mr. Trump here in > the U.S., Mr. Cohen is in denial, and is simply having trouble emotionally > processing the fact that he has already lost. > > > Regards, > rfg > > > P.S. I suppose that whoever is administering the AFRINIC mailing lists > could be doing a somewhat better job of filtering out posting from Cohen's > various sock puppet free email accounts, but I personally don't mind if > they don't. Every time he posts to the mailing lists using one of his > sock puppet identities he simply adds to the already abundant evidence > that he thinks the rules don't apply to him, and he also adds to the > equally abundant evidence that he's not an entirely well man. > > _______________________________________________ > Community-Discuss mailing list > Community-Discuss at afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amelnaud at gmail.com Sat Jan 2 12:03:02 2021 From: amelnaud at gmail.com (Arnaud AMELINA) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2021 12:03:02 +0000 Subject: [Community-Discuss] Small Progress In-Reply-To: References: <94459.1609465978@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Message-ID: +1 @Noah Le sam. 2 janv. 2021 ? 10:09, Noah a ?crit : > Ronald, > > Don't mind the sock puppets and trolls, like my good friend Nishal > indicated after all its often hard to dispute facts because fact are facts. > > Noah > Your apparent sidekick :-) > > On Fri, 1 Jan 2021, 04:57 Ronald F. Guilmette, > wrote: > >> I am pleased to inform you all that there has been at least some minimal >> progress with respect to AFRINIC wrestling back control of many or most >> of the legacy IPv4 blocks that were effectively stolen from their >> rightful owners by Mr. Cohen, Mr. Uerlings, and others. >> >> Quietly, and without any public fanfare, it appears that AFRINIC staff, >> since around December 19th, have been adding annotations to the WHOIS >> records of many of these stolen blocks to indicate AFRINIC's recognition >> that these blocks were in fact stolen. >> >> For example, the WHOIS record for the 196.16.0.0/14 block which was >> stolen >> from the South African national government's in-house IT arm... formerly >> called "Infoplan" and long ago renamed to "SITA"... now contains the >> following annotations: >> >> remarks: ============REMARK=================== >> remarks: The custodianship of this IP prefix is presently >> remarks: deemed to be in dispute. Consequently, >> remarks: no change request pertaining to this particular >> remarks: prefix will be entertained by AFRINIC until the >> remarks: issue is finally resolved between the disputants >> remarks: themselves or by a competent authority. >> remarks: Further, whilst the current holder of the said prefix >> remarks: continues to hold same, AFRINIC shall bear no >> remarks: responsibility whatsoever in relation thereto and >> remarks: disputants are encouraged to resolve the said >> remarks: dispute expeditiously. >> remarks: ============REMARK==================== >> >> The AFRINIC WHOIS history of this block is shown here: >> >> https://pastebin.com/raw/m0LVuppe >> >> As anyone can clearly see, the block was originally assigned to "Infoplan" >> in South Africa, even in the AFRINIC records which, in the case of this >> specific block, have been partially "disappeared" via a process that >> AFRINIC has yet to explain. >> >> Additional records relating to this same block, and which go back even >> further in time... all the way back to January 28, 1994... are readily >> available from ARIN's "WhoWas" historical data service. These even >> earlier historical records also confirm 100% that this block was formally >> assigned to Infoplan (now named SITA) in January, 1994. >> >> As anyone can also see from the AFRINIC historical records for this block, >> the contact mailing address for this block was changed, on or about >> 2015-01-23, to be an address in the Seychelles Islands. So you have to >> ask yourself: Why would an entity that is part of the South African >> national government suddely relocate itself to the Seychelles Islands? >> >> Obviously, it wouldn't. That is nonsensical on the face of it. So what >> really happened here? >> >> There are only two plausible possibilities: Either (a) the block was >> simply >> stolen, by messers Cohen, Uerlings, and Byaruhanga, via some clever and >> illicit manipluation of the relevant AFRINIC WHOIS records, or else (b) >> someone within the South African government received some payment in >> exchange for the legitimate rights to this block... either with or without >> the knowledge and consent of the South African government itself. >> >> Personally, I find the second possibility, (b), to be implausible, not >> because I believe that South African government officials are universally >> immune to a little private bribery, but only because I have personally >> spoken to a number of the other parties and entities that have also and >> likewise had their legacy AFRINIC IPv4 address blocks stolen out from >> under them, for example, the South African commercial metals company known >> as Columbus Stainless (160.115.0.0/16), and also to managers and >> technical >> people associated with South Africa's state-owned oil company, Sasol, >> which also had its 155.237.0.0/16 block "liberated" from their control, >> temporarily at least, in some still-mysterious way. >> >> These are just two examples of the several AFRINIC legacy block holders >> that have had their stuff stolen, and that I have personally spoken to >> on multiple occasions. IN ALL CASES, when I was able to make contact >> with the real and legitimate legacy block owners those legitimate owners >> universally expressed astonishment when I informed them that they were >> no longer in control of their own assigned IP address assets. Since my >> initial contacts with these various victim organizations, several of them, >> including the two mentioned above, as well as the City of Cape Town and >> others, have moved swiftly to regain control of what was stolen from them. >> >> Were insiders at literally ALL of these commercial companies and >> government- >> owned organizations bribed to give up company assets to messers Cohen and >> Uerlings? I don't think so. That notion really stretches the bounds of >> credibility. >> >> That leaves us with possibility (a) which is just that -somehow- the WHOIS >> records were illicitly manipulated in some manner, by some party, so as >> to provide effective control of the blocks to messers Cohen and Uerlings, >> and also to Mr. Abizeid and Mr. Mehta. >> >> Nonetheless, Mr. Cohen has gone to court, ostensibly to reclaim his rights >> with respect to more than 20 different large AFRINIC legacy blocks, all >> /16 >> or larger, which he claims to have legitimately paid for. >> >> An honest man has nothing to hide, and Mr. Cohen could clear this all up >> very easily by just showing us all copies of the checks he claims to have >> written in order to purchase all of these 20 or so AFRINIC legacy blocks. >> >> So far he seems entirely reluctant to do that. It doesn't take a genius >> to figure out why. If he did show us the checks, this entire ludicrous >> and convoluted theft scheme would come crashing down around him, and he >> knows it. (He may have written those checks to his cohort in crime, Mr. >> Uerlings or to one of Mr. Uerlings shell companies, or he may have written >> the checks to Ernest, or to one of Ernest's shell companies, or he may >> even have written the checks to some other and different crooked >> high-level >> AFRINIC insider who held an even more senior position than Ernest, back in >> the 201-2015 time frame, but he most certainly DID NOT write those checks >> to any of the actual and legitimate legacy blocks owners.) >> >> Instead of just showing us his payment checks, or even the purchase >> reciepts >> for the IP address assets that he claims to have legitimately "bought", >> Mr. Cohen has instead tried repeatedly and in every way he can think of >> to simply browbeat, harass, and intimidate AFRINIC into submission. His >> delusional rantings here got him banned, so now he has invented multiple >> sock puppet email accounts to circumvent that ban so that he can continue >> his delusional and fact-free public ranting.... as if anybody is at all >> likely to believe anything that either he or his multiple sock puppets >> might say at this point. >> >> Unfortunately for Mr. Cohen, none of his rather silly attemps to >> intimidate >> AFRINIC are working, and none of them will work, because there are just >> too >> many actual and independently verifiable facts on the table at this point. >> But Mr. Cohen has several million reasons ($$$) to hope against hope that >> he can somehow still keep his stolen stuff, so he is motivated to keep on >> trying, even though literally all of the facts are against him. This >> pitiful public spectacle is sad to watch, but like our Mr. Trump here in >> the U.S., Mr. Cohen is in denial, and is simply having trouble emotionally >> processing the fact that he has already lost. >> >> >> Regards, >> rfg >> >> >> P.S. I suppose that whoever is administering the AFRINIC mailing lists >> could be doing a somewhat better job of filtering out posting from Cohen's >> various sock puppet free email accounts, but I personally don't mind if >> they don't. 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URL: From nishal at controlfreak.co.za Tue Jan 5 09:26:42 2021 From: nishal at controlfreak.co.za (Nishal Goburdhan) Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 11:26:42 +0200 Subject: [Community-Discuss] [afnog] Updates on the misappropriation of IPv4 resources In-Reply-To: References: <58819.1608870780@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Message-ID: <2104B9B0-2887-459F-89E5-4728C161B18F@controlfreak.co.za> On 31 Dec 2020, at 17:56, Noah wrote: > If that bogon ASN still continues to be routed by another AS thanks for cleaning that up. this is a PSA that the cidr-report produces a report for these. see: https://www.cidr-report.org/as2.0/bogus-as-advertisements.html -n. From mark.tinka at seacom.com Tue Jan 5 10:40:14 2021 From: mark.tinka at seacom.com (Mark Tinka) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 12:40:14 +0200 Subject: [Community-Discuss] [afnog] Updates on the misappropriation of IPv4 resources In-Reply-To: <58819.1608870780@segfault.tristatelogic.com> References: <58819.1608870780@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Message-ID: <72830c19-4d53-aba0-56b6-fec2a60fa07d@seacom.com> On 12/25/20 06:33, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > As regards to your "network freeze" I have no idea what that means. https://lmgtfy.app/?q=what+is+a+network+freezehttps://lmgtfy.app/?q=what+is+a+network+freezehttps://bfy.tw/Q40g Mark. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From comms at afrinic.net Fri Jan 8 10:29:47 2021 From: comms at afrinic.net (AFRINIC Communication) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 14:29:47 +0400 Subject: [Community-Discuss] ASO AC & IANA RC Teleconferences: Invitation for the Community to Participate as Observers Message-ID: [Sent on behalf of the ASO AC and IANA RC] Dear Colleagues, The ASO [1] is one of ICANN?s three Supporting Organizations. They review and develop recommendations on Internet Protocol (IP) address policy and advise the ICANN Board on policy issues relating to the operation, assignment, and management of IP addresses. The ASO Address Council (ASO AC) [2] hold monthly teleconferences, usually on the first Wednesday of each month, with exceptions to avoid clashes with Regional Internet Registry meetings and other meetings relevant to the Internet Numbers Community. Likewise, the IANA Review Committee (IANA RC) [3] advises the NRO EC in its annual review of the service level of the IANA Numbering Services provided to the Regional Internet Registries. The IANA RC hold three or four teleconference meetings each year, on dates agreed by the members to prepare their annual report. The dates for the 2021 meetings of both groups are currently being updated and are available at the following links: ASO AC Meeting Schedule: https://aso.icann.org/aso-ac/meetings/aso-ac-meeting-schedule/ IANA RC Meetings Schedule: https://www.nro.net/accountability/operational/iana-numbering-services-review-committee/iana-rc-meetings/ Both the ASO AC and the IANA RC meetings are open to observers. Zoom information is published at the above URLs on the eve of each meeting. =============== [1] Address Supporting Organization: https://aso.icann.org/ [2] Address Supporting Organization Address Council: https://aso.icann.org/aso-ac/ [3] IANA Review Committee: https://www.nro.net/accountability/operational/iana-numbering-services-review-committee/ From amelnaud at gmail.com Mon Jan 11 16:54:11 2021 From: amelnaud at gmail.com (Arnaud AMELINA) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 16:54:11 +0000 Subject: [Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders in AfriNIC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would just offer community consultation.. If you think AFRINIC is misbehaving, prove the legitimacy of your rights to use the delegated ressources or your control over the legacy resources and the community will help address your case. It should be as simple as that. Regards !!! *Happy and Wonderful New Year To All *!!! -- Arnaud Le lun. 4 janv. 2021 ? 14:27, Ron via Community-Discuss < community-discuss at afrinic.net> a ?crit : > Request to all AFRINIC members whose resources are confiscated by AFRINIC > and to those who are having legal issues with AFRINIC. > Our experienced legal team can help you recover all your resources. > Litigation is our expertise and we give 100% guarantee on our cases. > No recovery of resources = NO FEE. > No advance payment or retainer fee. > _______________________________________________ > Community-Discuss mailing list > Community-Discuss at afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From owen at delong.com Mon Jan 11 17:31:15 2021 From: owen at delong.com (Owen DeLong) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 09:31:15 -0800 Subject: [Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders in AfriNIC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > On Oct 26, 2020, at 12:30 , Elad Cohen wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > AfriNIC are trying to impose all of their adopted policies on any legacy resource and on any legacy resource holder, even ones that didn't sign any RSA. In the legal case that I initiated. This is appropriate. The RSA is a useful document spelling out the rights and responsibilities of AfriNIC customers who are entitled to services from AfriNIC. If you didn?t sign an RSA, then you?re not a customer and anything AfriNIC does for you is essentially a gracious favor, not something you are entitled to. The lack of an RSA does not entitle you to violate the policies set by the community for the administration of number resource registrations. > AfriNIC, including the CEO of AfriNIC are hiding it from the community. AFRINIC CEO is hiding it in his latest report as well when he linked in it to the "Legacy Resource Holders" (https://afrinic.net/membership/legacy-resource ) while in the legal case AfriNIC are secretly and hiddenly trying to impose all the adopted policies (that are contractual in RSA) on any legacy resource holder that didn't sign an RSA. There?s nothing secret or hidden about it, this is the expected result. The policies are mentioned in the RSA, but they are not limited to the RSA. They are the policies set by the community for how AfriNIC is expected to administer the registration of number resources that are under AfriNIC administration as part of a cooperating regional internet registry system. If you didn?t sign any sort of agreement with AfriNIC, then I question where you think you obtained any sort of entitlement to AfriNIC services whatsoever, let alone entitlement to those services while not complying with the policies by which they are expected to be administered. > If AfriNIC will win the legal case - it will mean legacy netblocks are no longer legacy, and that there are obligations between legacy resource holders to AfriNIC and that if AfriNIC decide so then they can take legacy netblocks and they can delete them and they will be able to legally decide whatever they will want regarding any legacy netblock. No sir, you are mistaken here. There has never been any such thing as legacy net blocks. There are only legacy registrations. For the sake of continuity and sane operation of the internet, holders of legacy registrations have generally been allowed to preserve their reservations without contractual obligation on the part of the RIRs. This also means that said resource holders have no obligation to the RIR, but since you?re depending on the RIR doing you a favor to maintain your registration, it seems to me that there?s no obligation on their part to maintain your registration if you refuse to comply with the policies set by the community for managing that registration. > I also would like to mention one more thing, regarding the statement of AfriNIC CEO to the community on 31th of Janaury 2020: https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-January/003458.html > Regarding the sentence: "We are also ensuring that the current holder/contact of the resources are provided with the opportunity of proving their ownership" - AfriNIC CEO lied to the community here because my email replies to AfriNIC were completely ignored (the reason known to me now is because there was an "email forwarder" set and the replies came from my main email address, with the correspondence of AfriNIC, just like with any "email forwarding" functionality). While on other occasions AfriNIC didn't ignore email messages coming from recipients after "email forwarding?. There?s just no way to parse that into any sort of actionable information. > AfriNIC deleted my netblocks that I purchased legally after they lied to the community according to the above sentence, and after they received more than 30+ email notification over a period of years to their "notify:" hostmaster at afrinic.net email address regarding them. When you say that you purchased these net blocks legally, you?re going to have to clarify what you mean here. Purchased from whom? What process did you go through to transfer the registration rights to those net blocks with the respective RIR? Did you sign a contract with the RIR obligating said RIR to provide you services? Did you pay fees to said RIR in the process? If not, then what makes you think you are entitled to some form of service from said RIR? What contract obligates them to do anything for you? > Just one more point, nobody in the community is asking regarding all the non-legacy netblocks that were spread over for "free", including /11's ... when there was also a data loss ... only the legacy netblocks of me which I purchased legally and with money (didn't receive for "free") are interesting. I hope that the above will open your eyes. I won?t resort to name calling or ad hominem, but I will point out that your claim here with no offer of evidence and no proof of legitimacy does bear a striking resemblance to the statements of a certain soon to be former US president. Owen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From owen at delong.com Mon Jan 11 17:48:01 2021 From: owen at delong.com (Owen DeLong) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 09:48:01 -0800 Subject: [Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders in AfriNIC In-Reply-To: References: <05751329-1002-4A8C-9CB0-318882CB984E@me.com> <49298.1604105023@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Message-ID: <6DFCD6C0-6AAB-4FDB-AE33-4177BE618F33@delong.com> > Since we dont have purview if these litigations, we can only imagine the amount of fraud that has been going on under the carpet. > > By the way, Cohen was wonderibg why you dont also talk about some other AFRINIC net blocks that my good friend Owen once claimed that there is nothing to see there even though most of them are being originated in the USA. I must ask, Noah, why you are connecting Cohen with the address blocks you are questioning from before? There was truly nothing to see there and your original complaint was _NOT_ about the address blocks, but about an error which caused your ASN to erroneously appear as an originator of the BGP advertisements in question. As soon as that problem was called to the attention of the resource holder, the announcements were stopped posthaste and that should have been the end of it. Instead of contacting the resource holder directly using the available whois information, however, you chose to make a public spectacle on this mailing list and when it was pointed out that this was the result of a simple error made by a 3rd party two-steps removed, you still wanted spectacle instead of resolution. Nonetheless, you got resolution in addition to some of the spectacle you desired. It appears you are still unsatisfied with the amount of spectacle you were able to achieve and you now try to conflate that issue with Mr. Cohen?s situation even though there is no connection whatsoever (at least to the best of my knowledge) between Mr. Cohen and Larus. > What is more baffling is that its a lot of space and guess what, the members doesn't seem to have a known ASN. Please point me to the section of the CPM which requires a member holding IPv4 number resources to have an ASN. If you can?t do that, then please explain what you are on about here because it makes little sense to me. > To paraphrase Cohen; What is that all about? If you believe that Larus has committed number resource fraud, then present your evidence to AfriNIC and let them investigate. If you believe that Larus has violated AfriNIC number resource policy or their RSA, then present your evidence to AfriNIC and let them investigate. If you have no evidence, then perhaps you could consider ending this trolling of the community trying to stir up trouble where you have no evidence of wrongdoing. Perhaps we need to expand the CoC to prohibit acts of blatant demagoguery intended to foment negative attitudes towards members of the community. > Frankly, the fact that Mr. Cohen has not already been shown the door > entirely, with respect to the mailing lists *and* with respect to the > WHOIS data base is beyond my poor ability to fathom. > > AFRINIC has its own internal processes, and its a matter of time. Eddy has periodically updated the community to your dissatisfaction. > > More than you, the community anxiously awaits the end of this which must also ensure that folks are held accountable because only a fool would think all this just happened by itself. I find it very amusing, Noah, that you are able in the same email to criticize the conduct of Mr. Cohen and RFG while failing to recognize that you are doing essentially the same thing in bringing up a long-settled issue over a configuration error trying to make more of it than it was. Owen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From owen at delong.com Mon Jan 11 18:13:43 2021 From: owen at delong.com (Owen DeLong) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 10:13:43 -0800 Subject: [Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders in AfriNIC In-Reply-To: <34045.1604624137@segfault.tristatelogic.com> References: <34045.1604624137@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Message-ID: <826D0FE7-AF3B-4072-B6F0-CF2D37AEF331@delong.com> > There are many reasons to be "conservative" about the world's dwindling > supply of IPv4 addresses. Like petrochemicals extracted from the earth, > the stuff may flow freely and abundantly now, even to the point where > we all feel free to squander what remains, but someday our profligate > human nature will, I'm sure, come back to haunt us, and we will wake up > with a hell of a hangover. Like the transition from fossil fuels towards electricity as a primary means of energy transfer and storage (and the related transition to renewable sources of energy for production of electricity), there is an in-progress transition from scarce and dysfunctional IPv4 to abundant and slightly less dysfunctional IPv6. While some level of conservation is warranted in both cases (In the case of fossil fuels more due to the damaging nature of their use than due to the shortage of supply), the simple reality is that limiting consumption is not necessarily conservation. It might just be a form of rationing. > Ardent proponents of IPv6 will no doubt disagree with this view, but I do > believe that their views are still influenced more by hope than by current > day-to-day reality on the ground. The proof of IPv4's ongoing importance > is visible everwhere, for those that would but look for it. Speaking from > my own direct experience, of which I have a great deal, 99 spammers out > of 100 still to this day rely exclusively on IPv4 for the simple and > obvious reason that this maximizes their connectivity to the places they > wish to spam. In fact, I receive far more than 1% (nearly 45%) of my SPAM over IPv6 these days. I don?t know to what extent that represents which spammers (not something I?ve really even tried to research), but I have to believe that it very likely represents more than 1% of spammers. (though it is technically possible that 45% of my SPAM comes from the very effective 1% of spammers while the other 55% is distributed among 99% of far less effective spammers still using IPv4 exclusively). In the latter case, it would certainly seem to discredit the argument that IPv4-only is the most effective way to spam. > And by the way, yes, I do believe that I slipped a digit when I was trying > to calculate the total value of all of the IPv4 address space that was > gifted to AFRINIC by the other RIRs at the time of its inception, and > that a more accurate assesment of the total current open market value of > these assets likely exceeds $2.5 billion USD. And rather humorously, the > various RIRs, including but not limited to AFRINIC have somehow persuaded, > and continue to persuade their respective financial auditors to simply > close their eyes and look the other way whenever the subject of these most > valuable assets comes up. You can see this for yourself in past AFRINIC > auditor-generated financial statments, e.g. the one I looked at from 2015. > Nowhere are these most valuable assets of AFRINIC or the other RIRs ever > even considered to be assets... a most astonishing example of what would > appear on the face of it to be gross professional malpractice on the part > of the auditors, the size of which dwarfs even the national budgets of > several entire non-trivial countries. The address space was not gifted or even transferred. The authority of registration is what was transferred. The RIR system operates by guaranteeing uniqueness of registration by providing exclusivity through mechanisms which intend to ensure that each address is tied to a specific RIR which has the exclusive and sole authority and responsibility for maintaining the registration data for that particular address. The RIRs do not own address space and neither do the registrants. Address space is merely integers. Claiming to own 5 is facially absurd as is claiming ownership of any other integer. What is traded when people talk about buying/selling IP addresses is not the addresses themselves, but the right to update the registration database in the RIRs. The true beauty of the system is that the RIRs are not magical. They are not legal authorities. Their authority is held in check by the fact that the value of the registry system is limited by the willingness of ISPs to treat that data as an authoritative set of rights to use the numbers for a particular purpose. Namely uniquely addressing systems on a collectively administered set of interconnected networks commonly referred to as ?the Internet?. If an ISP chooses to disregard the RIRs and start issuing random numbers to their customers and announcing them to those willing to peer with them, the only thing that stops that ISP is not a legal challenge, but the fact that the set of networks willing to peer with them will shrink to meaningless and the fact that the networks that remain willing to peer with them will at least have those announcements ignored/blocked by the vast majority of their peers. It is failure to understand these details of how the RIR system works and how the separation of routing authority from the RIR system preserves bidirectoinal accountability between the two which leads to unreasonable expectations and overestimation of the authority present in the RIRs. Owen From owen at delong.com Mon Jan 11 22:39:15 2021 From: owen at delong.com (Owen DeLong) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 14:39:15 -0800 Subject: [Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders in AfriNIC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7E2AE999-FF74-4345-BF29-DC84400AA52D@delong.com> Could the list administrators please take appropriate action regarding this unsolicited commercial advertisement which I believe violates the list ToU/CoC? Much appreciated. Owen > On Jan 4, 2021, at 6:24 AM, Ron via Community-Discuss wrote: > > Request to all AFRINIC members whose resources are confiscated by AFRINIC and to those who are having legal issues with AFRINIC. > Our experienced legal team can help you recover all your resources. > Litigation is our expertise and we give 100% guarantee on our cases. > No recovery of resources = NO FEE. > No advance payment or retainer fee. > _______________________________________________ > Community-Discuss mailing list > Community-Discuss at afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss From owen at delong.com Mon Jan 11 22:47:05 2021 From: owen at delong.com (Owen DeLong) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 14:47:05 -0800 Subject: [Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders in AfriNIC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6FA74469-2DC5-4CE8-9A6E-13A785329736@delong.com> Normally, I wouldn?t do this as I consider it impolite to post someone?s private message without their consent. However, I consider Mr. Cohen?s complaint that he?s unable to say this publicly to be his tacit approval to my posting it. Below please find an email I received from Mr. Cohen and my response. > On Jan 11, 2021, at 9:37 AM, Elad Cohen wrote: > > You are a very big hero Owen to write lies in Afrinic community-discuss when I cannot reply to you in the mailing lists due to the complaints of you and your friends. Clearly you have replied to me and I have made no complaint against you to list administrators. > Let me remind to you and to everyone that you admit to receive money from a business competitor of mine and you also wrote that "there is nothing to see here" (in community-discuss mailing list) regarding complaints towards your employer that received /11's for "free", your employer also want to receive my legacy netblocks for "free" from Afrinic? I never denied that I received money from Larus. If Larus is your competitor, then so be it. To the best of my knowledge, Larus runs a legitimate operation in compliance with policies as written. To date, Larus has never been more than a client of my consulting services, never my employer, so your referring to (I presume Larus) above as my employer is a typical example of your rather loose association with factual reality. To the best of my knowledge, Larus is not currently pursuing any additional allocations or assignments from AfriNIC at this time. Further, to the best of my knowledge, they never received space from AfriNIC for free and have always been a paying member operating under an RSA for their resources. Can you make the same claim? Finally, whether resource registration rights were obtained directly from a previous registry for free, obtained from an RIR with appropriate fees paid, or obtained through a legitimate transfer, they should still all be subject to the same policies and administrative process. As such, I?m having trouble understanding how your constant reference to having paid (presumably some third party) for the resources becomes AfriNIC?s problem or responsibility or in any way is material to your argument here. Owen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark.tinka at seacom.com Tue Jan 19 13:38:32 2021 From: mark.tinka at seacom.com (Mark Tinka) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2021 15:38:32 +0200 Subject: [Community-Discuss] Fwd: [apops] APRICOT 2021 call for presentations reminder In-Reply-To: <3b01c26c-50c8-5c5d-44a1-f5b73eab0ff1@apricot.net> References: <3b01c26c-50c8-5c5d-44a1-f5b73eab0ff1@apricot.net> Message-ID: <1cf47e3c-0013-116d-11f7-9ec2ff4115c4@seacom.com> FYI. Mark. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [apops] APRICOT 2021 call for presentations reminder Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2021 17:59:19 +1000 From: Philip Smith Organization: Asia Pacific Regional Conference on Operational Technologies To: apops at apops.net Hi everyone, This is a short reminder that the call for papers for APRICOT 2021 is still open and the PC is eagerly awaiting your presentation or tutorial proposals. Please do not wait until the last minute, as the PC is filling the programme on a first-come first-served basis. Please submit on-line at: http://papers.apricot.net/user/login.php?event=128 Note that APRICOT 2021 is a virtual event, entirely on-line. Because of this, the PC will only accept Peering and IXP Personals prior to the event starting. Submissions must be of a single slide listing the operator's PeeringDB entry. Please use the form at https://2021.apricot.net/program/peering-personals/ to submit your Peering or IXP Personal for APRICOT 2021. Thanks! philip -- _______________________________________________ apops mailing list apops at apops.net https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/apops Website: www.apops.net . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfg at tristatelogic.com Thu Jan 21 06:42:11 2021 From: rfg at tristatelogic.com (Ronald F. Guilmette) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 22:42:11 -0800 Subject: [Community-Discuss] Updates on the misappropriation of IPv4 resources In-Reply-To: <01e101d6d47b$7f2586c0$7d709440$@afrinic.net> Message-ID: <2080.1611211331@segfault.tristatelogic.com> In message <01e101d6d47b$7f2586c0$7d709440$@afrinic.net>, "Eddy Kayihura" wrote: >Concerning the case SC/COM/WRT/000295/2020 (Afri Holdings Ltd, Netstyle A. >Ltd & Elad Cohen v/s African Network Information Centre (AfriNIC) LTD), you >may note that the matter is still pending before the Hon. Judge in Chambers >of the Mauritian Supreme Court as we are still at the stage of exchange of >pleadings (i.e. affidavits). Otherwise, AFRINIC stands advised that >proceedings before the Judge in Chambers are very confidential in nature and >access to the pleadings is limited to parties and of course the judge only. I am sorry that I have been unable to respond to this until now, but as many of you may already be aware, we have had many highly distracting issues of our own here in the U.S. in recent days. I am pleased to report however that as of today, democracy in the United States has triumphed, we now have a new President, and hopefully there will in future be a lot let silliness in our politics at the national level, and we may look forward to better and more respectful relations with other countries the world over. Withe respect to the current and ongoing court case against AFRINIC in Mauritius, I must stipulate up frint that I know exactly -zero- about the laws of Mauritius, and thus I am wholly unqualified to render any sort of opinion about that, especially given that neither nor anyone else has even seen the legal complaint yet. That having been said however, I would just like to offer the observation that in U.S. courts, at least, there exists a longstanding notion of "duty of care" where one party may be obliged, legally, to exercise some restrain, or to undertake some actions to protect the interests of another, at least in some circumstances where there is a clear "duty of care" from the first party to the second party. In the context of IP address blocks assigned by any Regional Internet Registry under the terms of a written contract there is quite obviously a duty of care that runs from the RIR to the registrant. In the case of so-called "Legacy" blocks however, where no such written contract exists, it is not at all clear to me that there exists, in any sensible legal system, -any- duty of care, or indeed any duty whatosoever that is owed by the RIR to any party or parties that is alleging some rights to the block(s) in question. For this reason, I personally remain sanguine about the probable outcome of the ongoing litigation against AFRINIC. I don't think that AFRINIC owes anybody anything specific with regards to -any- legacy block. Quite obviously, Eddy has repeatedly asserted that he is not at liberty to says anything at all of consequence regarding this ongoing litigation. I still take issue with that position. I feel it is both wrong and wrong- headed in that it fails to respect the clear rights of the dues-paying members of AFRINIC to at least know what they are all being sued for. But as is clear by now, my opinions on this point carry no weight at all amd I must just learn to live with that. Nontheless, I do think that it is the least that Eddy & the Board should do to at least post some sorts of generalized opinions regarding -their- appraisal of the chances for success in the current litigation, which has now been ongoing for many many months. Surely, they must have at least some general feeling by now for the prospects for success. It would be Good to hear some comment on that from Eddy. Can we all have some reason to be hopeful, in this new year, that justice will be served, and that the carpetbagging marauders from outside the region will be turned away at the gates, and that in the end, the only rewards they will retain for their schemes will be the taste of ashes and some large legal bills for which they alone will be responsible? Regards, rfg From rfg at tristatelogic.com Thu Jan 21 06:50:08 2021 From: rfg at tristatelogic.com (Ronald F. Guilmette) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 22:50:08 -0800 Subject: [Community-Discuss] Updates on the misappropriation of IPv4 resources Message-ID: <2126.1611211808@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Apologizies to all for my prior message. I am cleaning up in inbox and I sent that last message while *believing* that I was responding to a message that Eddy had posted on JANUARY 17th. But I see now that what I was responding to was a message from Eddy that was posted on DECEMBER 17th! So obviously, what I posted with rather untimely. Still, I would not take back a single word of what I said. I and about 80 million other Americans are this day celebrating the transition of power to our new President, and we hope for a brighter future on account of that. Also, it would most certainly be Good if Eddy and/or the Board could give some hint of how they think the lawsuit is going, in general terms. Regards, rfg From eddy at afrinic.net Thu Jan 21 10:19:28 2021 From: eddy at afrinic.net (Eddy Kayihura) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 14:19:28 +0400 Subject: [Community-Discuss] Publication of the report on AFRINIC WHOIS Database Accuracy Message-ID: [French, Arabic and Portuguese versions below] Dear colleagues, As promised, I am pleased to announce the publication of the report on AFRINIC WHOIS Database Accuracy which was originally planned to be released in December 2020. https://afrinic.net/20210121-afrinic-whois-database-accuracy-report The report is the outcome of a thorough audit exercise undertaken by our team for all the IPv4 resources that falls under AFRINIC?s Service region including both legacy and non-legacy space. I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who has worked tirelessly towards the delivery of this report, our team at AFRINIC, the APNIC staff who have been assisting and supporting us all along and our community members who have shared valuable information, feedback and constructive insights to the misappropriation of IPv4 resources case. I hope you will find the information in the report useful and we look forward to receiving your comments and feedback. Regards, Eddy Kayihura ??????????? Chers coll?gues, Comme promis, j'ai le plaisir d'annoncer la publication du rapport sur l'exactitude de la base de donn?es WHOIS d'AFRINIC, qui devait initialement ?tre publi? en d?cembre 2020. https://afrinic.net/20210121-afrinic-whois-database-accuracy-report Le rapport est le r?sultat d'un exercice d'audit approfondi entrepris par notre ?quipe pour toutes les ressources IPv4 qui rel?vent de la r?gion de service de l'AFRINIC, y compris les espaces 'legacy' et non legacy. J'aimerais profiter de cette occasion pour remercier tous ceux qui ont travaill? sans rel?che ? la publication de ce rapport, notre ?quipe ? l'AFRINIC, le personnel de l'APNIC qui nous a aid?s et soutenus tout au long de l'exercice et les membres de notre communaut? qui ont partag? des informations pr?cieuses, des commentaires et des id?es constructives sur le cas du d?tournement des ressources IPv4. J'esp?re que les informations contenues dans le rapport vous seront utiles et nous nous r?jouissons de recevoir vos commentaires et r?actions. Cordialement, Eddy Kayihura ??????????????????????.. ?????? ???????? ??? ???? ? ?????? ?? ???? ?? ??? ????? ??? ????? ?????? AFRINIC WHOIS ???? ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ?? ?????? 2020. https://afrinic.net/20210121-afrinic-whois-database-accuracy-report ??????? ?? ????? ????? ????? ???? ??? ?? ?????? ????? ????? IPv4 ???? ??? ??? ????? ???? AFRINIC ??? ?? ??? ??????? ??????? ???? ???????. ??? ?? ????? ??? ?????? ????? ?? ?? ??? ??? ??? ?? ??? ????? ??? ??????? ? ??????? ?? AFRINIC ? ?????? APNIC ????? ????? ????????? ????????? ???? ????? ?????? ??????? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????? ?????????? ? ??? ????? ??? ?????? ??? ??????? ????? ????? IPv4. ??? ?? ??? ????????? ??????? ?? ??????? ????? ?????? ??? ???? ????????? ??????????. ?? ??????? Eddy Kayihura ??????????????????. Caros colegas, Como prometido, tenho o prazer de anunciar a publica??o do relat?rio sobre AFRINIC WHOIS Database Accuracy, que estava inicialmente previsto para ser lan?ado em Dezembro de 2020. https://afrinic.net/20210121-afrinic-whois-database-accuracy-report O relat?rio ? o resultado de um exaustivo exerc?cio de auditoria empreendido pela nossa equipa para todos os recursos IPv4 que se enquadram na regi?o de Servi?o da AFRINIC, incluindo tanto o espa?o legado como o espa?o n?o legado. Gostaria de aproveitar esta oportunidade para agradecer a todos os que trabalharam incansavelmente para a entrega deste relat?rio, ? nossa equipa na AFRINIC, ao pessoal da APNIC que nos tem ajudado e apoiado desde o in?cio e aos nossos membros da comunidade que partilharam informa??es valiosas, feedback e percep??es construtivas sobre o caso da apropria??o indevida de recursos IPv4. Espero que considerem as informa??es contidas no relat?rio ?teis e aguardamos com expectativa os vossos coment?rios e feedback. Cumprimentos, Eddy Kayihura -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From owen at delong.com Thu Jan 21 20:51:50 2021 From: owen at delong.com (Owen DeLong) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 12:51:50 -0800 Subject: [Community-Discuss] [afnog] Updates on the misappropriation of IPv4 resources In-Reply-To: References: <52687.1608760721@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Message-ID: > There's quite a lot of sordid details that > I know about, and I've only publicly disclosed a subset of those. > > Please do this community a final favor and publish all details rather than just subsets of your research. That?s an unfair ask under the circumstances. There are many reasons not to publicly disclose certain data, including: + Protecting the confidential source of that data + Data which might compromise an ongoing investigation + Data which disclosure would violate an NDA + Data which could cause harm to third parties I?ve known Ron for a long time. He is not known for his desire to hide things, in fact, he is quite the opposite. Any information Ron is holding back is likely for good reason and I trust his judgment on what is appropriate to release. Owen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From comms at afrinic.net Mon Jan 25 11:16:30 2021 From: comms at afrinic.net (AFRINIC Communication) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 15:16:30 +0400 Subject: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database Message-ID: <8E2D46C5-F034-4ACD-9C09-1BD1116E12CF@afrinic.net> [Version en fran?ais au bas] Dear colleagues, We have published a blog on the comprehensive audit of all IPv4 number resources in the AFRINIC WHOIS Database. The blog also highlights what has been done so far at AFRINIC in the wake of the findings of the audit. Read the blog at: http://bit.ly/AFRINICBlog-Database-Accuracy Ashil Oogarah On behalf of the Communications and PR Team ???????????? Chers coll?gues, Nous avons publi? un blog sur l'audit complet de toutes les ressources num?riques IPv4 dans la base de donn?es WHOIS d'AFRINIC. Le blog met ?galement en ?vidence ce qui a ?t? fait jusqu'? pr?sent ? AFRINIC ? la suite des conclusions de l'audit. Lisez le blog ? l'adresse suivante : http://bit.ly/AFRINICBlog-Database-Accuracy Ashil Oogarah Au nom de l'?quipe de Communications et des Relations Publiques From eddy at afrinic.net Wed Jan 27 11:49:40 2021 From: eddy at afrinic.net (Eddy Kayihura) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:49:40 +0400 Subject: [Community-Discuss] Afrinic updates - January 2021 Message-ID: [French, Arabic and Portuguese version below] Dear Colleagues, It is my hope that you have started the year on a good note and are keeping well. It is my pleasure to share with you the first monthly update of this year. AFRINIC Office Opened The AFRINIC Office is now open, this is after several months of closure in adherence to the COVID-19 safety protocols and guidance by the Mauritian Authorities as well as office renovation works. During this time, we could only serve you virtually as has been the global norm lately. With this said, the team is happy to be back and are energised to serve you this year bidding to bring to reality our vision of a secure and robust Internet in Africa. AFRINIC WHOIS Database audit Report As you may be aware, AFRINIC published an audit of all IPv4 number resources, which consisted of verifying the rightful custodianship of those resources, including both legacy and non-legacy resources that fall under AFRINIC?s service region. We have produced a blog that highlights the findings of the report as well as what changes and improvements we have done at AFRINIC in wake of the audit report. The blog is available here: https://www.afrinic.net/20210125-afrinic-whois-accuracy Collaboration between AFRINIC and the African Telecommunication Union (ATU) AFRINIC has signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) with the African Telecommunication Union (ATU) a specialised agency of the African Union in the field of telecommunications.This collaboration will pave the way for both ATU and AFRINIC to work closer together towards a more reliable, accessible, affordable and resilient Internet to support the Digital Transformation on the continent. The Press Release for this event is available here>>http://bit.ly/PressRelease-AFRINIC-ATU-Collaboration I wish you well as we pursue our common goals and aspirations. Thank you. Kind Regards, Eddy Kayihura, Chief Executive Officer, African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC) ???????????????. Chers coll?gues, J'esp?re que vous avez bien commenc? l'ann?e. J'ai le plaisir de partager avec vous la premi?re mise ? jour mensuelle de cette ann?e. Ouverture du bureau d'AFRINIC Le bureau d'AFRINIC est maintenant ouvert, apr?s plusieurs mois de fermeture, conform?ment aux protocoles de s?curit? COVID-19 et aux directives des autorit?s mauriciennes ainsi que des travaux de r?novation du bureau. Pendant cette p?riode, nous n'avons pu vous servir que virtuellement selon la norme globale ces derniers temps. Cela dit, l'?quipe est heureuse d'?tre de retour et elle est d?termin?e ? vous servir cette ann?e en afin de r?aliser notre vision pour un Internet fiable et robuste en Afrique. Rapport d'audit de la base de donn?es WHOIS de l'AFRINIC Comme vous le savez peut-?tre, l'AFRINIC a publi? un audit de toutes les ressources num?riques IPv4, qui consistait ? v?rifier la garde l?gitime de ces ressources, y compris les ressources legacy et non legacy qui rel?vent de la r?gion de service de l'AFRINIC. Nous avons cr?? un blog qui met en lumi?re les conclusions du rapport ainsi que les changements et les am?liorations que nous avons apport?s ? l'AFRINIC suite au rapport de l'audit. Le blog est disponible ici : https://www.afrinic.net/20210125-afrinic-whois-accuracy Collaboration entre l'AFRINIC et l'Union africaine des t?l?communications (UAT) AFRINIC a sign? un protocole d'accord avec l'Union africaine des t?l?communications (UAT), une agence sp?cialis?e de l'Union africaine dans le domaine des t?l?communications. Cette collaboration ouvrira la voie ? une collaboration plus ?troite entre l'UAT et AFRINIC en vue d'un Internet plus fiable, plus accessible, plus abordable et plus r?silient pour soutenir la transformation num?rique sur le continent. Le communiqu? de presse de cet ?v?nement est disponible ici>>http://bit.ly/PressRelease-AFRINIC-ATU-Collaboration Je vous souhaite une bonne continuation alors que nous poursuivons nos aspirations et objectifs communs. Cordialement, Eddy Kayihura, Directeur g?n?ral, African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC) ?????????? ?????? ???????? ??? ?? ???? ?? ???? ????? ???? ??? ???? ??? ?? ????. ??? ??? ????? ????? ?? ??????? ??? ????? ???? ???? ?????. ?? ?????? ???? AFRINIC ???? AFRINIC ????? ???? ? ???? ??? ??? ???? ?? ??????? ???????? ??????????? ??????? ?????? ?? COVID-19 ???????? ????? ???????? ????? ????? ????? ???????. ???? ??? ????? ? ?? ????? ?? ????? ??? ??????? ??? ???? ??????? ???????? ??????. ?? ??? ? ???? ?????? ??????? ???? ?????? ?????? ??? ????? ?? ???????? ?????? ?????? ??????? ??? ???? ?? ???????. ????? ????? ????? ?????? AFRINIC WHOIS ??? ?????? ? ???? AFRINIC ??????? ????? ????? ????? IPv4 ? ????? ????? ?? ?????? ?? ??????? ??????? ??? ??? ??????? ? ??? ?? ??? ??????? ??????? ???? ??????? ???? ??? ??? ????? ???? AFRINIC. ??? ???? ?????? ????? ???? ????? ??? ????? ??????? ???????? ??? ????????? ?????????? ???? ???????? ?? AFRINIC ?? ????? ????? ???????. ??????? ????? ???: https://www.afrinic.net/20210125-afrinic-whois-accuracy ??????? ??? AFRINIC ???????? ???????? ????????? (ATU) ???? AFRINIC ????? ????? ?? ??????? ???????? ????????? (ATU) ? ??? ????? ?????? ????? ??????? ???????? ?? ???? ????????? ??????? ?????????? ? ???? ??????? ????? ?????? ??? ?? ATU ? AFRINIC ????? ???? ???? ???? ??? ????? ?????? ?? ?????????. ???????? ? ???? ???? ?????? ???? ? ??????? ?????? ? ?????? ???? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????. ?????? ?????? ???? ????? ???? ??? >>http://bit.ly/PressRelease-AFRINIC-ATU-Collaboration ????? ??? ?? ??? ???? ???? ?????? ??????? ????????? ????????. ???? ??. ???? ???????? ???? ???????? ?????? ????????? ?????? ???????? ???????? ?????? (AFRINIC) ??????????... Caros Colegas, Espero que tenham come?ado o ano com uma boa nota e que se mantenham bem. Tenho o prazer de partilhar convosco a primeira actualiza??o mensal deste ano. Abertura do Escrit?rio AFRINIC O escrit?rio da AFRINIC est? agora aberto, isto ap?s v?rios meses de encerramento em conformidade com os protocolos de seguran?a da COVID-19 e a orienta??o das autoridades mauricianas bem como trabalhos de renova??o de escrit?rios. Durante este tempo, s? pudemos servi-lo virtualmente como tem sido a norma global ultimamente. Dito isto, a equipa est? contente por estar de volta e est? en?rgica para o servir este ano, propondo-se trazer ? realidade a nossa vis?o de uma Internet segura e robusta em ?frica. Relat?rio de auditoria da base de dados AFRINIC WHOIS Como deve saber, a AFRINIC publicou uma auditoria de todos os recursos de n?meros IPv4, que consistiu em verificar a cust?dia leg?tima desses recursos, incluindo os recursos legados e n?o legados que se enquadram na regi?o de servi?o da AFRINIC. Produzimos um blogue que destaca as conclus?es do relat?rio, bem como as mudan?as e melhorias que fizemos na AFRINIC na sequ?ncia do relat?rio de auditoria. O blogue est? dispon?vel aqui:https://www.afrinic.net/20210125-afrinic-whois-accuracy Colabora??o entre a AFRINIC e a Uni?o Africana de Telecomunica??es (ATU) A AFRINIC assinou um memorando de entendimento (MoU) com a Uni?o Africana de Telecomunica??es (ATU), uma ag?ncia especializada da Uni?o Africana no dom?nio das telecomunica??es. Esta colabora??o abrir? o caminho para que tanto a ATU como a AFRINIC trabalhem em conjunto no sentido de uma Internet mais fi?vel, acess?vel, acess?vel e resiliente para apoiar a Transforma??o Digital no continente. O comunicado de imprensa para este evento est? dispon?vel aqui>>http://bit.ly/PressRelease-AFRINIC-ATU-Collaboration Desejo-vos as maiores felicidades na prossecu??o dos nossos objectivos e aspira??es comuns. Obrigado. Cordiais cumprimentos, Eddy Kayihura, Chefe do Executivo, Centro de Informa??o da Rede Africana (AFRINIC) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From owen at delong.com Sun Jan 31 23:06:53 2021 From: owen at delong.com (Owen DeLong) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2021 15:06:53 -0800 Subject: [Community-Discuss] [afnog] Updates on the misappropriation of IPv4 resources In-Reply-To: References: <52687.1608760721@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Message-ID: <3C3DABEA-B235-4233-ACB1-B9FE9E60E3B6@delong.com> > On Jan 30, 2021, at 5:52 PM, Noah wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 11:54 PM Owen DeLong > wrote: >> There's quite a lot of sordid details that >> I know about, and I've only publicly disclosed a subset of those. >> >> Please do this community a final favor and publish all details rather than just subsets of your research. > > That?s an unfair ask under the circumstances. > > Come'on Dude... > > There are many reasons not to publicly disclose certain data, including: > + Protecting the confidential source of that data > + Data which might compromise an ongoing investigation > + Data which disclosure would violate an NDA > + Data which could cause harm to third parties > > FWIW, Ron can share that information with AFRINIC directly..... > > Noah And he may well have done so. You asked for public disclosure. Re-read your post above if you think I?m wrong about that? ?final favor and publish all details?? Publish is a public disclosure? They even come from the same root word. Disclosure to AfriNIC privately is an option and RFG has not stated to what extent he has or hasn?t done so. He only spoke about the extent to which he has made public disclosures. Owen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: