[Community-Discuss] [apnic-talk]Re: [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd

[Siyuan Miao]

Dear LARUS Ambassador,

I don't want to be rude but could you not CC APNIC and RIPE mailing lists
when calling out violations of AFRINIC CC?

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Regards,
Siyuan


On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 9:50 PM Cheken Chetty <rameez.chetty at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Good day all, chairs,
> I would like to call out a violation of the Code of Conduct by Ronald. His
> statements are clearly against section B, numbers 2, 3 and 4 within the
> AFRINIC code of conduct. His actions and statements are defamatory and
> quite offensive.
> Regards
>
> On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 6:15 AM Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg at tristatelogic.com>
> wrote:
>
>> In message <CANanHiw4sexT3NaogQahUedT4qg8x8N_i=
>> bLYrVW01C2MKMSsw at mail.gmail.com>
>> Ibeanusi Elvis <ibeanusielvis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >This "sockpuppet" ideology and terminology that has become an excessively
>> >overused irrelevant term in this mailing list. What is wrong with
>> sharing a
>> >link of interest or a link that a member consider relevant to
>> him/herself.
>> >Freedom of expression is always promoted in this community as long as it
>> >does not go out of line. Members of this community including the AFRINIC
>> >organization itself always share updates and links; never have it been
>> >considered an act of being a "Sockpuppet". Lets stop throwing words
>> around
>> >in this community mailing list and create unwanted confusion.
>>
>> Sockpuppetry is not an "ideology".  It is a well-established fact of life
>> on the modern Internet, just as "astroturfing" is in real life.  If you
>> don't know that then it is because either you are ignorant or else it is
>> because you are pretending to be ignorant.
>>
>> The poster in question is using and was using a fradulent name together
>> with
>> an essentially anonymous gmail account.  The name given in the From:
>> header
>> is bogus and is a reference to a non-existant fictitious person, as anyone
>> who simply takes a moment to google the name can readily see.
>>
>> This is fundamentally different from Real People posting to these lists.
>> Real People have histories, known connections, and readily identifiable
>> employers.  Sock puppets have none of these things.
>>
>> If you don't like people talking about sock puppets on these mailing lists
>> then perhaps you should, in the first instance, try to get the sock
>> puppets to stop posting garbage and unenlightening recycled company PR
>> blurbs to these mailing lists.
>>
>> Most of us have real work to do, and if we really want to be bombarded by
>> commercial advertisments being written and spread around by specific
>> individual companies, at their request or prompting, and for their
>> benefit,
>> then there are other places where we can seek out that kind of stuff.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> rfg
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