[Community-Discuss] USE of (ARIN, RIPE, APNIC) ADDRESS SPACE IN AFRICA

Noah noah at neo.co.tz
Mon Aug 23 18:29:52 UTC 2021


On Mon, 23 Aug 2021, 21:13 Owen DeLong, <owen at delong.com> wrote:


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> On Aug 22, 2021, at 10:59 , Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:

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> On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, 20:28 Owen DeLong, <owen at delong.com> wrote:

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>> Akamai has a lot of presence in Africa.

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>> They do not have a membership in AFRINIC.

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> That is fine...

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>> Hurricane Electric has significant presence in AFRICA and Latin America

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> There are more for instance Apple, Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Cloudflare,

> Netflix, LimeLight and other similar Internet services providers.

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> Guess what, back at home in the ARIN service region, the above hyper

> scalers and CDN have extensive Internet Infrastructure which is serving

> Americans and Europeans before they venture and expand out to scale their

> local networks into global infrastructure and tap into more markets in

> Africa and Latin America etc.

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>> To the best of my knowledge, they do not have any resources from LACNIC

>> or AFRINIC.

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> That is perfectly fine. My employer has an extensive network in Europe to

> connect us back to Africa where we extensively operate and yet we are not

> RIPE resource members.

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> Noah

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> OK, so you agree with me. That’s great.

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Ofcourse, but I expected you to mention your company Cloud Innovation as
well.

Strangely though, Cloud Innovation did not cross your mind.



> Let’s move on.

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Not so fast. I am trying to make sense of the 1.8 billion claim or the 50
million, if indeed that is CIL valuation in comparison to major players in
this continent.

I am struggling to place your company Cloud Innovation in the group of real
cloud service providers who span multiple RIR like Google, Amazon,
Microsoft or even the likes of Digital Ocean, Linode etc.

Would you be in a position to elaborate more about your company Cloud
Innovation since it also lacks a known ASN like the global ISPs and CSPs I
mentioned earlier?

Cheers,
Noah
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