[Community-Discuss] Joint statement on the current AFRINIC situation from the African Regional RENs (AFRINIC Communication)

[Daniel Yakmut]

Dear All,

How and why did we allow ourselves to begin to behave like our typical 
African Politicians. AfriNIC have been reduced to an organization that 
is now requiring crowd to sing its praise. This is an indication that 
AfriNIC has derailed and is failing.

Pls we should be looking at how do we recover from this failings and 
make AfriNIC work again. I don't subscribe to this so call solidarity 
messages. If things have been done right, we shouldn't be doing this.

Simply,

Daniel

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> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 18:06:42 +0400

> From: AFRINIC Communication <comms at afrinic.net>

> To: Paul Wollner <paul.wollner at africaoncloud.net>

> Cc: Community Discuss <community-discuss at afrinic.net>, "habib.youssef"

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> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Joint statement on

> 	the current AFRINIC situation from the African Regional RENs

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> Mr Wollner,

>

> The Code of Conduct was not applied as Mr. Habib publicly apologised to the mailing list.

>

> Regards,

>

> AFRINIC Communications

>

>> On 11 Aug 2021, at 11:15, Paul Wollner <paul.wollner at africaoncloud.net> wrote:

>>

>> I am curious as to why AFRINIC is silent when comes to enforcing CoC on its vice chairman of the board? Why has the board member not resigned after such an improper public comment?

>>

>> Regards

>> Paul

>>

>>

>> ---- On Tue, 03 Aug 2021 11:41:29 +0200 habib.youssef via Members-Discuss <members-discuss at afrinic.net> wrote ----

>>

>> Thanks Boubakar, Yousef and Matthews for your support.

>> What Lu Heng and company have started to do since several years to go is criminal by all standards.

>> I hope Afrinic will get out stronger from crisis.

>> --Habib.

>>

>>

>>

>> Sent from my Galaxy

>>

>>

>> -------- Original message --------

>> From: Boubakar Barry <Boubakar.Barry at wacren.net <mailto:Boubakar.Barry at wacren.net>>

>> Date: 03/08/2021 08:49 (GMT+01:00)

>> To: Members Discuss <members-discuss at afrinic.net <mailto:members-discuss at afrinic.net>>

>> Subject: [members-discuss] Joint statement on the current AFRINIC situation from the African Regional RENs

>>

>> Dear All,

>>

>> On behalf of the three African regional RENs, please find attached our joint statement on the current situation at AFRINIC.

>>

>> It says:

>> ---

>> ASREN, UbuntuNet Alliance and WACREN are the regional research and education networks interconnecting national research and education networks (NRENs) across the continent (Northern Africa, Eastern and Southern Africa, West and Central Africa).

>> African RENs provide connectivity and other services to millions of end users in the education and research community (students, faculty, researchers, administrators, etc.), and INRs are critical for the delivery of these services.

>> The REN community is following with interest but also with concern the heated debate on the current lawsuit against AFRINIC that led to the freezing of its bank accounts, thus jeopardizing its operations.

>> Many years ago, members of the REN community expressed concerns about a risk for AFRINIC, when a resource member publicly said that AFRINIC will face bankruptcy if it dares consider reclaiming resources that many members thought were assigned wrongly, or at least were not used as initially indicated. It was, at that time, recommended to address this issue seriously.

>> And here we are.

>> Anyway:  the current situation is very serious and our community and the friends of the African Internet community should stand together and fight against those who want to destroy and bury AFRINIC.

>> Yes, there are things to improve at AFRINIC. But in this critical situation, we urge all to stand by and support the Board and Management of our organization.

>> We say no to any attempt to move the management of Internet number resources attributed to Africa to any other organization.

>> Therefore, we, as representatives of the African REN community, express our full support to AFRINIC Board and Management and invite all Africans and friends of Africa to do the same.

>>   

>> Signed:

>> For ASREN (www.asrenorg.net <http://www.asrenorg.net/>): Dr. Yousef Torman, Co-MD

>>

>> For Ubuntunet Alliance (www.ubuntunet.net <http://www.ubuntunet.net/>): Dr. Matthews Mtumbuka, CEO

>>

>> For WACREN (www.wacren.net <http://www.wacren.net/>): Dr. Boubakar Barry, CEO

>>

>> ________________________________________________________________

>>

>> Best wishes,

>>

>> Boubakar Barry

>> -- 

>> CEO/Directeur G?n?ral, WACREN

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> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 17:52:52 +0300

> From: Noah <noah at neo.co.tz>

> To: Fiona Asonga <tespok at tespok.co.ke>

> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>,

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> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] TESPOK_KENYA STATEMENT ON AFRINIC

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> Hi Fiona,

>

> Thank you so much for the statement from the Technology Service Providers

> of Kenya (*TESPOK*) on AFRINIC.

>

> Cheers,

> *./noah*

> neo - network engineering and operations

>

>

> On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 3:33 PM Fiona Asonga <tespok at tespok.co.ke> wrote:

>

>> Dear All

>>

>> TESPOK- Technology Service Providers Of Kenya has issued the following

>> statement regarding the current situation at AFRINIC.

>>

>> <https://www.tespok.co.ke/?p=14010>It reads:

>>

>>

>> 10th August 2021

>>

>>

>>

>> *STATEMENT OF TECHNOLOGY SERVICE PROVIDERS OF KENYA (TESPOK) ON AFRINIC*

>>

>>

>>

>> Technology Service Providers of Kenya (TESPOK) is a professional non-

>> profit organization representing interests of Technology Service Providers

>> in Kenya and it runs the Kenya Internet Exchange Point.

>>

>>

>>

>> TESPOK and its 80+ members are dependent on the internet resources

>> acquired as members of AFRINIC, thus AFRINIC plays a crucial role as the

>> sole delegated administrator of critical Internet resources for the African

>> region as Kenya internet users rely on AFRINIC to provide and efficiently

>> distribute internet number resources, support internet technology usage to

>> be able to connect to the Internet and to conduct business online.

>>

>>

>>

>> Afrinic?s Chief Executive Officer?s communication to members regarding the

>> dispute between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation Limited has left TESPOK and

>> its membership concerned. The dispute has led to AFRINICS accounts being

>> frozen thus hindering AFRINIC?s ability to operate and perform its duties.

>>

>>

>>

>> TESPOK recognizes that AFRINIC plays an important role in running critical

>> services for the global internet thus we at TESPOK would like to support

>> AFRINIC meet its operational obligations until the dispute is resolved.

>>

>>

>>

>> We thank the AFRINIC CEO, Eddy Kayihura for the constant updates and

>> reassurance he has provided members and we would like to humbly appeal to

>> AFRINIC?s Board of Directors and Senior Management to focus on its core

>> mandate and ensure the stability of Africa?s internet ecosystem.

>>

>>

>>

>> TESPOK hopes that AFRINIC will do everything within its ability to ensure

>> business continuity and that a swift amicable solution to the dispute shall

>> be reached.

>>

>>

>>

>> *ENDS...*

>>

>> *About TESPOK *

>>

>> *Telecommunications Service Providers Association of Kenya (TESPOK) is a

>> professional, non-profit organization representing the interests of

>> telecommunication service providers in Kenya.  Established in 1999, the

>> strength of the Association rests on its ability to be truly representative

>> of the Kenyan industry as a whole. The association has brought the issues

>> affecting its members into the limelight creating awareness among policy

>> makers and the general public as well as producing several concrete

>> outcomes. **More information is available

>> at: https://www.tespok.co.ke/?p=14010 <https://www.tespok.co.ke/?p=14010> *

>>

>>

>>

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> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 22:55:50 +0100

> From: Sylvain Baya <abscoco at gmail.com>

> To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>

> Subject: [Community-Discuss]  TESPOK_KENYA STATEMENT ON AFRINIC

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> Dear AfriNIC's Community,

>

> Le mercredi 11 ao?t 2021, Fiona Asonga <tespok at tespok.co.ke> a ?crit :

>

>> Dear All

>>

>>

> Hi Fiona,

>

> ...i thank you and all the valuable resource members from TESPOK, for this

> great support.

>

>

> TESPOK- Technology Service Providers Of Kenya has issued the following

>> statement regarding the current situation at AFRINIC.

>>

>>

> That's a really appreciated kind of response, i

> personally encourage other resource members

> to endorse it...anyone should understand the risk attached to the situation

> in which only few (one?) resource member(s?) have jeopardized AfriNIC,

> including all those who respect the RSA they have

> signed prior to receiving some INRs; to use within

> the AfriNIC service region...in compliance with the

> CPM.

>

> ...also, given the brutality, of that adverse action,

> i ask myself if the appropriate response is not to

> launch a joint similar action against that adversary

>   LIR? it seems to be easy to calculate the actual

> value of the INRs holding by all the resource

> members whose businesses could be potentially

> affected by the freeze of AfriNIC's bank accounts.

>

> ...maybe TESPOK should try to coordinate with

> the other potentially affected resource members

> (~1900)? also note that: that "INRs War" has been

> started and the other camp is actively recruiting,

> publicly through their QG web site at NRA...maybe

> gathering the resource members might be a good

> start :-/

>

> The risk is shared with the other RIRs which form

> a unique Internet Numbers Registry System (INRS)

> (RFC7020); now under the same attack...

>

> Thanks once more.

>

> Shalom,

> --sb.

>

>

>

>> <https://www.tespok.co.ke/?p=14010>It reads:

>>

>>

>> 10th August 2021

>>

>>

>>

>> *STATEMENT OF TECHNOLOGY SERVICE PROVIDERS OF KENYA (TESPOK) ON AFRINIC*

>>

>>

>>

>> Technology Service Providers of Kenya (TESPOK) is a professional non-

>> profit organization representing interests of Technology Service Providers

>> in Kenya and it runs the Kenya Internet Exchange Point.

>>

>>

>>

>> TESPOK and its 80+ members are dependent on the internet resources

>> acquired as members of AFRINIC, thus AFRINIC plays a crucial role as the

>> sole delegated administrator of critical Internet resources for the African

>> region as Kenya internet users rely on AFRINIC to provide and efficiently

>> distribute internet number resources, support internet technology usage to

>> be able to connect to the Internet and to conduct business online.

>>

>>

>>

>> Afrinic?s Chief Executive Officer?s communication to members regarding the

>> dispute between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation Limited has left TESPOK and

>> its membership concerned. The dispute has led to AFRINICS accounts being

>> frozen thus hindering AFRINIC?s ability to operate and perform its duties.

>>

>>

>>

>> TESPOK recognizes that AFRINIC plays an important role in running critical

>> services for the global internet thus we at TESPOK would like to support

>> AFRINIC meet its operational obligations until the dispute is resolved.

>>

>>

>>

>> We thank the AFRINIC CEO, Eddy Kayihura for the constant updates and

>> reassurance he has provided members and we would like to humbly appeal to

>> AFRINIC?s Board of Directors and Senior Management to focus on its core

>> mandate and ensure the stability of Africa?s internet ecosystem.

>>

>>

>>

>> TESPOK hopes that AFRINIC will do everything within its ability to ensure

>> business continuity and that a swift amicable solution to the dispute shall

>> be reached.

>>

>>

>>

>> *ENDS...*

>>

>> *About TESPOK *

>>

>> *Telecommunications Service Providers Association of Kenya (TESPOK) is a

>> professional, non-profit organization representing the interests of

>> telecommunication service providers in Kenya.  Established in 1999, the

>> strength of the Association rests on its ability to be truly representative

>> of the Kenyan industry as a whole. The association has brought the issues

>> affecting its members into the limelight creating awareness among policy

>> makers and the general public as well as producing several concrete

>> outcomes. **More information is available

>> at: https://www.tespok.co.ke/?p=14010 <https://www.tespok.co.ke/?p=14010> *

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>