[Community-Discuss] Gratitude

Fri May 31 11:32:33 UTC 2019

  *   The members in question that released information did it in their capacity as board members and would have received that information under that capacity.

This is not true – read the court papers – each member was a respondent to the court filing in their personal capacities – they were directly served the papers in their own names – the very first thing in that filing is SM vs <long list of names>

  *   Lets give the people we elected the respect they deserve, advise them when they need the guidance and allow them to do the job.

We are doing this – the only thing we differ on is what is deserved in light of what is in those documents.

Andrew

From: John Walu <walu.john at gmail.com<mailto:walu.john at gmail.com>>
Date: Friday, May 31, 2019 at 11:08 AM
To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com<mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>>
Cc: "community-discuss at afrinic.net<mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>" <community-discuss at afrinic.net<mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>>
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Gratitude

@Andrew

I thot AfriNIC has a well-established mechanism for supporting or not supporting the current chair. I am sure you recall this used to happen every year after new members join the board and a vote is called to either extend or rotate the chairman position.

Am not sure if there has been a change this process and now the voting of the Chair by board members happens on email ;-)

That said,

I had not bothered to read the board minutes under discussion but after reading them, I am a bit surprised that 4years later, AfriNIC board is still obsessed with 'information control' strategies when they should be concerned with 'information sharing' strategies.

Strictly speaking, Afrinic, as a community network has really nothing worth hiding (other than as per Data Protection Act/Regulations). Furthermore trying to hide or suppress what is already a public document, does not send a good signal to the community.

Dr. Bope, our Chairman, I am sure you can actually move beyond this and focus the board in more progressive endeavors.

best regards and all the best.

walu.

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 10:22 AM Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com<mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>> wrote:
Can we  conclude from the total lack of response to this email that in fact – there is no one willing to step up and say they support the current chair?  Either member or board member?

Andrew

From: Frank Habicht <geier at geier.ne.tz<mailto:geier at geier.ne.tz>>
Sent: Tuesday, 28 May 2019 16:36
To: community-discuss at afrinic.net<mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Gratitude

Hi,

reading
https://www.afrinic.net/ast/pdf/2018-minutes/20181231-minutes.pdf<https://www.afrinic.net/ast/pdf/2018-minutes/20181231-minutes.pdf>

especially:

SO stated that he had requested via email for the Board to announce the
status of the AGMM quorum court case. He stated that the Chair had
refused to do so, and the Chair had alleged that SO was looking for
votes. SO had requested the Chair to withdraw the statement. The Chair
stated that the Board had discussed the matter, and would communicate to
the community at an appropriate time; based on that the Chair did not
see a need to withdraw. SO again requested the Chair to withdraw the
allegation that SO was looking for votes, and the Chair again refused to
withdraw.
</quote>

I conclude that the Chair actively tried to suppress information/updates
from AfriNIC membership. He apparently had no good reason and was using
the allegation of another board member "looking for votes" as only argument.

Which member of AfriNIC wants to have such a chair at the AfriNIC board?
Please identify yourselves positively.

PS: I would also wish to know which other board members supported this
decision by the chair.

Thanks,
Frank

On 28/05/2019 16:18, Mark Elkins wrote:
> Thinking about the CEO, reading the minutes (
> https://www.afrinic.net/ast/pdf/2019-minutes/20190305-minutes.pdf<https://www.afrinic.net/ast/pdf/2019-minutes/20190305-minutes.pdf> ) - I
> think the best way out for the AfriNIC community is if the whole board
> resigns - just leave the CEO. Andrew has got it right.
>
> On 2019/05/28 14:36, Andrew Alston wrote:
>>
>> Benjamin,
>>
>>
>>
>> Let’s see – you have a public document – a document that is clearly
>> and totally in the public domain.  You have an individual who was a
>> named party in that document – who chose to share that document.  You
>> have an active attempt by the board to sanction that individual for
>> engaging with the community who he is meant to serve.  You have a
>> statement by the chair of the board that the CEO does not serve the
>> community but instead serves the board.
>>
>>
>>
>> Effectively – you have a board attempting to censor the CEO from
>> engaging with this community – in a bottom up organization that by
>> legal representation during the IANA transition committed to the
>> concepts of self determination of members and transparency and bottom
>> up approach.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. That constitutes micro-management
>> 2. In constitutes a total and utter failure of the board to adhere to
>> the principles sworn to in the foundation of the organization in
>> the original ICP2
>> 3. It shows a total disregard for the obligations set out in section
>> 3 of the bylaws to keep members informed of all things pertinent
>> to the company
>>
>>
>>
>> What I see here – is nothing short of disgraceful – and I find it
>> absolutely shocking that any board member who has a shred of ethics –
>> would not have resigned in light of what is in those documents.  It is
>> a slap in the face of this community – and the entire global RIR
>> system – and I am disgusted and appalled.  I would say to Serge as a
>> starting point – if you have no shame – resign – now.  I would say to
>> the chair for your abject failure – resign – now.  I would say to
>> every member who consented to the final sections of that document –
>> resign – now.
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:*Benjamin Ledoh <benjamin.ledoh at gmail.com<mailto:benjamin.ledoh at gmail.com>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 28 May 2019 15:01
>> *To:* Sander Steffann <sander at steffann.nl<mailto:sander at steffann.nl>>
>> *Cc:* General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net<mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Gratitude
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Sander,
>>
>> In your email to the community, you wrote
>>
>> > I am surprised at the level of micro-management that CEO Alan
>> Barrett has to deal with.
>>
>> I have read the minutes and I could not see any trace that is related
>> to “micro-management”. Rather the discussion revolved around the
>> procedure to publish the judgement, who should publish the judgement,
>> and the issue of NDA.
>>
>> Could you please show me in the minutes the part that is dealing with
>> the micro-management?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>> Benjiloh
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 12:50 PM Sander Steffann <sander at steffann.nl
<mailto:sander at steffann.nl%0b>>> <mailto:sander at steffann.nl>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I was just reading the board minutes at
>> https://www.afrinic.net/ast/pdf/2019-minutes/20190305-minutes.pdf<https://www.afrinic.net/ast/pdf/2019-minutes/20190305-minutes.pdf>
>> and I am surprised at the level of micro-management that CEO Alan
>> Barrett has to deal with. In those minutes both Alan and Seun
>> Ojedeji seem to be reprimanded for being open and transparent to
>> this community. The summary of those minutes show how the board
>> has made it explicitly clear that the CEO is to have no
>> responsibility anymore towards this community.
>>
>> Therefore I would like to explicitly and publicly express my
>> gratitude to both Alan and Seun for their efforts to keep this
>> community involved in Afrinic matters in an open and transparent
>> way. I feel this is a strong requirement for keeping Afrinic
>> respected and supported by both its members and its community.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Sander
>>
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