[Community-Discuss] [rpd] Intelligence for AIS-19 Kampala No 1

Andrew Alston Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com
Wed Jun 19 13:40:55 UTC 2019

500 members? Really? Let’s see the vote tallies

Liquid Telecommunications - Group Head Of IP Strategy
From: Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 4:37:00 PM
To: Ali Hussein; General Discussions of AFRINIC
Cc: aleruchichuku at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Intelligence for AIS-19 Kampala No 1


When you say the “community has lost faith” do you speak for the billion African  users, the 1700 members,  the over 500 currently attending the conference ???

I find it a very general statement and abit of clarification might help


From: Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>
Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 at 12:49 PM
To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>
Cc: "aleruchichuku at yahoo.com" <aleruchichuku at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Intelligence for AIS-19 Kampala No 1

This is a symptom of the bigger problem that afflicts Afrinic. My thoughts:-

1. Seems to me (perception really that may not be reality) that Afrinic is on auto-pilot and the software operating it is corrupted.
2. The board is missing in action.
3. The community has basically lost faith in the institution.
4. There have been accusations for some time about some 'hijacking' that is in the offing. Unsubstantiated of course but there none-the-less.

This situation continues to deteriorate. As a critical resource for the continent, what can we do to salvage the situation?  Should we continue to accuse each other or jointly find a solution?

Will Afrinic collapse on our watch?

Ali Hussein


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On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 12:19 PM Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com<mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>> wrote:
I have another question actually.

Can anyone confirm that this individual actually physically exists and is not the twisted alter ego of some other person who does not have the guts to actually stand up and show themselves?

In the original email – they claim to have just arrived in Kampala – yet – speaking to people on the ground – I’ve yet to find a single person who has met this individual – and he has yet to have the courage to show himself at the microphone from what I can see – hence – I find myself wondering if this person really does exist, and if so, why they can be so cowardly as to make such spurious accusations without being willing to show face.


From: aleruchi chuku via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net<mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>>
Sent: Wednesday, 19 June 2019 10:51
To: benjamin.ledoh at gmail.com<mailto:benjamin.ledoh at gmail.com>
Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net<mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>>; rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy <rpd at afrinic.net<mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>>
Subject: Re: [rpd] Intelligence for AIS-19 Kampala No 1

I will love to see you stand tall at the open Mic and say all you have said on the mailing list today.
Remember that true courage is not hidden.

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On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 at 8:41 am, Benjamin Ledoh
<benjamin.ledoh at gmail.com<mailto:benjamin.ledoh at gmail.com>> wrote:

> How much were you paid to do this?

The pay I get is the pride that will help me stand tall in this community.


On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 5:11 AM aleruchi chuku <aleruchichuku at yahoo.com<mailto:aleruchichuku at yahoo.com>> wrote:
Dearest Benjamin

On the morning of an election day. All to cause bad feeling within the community.
How much were you paid to do this?
I hope its worth it.

No true Nigerian will do what you just did.


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On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 at 1:44 am, Benjamin Ledoh
<benjamin.ledoh at gmail.com<mailto:benjamin.ledoh at gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear Community,

I have arrived in Kampala this yesterday and the intelligence I have gathered since then is so alarming that I have decided to send this email to call on my fellow Nigerians (not all) and brother Ugandans  (not all) conscience to put Africa first. To put the interest of this community first so that we keep our Internet Resources for the development of Africa and for the future generation.

>From the intelligence I have gathered, two groups are working tirelessly to hijack AFRINIC resources. The obvious consequences are the close down of AFRINIC and the appropriation of the Internet Resources of our region. If these happen, it implies that whenever an organization in Africa needs IPv4, IPv6 or ASN, it has to get it in the black markets where those resources would be very expensive perhaps not affordable too or to go to RIPE or ARIN. The two groups are, on one side, white South African led by Mr. Andrew Alston of Liquid Telecom with their allies Mark Elkins and Owen Delong, and on the other side, Lu with his Foundation from China.


The British/South Africa Mark Elkins, the candidate of election, wants to become the co-chair of PDWG. His mission as co-chair is to push for the policy “IPv4 Inter-RIR Resource Transfers (Comprehensive Scope)” proposed by Spanish or Latino Jordi Palet Martinez. The issue with this policy is clear. There is no more IPv4 in the other registry, only AFRINIC has IPv4 in its pool. The policy of Jordy has the hidden agenda is to enable the South African (not all of them) mafia to ransack the AFRINIC. It is not a secret that Mark Elkins was one of those who oppose the creation of AFRINIC. No wonder why his acolyte Owen Delong always defends him even if his is blatantly wrong. What is interesting yesterday was Owen with the help of some Ugandans he recruited some boys and girls to come and vote for Mark Elkins and to support of oppose policies. They were brought by Owen himself who was instructing the AFRINIC registration desk in Sheraton Hotel to register them. When they were asked about what they are coming to do, they said they are coming to vote for IPv4. I personally witnessed this.

For my own brothers Nigerians, three of them were sponsored by Lu Heng and his foundation for the post of the co-chair of PDWG. Moreover, the Chinese Lu Heng and his foundation have brought 30 participants or so through the coordination of Daniel Yakmut. Larus Cloud Service, the mother organization of Larus Foundation, has been allocated IPv4 address from AFRINIC. The fact is, Lurus Cloud is not using those IPv4 addresses located to him for the purpose of which the got them. Moreover, the reasons provided when he applied for those resources were lies. The instruction given to those sponsored are to
1 - to support the “IPv4 Inter-RIR Resource Transfers (Comprehensive Scope)” by Jordi Palet Martinez because they want to legalize their wrongdoing with the resources taken from AFRINIC.
2 - to oppose the “Internet Number Resources review by AFRINIC” by Arnaud Amelina and CO because this policy will expose them.
3 - to vote for Mark Elkins. The other three Nigerians have been used to split vote of the other candidate.


As for the Moses Serugo, his case is pitiful and detrimental to this community. As a novice in this community he is sponsored by Lu Heng and foundation. According to my intelligence, he commented only once on PDP mailing list and attended only once the face to face meeting. He confessed that he does not what he is going for as co-chair of PDWG but what matters for him is the possibility to travel outside of Uganda. Regardless of the call to dissuade him to step down so that he can be groomed maybe for the next election and that the issues at hand are beyond his capability to deal with, he declined knowing that he has the upper hand over the other candidate because he is recruiting University of Makerere student to vote for him.  I don’t blame him because according my intelligence, the rules governing the selection of the co-chair has been diluted for novice like him to stand to election. BUT HE SHOULD REMEMBER THAT THIS COMMUNITY DOES NOT FORGIVE AND DOES NOT FORGET.

Dear community,  I have just received some fresh intelligence, I am going to authenticate them before I share them with you.


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