[Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Faulty result for Western Africa in AfriNIC AGMM Elections

Andrew Alston Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com
Fri May 18 09:53:43 UTC 2018

Actually Badru - it's not.

171 trips taken to the end of Q3 -

62 Staff trips - excluding the 24 staff flown to AIS - totalling 86 trips.

Average cost of a trip by the financials in Q3 - $2049.50 per trip - or $176,247 in staff trips excluding board alone.  In total we had spent $350,504 on travel by the end of Q3 - considering AFRINIC's current member base that equates to (roughly):

$117.50 per Member or to put that another way:

8.3% of an extra small LIR's annual fees
5.3% of a very small LIR's annual fees
1.8% of a small members fees

And so it goes on - but those three categories make up the vast majority of AFRINIC members in terms of numbers.

By the time the year came to a close - those percentages had changed - with the average rough travel cost totalling roughly $350 per member, which again, using the small members where the base actually sits equates to:

25% of an extra small members fees
16% of a very small members fees
5.5% of a small members fees

And in total - the travel expenses of AFRINIC racked up 10.7% of the total expenses - and anyone who knows anything about business should know - percentages like this - are not insignificant numbers.


From: Badru Ntege [mailto:badru.ntege at nftconsult.com]
Sent: 18 May 2018 12:41
To: Ben Roberts <Ben.Roberts at liquidtelecom.com>
Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>; AfriNIC Discuss <members-discuss at afrinic.net>
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Faulty result for Western Africa in AfriNIC AGMM Elections

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On 18 May 2018, at 12:10, Ben Roberts <Ben.Roberts at liquidtelecom.com<mailto:Ben.Roberts at liquidtelecom.com>> wrote:

Yes one of the ways that Afrinic wastes lots of money flying people around. This contributes to why our fees are so high compared to other RIRs we are in.
Sorry to get personal but for someone of your experience and looking at the financials over the last few years taunting the above line is pure misinformation.

Secondly a company of your size what you pay AFRINIC is probably a fraction of someone's salary.

Fees are based on your consumption if your business is growing and you need more resources you not only make a justification to AFRINIC but also to the Business.

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On 18 May 2018, at 09:41, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz<mailto:noah at neo.co.tz>> wrote:

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 5:38 PM, Ben Roberts <Ben.Roberts at liquidtelecom.com<mailto:Ben.Roberts at liquidtelecom.com>> wrote:
The election was run and winner declared. Majority of votes cast to have none of the candidates join the board.

So its pointless to have a nomcom in other-words and therefore AfriNIC will be wasting members money to conduct elections which involves facilitating members of nomcom to fly to meetings to conduct elections where no candidate is elected.

Come on folks...

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