[Community-Discuss] Bad news

Wed May 9 12:09:07 UTC 2018

Andrew, 
Just reply because you ask, no one is pure we all have diversity and we happy to have that, you need to more self-reconciliation. 
Even my self im happy to have half African half Arab. 
again, take it easy. 

From: "Andrew Alston" <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com> 
To: "Sami Salih" <sami at tpra.gov.sd> 
Cc: "Alan Barrett" <alan.barrett at afrinic.net>, "Marcus K. G. Adomey" <madomey at hotmail.com>, "community-discuss" <community-discuss at afrinic.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 3:03:42 PM 
Subject: RE: [Community-Discuss] Bad news 

Sami, 

Are you now implying that I am some how less African than you? Despite being raised in Africa, lived in Africa all my life and under African skies will I die? 

Your message implies that I am somehow not “A real African” – please can you clarify this? 

Andrew 

From: Sami Salih [mailto:sami at tpra.gov.sd] 
Sent: 09 May 2018 14:56 
To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com> 
Cc: Alan Barrett <alan.barrett at afrinic.net>; Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey at hotmail.com>; community-discuss <community-discuss at afrinic.net> 
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news 

Take it easy Mr. Alston 

In some African culture, satan is used as an adjective to describe some behavior, in is some cases it even has positive meaning, but you need to be real African to got the meaning. 
please try to respect the diversity of the Africans, and don't always refer the the meanings used outside out continent. 

From: "Andrew Alston" < [ mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com | Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com ] > 
To: "Alan Barrett" < [ mailto:alan.barrett at afrinic.net | alan.barrett at afrinic.net ] >, "Marcus K. G. Adomey" < [ mailto:madomey at hotmail.com | madomey at hotmail.com ] > 
Cc: "community-discuss" < [ mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net | community-discuss at afrinic.net ] > 
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 2:42:47 PM 
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news 

I’m sorry Alan, 

But I am nothing short of appalled that you can equate the sharing of what is VALID concern to this community and the RIR system – a situation that was created by AFRINIC – because no one else created it – with openly calling a member SATAN is just – absolutely mind blowing. 

Your message seems to imply that sharing legitimate concern and telling AFRINIC (referring to not just the corporate entity but the entire body, including this community) to get its act into gear is provocation that some how justifies calling someone SATAN 

This is shocking 

Andrew 

From: Alan Barrett [ [ mailto:alan.barrett at afrinic.net | mailto:alan.barrett at afrinic.net ] ] 
Sent: 09 May 2018 13:39 
To: Marcus K. G. Adomey < [ mailto:madomey at hotmail.com | madomey at hotmail.com ] > 
Cc: [ mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net | community-discuss at afrinic.net ] 
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news 

Dear Marcus, Dear Sander, 

In my opinion, the message from Marcus is a personal attack which is against the code of conduct. However, I understand that Marcus felt provoked by Sander’s message, which I think was unnecessary. (Both messages are copied below.) 

I ask you both to be more careful of what you post. 

Alan Barrett 
CEO, AFRINIC 

> On 9 May 2018, at 09:15, Marcus K. G. Adomey < [ mailto:madomey at hotmail.com | madomey at hotmail.com ] > wrote: 
> 
> Sander, 
> 
> I am not surprise you are that you are sharing the "BAD NEWS" about the mess you and your friends from RIPE and ARIN are causing in AfriNIC in Community. This is a clear evidence that you are deploying your strategy to destroy AfriNIC. This is wicked and would come from EVIL GUYS like you and your friends. Well, any search for SATAN should stop when you are met because there is no difference between you and SATAN. You shameless people, leave us (the sheep) alone for us to fix the mess you have created in this community. Disgraced bad guys from RIPE and ARIN community. 
> 
> 
> 
> Marcus 
> 
> From: Sander Steffann < [ mailto:sander at steffann.nl | sander at steffann.nl ] > 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 6:50:38 AM 
> To: [ mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net | community-discuss at afrinic.net ] 
> Subject: [Community-Discuss] Bad news 
> 
> Hello community, 
> 
> I just noticed that the problems in Afrinic have reached the outside world beyond our community: [ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/08/afrinic_sexual_harassment/ | 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/08/afrinic_sexual_harassment/ ] 
> 
> It makes me really sad. It also poses a great risk to the future of the bottom up self regulation system we (speaking of all the RIRs) have built. Afrinic must get its act together and show the world that it is a respectable, reliable and fair organisation with broad support from its members. 
> 
> Cheers, 
> Sander 
> 
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