[Community-Discuss] [rpd] proposition de politique

Tue May 8 12:28:42 UTC 2018

When I said bylaws, I was actually thinking in membership agreement, but actually either way (or both) may work.

Regards,

Jordi

De: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>
Fecha: martes, 8 de mayo de 2018, 12:26
Para: AfriNIC Resource Policy <rpd at afrinic.net>, <community-discuss at afrinic.net>
Asunto: Re: [rpd] proposition de politique

I’ve also the same opinion, in general NIRs are not needed, but I have the feeling that this may be beyond the scope of AfriNIC.

What happen if a country law mandate it? Then AfriNIC members of that country will be mandated by law to go via the NIR.

Of course, you can “strongly discourage” it by means of pieces:

1)      AfriNIC bylaws disallowing NIRs.

2)      There is no mention of NIR in the policy manual, I just looked at it, so if you can reinforce that with a policy proposal that specifically modify the existing definition of LIR.

Actual text:

2.3 Local Internet Registry (LIR)

A Local Internet Registry (LIR) is an IR that receives allocations from an RIR and primarily assigns address space to 'end-users'. LIRs are generally ISPs. Their customers are other ISPs and possibly end-users. LIRs must be members of AFRINIC.

Proposed text:

2.3 Local Internet Registry (LIR)

A Local Internet Registry (LIR) is an IR that receives allocations from an RIR and primarily assigns address space to 'end-users'. LIRs are generally ISPs. Their customers are other ISPs and possibly end-users. LIRs must be members of AFRINIC and are the only way to allocate resources within the AfriNIC service region.

Regards,

Jordi

De: Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za>
Organización: Posix Systems
Responder a: <mje at posix.co.za>
Fecha: martes, 8 de mayo de 2018, 12:16
Para: AfriNIC Resource Policy <rpd at afrinic.net>, <community-discuss at afrinic.net>
Asunto: Re: [rpd] proposition de politique

Totally agree with you. I believe that NIRs would potentially break (harm) the whole bottom-up approach. They could also have different policies and it also potentially breaks ISP's that have cross-border activities. I like it that AfriNIC currently has no NIRs.

On 08/05/2018 13:23, Kossi Amessinou wrote:

Bonsoir à tous, 

Il apparaît urgent pour notre communauté de veiller à ce que le principe de la mise en place des NIR par pays soit supprimé. Il faut retenir comme principe le modèle LIR et End User pour notre région (RIR). Il faut empêcher les gouvernements et les régulateurs d'avoir une action prépondérante sur internet en les décourageant de mettre en place des NIR. Même si des lois sont pris dans des pays, la communauté doit rester plus forte pour que internet reste un bien public international inaliénable. 

En conclusion, dans notre région, je recommande que nous ayons un RIR avec  des LIR et des End User. Il faut supprimer les NIR. Merci.

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