[Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting -

[Benjamin Eshun]

Owen,

This thread is not about a particular policy as community is
discussing  two  possible threats to Afrinic PDP and its governance in
general.

Your obstinacy to discuss and oppose review proposal everywhere  and
at any occasions, made me doubt and question your real relationship
with Larus...

Thank you for disclosing your work relationship with Larus.You are
conflicted and I would expect you to observe ethics in this discussion
affecting Larus  holding 6 millions  IPV4 and opposing the review
proposal.

Let's expect others who have worked or working with Larus to have the
courage to also disclose.

Policy discussions happen on rpd and must remain there. As for your
claim about my support to the review proposal, I strongly believe in
accountability and transparency. As you keep questioning board
actions, I do support that those who has been granted "right to use"
public resources be held accountable to them.

RIR governance (*) is so important  and i would like to see AFRINIC
holding good position among the five RIRs and will always support
actions aiming to improve governance and accountability.

I have nor worked for Larus nor be sponsored by OIF, but I do know how
OIF support has been instrumental  to this community through, AFNOG,
AFRICACERT, AFTLD..

(*) https://www.nro.net/accountability/rir-accountability/rir-governance-matrix/

regards,

Benjamin
On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 7:19 AM Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
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> > On Dec 10, 2018, at 06:35 , Benjamin Eshun <benjamin.eshun at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Oga Sunday,
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> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 6:33 AM Sunday Folayan <sfolayan at gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> Lieutenant General Borg,
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> >> I agree to some parts about corrupt companies and innocent states.
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> >> It is corruption all the way,  if the State owns the Company. Especially when the voice of the company is the voice of the Nation.
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> >> We are threading on thin boundaries here.
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> > It is not a matter of corrupted companies and innocent states.
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> > It is more about  handling conflict of Interest  and impact analysis
> > of one company, member of Afrinic holding 6 millions of  afrinic  v4
> > space mobilising people to hijack the PDP (where contribution are
> > individual  views) compared  to Intergovernmental organisation like
> > OIF sponsoring people to attend meetings.
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> Benjamin,
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> Once again, you make this claim, but do you have any evidence to support it?
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> While I have done some work for Larus, I have never been instructed by Larus on what opinion I should hold or express.
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> How is it hijacking the PDP when people make a cogent argument against a proposal? I realize you support the proposal. This does not mean that all opposition to the proposal is inherently corrupt and your constant specious claims to the contrary ignore several facts:
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>         1.      Multiple organizations are represented in the opposition.
>         2.      Many people who were not Larus fellows spoke in opposition to the proposal, myself included.
>         3.      Just because Larus sponsored someone’s travel to the meeting does not necessarily mean that they will
>                 express an opinion with which they don’t agree. Certainly I would never do such a thing. You can be assured
>                 that any opinion I ever express on this list or in any meeting is one which I hold personally. This proposal
>                 is deeply flawed, unnecessary, and should be abandoned.
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> Unless you have evidence to the contrary, please, can we stop this contest of innuendo and rumor and get back to substantive discussion of proposed policies?
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> Thanks,
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> Owen
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