[Community-Discuss] Enquiries/clarification

Wed Oct 11 01:38:31 UTC 2017

Owen

I'd agree with you on the issue of transparency. I would request the
following so that this doesn't look like a witch hunt.

Depending on how the Corporate Charter says that members then move a
substantive motion during the next AGM to discuss issues of transparency,
Corporate Governance and what the Board can and cannot share.

*Ali Hussein*

*Principal*

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On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 1:50 AM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:

> I think, perhaps, Andrew believes that there are real problems facing
> AfriNIC and the AfriNIC community and, rather than accusing him of a witch
> hunt, I suspect he is asking for increased transparency and information on
> behalf of the community in the interests of making those problems more
> visible in the hopes they can be addressed before festering into something
> much worse. I applaud his efforts in this area.
>
> Remember, as a board member and now as a former board member, he is bound
> by NDA not to publicly discuss privileged information he knows from his
> time on the board. However, that does not preclude him from asking
> questions as a member of the community if he feels that some fraction of
> that information should be made available to the community rather than
> being held in privilege.
>
> I believe that in general, an organization like an RIR which is managing
> resources on behalf of a community and serving as that community’s
> representative in various external fora (ICANN, IGF, etc.) should be as
> transparent in all of its processes and dealings as possible. This means,
> IMHO, that unless there is a legitimate need for confidentiality (legal
> strategies in active litigation, staff salaries, personnel matters, etc.),
> information should generally be made available to the community by default.
>
> IMHO, the fact that the board publishes the minutes of board meetings, but
> not those of subcommittees is an unfortunate and inappropriate workaround
> against transparency and I encourage the board to rectify this situation
> forthwith.
>
> Owen
>
> On Oct 9, 2017, at 12:40 AM, Timothy Ola Akinfenwa <
> akin.akinfenwa at uniosun.edu.ng> wrote:
>
> Dear Andrew,
> While I am not speaking for or on behalf of the Board, I think your
> assertion and position on this matter is rather too harsh and suspicious.
>
> You piled a heap of questions for the Board members forgetting they also
> have lives outside AFRINIC. The chairman reliably informed you of how he
> has been moving around for sponsorship to host the next meeting. I find it
> absurd that all of a sudden you want a lot of questions answered, you want
> complete transparency, you want undivided attention and commitment from
> Board members, asking for this and that from a board you were actually part
> of less than 6 months ago? A board you narrowly missed being re-elected
> into?
>
> *For all the good your intention is worth*, I think you should change
> your approach to this fact-finding course of yours else someone like me
> begin to think you are only out to witch-hunt the Board. This can't just be
> mere coincidence please.
>
> My concern is that why didn't you attempt to seek all these clarifications
> when you were part of the Board?
>
> Now you are comparing our Board members to politicians? I find this
> derogatory IMHO and I think your actions if not checked may spell doom for
> this community.
>
> Cheers
>
> On Oct 9, 2017 5:34 AM, "Andrew Alston" <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately – it seems we are having in an era of silence these days
>> from our elected representatives – and when responses do come – they are
>> extremely delayed.
>>
>>
>>
>> I really am curious to see the amount of money spent on travel (in
>> particular board travel) in the next release of the financials – because
>> I’m interested if there is so little time to answer the community because
>> the board members are busy flying around to conferences that we never seen
>> any feedback or reports from.
>>
>>
>>
>> I asked on this list before if the board would consent to providing a
>> community report for each board trip taken and paid for with our money –
>> that query – never got answered either – and I’m not holding my breath.
>>
>>
>>
>> I guess we just have to wait till next year to roll around and speak with
>> the ballot – maybe that voice will get heard – though I suspect that the
>> entire board will suddenly become massively active right before the
>> election and we’ll get pretty prompt responses as people start looking for
>> votes… same thing you see with politicians who disappear right after
>> elections until the time they need your votes again….
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *"kutestface at gmail.com" <kutestface at gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Sunday, 8 October 2017 at 15:37
>> *To: *"community-discuss-request at afrinic.net" <
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>> *Subject: *[Community-Discuss] Enquiries/clarification
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Community, hope this meets everyone well. I had written a mail on
>> Friday the 06th but you all seem mute about it and no reply or response.
>> You all seem to overlook as if nothing. It is well. I believe you all have
>> conscience..
>>
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>> Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 12:56:26 +0000
>> From: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
>> To: Sunday Folayan <sfolayan at gmail.com>, General Discussions of
>> AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>
>> Cc: AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <board at afrinic.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions
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>> Sunday,
>>
>> Firstly, thank you for agreeing to the investigation - we will await
>> regular progress reports.
>>
>> Secondly - to say that the board was unware of the fact that I was
>> referring to competitions issues - is disingenuous in my view.
>>
>> I point to an email on the 12/07/2017 sent to the RPD list - which
>> clearly and demonstrably makes reference to the competitions act - and to
>> which I got replies.
>>
>> The questions I asked are extremely easy to correlate between that email
>> and the email asking the formal questions - Let me quote from aspects of
>> that email:
>>
>>
>> 1. It is fact that the prices per annum paid to AfriNIC by larger members
>> are multiple times higher than what they are in certain other registries
>> (there is a price differential of in excess of 20 times between AFRINIC and
>> another registry in certain categories)
>> 2. The lack of a bi-directional cross-regional transfer policy puts
>> AfriNIC at direct risk of being in potential violation of the competitions
>> act of 2007 - since AFRINIC is in effect forcing its members to remain
>> using it - and paying the prices which they insist on and which the members
>> have no control over
>> 3. The fact that other RIR's DO permit members from other regions to
>> inbound transfer space means that there is choice - and the members of
>> AFRINIC are being held to ransom through the lack of a transfer policy
>> 4. The argument that the PDP has not granted a transfer policy does not
>> grant the company, or the board, immunity from acting within the bounds of
>> the law in the area in which it is domiciled.
>> 5. The board - as the effective "owners" of the company - have the power
>> implement a transfer policy - because irrespective of what the bylaws say -
>> as the sole members of the legal entity that is AFRINIC and as directors -
>> the power DOES reside with them.
>> 6. The implementation of any policy that could result in the revocation
>> of resources while AFRINIC is continuing to act as a de-facto monopoly that
>> is already possibly in direct violation of the competitions act would be
>> shear insanity, since it FORCE entities into a position where they either
>> spend a TON of money complying with audits which may or may not be
>> justified - or lose those resources - with no ability to transfer the hell
>> out.
>>
>> Basically - what I am saying is - while the competitions aspects have
>> never been tested in a court - and actually in Mauritius - never need to be
>> tested in a manner that costs anything or involves lawyers - because of the
>> way their competitions tribunal works that aspect, when combined with this
>> policy, create a perfect storm that I honestly believe would destroy
>> afrinic.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> From: Sunday Folayan [mailto:sfolayan at gmail.com]
>> Sent: 05 October 2017 19:42
>> To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>
>> Cc: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>; AFRINIC Board of
>> Directors' List <board at afrinic.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions
>>
>>
>> Dear Mr Alston,
>>
>> I have been on the road between Abuja and Lagos, rallying support from
>> the Nigerian Government for the hosting of the upcoming AFRINIC Meeting in
>> November, without access to the Internet.
>>
>> On a question: We previously understood that you wanted an investigation
>> into whether or not the lack of a bi-directional inter-RIR transfer policy
>> had any implications considering the Companies Act. We replied that we
>> could see no issues with the absence of a policy, and we could not answer
>> for the implications of any hypothetical policy. So I don't think it's
>> appropriate to say we refused to act since you've just now clarified that
>> you meant the Competition Act, not the Companies Act. We hope you will help
>> the Board maximize the use of her time in future.
>>
>> Having said that, the Board will commission an investigation into the
>> implications of the lack of a bi-directional inter-RIR transfer policy,
>> with respect to the Competition Act. We expect the work to start by 20
>> October 2017 (2 weeks from now). We do not know how long the investigation
>> will take.
>>
>> Kind Regards ..
>>
>> Sunday.
>>
>> On 05/10/2017 15:43, Andrew Alston wrote:
>> Dear Board,
>>
>> Any indication as to when we will hear from you again regarding this?
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>> From: Andrew Alston [mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com]
>> Sent: 03 October 2017 10:27
>> To: Sunday Folayan <sfolayan at gmail.com><mailto:sfolayan at gmail.com>
>> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net
>> ><mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>; AFRINIC Board of Directors'
>> List <board at afrinic.net><mailto:board at afrinic.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions
>>
>> Dear Board, Sunday,
>>
>> I had some hope this board was slightly more... committed than this?
>>
>> I kind of fear what is going to happen to the audit report next year, and
>> the other reports we're supposed to get from this board. Twice committed -
>> publicly - twice failed to deliver on the commitments.
>>
>> I now call this board in direct violation of section 3.4.ii - since
>> committing to communication by not delivering it is certainly not inductive
>> to open and transparent communication. I also now call this board in direct
>> violation of section 3.4.vii - which states that this board must
>> disseminate among its members information on all matters affecting the
>> Company and its members, and to provide a central channel of communication
>> for the members.
>>
>> Now - you can find many semantic reasons for not fulfilling your
>> commitments to this community - and I am sure they will come - excuses and
>> all the rest of it - and I'm pretty sure I could find relevant sections of
>> the companies act - particularly about directors acting in good faith - but
>> then at some point - the whole "that applies to shareholders, hence
>> registered members" argument would most likely appear - been down that road
>> before as well.
>>
>> Here is a suggestion to this board - if you don't have the time and
>> effort to fulfil the commitments YOU made in the time frames YOU made them
>> - maybe it's time to cancel ALL board travel - so instead of wasting this
>> communities money on flying around the world for a week or two per board
>> member - you have the time to fulfil your responsibilities as a board?
>>
>> It is a disgrace that a board elected by this community - a board that
>> lobbied on platforms of transparency, of openness, of promoting the bottom
>> up approach, would sit and promise answers to this community and then miss
>> the deadlines they themselves set, not once, but twice.
>>
>> If you don't have time to do the job - why did you put your name forward
>> - get elected - and take the job.
>>
>> Saddened and disillusioned (even more so than before)
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> From: Sunday Folayan [mailto:sfolayan at gmail.com]
>> Sent: 24 September 2017 22:08
>> To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com<mailto:
>> Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>>
>> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net<mailto:
>> community-discuss at afrinic.net>>; AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <
>> board at afrinic.net<mailto:board at afrinic.net>>
>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions
>>
>>
>> Dear Mr Alston,
>>
>> 2nd October 2017.
>>
>> Thanks and Regards ...
>>
>> Sunday.
>> On 22/09/2017 22:58, Andrew Alston wrote:
>> Sunday - let us be clear here - is that two weeks since the original
>> expiry date 10 days ago?
>>
>> Is that 10 days from today? Is that 14 days from today? Sorry - but after
>> you've missed your own deadline by 10 days and taken 10 days to request the
>> extension - it now becomes incumbent on you to give specifics as to exactly
>> when we can expect the answers you committed to, so let's avoid any
>> ambiguity here - can we have a date please
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>> From: Sunday Folayan [mailto:sfolayan at gmail.com]
>> Sent: 23 September 2017 00:52
>> To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com><mailto:
>> Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
>> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net
>> ><mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>; AFRINIC Board of Directors'
>> List <board at afrinic.net><mailto:board at afrinic.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions
>>
>>
>> Dear Mr Alston,
>>
>> Kindly accept my apology for a delayed response to your questions.
>>
>> The response is pending the final consideration of the Board.
>>
>> I will appreciate an extension of two weeks.
>>
>> With kind regards ...
>>
>> Sunday Folayan.
>> On 21/09/2017 23:32, Andrew Alston wrote:
>> Dear Sunday and Board of Directors,
>>
>> It concerns me greatly that the elected board of a community based
>> organisation would make clear and firm commitments to reverting back to
>> this community on some pretty serious questions - then miss the deadline
>> they themselves set with no explanation to the community who is waiting for
>> answers. And then, when questioned as to when the commitments made by the
>> board would be met - stay entirely silent and say nothing.
>>
>> I understand that the board is busy, but a commitment is a commitment,
>> and it is not this community that set the time frames here - it was the
>> board who promised such.
>>
>> Again I ask - when will the board meet its commitments to this community
>> that are clearly stated below?
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>> From: Andrew Alston [mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com]
>> Sent: 18 September 2017 09:54
>> To: Sunday Folayan <sfolayan at gmail.com><mailto:sfolayan at gmail.com>
>> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net
>> ><mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>; AFRINIC Board of Directors'
>> List <board at afrinic.net><mailto:board at afrinic.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions
>>
>> Dear Sunday, Board of Directors.
>>
>> As per the below, we were told we would have a response within 60 days -
>> this is now 3 days overdue.
>>
>> Can we please get an indication on when this commitment that was made
>> will be met?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>> From: Sunday Folayan [mailto:sfolayan at gmail.com]
>> Sent: 15 July 2017 09:03
>> To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com<mailto:
>> Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>>
>> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net<mailto:
>> community-discuss at afrinic.net>>; AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <
>> board at afrinic.net<mailto:board at afrinic.net>>
>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions
>>
>>
>> Dear Mr Alston,
>>
>> Thank you very much for your email and questions.
>>
>> The Board will get back to you within the next 60 days.
>>
>> Regards ...
>>
>> Sunday.
>>
>> On 14/07/2017 07:57, Andrew Alston wrote:
>> Dear AfriNIC Board,
>>
>> I have been advised that when I had questions or request, that I put them
>> in simple, direct requests. The following are a list of requests
>>
>>
>> 1. Can the board please commission an investigation into whether the lack
>> of a bi-directional transfer policy puts AFRINIC at risk of running afoul
>> of the Mauritius Companies Act of 2007, and in what areas, and exactly what
>> the potential liability is.
>> 2. Can the board please advise the time frames required to commence such
>> an investigation, and once said investigation has been commissioned, advise
>> on the time frames to complete said investigation, and once concluded
>> advise the community of the full results of said investigation
>> 3. Can the board please investigate if the proceedings of board
>> sub-committees, under Mauritian governance, form part of board proceedings,
>> and if they do, advise the community when the meetings of said proceedings
>> shall be published as per the agreement to publish the minutes of board
>> meetings.
>> 4. Can the board please commission an investigation into the limits that
>> the RSA can be modified without member consent in the context of Mauritian
>> law and advise the community of the results (Under Mauritian law, can a
>> contract be changed without the consent of both parties, to the detriment
>> of one, irrespective of what is already signed)
>> 5. In addition to my request this morning on the members list requesting
>> the board to check if any procedures and policies required by any MOU to
>> which AFRINIC is a signatory are missing, can the board please investigate
>> if there are any policies, procedures or committees that are required by
>> a.) the CPM b.) The bylaws c.) the companies act d.) any other source which
>> binds the company and advise the community of a.) the time frames to
>> complete said investigation and b.) once known, the full list of
>> outstanding policies/procedures/committees and c.) the time frames to
>> rectify these areas.
>>
>>
>> I look forward to hearing the results of the above.
>>
>> Many Thanks
>>
>> Andrew Alston
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>> Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2017 15:29:23 +0100
>> From: kutestface at gmail.com
>> To: community-discuss at afrinic.net
>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Community-Discuss Digest, Vol 225,
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>> Hello All, great work you guys are doing out there, however, I had
>> written earlier to ?fellowship at afrinic.net on the 27th of September and
>> 03rd of December 2017 with no reply till date and below the details:
>>
>> Dear Afrinic-27, thanks so much for this opportunity, however, I noticed
>> from the published lists, no NIgerian was selected even after the mail I
>> got for contact as a fellow. I also noticed that my mail on the 27th hasn't
>> been replied to. May I know what's really is going on. Thanks so much as I
>> await a favorable reply/response.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 8:40 AM, wales nwelih <wnwelih at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello Afrinic, I hope this meets you all well. I checked your website as
>> published that (Final Announcement and Publication of Fellow list 26th
>> September 2017 but have not seen anything yet. I used this website to check
>> - https://meeting.afrinic.net/afrinic-27/
>> I hope I am on the right track. Thanks and awaiting your response.
>>
>> Mail I got from them on the 11th of September...?
>>
>> On behalf of the AFRINIC-27 fellowship selection committee, we would like
>> to thank you for your interest in attending the AFRINIC-27 meeting in Lagos
>> - Nigeria.
>>
>> Note that this meeting *is free of charge*, and as citizen of Nigeria you
>> can attend by registering online at: AFRINIC_27_MEETING
>>
>> You can stay informed with updates and the latest news about AFRINIC 27
>> via our discussion lists, Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/afrinic)
>> and on Twitter (http://twitter.com/afrinic). We are using the hashtag
>> #AFRINIC27.
>>
>> If you are not yet subscribed to our various mailing lists, please go to
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>> For any information, please contact us on fellowship at afrinic.net.
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>> Regards,
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>> May I really knw what is going on and why wasn't any Nigerian selected
>> amongst the 15 Fellows for this year AFRINIC-27? Thanks
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2017 14:43:13 +0000
>> From: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
>> To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>, Sunday Folayan
>> <sfolayan at gmail.com>
>> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>,
>> AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <board at afrinic.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions
>> Message-ID:
>> <AM4PR03MB17942E80B9EE341AB7799B95EE700 at AM4PR03MB1794.eurprd
>> 03.prod.outlook.com>
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>>
>> Dear Board,
>>
>> Any indication as to when we will hear from you again regarding this?
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>> From: Andrew Alston [mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com]
>> Sent: 03 October 2017 10:27
>> To: Sunday Folayan <sfolayan at gmail.com>
>> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>;
>> AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <board at afrinic.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions
>>
>> Dear Board, Sunday,
>>
>> I had some hope this board was slightly more... committed than this?
>>
>> I kind of fear what is going to happen to the audit report next year, and
>> the other reports we're supposed to get from this board. Twice committed -
>> publicly - twice failed to deliver on the commitments.
>>
>> I now call this board in direct violation of section 3.4.ii - since
>> committing to communication by not delivering it is certainly not inductive
>> to open and transparent communication. I also now call this board in direct
>> violation of section 3.4.vii - which states that this board must
>> disseminate among its members information on all matters affecting the
>> Company and its members, and to provide a central channel of communication
>> for the members.
>>
>> Now - you can find many semantic reasons for not fulfilling your
>> commitments to this community - and I am sure they will come - excuses and
>> all the rest of it - and I'm pretty sure I could find relevant sections of
>> the companies act - particularly about directors acting in good faith - but
>> then at some point - the whole "that applies to shareholders, hence
>> registered members" argument would most likely appear - been down that road
>> before as well.
>>
>> Here is a suggestion to this board - if you don't have the time and
>> effort to fulfil the commitments YOU made in the time frames YOU made them
>> - maybe it's time to cancel ALL board travel - so instead of wasting this
>> communities money on flying around the world for a week or two per board
>> member - you have the time to fulfil your responsibilities as a board?
>>
>> It is a disgrace that a board elected by this community - a board that
>> lobbied on platforms of transparency, of openness, of promoting the bottom
>> up approach, would sit and promise answers to this community and then miss
>> the deadlines they themselves set, not once, but twice.
>>
>> If you don't have time to do the job - why did you put your name forward
>> - get elected - and take the job.
>>
>> Saddened and disillusioned (even more so than before)
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> From: Sunday Folayan [mailto:sfolayan at gmail.com]
>> Sent: 24 September 2017 22:08
>> To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com<mailto:
>> Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>>
>> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net<mailto:
>> community-discuss at afrinic.net>>; AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <
>> board at afrinic.net<mailto:board at afrinic.net>>
>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions
>>
>>
>> Dear Mr Alston,
>>
>> 2nd October 2017.
>>
>> Thanks and Regards ...
>>
>> Sunday.
>> On 22/09/2017 22:58, Andrew Alston wrote:
>> Sunday - let us be clear here - is that two weeks since the original
>> expiry date 10 days ago?
>>
>> Is that 10 days from today? Is that 14 days from today? Sorry - but after
>> you've missed your own deadline by 10 days and taken 10 days to request the
>> extension - it now becomes incumbent on you to give specifics as to exactly
>> when we can expect the answers you committed to, so let's avoid any
>> ambiguity here - can we have a date please
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>> From: Sunday Folayan [mailto:sfolayan at gmail.com]
>> Sent: 23 September 2017 00:52
>> To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com><mailto:
>> Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
>> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net
>> ><mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>; AFRINIC Board of Directors'
>> List <board at afrinic.net><mailto:board at afrinic.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions
>>
>>
>> Dear Mr Alston,
>>
>> Kindly accept my apology for a delayed response to your questions.
>>
>> The response is pending the final consideration of the Board.
>>
>> I will appreciate an extension of two weeks.
>>
>> With kind regards ...
>>
>> Sunday Folayan.
>> On 21/09/2017 23:32, Andrew Alston wrote:
>> Dear Sunday and Board of Directors,
>>
>> It concerns me greatly that the elected board of a community based
>> organisation would make clear and firm commitments to reverting back to
>> this community on some pretty serious questions - then miss the deadline
>> they themselves set with no explanation to the community who is waiting for
>> answers. And then, when questioned as to when the commitments made by the
>> board would be met - stay entirely silent and say nothing.
>>
>> I understand that the board is busy, but a commitment is a commitment,
>> and it is not this community that set the time frames here - it was the
>> board who promised such.
>>
>> Again I ask - when will the board meet its commitments to this community
>> that are clearly stated below?
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>> From: Andrew Alston [mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com]
>> Sent: 18 September 2017 09:54
>> To: Sunday Folayan <sfolayan at gmail.com><mailto:sfolayan at gmail.com>
>> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net
>> ><mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>; AFRINIC Board of Directors'
>> List <board at afrinic.net><mailto:board at afrinic.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions
>>
>> Dear Sunday, Board of Directors.
>>
>> As per the below, we were told we would have a response within 60 days -
>> this is now 3 days overdue.
>>
>> Can we please get an indication on when this commitment that was made
>> will be met?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>> From: Sunday Folayan [mailto:sfolayan at gmail.com]
>> Sent: 15 July 2017 09:03
>> To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com<mailto:
>> Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>>
>> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net<mailto:
>> community-discuss at afrinic.net>>; AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <
>> board at afrinic.net<mailto:board at afrinic.net>>
>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions
>>
>>
>> Dear Mr Alston,
>>
>> Thank you very much for your email and questions.
>>
>> The Board will get back to you within the next 60 days.
>>
>> Regards ...
>>
>> Sunday.
>>
>> On 14/07/2017 07:57, Andrew Alston wrote:
>> Dear AfriNIC Board,
>>
>> I have been advised that when I had questions or request, that I put them
>> in simple, direct requests. The following are a list of requests
>>
>>
>> 1. Can the board please commission an investigation into whether the lack
>> of a bi-directional transfer policy puts AFRINIC at risk of running afoul
>> of the Mauritius Companies Act of 2007, and in what areas, and exactly what
>> the potential liability is.
>> 2. Can the board please advise the time frames required to commence such
>> an investigation, and once said investigation has been commissioned, advise
>> on the time frames to complete said investigation, and once concluded
>> advise the community of the full results of said investigation
>> 3. Can the board please investigate if the proceedings of board
>> sub-committees, under Mauritian governance, form part of board proceedings,
>> and if they do, advise the community when the meetings of said proceedings
>> shall be published as per the agreement to publish the minutes of board
>> meetings.
>> 4. Can the board please commission an investigation into the limits that
>> the RSA can be modified without member consent in the context of Mauritian
>> law and advise the community of the results (Under Mauritian law, can a
>> contract be changed without the consent of both parties, to the detriment
>> of one, irrespective of what is already signed)
>> 5. In addition to my request this morning on the members list requesting
>> the board to check if any procedures and policies required by any MOU to
>> which AFRINIC is a signatory are missing, can the board please investigate
>> if there are any policies, procedures or committees that are required by
>> a.) the CPM b.) The bylaws c.) the companies act d.) any other source which
>> binds the company and advise the community of a.) the time frames to
>> complete said investigation and b.) once known, the full list of
>> outstanding policies/procedures/committees and c.) the time frames to
>> rectify these areas.
>>
>>
>> I look forward to hearing the results of the above.
>>
>> Many Thanks
>>
>> Andrew Alston
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Community-Discuss mailing list
>>
>> Community-Discuss at afrinic.net<mailto:Community-Discuss at afrinic.net>
>>
>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss<
>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Sunday Adekunle Folayan
>>
>> Managing Director
>>
>> General data Engineering Services (SKANNET)
>>
>> 16 Oshin Road, Kongi Bodija, Ibadan - Nigeria
>>
>> Phone: +234 802 291 2202, +234 816 866 7523
>>
>> Email: sfolayan at skannet.com.ng<mailto:sfolayan at skannet.com.ng>,
>> sfolayan at gmail.com<mailto:sfolayan at gmail.com>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Sunday Adekunle Folayan
>>
>> Managing Director
>>
>> General data Engineering Services (SKANNET)
>>
>> 16 Oshin Road, Kongi Bodija, Ibadan - Nigeria
>>
>> Phone: +234 802 291 2202, +234 816 866 7523
>>
>> Email: sfolayan at skannet.com.ng<mailto:sfolayan at skannet.com.ng>,
>> sfolayan at gmail.com<mailto:sfolayan at gmail.com>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Community-Discuss mailing list
>>
>> Community-Discuss at afrinic.net<mailto:Community-Discuss at afrinic.net>
>>
>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss<
>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Sunday Adekunle Folayan
>>
>> Managing Director
>>
>> General data Engineering Services (SKANNET)
>>
>> 16 Oshin Road, Kongi Bodija, Ibadan - Nigeria
>>
>> Phone: +234 802 291 2202, +234 816 866 7523
>>
>> Email: sfolayan at skannet.com.ng<mailto:sfolayan at skannet.com.ng>,
>> sfolayan at gmail.com<mailto:sfolayan at gmail.com>
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>> Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2017 17:41:48 +0100
>> From: Sunday Folayan <sfolayan at gmail.com>
>> To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>
>> Cc: AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <board at afrinic.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions
>> Message-ID: <50110e54-6e28-fd45-1507-f8b4bbf99d71 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"
>>
>> Dear Mr Alston,
>>
>> I have been on the road between Abuja and Lagos, rallying support from
>> the Nigerian Government for the hosting of the upcoming AFRINIC Meeting
>> in November, without access to the Internet.
>>
>>
>> On a question: We previously understood that you wanted an investigation
>> into whether or not the lack of a bi-directional inter-RIR transfer
>> policy had any implications considering the Companies Act. We replied
>> that we could see no issues with the absence of a policy, and we could
>> not answer for the implications of any hypothetical policy. So I don't
>> think it's appropriate to say we refused to act since you've just now
>> clarified that you meant the Competition Act, not the Companies Act. We
>> hope you will help the Board maximize the use of her time in future.
>>
>> Havingsaid that, the Board will commission an investigation into the
>> implications of the lack of a bi-directional inter-RIR transfer policy,
>> with respect to the Competition Act. We expect the work to start by 20
>> October 2017 (2 weeks from now). We do not know how long the
>> investigation will take.
>>
>> Kind Regards ..
>>
>> Sunday.
>>
>>
>> On 05/10/2017 15:43, Andrew Alston wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear Board,
>> >
>> > Any indication as to when we will hear from you again regarding this?
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> >
>> > *From:*Andrew Alston [mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com]
>> > *Sent:* 03 October 2017 10:27
>> > *To:* Sunday Folayan <sfolayan at gmail.com>
>> > *Cc:* General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>;
>> > AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <board at afrinic.net>
>> > *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions
>> >
>> > Dear Board, Sunday,
>> >
>> > I had some hope this board was slightly more? committed than this?
>> >
>> > I kind of fear what is going to happen to the audit report next year,
>> > and the other reports we?re supposed to get from this board. Twice
>> > committed ? publicly ? twice failed to deliver on the commitments.
>> >
>> > I now call this board in direct violation of section 3.4.ii ? since
>> > committing to communication by not delivering it is certainly not
>> > inductive to open and transparent communication. I also now call this
>> > board in direct violation of section 3.4.vii ? which states that this
>> > board must disseminate among its members information on all matters
>> > affecting the Company and its members, and to provide a central
>> > channel of communication for the members.
>> >
>> > Now ? you can find many semantic reasons for not fulfilling your
>> > commitments to this community ? and I am sure they will come ? excuses
>> > and all the rest of it ? and I?m pretty sure I could find relevant
>> > sections of the companies act ? particularly about directors acting in
>> > good faith ? but then at some point ? the whole ?that applies to
>> > shareholders, hence registered members? argument would most likely
>> > appear ? been down that road before as well.
>> >
>> > Here is a suggestion to this board ? if you don?t have the time and
>> > effort to fulfil the commitments YOU made in the time frames YOU made
>> > them ? maybe it?s time to cancel ALL board travel ? so instead of
>> > wasting this communities money on flying around the world for a week
>> > or two per board member ? you have the time to fulfil your
>> > responsibilities as a board?
>> >
>> > It is a disgrace that a board elected by this community ? a board that
>> > lobbied on platforms of transparency, of openness, of promoting the
>> > bottom up approach, would sit and promise answers to this community
>> > and then miss the deadlines they themselves set, not once, but twice.
>> >
>> > If you don?t have time to do the job ? why did you put your name
>> > forward ? get elected ? and take the job.
>> >
>> > Saddened and disillusioned (even more so than before)
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> >
>> > *From:*Sunday Folayan [mailto:sfolayan at gmail.com]
>> > *Sent:* 24 September 2017 22:08
>> > *To:* Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com
>> > <mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>>
>> > *Cc:* General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net
>> > <mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>>; AFRINIC Board of Directors'
>> > List <board at afrinic.net <mailto:board at afrinic.net>>
>> > *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions
>> >
>> > Dear Mr Alston,
>> >
>> > 2nd October 2017.
>> >
>> > Thanks and Regards ...
>> >
>> > Sunday.
>> >
>> > On 22/09/2017 22:58, Andrew Alston wrote:
>> >
>> > Sunday ? let us be clear here ? is that two weeks since the
>> > original expiry date 10 days ago?
>> >
>> > Is that 10 days from today? Is that 14 days from today? Sorry ?
>> > but after you?ve missed your own deadline by 10 days and taken 10
>> > days to request the extension ? it now becomes incumbent on you to
>> > give specifics as to exactly when we can expect the answers you
>> > committed to, so let?s avoid any ambiguity here ? can we have a
>> > date please
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> >
>> > *From:*Sunday Folayan [mailto:sfolayan at gmail.com]
>> > *Sent:* 23 September 2017 00:52
>> > *To:* Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
>> > <mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
>> > *Cc:* General Discussions of AFRINIC
>> > <community-discuss at afrinic.net>
>> > <mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>; AFRINIC Board of
>> > Directors' List <board at afrinic.net> <mailto:board at afrinic.net>
>> > *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions
>> >
>> > Dear Mr Alston,
>> >
>> > Kindly accept my apology for a delayed response to your questions.
>> >
>> > The response is pending the final consideration of the Board.
>> >
>> > I will appreciate an extension of two weeks.
>> >
>> > With kind regards ...
>> >
>> > Sunday Folayan.
>> >
>> > On 21/09/2017 23:32, Andrew Alston wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear Sunday and Board of Directors,
>> >
>> > It concerns me greatly that the elected board of a community
>> > based organisation would make clear and firm commitments to
>> > reverting back to this community on some pretty serious
>> > questions ? then miss the deadline they themselves set with no
>> > explanation to the community who is waiting for answers. And
>> > then, when questioned as to when the commitments made by the
>> > board would be met ? stay entirely silent and say nothing.
>> >
>> > I understand that the board is busy, but a commitment is a
>> > commitment, and it is not this community that set the time
>> > frames here ? it was the board who promised such.
>> >
>> > Again I ask ? when will the board meet its commitments to this
>> > community that are clearly stated below?
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> >
>> > *From:*Andrew Alston [mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com]
>> > *Sent:* 18 September 2017 09:54
>> > *To:* Sunday Folayan <sfolayan at gmail.com>
>> > <mailto:sfolayan at gmail.com>
>> > *Cc:* General Discussions of AFRINIC
>> > <community-discuss at afrinic.net>
>> > <mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>; AFRINIC Board of
>> > Directors' List <board at afrinic.net> <mailto:board at afrinic.net>
>> > *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions
>> >
>> > Dear Sunday, Board of Directors.
>> >
>> > As per the below, we were told we would have a response within
>> > 60 days ? this is now 3 days overdue.
>> >
>> > Can we please get an indication on when this commitment that
>> > was made will be met?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> >
>> > *From:*Sunday Folayan [mailto:sfolayan at gmail.com]
>> > *Sent:* 15 July 2017 09:03
>> > *To:* Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com
>> > <mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>>
>> > *Cc:* General Discussions of AFRINIC
>> > <community-discuss at afrinic.net
>> > <mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>>; AFRINIC Board of
>> > Directors' List <board at afrinic.net <mailto:board at afrinic.net>>
>> > *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Requests and questions
>> >
>> > Dear Mr Alston,
>> >
>> > Thank you very much for your email and questions.
>> >
>> > The Board will get back to you within the next 60 days.
>> >
>> > Regards ...
>> >
>> > Sunday.
>> >
>> > On 14/07/2017 07:57, Andrew Alston wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear AfriNIC Board,
>> >
>> > I have been advised that when I had questions or request,
>> > that I put them in simple, direct requests. The following
>> > are a list of requests
>> >
>> > 1. Can the board please commission an investigation into
>> > whether the lack of a bi-directional transfer policy
>> > puts AFRINIC at risk of running afoul of the Mauritius
>> > Companies Act of 2007, and in what areas, and exactly
>> > what the potential liability is.
>> > 2. Can the board please advise the time frames required
>> > to commence such an investigation, and once said
>> > investigation has been commissioned, advise on the
>> > time frames to complete said investigation, and once
>> > concluded advise the community of the full results of
>> > said investigation
>> > 3. Can the board please investigate if the proceedings of
>> > board sub-committees, under Mauritian governance, form
>> > part of board proceedings, and if they do, advise the
>> > community when the meetings of said proceedings shall
>> > be published as per the agreement to publish the
>> > minutes of board meetings.
>> > 4. Can the board please commission an investigation into
>> > the limits that the RSA can be modified without member
>> > consent in the context of Mauritian law and advise the
>> > community of the results (Under Mauritian law, can a
>> > contract be changed without the consent of both
>> > parties, to the detriment of one, irrespective of what
>> > is already signed)
>> > 5. In addition to my request this morning on the members
>> > list requesting the board to check if any procedures
>> > and policies required by any MOU to which AFRINIC is a
>> > signatory are missing, can the board please
>> > investigate if there are any policies, procedures or
>> > committees that are required by a.) the CPM b.) The
>> > bylaws c.) the companies act d.) any other source
>> > which binds the company and advise the community of
>> > a.) the time frames to complete said investigation and
>> > b.) once known, the full list of outstanding
>> > policies/procedures/committees and c.) the time frames
>> > to rectify these areas.
>> >
>> > I look forward to hearing the results of the above.
>> >
>> > Many Thanks
>> >
>> > Andrew Alston
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> >
>> > Community-Discuss mailing list
>> >
>> > Community-Discuss at afrinic.net
>> > <mailto:Community-Discuss at afrinic.net>
>> >
>> > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > --------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Sunday Adekunle Folayan
>> >
>> > Managing Director
>> >
>> > General data Engineering Services (SKANNET)
>> >
>> > 16 Oshin Road, Kongi Bodija, Ibadan - Nigeria
>> >
>> > Phone: +234 802 291 2202, +234 816 866 7523
>> >
>> > Email:sfolayan at skannet.com.ng <mailto:sfolayan at skannet.com.ng>,
>> sfolayan at gmail.com <mailto:sfolayan at gmail.com>
>> >
>> > ---------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > --------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Sunday Adekunle Folayan
>> >
>> > Managing Director
>> >
>> > General data Engineering Services (SKANNET)
>> >
>> > 16 Oshin Road, Kongi Bodija, Ibadan - Nigeria
>> >
>> > Phone: +234 802 291 2202, +234 816 866 7523
>> >
>> > Email:sfolayan at skannet.com.ng <mailto:sfolayan at skannet.com.ng>,
>> sfolayan at gmail.com <mailto:sfolayan at gmail.com>
>> >
>> > ---------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> >
>> > Community-Discuss mailing list
>> >
>> > Community-Discuss at afrinic.net <mailto:Community-Discuss at afrinic.net>
>> >
>> > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
>> >
>> > --
>> > --------------------------------------------------
>> > Sunday Adekunle Folayan
>> > Managing Director
>> > General data Engineering Services (SKANNET)
>> > 16 Oshin Road, Kongi Bodija, Ibadan - Nigeria
>> > Phone: +234 802 291 2202, +234 816 866 7523
>> > Email:sfolayan at skannet.com.ng <mailto:sfolayan at skannet.com.ng>,
>> sfolayan at gmail.com <mailto:sfolayan at gmail.com>
>> > ---------------------------------------------------
>>
>> --
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> Sunday Adekunle Folayan
>> Managing Director
>> General data Engineering Services (SKANNET)
>> 16 Oshin Road, Kongi Bodija, Ibadan - Nigeria
>> Phone: +234 802 291 2202, +234 816 866 7523
>> Email: sfolayan at skannet.com.ng, sfolayan at gmail.com
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