[Community-Discuss] Incident between myself and Prof. Quaynor

Mon May 29 13:42:09 UTC 2017

I did raise a red flag at AIS'16 in Botswana about the conduct and
utterances of some members that took to the floor. As a new-comer I felt a
lot was still desired especially when I compared what I witnessed to my
experience at my first ICANN meeting (ICANN52). Reading about this
unfortunate incident now makes me wonder whether my comment was ever given
serious consideration.

Regards,

Catherine

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Arnaud AMELINA <amelnaud at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Community
>
> French version, English version after
>
> Bonjour chère communauté,
>
> Non M. Alston cela ne s'est pas passé comme ça. Nous étions nombreaux à
> être assis en cercle au salon intérieur du bar, et toi à la terrasse
> extérieur,  et tu as pu dans le noir identifié la position de Prof Nii
> pour  mener ton action. Chez nous un adage dit "Une souris, même saoulée
> n'oublie jamais le carrefour du chat". Si tu respectais Prof tu n'aurais
> jamais posé cet acte, même saoulé. Ce n'est pas la première fois que tu
> tiens ce genre de comportement, puis tu présente des plates excuses, trop
> c'est trop, il est temps que le Board prenne ses responsabilités et te
> virer de leur sain car tu est néfaste pour eux et pour la communauté. Par
> conséquent je t'invite personnellement en temps que membre de la
> communauté, respectueux des ainés, à bien vouloir démissionner de ton
> poste, et ne plus te présenter, car tu n'en es pas digne.
>
> Présenté une bouteille de bière déjà ouverte et entamée, à un ainé ne
> relève d'aucune culture, mais de la moquerie, surtout avec la phrase qui
> l'a accompagnée : " si tu n'as pas les moyens de te l'offrir, voici une
> bière pour toi tout seul"  tu es venu volontairement nargué Prof devant
> nous.
>
> Je connais le code de conduite pas besoin qu'on me le rappelle et je suis
> prêt à assumer les conséquences.
>
> C'est facile de dire que je ne le fais pas en temps que membre du board,
> on s'en fou, si tu aime faire des choses en ton nom personnel, pardon
> démissiones  et ne te représente plus. Et tu auras la latitude de faire ce
> que tu veux en ton nom personnel. Mais tant que tu es membre du board tu as
> droit à de la retenue, cela n'a pas besoin d'être écrit quelque part, ça
> relève du bon sens et de la bonne éducation. Chez nous, en Afrique on
> respect les ainés qui se respectent.
>
> Arnaud
>
> English version
>
> No Mr. Alston it did not happen like that. There were many of us sitting
> in a circle in the bar's interior lounge, and you on the outside terrace,
> and in the dark you were able to identify Prof Nii's position to carry out
> your action. It's said "A mouse, even drunk, never forgets the crossroads
> of the cat." If you respected Prof, you would never have done this, even
> drunk. This is not the first time you have this kind of behavior, and then
> you apologies, too much is too much, it's time for the Board to take his
> responsibility and get rid of you,  because you are harmful to them And to
> the community. Therefore I invite you personally as a member of the
> community, respectful of elders, to resign, and not run again for board
> position, because you are not worthy. I'm sorry to be rough, but you
> deserve it.
>
> Presented a bottle of beer already opened and started, to an elder, does
> not belong to any culture, but mockery, especially with the sentence that
> accompanied it: "if you cannot afford, Here's a beer for you only" you came
> willingly taunted Prof in front of  us. Hummm!
>
> I know the code of conduct no need to be reminded of it and I am willing
> to bear the consequences.
>
> It's easy to say that I do not do it as a member of the board, we do not
> care, if you like  doing things in your capacity, pardon resign  and no
> longer represent yourself. And you will have the latitude to do what you
> want in your own capacity. But as long as you are a member of the board you
> should have some decorum, it does not need to be written somewhere, it is
> common sense and good education.
>
> Arnaud
>
>
> 2017-05-29 10:30 GMT+00:00 Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
> :
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>>
>>
>> On the night of Saturday the 27th of May, 2017, while having drinks at
>> the bar, after a week of intense pressure related to concerns about the
>> event, and under the influence of a few beers, as a cultural gesture of
>> reconciliation, I delivered a drink to Dr. Quaynor.  This is customary and
>> is done as a show of reconciliation.
>>
>>
>>
>> However, when delivering that drink, it seems that I made a mistake with
>> the words that I used and offense was taken.  This was not intended and for
>> the offense caused, I offer an unreserved apology.  I also need to
>> reiterate that anything said was in no way in my capacity as a board
>> member, and was done on a personal basis.
>>
>>
>>
>> Again, if I have caused offense, I apologize and it was unintended.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yours Sincerely
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew Alston
>>
>>
>>
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