[Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment- bylaws changes

L.A. Ym landriam at ymail.com
Mon Sep 19 13:34:22 UTC 2016

Agree with Boubakar 


From: Boubakar Barry 
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 12:44 AM
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Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment- bylaws changes

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 9:05 PM, Jackson Muthili <jacksonmuthi at gmail.com> wrote:

  On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Douglas Onyango <ondouglas at gmail.com> wrote:
  > Hi Alan,
  > Thanks for sharing this document. It will form a solid basis for continued
  > deliberation on amendments of the bylaws.
  > Regarding #1, specifically the Associate Members' right to (or not) vote, I
  > was, and still I am opposed to the idea of rescinding the Associate Members
  > rights to vote.
  > Rationale: when an Associate Member is stripped of  the right to vote,
  > he/she is in reality as empowered -- or un-empowered -- as the rest of the
  > AFRINIC community. AFRINIC would effectively be asking Associate members and
  > prospects to fork out Associate Membership fees, but offering nothing over
  > and above "AFRINIC community" status, which poses at least two problems:
  > First, NO ONE of sound mind, with full understanding of these facts, would
  > want to be an Associate members, and  secondly, AFRINIC would be out-rightly
  > fleecing its members by charging membership fees and providing no value in
  > return, neither one of which is desirable.
  > Therefore, the Associate Membership category should be imbued with voting
  > rights -- or some other value add that is codified in the bylaws, barring
  > which the category should effectively be expunged from the bylaws.


  If any tier is named "member", such as "associate member"; such tier
  MUST be given voting rights. Absent of this - it would be a useless
  membership status. Why be a member of an establishment that cannot let
  one exercise a simple right like a vote to enable effect change?

  Let associate members vote or get rid of this membership tier. Simple.

Not sure it's as simple as that.

Do we want to encourage people/organisations to be be associate members just because of granted voting rights that have the potential of affecting resource members only?

I know of organisations in which members are happy to be non-voting associate members because it gives them opportunities to contribute financially to the sustainability of these organisations, without benefiting from core services. Just because they share values of these organisations and want to support them.

We can of course think of advantages we can give to associate members  to acknowledge their commitment and support. But I would not support giving voting rights to associate members. I would rather be for removing this membership category instead.


  > Regards,
  > On 16 September 2016 at 17:17, Alan Barrett <alan.barrett at afrinic.net>
  > wrote:
  >> On 10 June, I posted a document describing potential areas for improvement
  >> in the Bylaws as a result of an accountability assessment.  I invited the
  >> community and membership to comment on these issues.
  >> I have considered the discussion, and I have asked the legal adviser to
  >> draft appropriate changes to the bylaws.  In some cases, I have edited the
  >> legal adviser’s text.  In some cases, more drafting work is needed and
  >> proposed text of bylaws changes is not yet available.
  >> I attach a document with the proposed bylaws changes.
  >> Alan Barrett
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