[Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - quorum

[Andrew Alston]

+1 Mark,

I would have thought this was pretty plain – it’s a global practice in business and I’d be surprised if people who have stood on boards and other such things hadn’t seen this fairly often, its enshrined in every company act I’ve ever read.

It’s the same way with shareholder meetings – a shareholder may give a proxy to someone.

A member may issue a proxy and that person then 100% represents the person who gave it to them. 

Andrew



On 28/09/2016, 20:08, "Mark Elkins" <mje at posix.co.za> wrote:

    
    
    On 28/09/2016 15:20, Badru Ntege wrote:
    > Ultimately percentage of members is the logical and sustainble way to
    > achieve a representative outcome.  However this opens another
    > question when it comes to “representative” and actual votes.
    > 
    > We need to explore a way that also addresses actively engaged member
    > views.  The current system is open to some kind of abuse where
    > through the use of proxies,  votes are cast on behalf of members who
    > might not even have a clue about what the vote is all about.
    
    If I give my Proxy to someone - then I am implicitly trusting that
    person - including their judgement/discretion on things I might not be
    100% sure about. If I give them instructions and they fail to follow
    them, my issue is with them, no one else.
    
    Often, proxies will actually state how the "owner" wishes to vote on
    certain (pre-defined) topics - i.e. - accept the current auditors for
    another year.
    
    If you don't trust a person to use your proxy wisely - don't give it to
    them. I really don't see the problem.
    
    > We have all noticed this in previous elections so I think we need to
    > start putting our minds round how to find a solution.
    > 
    > Regards
    > 
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    > 
    > On 9/28/16, 8:55 AM, "Dewole Ajao" <dewole at tinitop.com> wrote:
    > 
    >> Is hard-wiring the numbers really a good idea as opposed to a
    >> percentage (of something or the other)?
    >> 
    >> Just thinking of a way to fix the quorum even if active membership
    >> were to double in a year or two.
    >> 
    >> Dewole.
    >> 
    >> 
    >> On 28/09/2016 07:58, Alan Barrett wrote:
    >>>> On 26 Sep 2016, at 22:00, Alan Barrett
    >>>> <alan.barrett at afrinic.net> wrote:
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>>> On 26 Sep 2016, at 18:22, Douglas Onyango
    >>>>> <ondouglas at gmail.com> wrote:
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> Hi Alan,
    >>>>>> The current quorum requirement is 10 members, which is too
    >>>>>> small, but I think 10% is too large.
    >>>>> Perhaps AFRINIC can share with us statistics on member
    >>>>> attendance in the past 5 years. We can normalize this data
    >>>>> and can use something like the lowest or average number of
    >>>>> members present to prescribe a pragmatic number for our
    >>>>> quorum requirement.
    >>>> Sure, I can get those numbers.
    >>> Here are the number of votes cast during recent Board elections.
    >>> The number of on-site votes gives a good idea of the number of
    >>> members who attended the meetings.
    >>> 
    >>> 2013	2014	2015	2016 E-Votes	        58	59	49	183 On-Site Votes	45
    >>> 66	77	62 TOTAL      	103	125	126	245
    >>> 
    >>> Given these attendance figures, I suggest a quorum requirement of
    >>> 30 resource members in the future.
    >>> 
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