[Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes

ALAIN AINA Alain.Aina at wacren.net
Mon Sep 19 19:56:20 UTC 2016


Hi,

Let’s fix the process and better organise this critical review of the bylawsl. I do support the idea of a committee .

—Alain


> On Sep 19, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Bope Domilongo Christian <christianbope at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Dear CEO,
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> [speaking as a member of the community]
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> Following last week discussion on the accountability review and others points raised by the community which was not in your original document, here my response.
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> 1.  On the Accountability Review.
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> This review is from an independent AFRINIC's accountability review which identified areas need to be improved. Improving RIR accountability is very important in this context of IANA stewardship transition where the community will be exercising important role in the oversight of the IANA functions.
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> So it is very crucial that the community gives this discussion the required attention and the consensual approach is more needed.
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> It will be unfortunate if we did not follow these important improvements due to lack of consensus.
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> 2. on the Process
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> It was expected that the community discuss, express view and concern thereafter the Leadership will do his best effort to build consensus. Consensus here is strictly in the sense of RIR practices mean The Rough Consensus Model [1].
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> Ideally, people shall be encourage to comment on the list for the sake of archive and off list contribution should be discouraged and not accepted.
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> That why some members of the community suggested the creation of a committee to lead the process.
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> 3. On the discussion.
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> Community has expressed views on each points. As expected there were convergences and divergences. For example, points 3,4, 5 had active and intensive discussions while reading may sound like profound disagreement. We shall now entire to the consensus building mode by opening the disagreement views and addressing one by one then we'll build ROUGH CONSENSUS.
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> Another example, on point 11, there was no objection, but some suggestions even propose more such as "Registered Members only MUST never amend the bylaws, ..." and The proposed amendment should be published not less than 60 days and not more than 90 days before, with the provisions for more members to comment online and in any meeting held during the consultation period" 
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> 4. On the other points.
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> Beyond the 12 points, some areas of improvements were suggested.
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> For example, https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2016-June/000350.html <https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2016-June/000350.html> lists some of the points
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> [1] https://www.nro.net/about-the-nro/rir-accountability <https://www.nro.net/about-the-nro/rir-accountability> on section 1.4
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> Regards,
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> Bope
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> On 19 September 2016 at 17:03, Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com <mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>> wrote:
> I agree with the sentiments as echoed by Boubakar below.
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> Thanks
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> Andrew
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> From: Mike Silber <silber.mike at gmail.com <mailto:silber.mike at gmail.com>>
> Reply-To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net <mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>>
> Date: Monday, 19 September 2016 at 10:39
> To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net <mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>>
> Cc: "members-discuss at afrinic.net <mailto:members-discuss at afrinic.net>" <members-discuss at afrinic.net <mailto:members-discuss at afrinic.net>>
> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Accountability assessment - bylaws changes
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> On 18 Sep 2016, at 23:44, Boubakar Barry <Boubakar.Barry at wacren.net <mailto:Boubakar.Barry at wacren.net>> wrote:
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> We can of course think of advantages we can give to associate members  to acknowledge their commitment and support. But I would not support giving voting rights to associate members. I would rather be for removing this membership category instead.
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> Boubakar +1
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