[Community-Discuss] Resolution 201604.274 about Set-Up fees

Jackson Muthili jacksonmuthi at gmail.com
Mon Jul 18 06:55:03 UTC 2016


On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 11:52 PM, Marcus K. G. Adomey
<madomey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Jackson,
>
> If you have nothing consistent to say PLEASE, shut up.

Marcus let us please learn to respect and tolerate each others views
much as they may differ. Asking someone to shut up just because their
ideas and yours don't align is, in my mind, petty and naïve.

> Marcus
>
>
>> From: jacksonmuthi at gmail.com
>> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 19:47:50 +0300
>> To: community-discuss at afrinic.net
>> CC: members-discuss at afrinic.net
>> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Resolution 201604.274 about Set-Up fees
>>
>> I don't think anyone can restrict anyone on what to say or not say on
>> a public mailing list that does not make distinction between official
>> list members and observers.
>>
>> AfriNIC meetings too are open to anyone and whoever attends is free to
>> comment about any observations on appropriate platform. It is
>> completely unreasonable to expect a person from another RIR community
>> to not talk freely and be called an outsider.
>>
>> Stick to issues.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Owen
>> >
>> > On 7/15/16, 6:47 AM, "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > I’m done adding noise to the list and feeding the trolls. I have tried
>> > my
>> > best to work for a peaceful resolution, but it seems clear to me now
>> > that
>> > you do not seek information, but rather seek to foment discontent and I
>> > have
>> > no desire to participate in that exercise.
>> >
>> >
>> > If you mean the above it might be the most helpful act you have done for
>> > the
>> > community. There are issues the community needs to resolve and this is
>> > best
>> > done by themselves. With all due respect the community sees you as on
>> > outsider and as wrong as this might be in RIR eco system that’s just it.
>> > (before anyone reads anything out of this statement it means from
>> > another
>> > RIR)
>> >
>> > What might seem factual to you will be seem as a statement pursuing an
>> > agenda. Just like every time I post something it is seem as an attack on
>> > the establishment, your posts are also seen as a defense on the
>> > establishment. I’m sure most of the time it's not your intent but
>> > perceptions and paradigms are hard to change at times.
>> >
>> > Of recent I also think you crossed the line in some of your statements.
>> > By
>> > that in our culture you are a guest and there’s a line that one has to
>> > be
>> > cautious not to cross as a guest.
>> >
>> > You have been a long time friend of the community and I urge you
>> > continue
>> > the friendship when it comes to the technical value you bring.
>> >
>> > As tempting as it might be when you add your opinion to a topic under
>> > discussion it seems to spin out of control and I’m sure many silently
>> > agree
>> > with Marcus’s email.
>> >
>> > To those who might be tempted to spin this email into anything else I
>> > ask
>> > you do not.
>> >
>> > We need to move forward and build our community. We will never agree
>> > with
>> > everyone and that is why we seek consensus or go for the vote but we
>> > have no
>> > choice but to co-exist.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Badru
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Owen
>> >
>> >
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