[Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Governance

Tue Sep 22 07:17:56 UTC 2015

On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 6:35 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> So just give us a date before we get too personal about it.  In any case,
> deadlines are global good practice -  even if you miss them, you will have
> moved closer towards achieving them.
>

Well said Walu....well said!

Regards

>
> walu.
>
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> *From:* Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>
> *To:* Noah <noah at neo.co.tz>
> *Cc:* General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>; "
> members-discuss at afrinic.net" <members-discuss at afrinic.net>; Sunday
> Folayan <sunday.folayan at afrinic.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:20 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] [Community-Discuss] Governance
>
>  Owen
>
> Please go back and read all the archives of my tenure then substantiate
> your empty comments.
>
> Owen I value your v6 knowledge but of late your posts definately show a
> deficiency of organisational knowledge.
>
> It's not a necessity that you have to comment if you have nothing
> constructive to add its acceptable for you to be silent.  It amazing the
> way you come to our african community and belittle expectations you would
> not accept in your home community Arin.
>
> Your attack on me Shows the limited depth you might have beyond routing I
> might be wrong here but that's the displayed perception.
>
> As I suggested please read the archives.  The whole governance issue comes
> from the last meeting and the emails on commitments are also online.
>
> To request definite timelines does not deserve your unsolicited attack.
>
> I think this community has had enough of your condescending comments.  I'm
> sure many silent voices will share the same view.
>
> I for one respect your IP knowledge but you have no ground to try and
> lecture me on building or running organisations.
>
> So stop trying to derail us. We have a community to support and build and
> we will not take your nonsense anymore.
>
> Afrinic is a strong organisation built by the community belonging to the
> community. We might have differences in approach but we definately do not
> need your un educated poison in the mix.
>
> I ask you maintain your input in our community on a purely constructive
> and additive tone.
>
> Respectfully
>
> Badru
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> Badru Ntege
> CEO
> NFT Consult Ltd
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> “Vision without execution is hallucination.”
> ― Thomas A. Edison
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> On 22 Sep 2015, at 1:34 am, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
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> I meant....
> [ PS: In fact I would like to suggest for Badru to fall back from
> exercising his rights as a community member since his subjective opinions
> are being looked upon with a biased point of view which fundamentally
> doesn't help the entire community....]
>
> Noah
>
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 12:27 am Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
>
> Owen? Please dont drag us into the Badru past and present actions as they
> are irrelevant to progress....
> What is so difficult in giving the community an indicative timeline? Yes
> we know we are all used to the whole T.I.A thing but we can't expect to see
> changes if we continue behaving this way.....
> It's as simple as [ dear community, expect us to get back to you within a
> month or so ]....
> We can't be reminding folk of their responsibilities whether it's Badru
> requesting for an update or a different member of the community...
> PS: In fact I would to suggest for Badru to fall back from his exercising
> his rights as a community member since his subjective opinions are being
> looked upon with a biased point of view which fundamentally does help the
> entire community....
> Noah
> On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 8:57 pm Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>
> While I do agree that some milestones and target dates for this process
> should soon be forthcoming
> from the board, I will point out that Badru’s is the first request for
> them.
> I want to give Mr. Ntege the benefit of the doubt and presume that he only
> seeks to improve AfriNIC,
> but it is difficult under the circumstances when you consider that the
> very behavior he now criticizes
> was his own behavior while he was chair. Two of the three years that this
> process has dragged on
> so far were under his leadership as chairman of the board. I am glad to
> see that he is now interested
> in moving forward with greater board accountability, but I wish he had
> been such a staunch activist
> while he was still a member of that august body.
> Now is a time of many leadership changes in AfriNIC. I have a high degree
> of confidence in the
> new leadership, but they have inherited an overwhelming amount of action
> items. This is not to
> make excuses, so much as to say let’s allow them to do their jobs.
> If another month goes by and we have not seen some steps and target dates
> from the board
> based on the output of the committee assigned to this task, then perhaps
> there is reason for
> concern. However, expecting a complete response to such a large ask within
> a week of making
> the original request is not reasonable in my opinion.
> I do not believe it is in Sunday’s nature to drag his feet on action
> requested by the community,
> nor do I think he is resistant to transparency or to the governance
> committee.
> Owen
> > On Sep 21, 2015, at 01:47 , Saul <saul at enetworks.co.za> wrote:
> >
> > I must say that I do agree with Badru on this one.
> >
> > Even if the timeframe is 6 months or a year, but to say that we are
> > working on something with no due reporting date is a ticket for disaster.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Badru Ntege [mailto:badru.ntege at nftconsult.com]
> > Sent: 21 September 2015 09:54 AM
> > To: Sunday Folayan <sunday.folayan at afrinic.net>; Badru Ntege
> > <ntegeb at gmail.com>
> > Cc: community-discuss at afrinic.net; members-discuss at afrinic.net
> > Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Governance
> >
> > Thank you chair
> >
> > Sorry for the delay in response.
> >
> >
> > I just thought it would be better to give members delivery times.  I
> still
> > see no delivery time which means that we could be discussing governance
> in
> > 2 years time.
> >
> > The same issue goes inline with performance which is an issue that is
> > hoped to be covered under governance.
> >
> > You cannot improve what you cannot measure.  So I really ask that we
> start
> > giving actual deliverables.
> >
> > Regards¹
> >
> >
> >
> >
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