[Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] AFRINIC Update 23rd November 2015

Mon Nov 23 22:45:43 UTC 2015

And may we as a community hence forth have a constructive
discourse.......[1]

Noah

[1] No more mediocrity for it doesn't benefit neither the board nor the
entire community.
On 24 Nov 2015 01:25, "Sunday Folayan" <sunday.folayan at afrinic.net> wrote:

> Dear Badru,
>
> AFRINIC History is not hidden and should not be craftily re-written in
> emails such as these.
>
> You were elected to the Board in May 2012 during AFRINIC-16 at Banjul.
> http://afrinic.net/en/library/news/735-afrinic-elects-new-board-members
>
> You were elected Chair of the Board in August 2012.
> http://afrinic.net/en/library/news/307-main-news-page
>
> The Board met f2f under your watch at AFRINIC-17 in November 2012 in
> Khartoum, Sudan. You did not inherit any budget.
> https://www.afrinic.net/images/doc/board_resolutions_2013.pdf
>
> The AGMM in Lusaka was during AFRINIC-18 in June 2013. You had chaired
> the Board for a whole year.
> https://www.afrinic.net/images/images/agmm_nom_210613_2.pdf  The second
> to the last paragraph on page 3 should remind you.
>
> The AGMM in Djibouti at AfriNIC-20 in June 2014 was your second year
> running as Chair.
>
> You handed over to me during AfriNIC-21 at Mauritius in November 2014.
>
> You left the Board in June 2015 at AfriNIC-22 in Tunis, less that 6
> months ago, after being Chair for over Two years and three months.
>
> I have now Chaired the Board for exactly one Year.
>
> I still accept responsibility for your diagnosis of the pathetic level
> of mediocrity in the current Board, the above is just to set the records
> straight.
>
> Cheers.
>
> SF.
>
> On 23/11/2015 21:08, Badru Ntege wrote:
> > Saul
> >
> > You obviously have a limited understanding of the history. Lusaka was my
> first board and the results being reported were for a budget I inherited.
> For decisions made by a previous board with the best of intentions.
> >
> > If you read clearly my emails which I'm sure you have not you will see
> that half if not the majority of your email with all due respect is
> baseless.
> >
> > I will thus not continue on personalisation since I do not recall any
> personalisation.  Please go back and read all the emails very slowly. I
> have utmost respect for the individuals but does not mean you cannot point
> out what is wrong.
> >
> > Your email is exactly the problem. Afrinic does not belong to any of us
> we will come and go and others will continue but when you think you cannot
> separate individual from the roles they do then we end up accepting
> everything for fear of hurting people's feelings.
> >
> > Just take your time and read all the emails please the comment.
> >
> > Badru Ntege
> > CEO
> > NFT Consult Ltd
> > Www.Nftconsult.com
> >
> > “Vision without execution is hallucination.”
> > ― Thomas A. Edison
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 23 Nov 2015, at 10:35 pm, Saul <saul at enetworks.co.za> wrote:
> >>
> >> Badru, I can no longer refrain from commenting at your constant
> berating,
> >> non-constructive posts, waste of bandwidth, time and being critical of
> the
> >> board, community and its processes - something that you were in charge
> of
> >> until just short of a year ago and then still on the board until the
> last
> >> elections (6 months ago)- so this is something that you are very
> >> responsible for.
> >>
> >> You are constantly making accusations against members of the board in
> this
> >> public forum and with non-public knowledge and then plead NDA when asked
> >> for fact to backup your allegations.
> >>
> >> You are now alluding to your prowess at running a multi million dollar
> >> company, I refer you back to the Lusaka AGMM where AFRINIC, under your
> >> leadership ran at a loss and the financials were late. When questioned
> >> about what you were going to do to rectify the issue, the response was,
> we
> >> don't need to do anything different. Funny thing those financials have
> >> always been a sticky point recently...
> >>
> >> maybe where there is smoke there is fire, so let's stop this non-sense,
> >> we're IT people, like logs, facts don't lie, so lets get these current,
> >> correctly  audited financials and see what status AFRINIC has been left
> >> in.
> >>
> >> I am not interested in a slinging match, so lets keep the mails on this
> >> list factual and constructive
> >>
> >> Saul
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Badru Ntege [mailto:badru.ntege at nftconsult.com]
> >> Sent: 23 November 2015 05:01 PM
> >> To: Randy Bush <randy at psg.com>
> >> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>;
> >> AfriNIC Discuss <members-discuss at afrinic.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] AFRINIC Update 23rd
> >> November 2015
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Randy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/23/15, 5:17 PM, "Randy Bush" <randy at psg.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> :-) its because the packets are moving fantastically well, need to
> >>>> get the layer 9 to the same level.
> >>> never happen.  layer nine involves all us overevolved funny monkeys.
> >>>
> >>> but, as one of the folk who helped get into the current hole,
> >> Another valid purely subjective view.  One would have to understand all
> >> the dynamics but that would be very difficult in a world of limited
> >> transparency thus your subjective view is based on the pre-edited
> >> information that you have access to.
> >>
> >> So if one really understands the causes as opposed to gueses based on a
> >> particular agenda we could be having additive discussions.  My emails
> try
> >> to be additive but if you look at the responses from the executive they
> >> never dissapoint at dragging the dialogue down. They have earned a
> record
> >> for consistency.
> >>
> >>> i am
> >>> always interested in your constructive suggestions on how to get out.
> >> Thank you. Just like many others I have a vested interest in the good of
> >> the community and will try my best.
> >>
> >>> i am not sure niggling about micro-timing of reports is attacking the
> >>> roots of the problem.
> >> On the contrary it is the root of the problem. It all starts from the
> lack
> >> of order and dedication.  We leave in a world of last minute delivery.
> (on
> >> this one trust me I know.)  So we are ticking boxes without focusing on
> >> the core.
> >>
> >>> otoh, i do look forward to a thorough audit, governance committee,
> >>> etc.
> >> We all do.  I hope your patience has the resilience needed for the
> current
> >> modus operandus.
> >>
> >>> i am patient and i trust the current
> >>> executive.
> >>>
> >>> randy
> >>
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