<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Dear all, <div><br></div><div>The mailing list (<a href="mailto:Aispc@afrinic.net">AISpc@afrinic.net</a>) has been created to ease our communication. You have all been subscribed to it.</div><div><br></div><div>Many thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>George</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div apple-content-edited="true">
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<br><div><div>On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:53 PM, Adiel Akplogan <<a href="mailto:adiel@afrinic.net">adiel@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Hello Geert and all,<br><br>First of, a mailing will be up by tomorrow for this discussion going <br>forward.<br><br>Second, I would like to say that we in this group will have an <br>important responsibility to come up with a program and content for <br>this event that will be balanced enough to bring everyone together.<br><br>On 2013-02-05, at 17:36 PM, Geert Jan de Groot <<a href="mailto:geertj@nsrc.org">geertj@nsrc.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 16:08:20 +0400 George Nyabuga wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Overall Theme<br>Connection Matters: Making the Internet work for African development<br></blockquote><br>AfNOG has been set up as a technical meeting, for engineers, to exchange<br>ideas on technical and operational challenges in Africa, to share<br>ideas and experiences on a technical level.<br>Even the AfriNIC meeting is at least partially aimed at the technical<br>side of running a network.<br><br>Your suggestion aims at a whole different audience, and people who<br>are not technically involved at all.<br></blockquote><br>Can you please elaborate a bit on why you think that the theme aims <br>only at people who are not technically involved at all? <br><br>Do we have to continue to dissociate development from technical issues? <br>I personally think that both are tightly linked and we should try <br>working hard to restore that link in our region. Quiet frankly that is <br>one of the objective of the Internet Summit: Bridging the damaging <br>gap between the technical community and the rest of the world so that <br>we effectively achieve our goal. We have been doing all kind technical <br>training and capacity building in Africa for the past decades … but <br>how much of it is really helping people improve their day to day life? <br>How much is it helping Operators to sustainably grow and become self <br>resilient? What is the socio-economic impact of these trainings? <br>Because Being a super good Engineer alone does not take us far in the <br>current status of affair in the region.<br><br><blockquote type="cite">This is a very poor match for<br>the audience we have catered for, and this will work poorly with<br>our historic audience. <br></blockquote><br>I tend to disagree here Geert, but I'm happy to hear more from you <br>on this. Also if you have other suggestions as a them that can bring <br>everybody together I think it good to put it on the table for <br>discussion/agreement.<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Also, there is none synergy at all with the technical hands-on workshops,<br>tutorials or special-interest group meets like AfREN.<br></blockquote><br>I guess this will be created as we move in the details of the program.<br><br>The whole Idea is to keep everyone currently involved in, but bring in <br>people with a wider dimension that can help us shape the outcome in a <br>more constructive and forward looking manner. <br><br><blockquote type="cite">You send engineers to the former; your proposed programme is intended for<br>politicans, different groups. <br></blockquote><br>I see your point above and I believe that this is what we have to do <br>in this group, put together a program that is coherent and make sense <br>across the board. I believe that what George has sent was ideas that we <br>should work on and contribute to. We are six months from the event and <br>this can not be in any way the final program of the event and we have <br>not yet gone through the call for presentation and all.<br><br><blockquote type="cite">I want to hear what others think but personally I hate to see<br>the technical side go,<br></blockquote><br>Be reinsured, It is not meant to go! in fact it need to be strengthen <br>but not only through Engineering stuff only. … Geeky stuff are <br>good and exciting but we need help our Geek and engineers to confront <br>their knowledge to the reality of the world we leave in, to use it<br>to solve real life problem, to innovate and create value …<br><br><blockquote type="cite">and think there is no synergy between your <br>proposed AIS programme and the existing AfNOG community. <br></blockquote><br>There should be.<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Also, do you think your programme caters the needs of, for instance,<br>the AfREN group? And, how is this going to work with the policy development<br>discussions AfRINIC needs to define their policies?<br></blockquote><br>We all need to work together toward the inclusion of all of this.<br><br>Thanks.<br><br>- a.<br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>