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<p>If it is an IPv6 flow, it does not use the CLAT function in the
handset. It might use a NAT64 function at the provider edge.</p>
<p>If it is an IPv4 flow, the handset translates from IPv4 to IPv6
(the CLAT function). My guess - and it's only speculation - is
that the handset takes a few milliseconds to do this for each
packet. The flow might also use a NAT64 function at the provider
edge.<br>
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<p>If it was an IPv4-only network or dual-stack network, there's no
CLAT, only NAT at the provider edge.</p>
<p>I'm not sure I'm right, but if I'm wrong, I want to be clear
about what I'm wrong about.</p>
<p>Lee<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/11/19 1:23 PM, JORDI PALET
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lang="EN-US">If it is an IPv6 flow, will not go thru the
CLAT. If it is an IPv4 flow, then it will be the same than
an IPv4 flow without a CLAT, but with NAT. Anything
different it is a bad implementation probably …<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Lee Howard
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lee.howard@retevia.net"><lee.howard@retevia.net></a><br>
<b>Responder a: </b>IPv6 in Africa Discussions
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:afripv6-discuss@afrinic.net"><afripv6-discuss@afrinic.net></a><br>
<b>Fecha: </b>lunes, 11 de marzo de 2019, 15:38<br>
<b>Para: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:afripv6-discuss@afrinic.net"><afripv6-discuss@afrinic.net></a><br>
<b>Asunto: </b>Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] AfrIPv6-Discuss
Digest, Vol 149, Issue 1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">On 3/10/19
3:24 PM, Sanoussi Baahe Dadde wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">So what is
the advantage of using IPv6 in term of speed as compare
with IPv4?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">I recently listed all of the
measurements I could find. <a
href="https://www.retevia.net/fast/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.retevia.net/fast/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">In Africa on average, IPv6 is 24ms
faster than IPv4. That can mean a significant difference in
how long a web page takes to load. The APNIC data set is
pretty small, though, and the performance improvement might
just mean that the "Happy Eyeballs" algorithm only lets IPv6
work when it's faster: <a
href="https://stats.labs.apnic.net/v6perf/XB"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://stats.labs.apnic.net/v6perf/XB</a>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">I don't know how African mobile
providers have deployed IPv6, but I compared some American and
European mobile providers, and there's a correlation between
464xlat and slower IPv4. My guess is that Android handsets are
a little slow when doing CLAT. <a
href="https://twitter.com/WLeeCoyote/status/1102906933739249664"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://twitter.com/WLeeCoyote/status/1102906933739249664</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:35.4pt">Lee<o:p></o:p></p>
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Greetings from Nigeria,<br>
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The survey is a good Initiative from AFRINIC, the
outcome of the survey and<br>
the training programme will go a long way to improve
Internet development<br>
in Africa.<br>
<br>
Warm regards,<br>
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Idowu.<br>
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On 19 Feb 2019 13:00, <<a
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> From: APH <<a
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> Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] AFRINIC Internet
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> Survey<br>
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> Dear Amreesh,<br>
><br>
> Our NREN full the survey? of Internet Mesurement. (
NREN Malagasy in<br>
> Madagascar )<br>
><br>
> I think that other participates<br>
><br>
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> Le 2019-02-04 ? 10:17, Nico Schottelius a ?crit?:<br>
> > Good morning Amreesh,<br>
> ><br>
> > greetings from Europe. I was wondering whether
you will publish the<br>
> > results of the survey afterwards?<br>
> ><br>
> > We are running an IPv6 first data center in
Switzerland and we are<br>
> > conducting similar surveys on Twitter
(@ungleich) at the moment to get a<br>
> > better impression on how to grow the IPv6
adoption.<br>
> ><br>
> > Best regards,<br>
> ><br>
> > Nico<br>
> ><br>
> > Amreesh Phokeer <<a
href="mailto:amreesh@afrinic.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">amreesh@afrinic.net</a>>
writes:<br>
> ><br>
> >> {Apologies for cross-posting}<br>
> >><br>
> >> Dear colleagues,<br>
> >><br>
> >> AFRINIC has launched a survey with the aim
of assessing the current<br>
status of Internet measurement in Africa.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Your responses will help AFRINIC
understand the available measurement<br>
infrastructure on the continent as well as the gap in
the infrastructure<br>
and the relevant skills that need to be filled. AFRINIC
will use the<br>
responses as guide in building Internet measurement
programmes to train<br>
network operators, regulators, end users, and other
stakeholders in the<br>
forthcoming summits, conferences, and *nog meetings
across the continent.<br>
> >><br>
> >> We invite you to take the survey
available in both English (<br>
<a
href="https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/survey/index/sid/634362/newtest/Y/lang/en"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/survey/index/sid/634362/newtest/Y/lang/en</a>)<br>
and French (<br>
<a
href="https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/survey/index/sid/634362/newtest/Y/lang/fr"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/survey/index/sid/634362/newtest/Y/lang/fr</a><br>
).<br>
> >><br>
> >> The deadline for filling the survey is 28
February 2018.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Please read more on the benefits and the
reasons behind the need for<br>
assessing the current status of Internet measurement in
Africa from our<br>
blog here.<br>
<a
href="https://www.afrinic.net/blog/421-africa-internet-measurement-awareness-survey"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.afrinic.net/blog/421-africa-internet-measurement-awareness-survey</a><br>
> >><br>
> >> ????????????????.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Chers coll?gues,<br>
> >><br>
> >> AFRINIC a lanc? un sondage dans le but
d'?valuer l'?tat actuel de la<br>
m?trologie des r?seaux en Afrique. Vos r?ponses aideront
AFRINIC ?<br>
comprendre l'infrastructure de la m?trologie disponible
sur le continent,<br>
ainsi que les lacunes dans l?infrastructure et les
lacunes au niveau des<br>
comp?tences.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Les r?sultats de ce sondage servira ?
?laborer des programmes de<br>
m?trologie des r?seaux destin?s ? former les op?rateurs
de r?seau, les<br>
r?gulateurs, les utilisateurs finaux et d'autres
partenaires lors des<br>
prochains sommets, conf?rences et r?unions ? travers le
continent.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Nous vous invitons ? r?pondre au sondage
qui est disponible en anglais<br>
(<br>
<a
href="https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/survey/index/sid/634362/newtest/Y/lang/en"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/survey/index/sid/634362/newtest/Y/lang/en</a>)<br>
et en fran?ais (https: // survey .<a
href="http://afrinic.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">afrinic.net</a> / index.php /
survey / index<br>
/ sid / 634362 / newtest / Y / lang / fr).<br>
> >><br>
> >> La date limite pour remplir le
questionnaire est 28 f?vrier 2018.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Consultez notre blog ici pour en savoir
plus sur les avantages et les<br>
raisons de la n?cessit? d'?valuer l'?tat actuel de la
m?trologie des<br>
r?seaux en Afrique.<br>
<a
href="https://www.afrinic.net/blog/421-africa-internet-measurement-awareness-survey"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.afrinic.net/blog/421-africa-internet-measurement-awareness-survey</a><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >>
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> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > Your Swiss, Open Source and IPv6 Virtual
Machine. Now on<br>
<a href="http://www.datacenterlight.ch" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">www.datacenterlight.ch</a>.<br>
> ><br>
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