[AfrIPv6-Discuss] AfrIPv6-Discuss Digest, Vol 149, Issue 5

Lee Howard lee.howard at retevia.net
Tue Mar 12 10:49:21 UTC 2019


If some big stakeholders decided to go IPv6-only, what would happen to 
smaller organizations? Would they be able to change fast enough to stay 
in business?

Lee

On 3/12/19 5:01 AM, Big Jayz wrote:
>
> Looking at consolidation of the Internet, I guess if the big 
> stakeholders out there decides to strictly go with Ipv6, others will 
> follow.
>
> On Mar 11, 2019 21:26, "Sanoussi Baahe Dadde" <daddechamak at gmail.com 
> <mailto:daddechamak at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>     In the past, people were using Windows XP but not any more, so the
>     same thing can happen with IPv4, I think.
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>     On Mon, Mar 11, 2019, 18:20 <afripv6-discuss-request at afrinic.net
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>         Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 18:19:53 +0100 (CET)
>         From: Willy KONGA <willy.konga at aninf.ga
>         <mailto:willy.konga at aninf.ga>>
>         To: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net
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>         Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] AfrIPv6-Discuss Digest, Vol
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>         Hi,
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>
>         Well, because for many companies, IPv4 works well and they do
>         not see the interest of migrating to IPv6. It should also be
>         noted that for many other companies, migrating to IPv6
>         requires them to deploy new client terminals supporting this
>         protocol. What is at the present time a burden too heavy.
>
>
>         Best
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>         ----- Original Message -----
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>         From: "Sanoussi Baahe Dadde" <daddechamak at gmail.com
>         <mailto:daddechamak at gmail.com>>
>         To: afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net
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>         Sent: Monday, 11 March, 2019 5:06:29 PM
>         Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] AfrIPv6-Discuss Digest, Vol
>         149, Issue 3
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>         I can see that IPv6 is 24ms faster than IPv4 but why most of
>         African companies or companies based in Africa still use IPv4?
>
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>         On Mon, Mar 11, 2019, 15:31 <
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>         Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 10:30:55 -0400
>         From: Lee Howard < lee.howard at retevia.net
>         <mailto:lee.howard at retevia.net> >
>         To: afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net
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>         Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] AfrIPv6-Discuss Digest, Vol
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>         On 3/10/19 3:24 PM, Sanoussi Baahe Dadde wrote:
>         > So what is the advantage of using IPv6 in term of speed as
>         compare
>         > with IPv4?
>
>         I recently listed all of the measurements I could find.
>         https://www.retevia.net/fast/
>
>         In Africa on average, IPv6 is 24ms faster than IPv4. That can
>         mean a
>         significant difference in how long a web page takes to load.
>         The APNIC
>         data set is pretty small, though, and the performance
>         improvement might
>         just mean that the "Happy Eyeballs" algorithm only lets IPv6
>         work when
>         it's faster: https://stats.labs.apnic.net/v6perf/XB
>         <https://stats.labs.apnic.net/v6perf/XB>
>
>         I don't know how African mobile providers have deployed IPv6,
>         but I
>         compared some American and European mobile providers, and
>         there's a
>         correlation between 464xlat and slower IPv4. My guess is that
>         Android
>         handsets are a little slow when doing CLAT.
>         https://twitter.com/WLeeCoyote/status/1102906933739249664
>         <https://twitter.com/WLeeCoyote/status/1102906933739249664>
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>         Lee
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>         > Message: 1
>         > Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 03:58:38 +0100
>         > From: kolawole Adewale < harnthny at gmail.com
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>         > Greetings from Nigeria,
>         >
>         > The survey is a good Initiative from AFRINIC, the outcome of
>         the
>         > survey and
>         > the training programme will go a long way to improve Internet
>         > development
>         > in Africa.
>         >
>         > Warm regards,
>         >
>         > Idowu.
>         >
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>         > >? ? 1. Re: AFRINIC Internet Measurement Awareness Survey (APH)
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>         > > Message: 1
>         > > Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 17:06:13 +0300
>         > > From: APH < pascal at irenala.edu.mg
>         <mailto:pascal at irenala.edu.mg> <mailto: pascal at irenala.edu.mg
>         <mailto:pascal at irenala.edu.mg> >>
>         > > To: afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net
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>         > > Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] AFRINIC Internet Measurement
>         > Awareness
>         > >? ? ? ? ?Survey
>         > > Message-ID: <
>         7937a509-3fcc-dc29-068e-54856b851c94 at irenala.edu.mg
>         <mailto:7937a509-3fcc-dc29-068e-54856b851c94 at irenala.edu.mg>
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>         <mailto:7937a509-3fcc-dc29-068e-54856b851c94 at irenala.edu.mg> >>
>         > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>         > >
>         > > Dear Amreesh,
>         > >
>         > > Our NREN full the survey? of Internet Mesurement. ( NREN
>         Malagasy in
>         > > Madagascar )
>         > >
>         > > I think that other participates
>         > >
>         > > regard,
>         > >
>         > > --
>         > >
>         > >
>         > > *Pascal* Heriliva ANDRIANISA
>         > > Webmaster i RENALA
>         > > *R*esearch and *E*ducation *N*etwork for *A*cademic and
>         *L*earning
>         > > *A*ctivities - http://www.irenala.edu.mg/
>         > > Porte 201 - Minist?re de l'Enseignement Sup?rieur et de la
>         Recherche
>         > > Scientifique - Fiadanana
>         > > GSM :+261 (0) 32 46 680 29?? |??? +261 (0) 34 30 680 29
>         > >
>         > >
>         > > Le 2019-02-04 ? 10:17, Nico Schottelius a ?crit?:
>         > > > Good morning Amreesh,
>         > > >
>         > > > greetings from Europe. I was wondering whether you will
>         > publish the
>         > > > results of the survey afterwards?
>         > > >
>         > > > We are running an IPv6 first data center in Switzerland
>         and we are
>         > > > conducting similar surveys on Twitter (@ungleich) at the
>         > moment to get a
>         > > > better impression on how to grow the IPv6 adoption.
>         > > >
>         > > > Best regards,
>         > > >
>         > > > Nico
>         > > >
>         > > > Amreesh Phokeer < amreesh at afrinic.net
>         <mailto:amreesh at afrinic.net>
>         > <mailto: amreesh at afrinic.net <mailto:amreesh at afrinic.net> >>
>         writes:
>         > > >
>         > > >> {Apologies for cross-posting}
>         > > >>
>         > > >> Dear colleagues,
>         > > >>
>         > > >> AFRINIC has launched a survey with the aim of assessing
>         the
>         > current
>         > status of Internet measurement in Africa.
>         > > >>
>         > > >> Your responses will help AFRINIC? understand the available
>         > measurement
>         > infrastructure on the continent as well as the gap in the
>         > infrastructure
>         > and the relevant skills that need to be filled. AFRINIC will
>         use the
>         > responses as guide in building Internet measurement
>         programmes to
>         > train
>         > network operators, regulators, end users, and other
>         stakeholders
>         > in the
>         > forthcoming summits, conferences, and *nog meetings across the
>         > continent.
>         > > >>
>         > > >> We invite you to take the survey? available in both
>         English (
>         >
>         https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/survey/index/sid/634362/newtest/Y/lang/en
>         <https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/survey/index/sid/634362/newtest/Y/lang/en>
>         )
>         > and French (
>         >
>         https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/survey/index/sid/634362/newtest/Y/lang/fr
>         <https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/survey/index/sid/634362/newtest/Y/lang/fr>
>
>         > ).
>         > > >>
>         > > >> The deadline for filling the survey is 28 February 2018.
>         > > >>
>         > > >> Please read more on the benefits and the reasons behind
>         the
>         > need for
>         > assessing the current status of Internet measurement in Africa
>         > from our
>         > blog here.
>         >
>         https://www.afrinic.net/blog/421-africa-internet-measurement-awareness-survey
>         <https://www.afrinic.net/blog/421-africa-internet-measurement-awareness-survey>
>
>         > > >>
>         > > >> ????????????????.
>         > > >>
>         > > >> Chers coll?gues,
>         > > >>
>         > > >> AFRINIC a lanc? un sondage dans le but d'?valuer l'?tat
>         > actuel de la
>         > m?trologie des r?seaux en Afrique. Vos r?ponses aideront
>         AFRINIC ?
>         > comprendre l'infrastructure de la m?trologie disponible sur le
>         > continent,
>         > ainsi que les lacunes dans l?infrastructure et les lacunes au
>         > niveau des
>         > comp?tences.
>         > > >>
>         > > >> Les r?sultats de ce sondage servira ? ?laborer des
>         programmes de
>         > m?trologie des r?seaux destin?s ? former les op?rateurs de
>         r?seau, les
>         > r?gulateurs, les utilisateurs finaux et d'autres partenaires
>         lors des
>         > prochains sommets, conf?rences et r?unions ? travers le
>         continent.
>         > > >>
>         > > >> Nous vous invitons ? r?pondre au sondage qui est
>         disponible
>         > en anglais
>         > (
>         >
>         https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/survey/index/sid/634362/newtest/Y/lang/en
>         <https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/survey/index/sid/634362/newtest/Y/lang/en>
>         )
>         > et en fran?ais (https: // survey . afrinic.net
>         <http://afrinic.net> < http://afrinic.net >
>         > / index.php / survey / index
>         > / sid / 634362 / newtest / Y / lang / fr).
>         > > >>
>         > > >> La date limite pour remplir le questionnaire est 28
>         f?vrier 2018.
>         > > >>
>         > > >> Consultez notre blog ici pour en savoir plus sur les
>         > avantages et les
>         > raisons de la n?cessit? d'?valuer l'?tat actuel de la
>         m?trologie des
>         > r?seaux en Afrique.
>         >
>         https://www.afrinic.net/blog/421-africa-internet-measurement-awareness-survey
>         <https://www.afrinic.net/blog/421-africa-internet-measurement-awareness-survey>
>
>         > > >>
>         > > >>
>         > > >>
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