[AfrIPv6-Discuss] AfrIPv6-Discuss Digest, Vol 149, Issue 3

JORDI PALET MARTINEZ jordi.palet at consulintel.es
Mon Mar 11 17:36:03 UTC 2019


Hi Willy,

 

The cost of keeping IPv4 when you will need to buy IPv4 addresses is higher, even if you run dual-stack is also more expensive. The end-user OSs are ready. CPEs can be upgraded. Most of the core equipment has been ready for several years. So unless they have +10 years old (speaking “in general”), should not be a problem.

 

Specially if they try a migration, which is the wrong way (I guess in this case wrong wording). Migrate is remove IPv4 everywhere, this is not the right way. It should be done probably in the access, but not in the LANs, which is transition and coexistence, IPv6-only with IPv4-as-a-Service, or other ways to say it, but definitively not migrate!


Regards,

Jordi

 

 

 

De: Willy KONGA <willy.konga at aninf.ga>
Responder a: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Fecha: lunes, 11 de marzo de 2019, 18:31
Para: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Asunto: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] AfrIPv6-Discuss Digest, Vol 149, Issue 3

 

Hi,

 

Well, because for many companies, IPv4 works well and they do not see the interest of migrating to IPv6. It should also be noted that for many other companies, migrating to IPv6 requires them to deploy new client terminals supporting this protocol. What is at the present time a burden too heavy.

 

Best

From: "Sanoussi Baahe Dadde" <daddechamak at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] AfrIPv6-Discuss Digest, Vol 149, Issue 3

I can see that IPv6 is 24ms faster than IPv4 but why most of  African companies or companies based in Africa still use IPv4?

 

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On 3/10/19 3:24 PM, Sanoussi Baahe Dadde wrote:
> So what is the advantage of using IPv6 in term of speed as compare 
> with IPv4?

I recently listed all of the measurements I could find. 
https://www.retevia.net/fast/

In Africa on average, IPv6 is 24ms faster than IPv4. That can mean a 
significant difference in how long a web page takes to load. The APNIC 
data set is pretty small, though, and the performance improvement might 
just mean that the "Happy Eyeballs" algorithm only lets IPv6 work when 
it's faster: https://stats.labs.apnic.net/v6perf/XB

I don't know how African mobile providers have deployed IPv6, but I 
compared some American and European mobile providers, and there's a 
correlation between 464xlat and slower IPv4. My guess is that Android 
handsets are a little slow when doing CLAT. 
https://twitter.com/WLeeCoyote/status/1102906933739249664


Lee



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>     From: kolawole Adewale <harnthny at gmail.com
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>     Greetings from Nigeria,
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>     The survey is a good Initiative from AFRINIC, the outcome of the
>     survey and
>     the training programme will go a long way to improve Internet
>     development
>     in Africa.
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>     On 19 Feb 2019 13:00, <afripv6-discuss-request at afrinic.net
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>     > From: APH <pascal at irenala.edu.mg <mailto:pascal at irenala.edu.mg>>
>     > To: afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net <mailto:afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
>     > Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] AFRINIC Internet Measurement
>     Awareness
>     >? ? ? ? ?Survey
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>     > Dear Amreesh,
>     >
>     > Our NREN full the survey? of Internet Mesurement. ( NREN Malagasy in
>     > Madagascar )
>     >
>     > I think that other participates
>     >
>     > regard,
>     >
>     > --
>     >
>     >
>     > *Pascal* Heriliva ANDRIANISA
>     > Webmaster i RENALA
>     > *R*esearch and *E*ducation *N*etwork for *A*cademic and *L*earning
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>     > Le 2019-02-04 ? 10:17, Nico Schottelius a ?crit?:
>     > > Good morning Amreesh,
>     > >
>     > > greetings from Europe. I was wondering whether you will
>     publish the
>     > > results of the survey afterwards?
>     > >
>     > > We are running an IPv6 first data center in Switzerland and we are
>     > > conducting similar surveys on Twitter (@ungleich) at the
>     moment to get a
>     > > better impression on how to grow the IPv6 adoption.
>     > >
>     > > Best regards,
>     > >
>     > > Nico
>     > >
>     > > Amreesh Phokeer <amreesh at afrinic.net
>     <mailto:amreesh at afrinic.net>> writes:
>     > >
>     > >> {Apologies for cross-posting}
>     > >>
>     > >> Dear colleagues,
>     > >>
>     > >> AFRINIC has launched a survey with the aim of assessing the
>     current
>     status of Internet measurement in Africa.
>     > >>
>     > >> Your responses will help AFRINIC? understand the available
>     measurement
>     infrastructure on the continent as well as the gap in the
>     infrastructure
>     and the relevant skills that need to be filled. AFRINIC will use the
>     responses as guide in building Internet measurement programmes to
>     train
>     network operators, regulators, end users, and other stakeholders
>     in the
>     forthcoming summits, conferences, and *nog meetings across the
>     continent.
>     > >>
>     > >> We invite you to take the survey? available in both English (
>     https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/survey/index/sid/634362/newtest/Y/lang/en)
>     and French (
>     https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/survey/index/sid/634362/newtest/Y/lang/fr
>     ).
>     > >>
>     > >> The deadline for filling the survey is 28 February 2018.
>     > >>
>     > >> Please read more on the benefits and the reasons behind the
>     need for
>     assessing the current status of Internet measurement in Africa
>     from our
>     blog here.
>     https://www.afrinic.net/blog/421-africa-internet-measurement-awareness-survey
>     > >>
>     > >> ????????????????.
>     > >>
>     > >> Chers coll?gues,
>     > >>
>     > >> AFRINIC a lanc? un sondage dans le but d'?valuer l'?tat
>     actuel de la
>     m?trologie des r?seaux en Afrique. Vos r?ponses aideront AFRINIC ?
>     comprendre l'infrastructure de la m?trologie disponible sur le
>     continent,
>     ainsi que les lacunes dans l?infrastructure et les lacunes au
>     niveau des
>     comp?tences.
>     > >>
>     > >> Les r?sultats de ce sondage servira ? ?laborer des programmes de
>     m?trologie des r?seaux destin?s ? former les op?rateurs de r?seau, les
>     r?gulateurs, les utilisateurs finaux et d'autres partenaires lors des
>     prochains sommets, conf?rences et r?unions ? travers le continent.
>     > >>
>     > >> Nous vous invitons ? r?pondre au sondage qui est disponible
>     en anglais
>     (
>     https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/survey/index/sid/634362/newtest/Y/lang/en)
>     et en fran?ais (https: // survey .afrinic.net <http://afrinic.net>
>     / index.php / survey / index
>     / sid / 634362 / newtest / Y / lang / fr).
>     > >>
>     > >> La date limite pour remplir le questionnaire est 28 f?vrier 2018.
>     > >>
>     > >> Consultez notre blog ici pour en savoir plus sur les
>     avantages et les
>     raisons de la n?cessit? d'?valuer l'?tat actuel de la m?trologie des
>     r?seaux en Afrique.
>     https://www.afrinic.net/blog/421-africa-internet-measurement-awareness-survey
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>     > >>
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