[AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6

Lee Howard lee.howard at retevia.net
Thu Dec 6 14:35:02 UTC 2018

This is a good point. IPv6, like the Internet itself, benefits from the 
"network effect," where it is more valuable as more people use it.

A telecom regulator can call a meeting of ISPs, mobile carriers, web 
hosts, IXP,  the NREN or university, and maybe a few large companies, 
kick off with a presentation about why IPv6 is important, and ask 
everyone what their plan is to provide IPv6 to their customers. Anyone 
who does not have a current plan can say when they'll have a plan, and 
the group can get together in six months to track progress.

In some countries, this kind of meeting has been called by someone other 
than the telecom regulator. Probably everyone on this list can write the 
guest list, and work with others to convene the meeting. I imagine 
Afrinic would help, too.

If the meeting opens with, "In 6-12 months, nobody else in country will 
be able to get Internet access, because we will be unable to get more 
IPv4 addresses," you will have their attention. Source: 


On 12/6/18 4:41 AM, Pascal ANDRIANISA wrote:
> Dear All,
> I think there is also another solution which is to inform the operators in each country of the situation because if only the members who will apply IPv6 it will not be possible to use it optimally.
> I do not know if a provision to that effect has already been taken but I think that all the members are aware of the situation.
> Best regard,
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> *De: *"Mukom Akong T." <mukom.tamon at gmail.com> *À: *"IPv6 in Africa" 
> <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net> *Envoyé: *Jeudi 6 Décembre 2018 06:41:29 
> *Objet: *Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop 
> people moving to IPv6
> > > Consumers are unaware of IPv6, so it's not part of their buying 
> decision. If something doesn't make consumer buy boxes, vendors don't 
> do it. I do not think consumer education about IP is a good idea. 
> Neither do I. Consumers don't DIRECTLY care about IP (whether v4 or 
> v6). But they do care about other features that may be only possible 
> (or easier, or cheaper) with v6. This is one place where I see the 
> role of governments. In the interest of national development, just ban 
> importation and sale of legacy equipment. Similar to what is already 
> done with type approval in telecommunications today. > ISPs buying 
> cheap boxes and not paying anything for support, so they can't get 
> upgrades. > Foreign ISPs dumping volumes of used CPE, which get resold 
> at deep discounts. I've been screaming about this for years. Even 
> worse, some of it is going to be "sold" as "next generation Internet 
> aid or technical corporation") which further cripples IPv6 deployment. 
> > > Something that has worked for some companies is an "ISP Certified" 
> sticker. CPE vendors could apply to an ISP, and pay the costs of 
> testing. If the tests complied with the ISP's requirements, which 
> might include MAP, lw4o6, or 464xlat support, the vendor is allowed to 
> put a sticker on their box saying, "This device certified for use with 
> $ISP." There might be a business opportunity for someone who can set 
> up a really good CPE testing lab, so ISPs could outsource their 
> testing and certification. In addition, I believe that with two days 
> of training (regulators and customs) and the appropriate 
> infrastructure and a PROCESS, we can help a government implement type 
> approval for IPv6. Any regulator that wishes to do this should reach 
> out and join the waiting list by taking the Government IPv6 Readiness 
> Self Assessment at ENGLISH → https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=en 
> FRENCH → https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=fr > For years I have 
> been an IPv6 advocate – and I still am – and I’ve actively deployed 
> and run IPv6 in production supplying it to the end user, with multiple 
> percentage point changes in country IPv6 penetration statistics as a 
> result, but I am fast realizing that if we want IPv6 to grow and 
> thrive – it’s time we started being a little more open and honest 
> about the challenges and problems with it – instead of sprouting off 
> that everyone should just move to it.   Let’s acknowledge that IPv6 is 
> critical, we have no option, but it is also deeply flawed, has major 
> problems, and until start dealing with those – we will see deployment 
> continue to stutter I agree with the above. The solution is not just 
> another open "discussion" where people who have not even started any 
> kind of deployment, or even have a fair idea of what percentage of 
> equipment might or might not be v6 ready go on an on about problems 
> they've only heard about. > > Should we have a round table discussion 
> at AIS? How can we identify and make progress on resolving issues with 
> IPv6? > Perhaps we can start with a mailing list thread of SPECIFIC 
> issues people have encountered while attempting a deployment on this 
> mailing list, then build up to a webinar or discussion at AIS. There 
> are probably about 400million users using IPv6 today and growing, 
> someone somewhere has solved those problems. > The common theme in my 
> answers above is that more people running IPv6 provides more weight in 
> solving problems. If everyone would take a couple of hours to do three 
> things, we'd have a very broad base of common experience to draw from: 
> > > 1. Write an address plan. Don't worry if it takes several 
> revisions, that's normal. > > 2. Apply to Afrinic for IPv6 addresses. 
> > > 3. Announce the IPv6 addresses and route them on your backbone. 
> These are things that we've helped operators implement in 1 day at our 
> deployathons (or 6 two hour sessions during helpdesk calls). It's 
> surprising how many operators need help with their address planning. 
> Which is why not only do we teach them how to determine how much space 
> they get, but also how to implement them in an IPAM.  For those 
> interested, a video of a highly attended and rated AFRINIC webinar can 
> be found at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFIVQ_Z9je8&t=542s Step by 
> step walk-through of address planning best practices and 
> implementation in an IPAM ---- no maths! > > AFRINIC's training and 
> IPv6 Helpdesk are great resources. The premise behind the helpdesk is 
> this: We can find ONE operator a month that's committed to deploying 
> IPv6, we keep providing targeted training and coaching to move them 
> from one deployment milestone to another until we get stuck with 
> incompatible equipment or internal collaboration issues. All it takes 
> is about 4 hours investment per week. If you are interested, make a 
> request at bit.ly/6deployEN <http://bit.ly/6deployEN>   (english) 
> bit.ly/6deployFR <http://bit.ly/6deployFR>    (french) As we do this, 
> we're also building an tremendous amount of intel on what actually 
> HOLDS IPv6 deployment back from real operators attempting to deploy it 
> and so far with over 45 tickets, the evidence indicates that 
> incompatible equipment is not in the top 5.
> We're also realising that that argument from big operators about 
> "customers aren't asking for it" is not true. We know of large 
> operators that within 2 months have received explicitly written 
> requests to enable IPv6 from large corporate customers. You don't want 
> to see their response :(
> If you want to host one of our DEPLOYATHON sessions in your country
> - 5% teaching, 95% DOing
> - using our Prototype → Validate → Develop → Deploy framework
> - enables you hit a measurable deployment milestone within 8 hours
> you can apply at: https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=en (or 
> https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=fr in french)
> And for those who are still wondering how ready or not their 
> organisations are, take our free Organisational IPv6 Readiness 
> Assessment at https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=en  (or 
> https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=fr in French)
> The results might provide pointers where to start the process.
> Until next time ..... be EXCELLENT -- Mukom Akong T. LinkedIn:Mukom  | 
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