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From willy.manga at auf.org  Mon Mar  5 11:38:38 2018
From: willy.manga at auf.org (Willy MANGA)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 12:38:38 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 packets from Chad
Message-ID: <2d63c2f7-2899-9b80-458c-73daabac0402@auf.org>

Hello,
just to let you know that, we, as an end-user, have requested from our
ISP to provide us with  an IPv6 prefix for our office in Chad.
It took them 1 month to work on it and assign us a /56
(2a02:6600:8001:200::/56 ) .
We would have been more than happy if a local provider was able to
provide us a good connectivity and IPv6. However , it's not (yet)
possible in Chad.


--
Willy Ted MANGA
Responsable Technique R?gional | DRACGL
https://www.auf.org/afrique-centrale-grands-lacs/




From nishal at controlfreak.co.za  Mon Mar  5 11:51:05 2018
From: nishal at controlfreak.co.za (Nishal Goburdhan)
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 13:51:05 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 packets from Chad
In-Reply-To: <2d63c2f7-2899-9b80-458c-73daabac0402@auf.org>
References: <2d63c2f7-2899-9b80-458c-73daabac0402@auf.org>
Message-ID: <B8BF95A5-C5CC-45B2-875C-A94A406314F9@controlfreak.co.za>

On 5 Mar 2018, at 13:38, Willy MANGA wrote:

> Hello,
> just to let you know that, we, as an end-user, have requested from our
> ISP to provide us with  an IPv6 prefix for our office in Chad.
> It took them 1 month to work on it and assign us a /56
> (2a02:6600:8001:200::/56 ) .
> We would have been more than happy if a local provider was able to
> provide us a good connectivity and IPv6. However , it's not (yet)
> possible in Chad.

hrm.
what?s interesting, is that this isn?t out of the afrinic ipv6 pools ..
not that this is a problem.  but odd anyway,

?n.


From willy.manga at auf.org  Mon Mar  5 12:11:36 2018
From: willy.manga at auf.org (Willy MANGA)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 13:11:36 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 packets from Chad
In-Reply-To: <B8BF95A5-C5CC-45B2-875C-A94A406314F9@controlfreak.co.za>
References: <2d63c2f7-2899-9b80-458c-73daabac0402@auf.org>
 <B8BF95A5-C5CC-45B2-875C-A94A406314F9@controlfreak.co.za>
Message-ID: <c7483cee-21d1-f983-8f93-361b643b5a0c@auf.org>

Hi Nishal,

Le 05/03/2018 ? 12:51, Nishal Goburdhan a ?crit?:
> On 5 Mar 2018, at 13:38, Willy MANGA wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> [...]
> hrm.
> what?s interesting, is that this isn?t out of the afrinic ipv6 pools ..
> not that this is a problem.  but odd anyway,

Indeed, it grows v6 stats from ripe pool; same as v4 by the way.

It's a VSAT provider who come from lots of merge and acquisition since 5
years at least.

Again ... If SOTEL Chad or any other local company can provide us a
reliable offer, we may change provider next year :)

-- 
Willy Ted MANGA
Responsable Technique R?gional | DRACGL
https://www.auf.org/afrique-centrale-grands-lacs/


From amreesh at afrinic.net  Mon Mar  5 12:13:01 2018
From: amreesh at afrinic.net (Amreesh Phokeer)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 16:13:01 +0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 packets from Chad
In-Reply-To: <B8BF95A5-C5CC-45B2-875C-A94A406314F9@controlfreak.co.za>
References: <2d63c2f7-2899-9b80-458c-73daabac0402@auf.org>
 <B8BF95A5-C5CC-45B2-875C-A94A406314F9@controlfreak.co.za>
Message-ID: <205A4051-3B66-4A6B-910C-7ED926726AC3@afrinic.net>

On 5 Mar 2018, at 15:51, Nishal Goburdhan <nishal at controlfreak.co.za> wrote:
> 
> not that this is a problem.  but odd anyway,

Space is announced by MARLINK - satellite provider I suppose.



From willy.manga at auf.org  Mon Mar  5 13:21:41 2018
From: willy.manga at auf.org (Willy MANGA)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:21:41 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 packets from Chad
In-Reply-To: <20180305130711.yik7k2vw4e2ub3at@nic.fr>
References: <2d63c2f7-2899-9b80-458c-73daabac0402@auf.org>
 <20180305130711.yik7k2vw4e2ub3at@nic.fr>
Message-ID: <abdb0bb5-4dbc-a778-cad4-d1f540e80450@auf.org>



Le 05/03/2018 ? 14:07, Stephane Bortzmeyer a ?crit?:
> On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 12:38:38PM +0100,
>  Willy MANGA <willy.manga at auf.org> wrote 
>  a message of 12 lines which said:
> 
>> We would have been more than happy if a local provider was able to
>> provide us a good connectivity and IPv6. However , it's not (yet)
>> possible in Chad.
> 
> En attendant, un tunnel via Hurricane Electric ?

Non. Ce sont des adresses IPv6 natives quand m?me. Ca vaut bien mieux
qu'un tunnel.

-- 
Willy Ted MANGA
Responsable Technique R?gional | DRACGL
https://www.auf.org/afrique-centrale-grands-lacs/


From mhtguinassou at gmail.com  Mon Mar  5 14:44:11 2018
From: mhtguinassou at gmail.com (TIDJANI Mahamat Adoum)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 06:44:11 -0800
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 packets from Chad
In-Reply-To: <abdb0bb5-4dbc-a778-cad4-d1f540e80450@auf.org>
References: <2d63c2f7-2899-9b80-458c-73daabac0402@auf.org>
 <20180305130711.yik7k2vw4e2ub3at@nic.fr>
 <abdb0bb5-4dbc-a778-cad4-d1f540e80450@auf.org>
Message-ID: <CAJszmiDVJ3tZSNGd2kzFmAGg_Q7iBn3t6DkXAXqtnCPkWKiufw@mail.gmail.com>

Bonjour WILLY,
C'est vraiment d?plorable cette situation, mais la SOTEL-TCHAD n'en est pas
le seul responsable. Par ce que avant de parler d'IPV6, vous avez d'abord
sollicit? la connectivit? de votre agence locale en Fibre Optique. Je me
rappelle que nous avons fait une ?tude de vos locaux et avons soumis a vos
administrateurs une offre qui n'a pas eu de retour jusqu?? nos jours. Bien
que cela ne justifie pas notre indisponibilit? de vous fournir des adresses
IPV6, mais explique qu'a m?me que, vous ne b?n?ficier d'aucun service de la
part de SOTEL-TCHAD.
Pour vous rassurer, nous n'avons pas encore la technicit? n?cessaire de
vous fournir en IPV6, mais une bonne connexion Internet, oui!

Tidjani MAHAMAT ADOUM
Ing?nieur R?seaux T?l?coms
Cellule Fibre Optique (SOTEL-TCHAD)
Consultant en Gouvernance d'Internet
Coordinateur Afrique Centrale pour ACSIS
Ligne Direct: (00235) 66273348 ou 77306979
Ligne secourt: (00235) 62306979 ou 92306979
E-mail.P: tidjani <tidjanicapi at hotmail.fr>-m.adoum at acsis-scasi.org


2018-03-05 5:21 GMT-08:00 Willy MANGA <willy.manga at auf.org>:

>
>
> Le 05/03/2018 ? 14:07, Stephane Bortzmeyer a ?crit :
> > On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 12:38:38PM +0100,
> >  Willy MANGA <willy.manga at auf.org> wrote
> >  a message of 12 lines which said:
> >
> >> We would have been more than happy if a local provider was able to
> >> provide us a good connectivity and IPv6. However , it's not (yet)
> >> possible in Chad.
> >
> > En attendant, un tunnel via Hurricane Electric ?
>
> Non. Ce sont des adresses IPv6 natives quand m?me. Ca vaut bien mieux
> qu'un tunnel.
>
> --
> Willy Ted MANGA
> Responsable Technique R?gional | DRACGL
> https://www.auf.org/afrique-centrale-grands-lacs/
>
> _______________________________________________
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From stephen.honlue at afrinic.net  Mon Mar  5 14:51:13 2018
From: stephen.honlue at afrinic.net (Stephen Honlue)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 18:51:13 +0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 packets from Chad
In-Reply-To: <CAJszmiDVJ3tZSNGd2kzFmAGg_Q7iBn3t6DkXAXqtnCPkWKiufw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2d63c2f7-2899-9b80-458c-73daabac0402@auf.org>
 <20180305130711.yik7k2vw4e2ub3at@nic.fr>
 <abdb0bb5-4dbc-a778-cad4-d1f540e80450@auf.org>
 <CAJszmiDVJ3tZSNGd2kzFmAGg_Q7iBn3t6DkXAXqtnCPkWKiufw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f095988e-aee4-725f-481d-b9f7ed837ff5@afrinic.net>

Bonsoir Tidjani,

J'espere que tu vas bien.

Qu'est ce qui vous empeche d'offrir IPv6?

Etes vous au moins rentr? en pocession de votre prefixe aupres d'AFRINIC?

Si oui, avez vous besoin de soutien?

Cordialement.


On 05/03/2018 18:44, TIDJANI Mahamat Adoum wrote:
> Bonjour WILLY,
> C'est vraiment d?plorable cette situation, mais la SOTEL-TCHAD n'en
> est pas le seul responsable. Par ce que avant de parler d'IPV6, vous
> avez d'abord sollicit? la connectivit? de votre agence locale en Fibre
> Optique. Je me rappelle que nous avons fait une ?tude de vos locaux et
> avons soumis a vos administrateurs une offre qui n'a pas eu de retour
> jusqu?? nos jours. Bien que cela ne justifie pas notre indisponibilit?
> de vous fournir des adresses IPV6, mais explique qu'a m?me que, vous
> ne b?n?ficier d'aucun service de la part de SOTEL-TCHAD.
> Pour vous rassurer, nous n'avons pas encore la technicit? n?cessaire
> de vous fournir en IPV6, mais une bonne connexion Internet, oui!
>
> Tidjani MAHAMAT ADOUM
> Ing?nieur R?seaux T?l?coms
> Cellule Fibre Optique (SOTEL-TCHAD)
> Consultant en Gouvernance d'Internet
> Coordinateur Afrique Centrale pour ACSIS
> Ligne Direct: (00235) 66273348 ou 77306979
> Ligne secourt: (00235) 62306979 ou 92306979
> E-mail.P: tidjani
> <mailto:tidjanicapi at hotmail.fr>-m.adoum at acsis-scasi.org
> <mailto:m.adoum at acsis-scasi.org>
>
>
> 2018-03-05 5:21 GMT-08:00 Willy MANGA <willy.manga at auf.org
> <mailto:willy.manga at auf.org>>:
>
>
>
>     Le 05/03/2018 ? 14:07, Stephane Bortzmeyer a ?crit?:
>     > On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 12:38:38PM +0100,
>     >? Willy MANGA <willy.manga at auf.org <mailto:willy.manga at auf.org>>
>     wrote
>     >? a message of 12 lines which said:
>     >
>     >> We would have been more than happy if a local provider was able to
>     >> provide us a good connectivity and IPv6. However , it's not (yet)
>     >> possible in Chad.
>     >
>     > En attendant, un tunnel via Hurricane Electric ?
>
>     Non. Ce sont des adresses IPv6 natives quand m?me. Ca vaut bien mieux
>     qu'un tunnel.
>
>     --
>     Willy Ted MANGA
>     Responsable Technique R?gional | DRACGL
>     https://www.auf.org/afrique-centrale-grands-lacs/
>     <https://www.auf.org/afrique-centrale-grands-lacs/>
>
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From willy.manga at auf.org  Mon Mar  5 14:55:37 2018
From: willy.manga at auf.org (Willy MANGA)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 15:55:37 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 packets from Chad
In-Reply-To: <CAJszmiDVJ3tZSNGd2kzFmAGg_Q7iBn3t6DkXAXqtnCPkWKiufw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2d63c2f7-2899-9b80-458c-73daabac0402@auf.org>
 <20180305130711.yik7k2vw4e2ub3at@nic.fr>
 <abdb0bb5-4dbc-a778-cad4-d1f540e80450@auf.org>
 <CAJszmiDVJ3tZSNGd2kzFmAGg_Q7iBn3t6DkXAXqtnCPkWKiufw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44aada87-387b-f743-cb8d-6ff1124f0ee1@auf.org>

Bonjour Tidjani

Le 05/03/2018 ? 15:44, TIDJANI Mahamat Adoum a ?crit?:
> Bonjour WILLY,
> C'est vraiment d?plorable cette situation, mais la SOTEL-TCHAD n'en est pas
> le seul responsable. Par ce que avant de parler d'IPV6, vous avez d'abord
> sollicit? la connectivit? de votre agence locale en Fibre Optique. Je me
> rappelle que nous avons fait une ?tude de vos locaux et avons soumis a vos
> administrateurs une offre qui n'a pas eu de retour jusqu?? nos jours. Bien
> que cela ne justifie pas notre indisponibilit? de vous fournir des adresses
> IPV6, mais explique qu'a m?me que, vous ne b?n?ficier d'aucun service de la
> part de SOTEL-TCHAD.

Oui, nous avions bien re?u votre proposition et je t'en remercie. Disons
qu'il vous manquait encore certains ?l?ments afin qu'on puisse
effectivement retenir votre proposition.


> Pour vous rassurer, nous n'avons pas encore la technicit? n?cessaire de
> vous fournir en IPV6, mais une bonne connexion Internet, oui!

N'est-ce pas le r?le entre autre d'AFRINIC et d'autres partenaires
d'offrir des training? Le dernier au Tchad a eu lieu l'ann?e pass?e dans
nos locaux ; organis? en collaboration avec ISOC Tchad justement.
Ca serait bien que les personnes form?es puissent dynamiser les autres
afin que ?a puisse effectivement d?marrer localement.

De ma petite exp?rience personnelle, il faut commencer maintenant; m?me
avec un tunnel mais il faut commencer quelque part. Sinon ce qu'on a
appris dort dans un placard et on finit par laisser tomber.

Dans tous les cas, je ne peux que vous encourager ? pouvoir monter en
comp?tence; tout le monde y gagnera. C'est mon souhait.

J'esp?re qu'au prochain renouvellement votre offre sera encore plus
avantageuse ;)



-- 
Willy Ted MANGA
Responsable Technique R?gional | DRACGL
https://www.auf.org/afrique-centrale-grands-lacs/


From mhtguinassou at gmail.com  Mon Mar  5 15:07:27 2018
From: mhtguinassou at gmail.com (TIDJANI Mahamat Adoum)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 07:07:27 -0800
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 packets from Chad
In-Reply-To: <f095988e-aee4-725f-481d-b9f7ed837ff5@afrinic.net>
References: <2d63c2f7-2899-9b80-458c-73daabac0402@auf.org>
 <20180305130711.yik7k2vw4e2ub3at@nic.fr>
 <abdb0bb5-4dbc-a778-cad4-d1f540e80450@auf.org>
 <CAJszmiDVJ3tZSNGd2kzFmAGg_Q7iBn3t6DkXAXqtnCPkWKiufw@mail.gmail.com>
 <f095988e-aee4-725f-481d-b9f7ed837ff5@afrinic.net>
Message-ID: <CAJszmiDfLKrVE89rT0vxk12NZjAaBN5-Rkaw9=PkqYSCzfCOgw@mail.gmail.com>

Bonjour Stephen
En 2013, au sommet d'Abidjan, je crois que nous avons pris un pr?fixe IPV6,
par ce que ?a nous revenais de droit et gratuitement en tant que client
IPV4. Cependant, vous connaissez aussi que moi comment sont g?r?es nos
infrastructures ici au Tchad. Toutes les fois que vous ?tiez avec nous ici,
les principaux gestionnaires de cette question ?taient avec nous et y a eu
souvent des discussions a ce sujet. Personnellement je me suis investi pour
accueillir la formation d'Afrinic en IPV6 plusieurs fois au Tchad. Mais
jamais cela n'a int?ress? nos Managers. Pour eux pourvus que l'Internet
marche .... il ne comprennent pas les enjeux techniques

Tidjani MAHAMAT ADOUM
Ing?nieur R?seaux T?l?coms
Cellule Fibre Optique (SOTEL-TCHAD)
Consultant en Gouvernance d'Internet
Coordinateur Afrique Centrale pour ACSIS
Ligne Direct: (00235) 66273348 ou 77306979
Ligne secourt: (00235) 62306979 ou 92306979
E-mail.P: tidjani <tidjanicapi at hotmail.fr>-m.adoum at acsis-scasi.org


Le 5 mars 2018 ? 06:51, Stephen Honlue <stephen.honlue at afrinic.net> a ?crit
:

> Bonsoir Tidjani,
>
> J'espere que tu vas bien.
>
> Qu'est ce qui vous empeche d'offrir IPv6?
>
> Etes vous au moins rentr? en pocession de votre prefixe aupres d'AFRINIC?
>
> Si oui, avez vous besoin de soutien?
>
> Cordialement.
>
> On 05/03/2018 18:44, TIDJANI Mahamat Adoum wrote:
>
> Bonjour WILLY,
> C'est vraiment d?plorable cette situation, mais la SOTEL-TCHAD n'en est
> pas le seul responsable. Par ce que avant de parler d'IPV6, vous avez
> d'abord sollicit? la connectivit? de votre agence locale en Fibre Optique.
> Je me rappelle que nous avons fait une ?tude de vos locaux et avons soumis
> a vos administrateurs une offre qui n'a pas eu de retour jusqu?? nos jours.
> Bien que cela ne justifie pas notre indisponibilit? de vous fournir des
> adresses IPV6, mais explique qu'a m?me que, vous ne b?n?ficier d'aucun
> service de la part de SOTEL-TCHAD.
> Pour vous rassurer, nous n'avons pas encore la technicit? n?cessaire de
> vous fournir en IPV6, mais une bonne connexion Internet, oui!
>
> Tidjani MAHAMAT ADOUM
> Ing?nieur R?seaux T?l?coms
> Cellule Fibre Optique (SOTEL-TCHAD)
> Consultant en Gouvernance d'Internet
> Coordinateur Afrique Centrale pour ACSIS
> Ligne Direct: (00235) 66273348 ou 77306979
> Ligne secourt: (00235) 62306979 ou 92306979
> E-mail.P: tidjani <tidjanicapi at hotmail.fr>-m.adoum at acsis-scasi.org
>
>
> 2018-03-05 5:21 GMT-08:00 Willy MANGA <willy.manga at auf.org>:
>
>>
>>
>> Le 05/03/2018 ? 14:07, Stephane Bortzmeyer a ?crit :
>> > On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 12:38:38PM +0100,
>> >  Willy MANGA <willy.manga at auf.org> wrote
>> >  a message of 12 lines which said:
>> >
>> >> We would have been more than happy if a local provider was able to
>> >> provide us a good connectivity and IPv6. However , it's not (yet)
>> >> possible in Chad.
>> >
>> > En attendant, un tunnel via Hurricane Electric ?
>>
>> Non. Ce sont des adresses IPv6 natives quand m?me. Ca vaut bien mieux
>> qu'un tunnel.
>>
>> --
>> Willy Ted MANGA
>> Responsable Technique R?gional | DRACGL
>> https://www.auf.org/afrique-centrale-grands-lacs/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> AfrIPv6-Discuss mailing list
>> AfrIPv6-Discuss at afrinic.net
>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/afripv6-discuss
>>
>
>
>
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>
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> ___________________________
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From mhtguinassou at gmail.com  Mon Mar  5 15:23:13 2018
From: mhtguinassou at gmail.com (TIDJANI Mahamat Adoum)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 07:23:13 -0800
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 packets from Chad
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Cher Willy
nous avons accueilli la m?me formation 6 fois au Tchad (2 fois dans vos
locaux). Le probl?me n'est pas seulement la ressource humaine capable, mais
aussi le faite d'amener les managers des infrastructures a comprendre les
enjeux. Nous avons plus de 100 Ing?nieurs des diff?rentes structures
form?s, il faut maintenant que leurs responsables d?cident de
l?impl?mentation. Et ce ci n?int?resse gu?re ici au Tchad. j?esp?re que
vous allez m'accompagner dans ma nouvelle mission (Celui d'amener les
d?cideurs de comprendre les enjeux)

Tidjani MAHAMAT ADOUM
Ing?nieur R?seaux T?l?coms
Cellule Fibre Optique (SOTEL-TCHAD)
Consultant en Gouvernance d'Internet
Coordinateur Afrique Centrale pour ACSIS
Ligne Direct: (00235) 66273348 ou 77306979
Ligne secourt: (00235) 62306979 ou 92306979
E-mail.P: tidjani <tidjanicapi at hotmail.fr>-m.adoum at acsis-scasi.org


Le 5 mars 2018 ? 07:07, TIDJANI Mahamat Adoum <mhtguinassou at gmail.com> a
?crit :

> Bonjour Stephen
> En 2013, au sommet d'Abidjan, je crois que nous avons pris un pr?fixe
> IPV6, par ce que ?a nous revenais de droit et gratuitement en tant que
> client IPV4. Cependant, vous connaissez aussi que moi comment sont g?r?es
> nos infrastructures ici au Tchad. Toutes les fois que vous ?tiez avec nous
> ici, les principaux gestionnaires de cette question ?taient avec nous et y
> a eu souvent des discussions a ce sujet. Personnellement je me suis investi
> pour accueillir la formation d'Afrinic en IPV6 plusieurs fois au Tchad.
> Mais jamais cela n'a int?ress? nos Managers. Pour eux pourvus que
> l'Internet marche .... il ne comprennent pas les enjeux techniques
>
> Tidjani MAHAMAT ADOUM
> Ing?nieur R?seaux T?l?coms
> Cellule Fibre Optique (SOTEL-TCHAD)
> Consultant en Gouvernance d'Internet
> Coordinateur Afrique Centrale pour ACSIS
> Ligne Direct: (00235) 66273348 ou 77306979
> Ligne secourt: (00235) 62306979 ou 92306979
> E-mail.P: tidjani <tidjanicapi at hotmail.fr>-m.adoum at acsis-scasi.org
>
>
> Le 5 mars 2018 ? 06:51, Stephen Honlue <stephen.honlue at afrinic.net> a
> ?crit :
>
>> Bonsoir Tidjani,
>>
>> J'espere que tu vas bien.
>>
>> Qu'est ce qui vous empeche d'offrir IPv6?
>>
>> Etes vous au moins rentr? en pocession de votre prefixe aupres d'AFRINIC?
>>
>> Si oui, avez vous besoin de soutien?
>>
>> Cordialement.
>>
>> On 05/03/2018 18:44, TIDJANI Mahamat Adoum wrote:
>>
>> Bonjour WILLY,
>> C'est vraiment d?plorable cette situation, mais la SOTEL-TCHAD n'en est
>> pas le seul responsable. Par ce que avant de parler d'IPV6, vous avez
>> d'abord sollicit? la connectivit? de votre agence locale en Fibre Optique.
>> Je me rappelle que nous avons fait une ?tude de vos locaux et avons soumis
>> a vos administrateurs une offre qui n'a pas eu de retour jusqu?? nos jours.
>> Bien que cela ne justifie pas notre indisponibilit? de vous fournir des
>> adresses IPV6, mais explique qu'a m?me que, vous ne b?n?ficier d'aucun
>> service de la part de SOTEL-TCHAD.
>> Pour vous rassurer, nous n'avons pas encore la technicit? n?cessaire de
>> vous fournir en IPV6, mais une bonne connexion Internet, oui!
>>
>> Tidjani MAHAMAT ADOUM
>> Ing?nieur R?seaux T?l?coms
>> Cellule Fibre Optique (SOTEL-TCHAD)
>> Consultant en Gouvernance d'Internet
>> Coordinateur Afrique Centrale pour ACSIS
>> Ligne Direct: (00235) 66273348 ou 77306979
>> Ligne secourt: (00235) 62306979 ou 92306979
>> E-mail.P: tidjani <tidjanicapi at hotmail.fr>-m.adoum at acsis-scasi.org
>>
>>
>> 2018-03-05 5:21 GMT-08:00 Willy MANGA <willy.manga at auf.org>:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 05/03/2018 ? 14:07, Stephane Bortzmeyer a ?crit :
>>> > On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 12:38:38PM +0100,
>>> >  Willy MANGA <willy.manga at auf.org> wrote
>>> >  a message of 12 lines which said:
>>> >
>>> >> We would have been more than happy if a local provider was able to
>>> >> provide us a good connectivity and IPv6. However , it's not (yet)
>>> >> possible in Chad.
>>> >
>>> > En attendant, un tunnel via Hurricane Electric ?
>>>
>>> Non. Ce sont des adresses IPv6 natives quand m?me. Ca vaut bien mieux
>>> qu'un tunnel.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Willy Ted MANGA
>>> Responsable Technique R?gional | DRACGL
>>> https://www.auf.org/afrique-centrale-grands-lacs/
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> AfrIPv6-Discuss mailing list
>>> AfrIPv6-Discuss at afrinic.net
>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/afripv6-discuss
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> AfrIPv6-Discuss mailing listAfrIPv6-Discuss at afrinic.nethttps://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/afripv6-discuss
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> MSH
>> Trainer
>> t: +230 403 51 00 |f: +230 466 6758 <+230%20466%206758> |tt: @afrinic |w:www.afrinic.netfacebook.com/afrinic | flickr.com/afrinic | youtube.com/afrinicmedia
>> ___________________________
>> Join us for the Africa Internet Summit AIS?18  in Dakar, Senegal from 29th April to 11th May 2018.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> AfrIPv6-Discuss mailing list
>> AfrIPv6-Discuss at afrinic.net
>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/afripv6-discuss
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From loganaden at gmail.com  Tue Mar  6 06:10:25 2018
From: loganaden at gmail.com (Loganaden Velvindron)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 10:10:25 +0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 packets from Chad
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>
>
> [Speaking in my personal capacity]


I met network engineers of an ISP. We had an informal chat about their IPv6
progress. It's not a business objective currently due to more  "lucrative"
projects such as TV over IP, and consumer Internet of Things.

Engineering customer demand for IPv6 is not an easy task. However, with the
emergence of IPv6 on  cloud platforms, this is causing *some* local SMEs to
ask for IPv6 from local ISPs as some of their global customers have v6
issues that they need to diagnose and fix.
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From daniel at afrinic.net  Fri Mar  9 05:56:12 2018
From: daniel at afrinic.net (Daniel Shaw)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2018 09:56:12 +0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] A Simple BGP-based Mobile Routing System for the
 Aeronautical Telecommunications Network
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Some may find this interesting...

> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: "Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin at boeing.com>
> Subject: [GROW] A Simple BGP-based Mobile Routing System for the Aeronautical Telecommunications Network
> Date: 9 March 2018 at 00:14:12 GMT+4
> To: "grow at ietf.org" <grow at ietf.org>
> Cc: "Saccone, Gregory T" <Gregory.T.Saccone at boeing.com>, Gaurav Dawra <gdawra.ietf at gmail.com>
> 
> Hello,
> 
> We have published a document that proposes BGP as the core of a mobile routing
> service for worldwide civil aviation in the Aeronautical Telecommunications Network
> with Internet Protocol Services (ATN/IPS). This would be an overlay network deployment
> of standard BGP with ASes arranged in such a way as to mitigate the mobility-related
> instability that was inherent in past approaches. The system also leverages an
> adjunct route optimization service known as AERO.
> 
> The ATN/IPS is planned to eventually replace existing air traffic management services
> with an IPv6-based service as part of a long-term evolution. The choice of mobile
> routing services is being made now, with this approach, LISP and Mobile IPv6 as
> candidates. Although the decision is being considered in the International Civil
> Aviation Organization (ICAO), we feel the time is right to socialize the effort
> in the IETF. 
> 
> The draft announcement appears below, and we would like to initiate discussion and
> seek feedback in this forum. Thanks in advance for your comments and questions.
> 
> Fred Templin
> 
> ---
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> 
> 
>        Title           : A Simple BGP-based Mobile Routing System for the Aeronautical Telecommunications Network
>        Authors         : Fred L. Templin
>                          Greg Saccone
>                          Gaurav Dawra
>                          Acee Lindem
> 	Filename        : draft-templin-atn-bgp-06.txt
> 	Pages           : 17
> 	Date            : 2018-03-03
> 
> Abstract:
>   The International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) is investigating
>   mobile routing solutions for a worldwide Aeronautical
>   Telecommunications Network with Internet Protocol Services (ATN/IPS).
>   The ATN/IPS will eventually replace existing communication services
>   with an IPv6-based service supporting pervasive Air Traffic
>   Management (ATM) for Air Traffic Controllers (ATC), Airline
>   Operations Controllers (AOC), and all commercial aircraft worldwide.
>   This informational document describes a simple and extensible mobile
>   routing service based on industry-standard BGP to address the ATN/IPS
>   requirements.
> 
> 
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-templin-atn-bgp/

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From mamadou.alassane at gmail.com  Tue Mar 13 07:42:28 2018
From: mamadou.alassane at gmail.com (Alassane MAMADOU)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 08:42:28 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 packets from Chad
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Bonjour ? tous ,

je me permet de faire une suggestion au groupe des formateurs sur la
vulgarisation de l'importance de l'introduction de l'IPv6 dans nos
impl?mentations .
J'ai constat? que toutes les formations sont pour la plupart techniques .
Nous avons peut ?tre omis la partie manag?riale de ce changement .
je sugg?re donc un plan de formation sur la strat?gie de migration de
l'IPv4 vers IPv6 mais vu d'un point de vue organisationnelle soit mis en
place.

J'ai l'impression que seuls les ing?nieurs comprennent cet enjeu et que les
d?cideurs africains surtout pour la plupart de l'Afrique francophone
attendent de se retrouver dos au mur avant d'agir.

Bonne journ?e ? tous .

Alassane MAMADOU

Tel:+22995000296

2018-03-06 7:10 GMT+01:00 Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden at gmail.com>:

>
>> [Speaking in my personal capacity]
>
>
> I met network engineers of an ISP. We had an informal chat about their
> IPv6 progress. It's not a business objective currently due to more
> "lucrative" projects such as TV over IP, and consumer Internet of Things.
>
> Engineering customer demand for IPv6 is not an easy task. However, with
> the emergence of IPv6 on  cloud platforms, this is causing *some* local
> SMEs to ask for IPv6 from local ISPs as some of their global customers have
> v6 issues that they need to diagnose and fix.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> AfrIPv6-Discuss mailing list
> AfrIPv6-Discuss at afrinic.net
> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/afripv6-discuss
>
>
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From bruno.stevant at gmail.com  Tue Mar 13 08:48:47 2018
From: bruno.stevant at gmail.com (Bruno Stevant)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 08:48:47 +0000
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 packets from Chad
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Bonjour ? tous,

Quelle est la situation d'IPv4 chez les op?rateurs au Tchad ?  Est-ce
qu'une date ? ?t? d?finie pour la p?nurie pr?visible d'adresse IPv4 ?
Cette ?ch?ance marque souvent les esprits et il est important de la
rappeler ? vos d?cideurs.
Bien s?r l'argument contradictoire est qu'on trouvera bien des solutions
pour s'en sortir une fois la p?nurie arriv?e, comme les CGN. C'est ? ce
moment qu'il faut mentionner les probl?me de cybers?curit?,
d'identification judiciaire ? partir d'une adresse IP, etc.
Les d?cideurs ne vont pas soutenir IPv6 pour la beaut? du protocole, mais
parce qu'il va permettre d'?viter d'impacter leur business, voir la
s?curit? nationale.

Le mar. 13 mars 2018 ? 08:44, Alassane MAMADOU <mamadou.alassane at gmail.com>
a ?crit :

> Bonjour ? tous ,
>
> je me permet de faire une suggestion au groupe des formateurs sur la
> vulgarisation de l'importance de l'introduction de l'IPv6 dans nos
> impl?mentations .
> J'ai constat? que toutes les formations sont pour la plupart techniques .
> Nous avons peut ?tre omis la partie manag?riale de ce changement .
> je sugg?re donc un plan de formation sur la strat?gie de migration de
> l'IPv4 vers IPv6 mais vu d'un point de vue organisationnelle soit mis en
> place.
>
> J'ai l'impression que seuls les ing?nieurs comprennent cet enjeu et que
> les d?cideurs africains surtout pour la plupart de l'Afrique francophone
> attendent de se retrouver dos au mur avant d'agir.
>
> Bonne journ?e ? tous .
>
> Alassane MAMADOU
>
> Tel:+22995000296 <+229%2095%2000%2002%2096>
>
> 2018-03-06 7:10 GMT+01:00 Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden at gmail.com>:
>
>>
>>> [Speaking in my personal capacity]
>>
>>
>> I met network engineers of an ISP. We had an informal chat about their
>> IPv6 progress. It's not a business objective currently due to more
>> "lucrative" projects such as TV over IP, and consumer Internet of Things.
>>
>> Engineering customer demand for IPv6 is not an easy task. However, with
>> the emergence of IPv6 on  cloud platforms, this is causing *some* local
>> SMEs to ask for IPv6 from local ISPs as some of their global customers have
>> v6 issues that they need to diagnose and fix.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> AfrIPv6-Discuss mailing list
>> AfrIPv6-Discuss at afrinic.net
>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/afripv6-discuss
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> AfrIPv6-Discuss mailing list
> AfrIPv6-Discuss at afrinic.net
> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/afripv6-discuss
>
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From mayediop at gmail.com  Tue Mar 13 09:29:59 2018
From: mayediop at gmail.com (Maye Diop)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 09:29:59 +0000
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 packets from Chad
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Bonjour Alassane,
Vous avez tout ? fait raison. Si on prend le cas du S?n?gal, nous avons
d?marr? en 2008 et ? ce jour, on n'a pas beaucoup avanc? malgr?
l'organisation d'une session de formation annuelle des ing?nieurs.
Le Top management ?voque souvent des probl?mes de co?t et ne comprend pas
les v?ritables enjeux sur le futur de l'Internet dans nos pays.

C'est la raison pour laquelle, ISOC-SN a d?cid? d'organiser en
collaboration avec Afrinic, un atelier d?di? aux managers intitul? "*Driving
IPv6 in Senegal from Management", du 02 au 06 Mai 2018.*

L'objectif est de sensibiliser les Managers des services de l'Etat, du
R?gulateur, des Universit?s et surtout du Secteur priv? sur la n?cessit? de
mener cette transition et de leur donner les outils n?cessaires pour la
planification de la mise en oeuvre et son monitoring.

Nous ne manquerons pas de partager sur notre site www.isoc.sn.

En vous souhaitant une excellente journ?e,
Bien cordialement


-- 
---------------------
Mme Nd?ye Maimouna DIOP
Pr?sidente ISOC-SN


Le 13 mars 2018 ? 07:42, Alassane MAMADOU <mamadou.alassane at gmail.com> a
?crit :

> Bonjour ? tous ,
>
> je me permet de faire une suggestion au groupe des formateurs sur la
> vulgarisation de l'importance de l'introduction de l'IPv6 dans nos
> impl?mentations .
> J'ai constat? que toutes les formations sont pour la plupart techniques .
> Nous avons peut ?tre omis la partie manag?riale de ce changement .
> je sugg?re donc un plan de formation sur la strat?gie de migration de
> l'IPv4 vers IPv6 mais vu d'un point de vue organisationnelle soit mis en
> place.
>
> J'ai l'impression que seuls les ing?nieurs comprennent cet enjeu et que
> les d?cideurs africains surtout pour la plupart de l'Afrique francophone
> attendent de se retrouver dos au mur avant d'agir.
>
> Bonne journ?e ? tous .
>
> Alassane MAMADOU
>
> Tel:+22995000296 <+229%2095%2000%2002%2096>
>
> 2018-03-06 7:10 GMT+01:00 Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden at gmail.com>:
>
>>
>>> [Speaking in my personal capacity]
>>
>>
>> I met network engineers of an ISP. We had an informal chat about their
>> IPv6 progress. It's not a business objective currently due to more
>> "lucrative" projects such as TV over IP, and consumer Internet of Things.
>>
>> Engineering customer demand for IPv6 is not an easy task. However, with
>> the emergence of IPv6 on  cloud platforms, this is causing *some* local
>> SMEs to ask for IPv6 from local ISPs as some of their global customers have
>> v6 issues that they need to diagnose and fix.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> AfrIPv6-Discuss mailing list
>> AfrIPv6-Discuss at afrinic.net
>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/afripv6-discuss
>>
>>
>
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From bortzmeyer at nic.fr  Tue Mar 13 10:25:59 2018
From: bortzmeyer at nic.fr (Stephane Bortzmeyer)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 11:25:59 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 packets from Chad
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On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 09:29:59AM +0000,
 Maye Diop <mayediop at gmail.com> wrote 
 a message of 231 lines which said:

> C'est la raison pour laquelle, ISOC-SN a d?cid? d'organiser en
> collaboration avec Afrinic, un atelier d?di? aux managers intitul? "*Driving
> IPv6 in Senegal from Management", du 02 au 06 Mai 2018.*
> 
> L'objectif est de sensibiliser les Managers des services de l'Etat, du
> R?gulateur, des Universit?s et surtout du Secteur priv?

D'un autre c?t?, les d?ploiements techniques n'ont pas forc?ment
besoin de la participation des managers. Les techniciens peuvent
activer IPv6 tout seuls. Si le manager est indiff?rent ? cette
question, il ne faut pas le consid?rer comme un obstacle.


From Lee.Howard at retevia.net  Tue Mar 13 12:25:57 2018
From: Lee.Howard at retevia.net (Lee Howard)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 07:25:57 -0500
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 packets from Chad
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Message-ID: <D6CD26D9.986BE%Lee.Howard@retevia.net>

Je suis en accord.
J?ai entendu plusieurs fois que les ing?nieurs veulent d?ployer IPv6, mais
leurs patrons ne les laisser pas. Il fault des heures de travails, et il y a
toujours des autres priorit?s.

Moi, je pense qu?il est pr?f?rable de former les ing?nieurs que d?essayer
trouver les d?cideurs.  J?ai formul? six questions pour assister les
ing?nieurs faire l?argument aux executifs:
1. Combiens de temps avons-nous avant de manquer des adresses IPv4?
2. Est-ce qu?il y a un prix pour des adresses auquel nous devions faire
quelque chose different qu?on fait maintenant?
3. Est-ce que la latence nous est importante?
4. A quelle date serait-il quelque chose ? IPv6 seulement, dont nous aurons
besoin?
5. Voulons-nous ?viter CGN?
6. Int?ressons-nous aux architectures nouvelles activ?es par IPv6?
En dix minutes, je pense, on peut faire un argument pour les d?cideurs qu?il
faut savoir, au moins, combien de temp il prendrait ? d?ployer. Selon mon
exp?rience, il n?est jamais moins que deux ans.

Si on peut r?pondre qu?on n?a pas besoin de IPv6 au futur visible, la
d?cision contre d?ploiement a raison.

Meilleurs voeux,

Lee

PS Je vous demande pardon pour mes erreurs de langue. Ce n?est pas ma langue
primaire, et je manque des opportunit?s ? pratiquer.


From:  Alassane MAMADOU <mamadou.alassane at gmail.com>
Reply-To:  IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Date:  Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 2:42 AM
To:  IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Subject:  Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 packets from Chad

> Bonjour ? tous , 
> 
> je me permet de faire une suggestion au groupe des formateurs sur la
> vulgarisation de l'importance de l'introduction de l'IPv6 dans nos
> impl?mentations .
> J'ai constat? que toutes les formations sont pour la plupart techniques . Nous
> avons peut ?tre omis la partie manag?riale de ce changement .
> je sugg?re donc un plan de formation sur la strat?gie de migration de l'IPv4
> vers IPv6 mais vu d'un point de vue organisationnelle soit mis en place.
> 
> J'ai l'impression que seuls les ing?nieurs comprennent cet enjeu et que les
> d?cideurs africains surtout pour la plupart de l'Afrique francophone attendent
> de se retrouver dos au mur avant d'agir.
> 
> Bonne journ?e ? tous .
> 
> Alassane MAMADOU
> 
> Tel:+22995000296
> 
> 2018-03-06 7:10 GMT+01:00 Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden at gmail.com>:
>>> 
>> [Speaking in my personal capacity]
>> 
>> 
>> I met network engineers of an ISP. We had an informal chat about their IPv6
>> progress. It's not a business objective currently due to more  "lucrative"
>> projects such as TV over IP, and consumer Internet of Things.
>>  
>> Engineering customer demand for IPv6 is not an easy task. However, with the
>> emergence of IPv6 on  cloud platforms, this is causing *some* local SMEs to
>> ask for IPv6 from local ISPs as some of their global customers have v6 issues
>> that they need to diagnose and fix.
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> AfrIPv6-Discuss mailing list
>> AfrIPv6-Discuss at afrinic.net
>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/afripv6-discuss
>> 
> 
> _______________________________________________ AfrIPv6-Discuss mailing list
> AfrIPv6-Discuss at afrinic.net
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From willy.manga at auf.org  Tue Mar 13 15:41:53 2018
From: willy.manga at auf.org (Willy MANGA)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 16:41:53 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 packets from Chad
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Bonjour

Le 13/03/2018 ? 08:42, Alassane MAMADOU a ?crit?:
> Bonjour ? tous ,
> 
> [...]
> J'ai constat? que toutes les formations sont pour la plupart techniques .
> Nous avons peut ?tre omis la partie manag?riale de ce changement .

Normal; je pense que le dernier sondage effectu? par le staff d'AFRINIC
a du le faire ressortir et ils ont bien pris note.

> [...]
> J'ai l'impression que seuls les ing?nieurs comprennent cet enjeu et que les
> d?cideurs africains surtout pour la plupart de l'Afrique francophone
> attendent de se retrouver dos au mur avant d'agir.


Il me semble que parmi les ing?nieurs qui ont d?j? particip? ? ces
formations, sont ceux qui sont tr?s souvent ? la t?te des d?partements
et qui discutent g?n?ralement avec le top management. Ils peuvent aussi
?tre force de persuasion.
Et comme l'a soulign? St?phane B. au fond si les ing?nieurs ont compris
comment ?a marche et en attendant que ?a soit un argument commercial
pour les autres d?partements, l'activation peut se faire dans certaines
couches de leurs r?seaux sans probl?me ? mon humble avis.
A mon avis au fond il y a d'abord un souci de ?motivation?. Beaucoup de
personnes dans la cha?ne vont donner mille et une raisons pour ne jamais
commencer; indiquant parfois qu'il revient ? l'autre de faire tel ou
telle chose et au final personne ne fait rien.

Je me permets d'expliquer un peu plus une des slides de cette
pr?sentation (Fran?ais
https://nda.manbene.net/index.php/s/j5himX7Bfjk7OaV , Anglais
https://nda.manbene.net/index.php/s/JJPCt8OVzoxNXCv ) .


Mon employeur n'est qu'un end-user ici mais il m'a suffit d'expliquer en
20 minutes ? notre directeur r?gional (Afrique centrale et grands lacs)
qui est un juriste ? la base :
* qu'en utilisant IPv6 c'est lui qui communique directement avec l'autre
. Ce qui n'est pas le cas actuellement (en IPv4) dans NOTRE r?seau.

 * nous travaillons dans le secteur universitaire et de ce fait nous
devons ?tre au faite des avanc?es dans le domaine des technologies qui
peuvent ?tre employ?es

 * cela rentre dans certains axes de notre nouvelle programmation qui
vise entre autre ? promouvoir l'innovation

 * la migration proprement dite n'a rien chang? aux habitudes de travail
des coll?gues (d'ailleurs quand je lui expliquais tout ceci, j'avais
d?j? mis en place ? l'?poque un tunnel IPv6 et qui marchait et en dehors
de la technique, personne ne savait qu'on utilisait d?j? IPv6).

 * au niveau des ressources humaines et financi?res cela allait nous
co?ter : 0 XAF en investissement mais quelques heures de travail en plus
pour l'unique personnel technique du bureau r?gional.

J'ai utilis? tr?s peu de termes techniques et j'ai essay? de coller mon
argumentaire aux orientations de notre organisation.

Voil? ce qui a convaincu ma direction d'aller de l'avant et m'a aid? ?
mettre par la suite la pression ? notre FAI qui mettait en avant que
?personne ne demande IPv6?.
Et comme par hasard, d?s que nous avons demand? un pr?fixe IPv6 au FAI;
cela ne leur a m?me pas pris 2 mois pour nous en octroyer un et le
mettre en marche. Ils ont eu des difficult?s ? stabiliser la liaison
mais au final, nous utilisons IPv6 de mani?re native et ?a fonctionne
tr?s bien.
Mon premier post sur ce sujet vous montre aussi que notre objectif est
de le d?ployer dans tous nos bureaux. Et pour le moment on y est aussi
arriv? avec notre site de Ndjamena.

Voil? concr?tement un r?sum? de ma modeste exp?rience.

J'aimerais que les NREN et notamment WACREN, UBUNTUNET contribuent un
peu plus ? pousser le d?veloppement d'IPv6 dans les milieux universitaires.
De mon point de vue c'est ?normal? que nos universit?s exploitent et
travaillent sur ce protocole et son d?veloppement. Tout comme au passage
DNSSEC, DANE et tout qui est fait au niveau de l'IETF...


-- 
Willy Ted MANGA
Responsable Technique R?gional | DRACGL
https://www.auf.org/afrique-centrale-grands-lacs/


From mukom.tamon at gmail.com  Tue Mar 13 19:06:38 2018
From: mukom.tamon at gmail.com (Mukom Akong T.)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 23:06:38 +0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 packets from Chad
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2018-03-13 14:25 GMT+04:00 Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer at nic.fr>:

> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 09:29:59AM +0000,
>  Maye Diop <mayediop at gmail.com> wrote
>  a message of 231 lines which said:
>
> > C'est la raison pour laquelle, ISOC-SN a d?cid? d'organiser en
> > collaboration avec Afrinic, un atelier d?di? aux managers intitul?
> "*Driving
> > IPv6 in Senegal from Management", du 02 au 06 Mai 2018.*
> >
> > L'objectif est de sensibiliser les Managers des services de l'Etat, du
> > R?gulateur, des Universit?s et surtout du Secteur priv?
>
> D'un autre c?t?, les d?ploiements techniques n'ont pas forc?ment
> besoin de la participation des managers. Les techniciens peuvent
> activer IPv6 tout seuls. Si le manager est indiff?rent ? cette
> question, il ne faut pas le consid?rer comme un obstacle.
>


In some cases, the manager doesn't care and the engineers can go ahead and
start some kind of IPv6 deployment. In my experience, the only kind of
engineers who tend to do this are IT manager types. And in almost all
cases, their 'deployments' are never company-wide (i.e. down to the
customer but rather pieces like "get a block", "announce it", "enable the
core" and they generally stop there.


When an engineer isn't at that level, they still need authorisation to

- effect changes on the network
- change a piece of equipment
- liaise with other teams or departments

it's not just money (to buy things, to get trained), it's also the time and
other priorities.

The survey we did last year ... "lack of management support" was by far the
number 1 challenge (or 'excuse' ) engineers identified.

I am yet to see any significant kind of deploymen that was

a) Led by an engineer who isn't 'mangement' type
b) Didn't get the full support of management

Sure we'll be tackling management training ...and we'll see if that's
indeed a challenge or an excuse.

-- 

Mukom Akong T.

LinkedIn:Mukom <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mukom>  |  twitter:
@perfexcellent


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From mayediop at gmail.com  Wed Mar 14 16:47:49 2018
From: mayediop at gmail.com (Maye Diop)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 16:47:49 +0000
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 packets from Chad
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+1

2018-03-13 19:06 GMT+00:00 Mukom Akong T. <mukom.tamon at gmail.com>:

>
>
> 2018-03-13 14:25 GMT+04:00 Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer at nic.fr>:
>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 09:29:59AM +0000,
>>  Maye Diop <mayediop at gmail.com> wrote
>>  a message of 231 lines which said:
>>
>> > C'est la raison pour laquelle, ISOC-SN a d?cid? d'organiser en
>> > collaboration avec Afrinic, un atelier d?di? aux managers intitul?
>> "*Driving
>> > IPv6 in Senegal from Management", du 02 au 06 Mai 2018.*
>> >
>> > L'objectif est de sensibiliser les Managers des services de l'Etat, du
>> > R?gulateur, des Universit?s et surtout du Secteur priv?
>>
>> D'un autre c?t?, les d?ploiements techniques n'ont pas forc?ment
>> besoin de la participation des managers. Les techniciens peuvent
>> activer IPv6 tout seuls. Si le manager est indiff?rent ? cette
>> question, il ne faut pas le consid?rer comme un obstacle.
>>
>
>
> In some cases, the manager doesn't care and the engineers can go ahead and
> start some kind of IPv6 deployment. In my experience, the only kind of
> engineers who tend to do this are IT manager types. And in almost all
> cases, their 'deployments' are never company-wide (i.e. down to the
> customer but rather pieces like "get a block", "announce it", "enable the
> core" and they generally stop there.
>
>
> When an engineer isn't at that level, they still need authorisation to
>
> - effect changes on the network
> - change a piece of equipment
> - liaise with other teams or departments
>
> it's not just money (to buy things, to get trained), it's also the time
> and other priorities.
>
> The survey we did last year ... "lack of management support" was by far
> the number 1 challenge (or 'excuse' ) engineers identified.
>
> I am yet to see any significant kind of deploymen that was
>
> a) Led by an engineer who isn't 'mangement' type
> b) Didn't get the full support of management
>
> Sure we'll be tackling management training ...and we'll see if that's
> indeed a challenge or an excuse.
>
> --
>
> Mukom Akong T.
>
> LinkedIn:Mukom <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mukom>  |  twitter:
> @perfexcellent
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------
> ?When you work, you are the FLUTE through whose lungs the whispering of
> the hours turns to MUSIC" - Kahlil Gibran
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> -------------------
>



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From lee.howard at retevia.net  Wed Mar 14 17:15:22 2018
From: lee.howard at retevia.net (Lee Howard)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:15:22 -0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 packets from Chad
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> 2018-03-13 19:06 GMT+00:00 Mukom Akong T. <mukom.tamon at gmail.com 
> <mailto:mukom.tamon at gmail.com>>:
>
>
>
>     2018-03-13 14:25 GMT+04:00 Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer at nic.fr
>     <mailto:bortzmeyer at nic.fr>>:
>
>         On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 09:29:59AM +0000,
>         ?Maye Diop <mayediop at gmail.com <mailto:mayediop at gmail.com>> wrote
>         ?a message of 231 lines which said:
>
>         > C'est la raison pour laquelle, ISOC-SN a d?cid? d'organiser en
>         > collaboration avec Afrinic, un atelier d?di? aux managers
>         intitul? "*Driving
>         > IPv6 in Senegal from Management", du 02 au 06 Mai 2018.*
>         >
>         > L'objectif est de sensibiliser les Managers des services de
>         l'Etat, du
>         > R?gulateur, des Universit?s et surtout du Secteur priv?
>
>         D'un autre c?t?, les d?ploiements techniques n'ont pas forc?ment
>         besoin de la participation des managers. Les techniciens peuvent
>         activer IPv6 tout seuls. Si le manager est indiff?rent ? cette
>         question, il ne faut pas le consid?rer comme un obstacle.
>
>
>
>     In some cases, the manager doesn't care and the engineers can go
>     ahead and start some kind of IPv6 deployment. In my experience,
>     the only kind of engineers who tend to do this are IT manager
>     types. And in almost all cases, their 'deployments' are never
>     company-wide (i.e. down to the customer but rather pieces like
>     "get a block", "announce it", "enable the core" and they generally
>     stop there.
>

Yes, I've spoken to a number of ISPs who have deployed IPv6 in the core, 
and keep asking for deployment to the edge devices, and for updates to 
the provisioning systems.

>
>
>     Sure we'll be tackling management training ...and we'll see if
>     that's indeed a challenge or an excuse.
>

Feels like a valid challenge to me. If you make changes to a production 
edge router, and something goes wrong, you can be fired. If you ignore 
what your manager tells you to work on, and work on IPv6 instead, you 
can be fired. If you spend some hours working on IPv6, and don't 
complete another project on time. . .? you see what I mean?

No project can succeed without management support.
Good managers are aware of their limited resources, including money and 
hours of work, so they have to prioritize.
In my experience, it's cheaper to have a two-year (or five-year !?!) 
plan that is "add IPv6 whenever you touch something" rather than a six 
month plan to get everything done all at once.

If every manager would figure out how long they can last before running 
out of IPv4 addresses, and how long before there's something they want 
that requires IPv6, I would be happy.
If they would figure out how long it will take them to deploy IPv6, I 
would be happier.
If they would figure out when they need to start before they need to 
start, I would be in bliss.

Lee


>     -- 
>
>     Mukom Akong T.
>
>     LinkedIn:Mukom <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mukom> ?| ?twitter:
>     @perfexcellent
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     ?When you work, you are the FLUTE through whose lungs the
>     whispering of the hours turns to MUSIC" - Kahlil Gibran
>     -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> ---------------------
> Mme Nd?ye Maimouna DIOP
> Sp?cialiste ICT4D
>
>
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From brice at afrinic.net  Wed Mar 21 14:56:52 2018
From: brice at afrinic.net (Brice ABBA)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 18:56:52 +0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] =?utf-8?q?Is_Your_IPv6_Space_Still_Unannounced?=
 =?utf-8?q?=3F_Here=E2=80=99s_your_chance_to_fix_it!?=
Message-ID: <18a18659-ca2b-7da3-6054-e42a3e14e847@afrinic.net>

**Fran?ai**s en bas****
Hi colleagues, While not every IPv6 prefix (even the legacy IPv4 ones
for that matter) need to be globally announced, most need to be. There?s
a significant number of IPv6 prefixes from our region that is currently
unannounced. If you have IPv6 space and don?t announce it design|choice,
then this mail isn?t for you. This message is also NOT for you if you

  * don?t already have IPv6 knowledge
  * don?t already have IPv6 address space for your network
  * are not responsible for configuring BGP sessions for your network
  * need proof (at alpha = 0.05) that IPv6 isn?t a buzzword that will go
    away if you bury our head deeper in the sands of IPv4

However, if you haven?t announced it due challenges in one or more of

  * skill and knowledge
  * confidence to push something ?new? without pro guidance
  * time to just sit down and get it done without the distraction of
    other key projects (social media not being one of them :-)

Then we have a solution for you IF you will be at AIS in Dakar. We?ll be
doing a hackathon-style (see that buzzword right there? :-) event with
the following objectives:

 1. Securely announce our IPv6 prefix in a manner consistent with
    industry best practice
 2. Enable IPv6 over your core network to be able to connect a native
    IPv6 customer in the future

This is our response to a recurring challenge from our last IPv6
deployment challenges survey: ?Lack of Confidence? Just to be clear

  * This is not a training workshop (you?ll be DOing 90% of the time in
    a group). If you don?t have IPv6 training, this is NOT for you.
  * This is not a session for arguing ad-infinitum about why some
    $specific_software doesn?t work on IPv6. (aka #6ExcuseCon)

So if you want to securely announce our IPv6 prefix in a manner
consistent with industry best practice, and get ready to natively
connect a native IPv6 customer. If you?d value a having a group of
like-minded engineers with the same mission along with the guidance of
experienced trainers and seasoned IPv6 deployers, then click
https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/744712/lang-en to indicate your
interest. Only 20 seats available. Selection is strict based on how well
you meet the pre-requisites within the registration form. See you in
Dakar? Brice for the AFRINIC IPv6 Deployment Support Team **Fran?ai**s
ici**** Chers coll?gues, Bien que tous les pr?fixes IPv6 (et ceci est
aussi valable pour IPv4) n'aient pas tous besoin d'?tre annonc?s
globalement, la plupart doivent l'?tre. Il y a un nombre important de
pr?fixes IPv6 de notre r?gion qui n'est actuellement pas annonc?. Si
vous avez un espace IPv6 et ne l'annoncez pas par choix de design, alors
ce mail n'est pas pour vous. Ce mail n'est non plus pas pour vous si vous

  * n?avez pas d?j? des connaissances d?IPv6
  * ne disposez pas d?j? d'un bloc d'adresses IPv6 pour votre r?seau
  * n??tes pas responsables de la configuration des sessions BGP de
    votre r?seau
  * avez besoin de preuve (? alpha = 0,05) que IPv6 n'est pas un mot ?
    la mode qui dispara?tra si vous enterrez notre t?te profond?ment
    dans ?le sable? d?IPv4

Cependant, si vous ne l?avez pas encore annonc? ? cause de l?un ou
plusieurs de ces d?fis suivant:

  * la comp?tence et la connaissance
  * la confiance d?executer un projet ?NOUVEAU? sans l?appui dun expert
  * le temps de simplement s'asseoir et de le faire sans la distraction
    d'autres projets cl?s; (les r?seaux sociaux n?en font pas partir :-) )

Alors nous avons une solution pour vous SI vous serez ? l'AIS de Dakar.
Nous allons faire un hackathon avec les objectifs suivants:

 1. Annoncez en toute s?curit? votre pr?fixe IPv6 d'une mani?re conforme
    aux meilleures pratiques en la mati?re
 2. Activer IPv6 sur votre r?seau principal pour pouvoir connecter un
    client IPv6 natif dans un futur proche

Ceci est notre r?ponse ? un d?fi r?current qui est ressorti au terme de
notre derni?re enqu?te sur les d?fis de d?ploiement IPv6: "Manque de
confiance" Pour ?tre clair,

  * Ce n'est pas un atelier de formation (vous allez passer 90% du temps
    dans un groupe). Si vous n'avez pas de connaissances sur IPv6, cet
    ?v?nement n'est pas le v?tre.
  * Ce n'est pas une session pour argumenter ? l?infinie sur les raisons
    pour lesquelles une application sp?cifique ne fonctionne pas sur
    IPv6. (aka #6ExcuseCon)

Donc, si vous souhaitez annoncer notre pr?fixe IPv6 de mani?re s?curis?e
avec les meilleures pratiques en la mati?re, si vous souhaitez ?tre pr?t
? connecter nativement un client IPv6 natif. Si vous tenez ? avoir un
groupe d'ing?nieurs partageant les m?mes id?es avec la m?me mission avec
les conseils de formateurs exp?riment?s et d?experts dans le d?ploiement
d?IPv6, cliquez sur https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/744712/lang-fr
pour indiquer votre int?r?t. Seulement 20 places seront disponibles. La
s?lection est faite en fonction des r?ponses que vous donnez aux
questions pos?s dans le formulaire d'inscription. On se voit ? Dakar?
Brice repr?sentant l'?quipe de support au d?ploiement IPv6 d'AFRINIC

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From mhtguinassou at gmail.com  Wed Mar 21 16:42:45 2018
From: mhtguinassou at gmail.com (TIDJANI Mahamat Adoum)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 16:42:45 +0000
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss]
	=?utf-8?q?Is_Your_IPv6_Space_Still_Unannounced?=
	=?utf-8?q?=3F_Here=E2=80=99s_your_chance_to_fix_it!?=
In-Reply-To: <18a18659-ca2b-7da3-6054-e42a3e14e847@afrinic.net>
References: <18a18659-ca2b-7da3-6054-e42a3e14e847@afrinic.net>
Message-ID: <CAJszmiAFZwkdU2fxZ==Xv4Kd3XWurPcmkDsWX2XZLvC30MQwhg@mail.gmail.com>

Merci et f?licitation pour l'initiative. ?a serait un bon d?part pour
beaucoup d'entre nous

Le mer. 21 mars 2018 15:58, Brice ABBA <brice at afrinic.net> a ?crit :

> **Fran?ai**s en bas****
> Hi colleagues,
>
> While not every IPv6 prefix (even the legacy IPv4 ones for that matter) need to be globally announced, most need to be. There?s a significant number of IPv6 prefixes from our region that is currently unannounced.
>
> If you have IPv6 space and don?t announce it design|choice, then this mail isn?t for you. This message is also NOT for you if you
>
>
>    - don?t already have IPv6 knowledge
>    - don?t already have IPv6 address space for your network
>    - are not responsible for configuring BGP sessions for your network
>    - need proof (at alpha = 0.05) that IPv6 isn?t a buzzword that will go
>    away if you bury our head deeper in the sands of IPv4
>
> However, if you haven?t announced it due challenges in one or more of
>
>
>    - skill and knowledge
>    - confidence to push something ?new? without pro guidance
>    - time to just sit down and get it done without the distraction of
>    other key projects (social media not being one of them :-)
>
>
> Then we have a solution for you IF you will be at AIS in Dakar. We?ll be doing a hackathon-style (see that buzzword right there? :-) event with the following objectives:
>
>
>    1. Securely announce our IPv6 prefix in a manner consistent with
>    industry best practice
>    2. Enable IPv6 over your core network to be able to connect a native
>    IPv6 customer in the future
>
> This is our response to a recurring challenge from  our last IPv6 deployment challenges survey: ?Lack of Confidence?
>
>
> Just to be clear
>
>
>    - This is not a training workshop (you?ll be DOing 90% of the time in
>    a group). If you don?t have IPv6 training, this is NOT for you.
>    - This is not a session for arguing ad-infinitum about why some
>    $specific_software doesn?t work on IPv6. (aka #6ExcuseCon)
>
> So if you want to securely announce our IPv6 prefix in a manner consistent with industry best practice, and get ready to natively connect a native IPv6 customer. If you?d value a having a group of like-minded engineers with the same mission along with the guidance of experienced trainers and seasoned IPv6 deployers, then click
> https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/744712/lang-en
>
> to indicate your interest.  Only 20 seats available. Selection is strict based on how well you meet the pre-requisites within the registration form.
>
>
> See you in Dakar?
>
> Brice for the AFRINIC IPv6 Deployment Support Team
>
>
> **Fran?ai**s ici****
>
> Chers coll?gues,
>
> Bien que tous les pr?fixes IPv6 (et ceci est aussi valable pour IPv4) n'aient pas tous besoin d'?tre annonc?s globalement, la plupart doivent l'?tre. Il y a un nombre important de pr?fixes IPv6 de notre r?gion qui n'est actuellement pas annonc?.
>
> Si vous avez un espace IPv6 et ne l'annoncez pas par choix de design, alors ce mail n'est pas pour vous. Ce mail n'est non plus pas pour vous si vous
>
>
>    - n?avez pas d?j? des connaissances d?IPv6
>    - ne disposez pas d?j? d'un bloc d'adresses IPv6 pour votre r?seau
>    - n??tes pas responsables de la configuration des sessions BGP de
>    votre r?seau
>    - avez besoin de preuve (? alpha = 0,05) que IPv6 n'est pas un mot ?
>    la mode qui dispara?tra si vous enterrez notre t?te profond?ment dans ?le
>    sable? d?IPv4
>
>
> Cependant, si vous ne l?avez pas encore annonc? ? cause de l?un ou plusieurs de ces d?fis suivant:
>
>
>    - la comp?tence et la connaissance
>    - la confiance d?executer un projet ?NOUVEAU? sans l?appui dun expert
>    - le temps de simplement s'asseoir et de le faire sans la distraction
>    d'autres projets cl?s; (les r?seaux sociaux n?en font pas partir :-) )
>
> Alors nous avons une solution pour vous SI vous serez ? l'AIS de Dakar. Nous allons faire un hackathon avec les objectifs suivants:
>
>
>    1. Annoncez en toute s?curit? votre pr?fixe IPv6 d'une mani?re
>    conforme aux meilleures pratiques en la mati?re
>    2. Activer IPv6 sur votre r?seau principal pour pouvoir connecter un
>    client IPv6 natif dans un futur proche
>
>
> Ceci est notre r?ponse ? un d?fi r?current qui est ressorti au terme de notre derni?re enqu?te sur les d?fis de d?ploiement IPv6: "Manque de confiance"
>
>
> Pour ?tre clair,
>
>
>    - Ce n'est pas un atelier de formation (vous allez passer 90% du temps
>    dans un groupe). Si vous n'avez pas de connaissances sur IPv6, cet
>    ?v?nement n'est pas le v?tre.
>    - Ce n'est pas une session pour argumenter ? l?infinie sur les raisons
>    pour lesquelles une application sp?cifique ne fonctionne pas sur IPv6. (aka
>    #6ExcuseCon)
>
> Donc, si vous souhaitez annoncer notre pr?fixe IPv6 de mani?re s?curis?e avec les meilleures pratiques en la mati?re,  si vous souhaitez ?tre pr?t ? connecter nativement un client IPv6 natif. Si vous tenez ? avoir un groupe d'ing?nieurs partageant les m?mes id?es avec la m?me mission avec les conseils de formateurs exp?riment?s et d?experts dans le d?ploiement d?IPv6, cliquez sur
> https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/744712/lang-fr
>
> pour indiquer votre int?r?t. Seulement 20 places seront disponibles. La s?lection est faite en fonction des r?ponses que vous donnez aux questions pos?s dans le formulaire d'inscription.
>
>
> On se voit ? Dakar?
>
> Brice repr?sentant l'?quipe de support au d?ploiement IPv6 d'AFRINIC
>
> _______________________________________________
> AfrIPv6-Discuss mailing list
> AfrIPv6-Discuss at afrinic.net
> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/afripv6-discuss
>
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From daddytalasi at gmail.com  Thu Mar 22 06:26:32 2018
From: daddytalasi at gmail.com (Daddy TALASI KAZIAMA)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 07:26:32 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss]
	=?utf-8?q?Is_Your_IPv6_Space_Still_Unannounced?=
	=?utf-8?q?=3F_Here=E2=80=99s_your_chance_to_fix_it!?=
In-Reply-To: <CAJszmiAFZwkdU2fxZ==Xv4Kd3XWurPcmkDsWX2XZLvC30MQwhg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <18a18659-ca2b-7da3-6054-e42a3e14e847@afrinic.net>
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Message-ID: <CAFGuKMV1iibg=3Hnsrq3p+cHtvb2uD6tOWn0Ezwv5PsM10s9GA@mail.gmail.com>

Brice Merci et f?licitation c'est une bonne id?e, et m?thodologie je pense.

Daddy TALASI

Le 21 mars 2018 ? 17:42, TIDJANI Mahamat Adoum <mhtguinassou at gmail.com> a
?crit :

> Merci et f?licitation pour l'initiative. ?a serait un bon d?part pour
> beaucoup d'entre nous
>
> Le mer. 21 mars 2018 15:58, Brice ABBA <brice at afrinic.net> a ?crit :
>
>> **Fran?ai**s en bas****
>> Hi colleagues,
>>
>> While not every IPv6 prefix (even the legacy IPv4 ones for that matter) need to be globally announced, most need to be. There?s a significant number of IPv6 prefixes from our region that is currently unannounced.
>>
>> If you have IPv6 space and don?t announce it design|choice, then this mail isn?t for you. This message is also NOT for you if you
>>
>>
>>    - don?t already have IPv6 knowledge
>>    - don?t already have IPv6 address space for your network
>>    - are not responsible for configuring BGP sessions for your network
>>    - need proof (at alpha = 0.05) that IPv6 isn?t a buzzword that will
>>    go away if you bury our head deeper in the sands of IPv4
>>
>> However, if you haven?t announced it due challenges in one or more of
>>
>>
>>    - skill and knowledge
>>    - confidence to push something ?new? without pro guidance
>>    - time to just sit down and get it done without the distraction of
>>    other key projects (social media not being one of them :-)
>>
>>
>> Then we have a solution for you IF you will be at AIS in Dakar. We?ll be doing a hackathon-style (see that buzzword right there? :-) event with the following objectives:
>>
>>
>>    1. Securely announce our IPv6 prefix in a manner consistent with
>>    industry best practice
>>    2. Enable IPv6 over your core network to be able to connect a native
>>    IPv6 customer in the future
>>
>> This is our response to a recurring challenge from  our last IPv6 deployment challenges survey: ?Lack of Confidence?
>>
>>
>> Just to be clear
>>
>>
>>    - This is not a training workshop (you?ll be DOing 90% of the time in
>>    a group). If you don?t have IPv6 training, this is NOT for you.
>>    - This is not a session for arguing ad-infinitum about why some
>>    $specific_software doesn?t work on IPv6. (aka #6ExcuseCon)
>>
>> So if you want to securely announce our IPv6 prefix in a manner consistent with industry best practice, and get ready to natively connect a native IPv6 customer. If you?d value a having a group of like-minded engineers with the same mission along with the guidance of experienced trainers and seasoned IPv6 deployers, then click
>> https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/744712/lang-en
>>
>> to indicate your interest.  Only 20 seats available. Selection is strict based on how well you meet the pre-requisites within the registration form.
>>
>>
>> See you in Dakar?
>>
>> Brice for the AFRINIC IPv6 Deployment Support Team
>>
>>
>> **Fran?ai**s ici****
>>
>> Chers coll?gues,
>>
>> Bien que tous les pr?fixes IPv6 (et ceci est aussi valable pour IPv4) n'aient pas tous besoin d'?tre annonc?s globalement, la plupart doivent l'?tre. Il y a un nombre important de pr?fixes IPv6 de notre r?gion qui n'est actuellement pas annonc?.
>>
>> Si vous avez un espace IPv6 et ne l'annoncez pas par choix de design, alors ce mail n'est pas pour vous. Ce mail n'est non plus pas pour vous si vous
>>
>>
>>    - n?avez pas d?j? des connaissances d?IPv6
>>    - ne disposez pas d?j? d'un bloc d'adresses IPv6 pour votre r?seau
>>    - n??tes pas responsables de la configuration des sessions BGP de
>>    votre r?seau
>>    - avez besoin de preuve (? alpha = 0,05) que IPv6 n'est pas un mot ?
>>    la mode qui dispara?tra si vous enterrez notre t?te profond?ment dans ?le
>>    sable? d?IPv4
>>
>>
>> Cependant, si vous ne l?avez pas encore annonc? ? cause de l?un ou plusieurs de ces d?fis suivant:
>>
>>
>>    - la comp?tence et la connaissance
>>    - la confiance d?executer un projet ?NOUVEAU? sans l?appui dun expert
>>    - le temps de simplement s'asseoir et de le faire sans la distraction
>>    d'autres projets cl?s; (les r?seaux sociaux n?en font pas partir :-) )
>>
>> Alors nous avons une solution pour vous SI vous serez ? l'AIS de Dakar. Nous allons faire un hackathon avec les objectifs suivants:
>>
>>
>>    1. Annoncez en toute s?curit? votre pr?fixe IPv6 d'une mani?re
>>    conforme aux meilleures pratiques en la mati?re
>>    2. Activer IPv6 sur votre r?seau principal pour pouvoir connecter un
>>    client IPv6 natif dans un futur proche
>>
>>
>> Ceci est notre r?ponse ? un d?fi r?current qui est ressorti au terme de notre derni?re enqu?te sur les d?fis de d?ploiement IPv6: "Manque de confiance"
>>
>>
>> Pour ?tre clair,
>>
>>
>>    - Ce n'est pas un atelier de formation (vous allez passer 90% du
>>    temps dans un groupe). Si vous n'avez pas de connaissances sur IPv6, cet
>>    ?v?nement n'est pas le v?tre.
>>    - Ce n'est pas une session pour argumenter ? l?infinie sur les
>>    raisons pour lesquelles une application sp?cifique ne fonctionne pas sur
>>    IPv6. (aka #6ExcuseCon)
>>
>> Donc, si vous souhaitez annoncer notre pr?fixe IPv6 de mani?re s?curis?e avec les meilleures pratiques en la mati?re,  si vous souhaitez ?tre pr?t ? connecter nativement un client IPv6 natif. Si vous tenez ? avoir un groupe d'ing?nieurs partageant les m?mes id?es avec la m?me mission avec les conseils de formateurs exp?riment?s et d?experts dans le d?ploiement d?IPv6, cliquez sur
>> https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/744712/lang-fr
>>
>> pour indiquer votre int?r?t. Seulement 20 places seront disponibles. La s?lection est faite en fonction des r?ponses que vous donnez aux questions pos?s dans le formulaire d'inscription.
>>
>>
>> On se voit ? Dakar?
>>
>> Brice repr?sentant l'?quipe de support au d?ploiement IPv6 d'AFRINIC
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> AfrIPv6-Discuss mailing list
>> AfrIPv6-Discuss at afrinic.net
>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/afripv6-discuss
>>
>
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From seeburn.k at gmail.com  Thu Mar 22 12:03:16 2018
From: seeburn.k at gmail.com (Kris Seeburn)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 16:03:16 +0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] AfrIPv6-Discuss Digest, Vol 137, Issue 11
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1521720002.28224.afripv6-discuss@afrinic.net>
References: <mailman.3.1521720002.28224.afripv6-discuss@afrinic.net>
Message-ID: <72717D29-D718-4EC0-BE8E-4DC71D3B14A4@gmail.com>

People,

whether using or not using the space. It?s still good to advertise your space. We must make sure Afrinic has clear view of those space. Although not a policy but it is being done to ensure all resources are accounted for.

Kris

> On Mar 22, 2018, at 16:00, afripv6-discuss-request at afrinic.net wrote:
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>   1. Re: Is Your IPv6 Space Still Unannounced? Here?s your chance
>      to fix it! (Daddy TALASI KAZIAMA)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 07:26:32 +0100
> From: Daddy TALASI KAZIAMA <daddytalasi at gmail.com>
> To: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
> Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Is Your IPv6 Space Still Unannounced?
> 	Here?s your chance to fix it!
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> 
> Brice Merci et f?licitation c'est une bonne id?e, et m?thodologie je pense.
> 
> Daddy TALASI
> 
> Le 21 mars 2018 ? 17:42, TIDJANI Mahamat Adoum <mhtguinassou at gmail.com> a
> ?crit :
> 
>> Merci et f?licitation pour l'initiative. ?a serait un bon d?part pour
>> beaucoup d'entre nous
>> 
>> Le mer. 21 mars 2018 15:58, Brice ABBA <brice at afrinic.net> a ?crit :
>> 
>>> **Fran?ai**s en bas****
>>> Hi colleagues,
>>> 
>>> While not every IPv6 prefix (even the legacy IPv4 ones for that matter) need to be globally announced, most need to be. There?s a significant number of IPv6 prefixes from our region that is currently unannounced.
>>> 
>>> If you have IPv6 space and don?t announce it design|choice, then this mail isn?t for you. This message is also NOT for you if you
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   - don?t already have IPv6 knowledge
>>>   - don?t already have IPv6 address space for your network
>>>   - are not responsible for configuring BGP sessions for your network
>>>   - need proof (at alpha = 0.05) that IPv6 isn?t a buzzword that will
>>>   go away if you bury our head deeper in the sands of IPv4
>>> 
>>> However, if you haven?t announced it due challenges in one or more of
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   - skill and knowledge
>>>   - confidence to push something ?new? without pro guidance
>>>   - time to just sit down and get it done without the distraction of
>>>   other key projects (social media not being one of them :-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Then we have a solution for you IF you will be at AIS in Dakar. We?ll be doing a hackathon-style (see that buzzword right there? :-) event with the following objectives:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   1. Securely announce our IPv6 prefix in a manner consistent with
>>>   industry best practice
>>>   2. Enable IPv6 over your core network to be able to connect a native
>>>   IPv6 customer in the future
>>> 
>>> This is our response to a recurring challenge from  our last IPv6 deployment challenges survey: ?Lack of Confidence?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Just to be clear
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   - This is not a training workshop (you?ll be DOing 90% of the time in
>>>   a group). If you don?t have IPv6 training, this is NOT for you.
>>>   - This is not a session for arguing ad-infinitum about why some
>>>   $specific_software doesn?t work on IPv6. (aka #6ExcuseCon)
>>> 
>>> So if you want to securely announce our IPv6 prefix in a manner consistent with industry best practice, and get ready to natively connect a native IPv6 customer. If you?d value a having a group of like-minded engineers with the same mission along with the guidance of experienced trainers and seasoned IPv6 deployers, then click
>>> https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/744712/lang-en
>>> 
>>> to indicate your interest.  Only 20 seats available. Selection is strict based on how well you meet the pre-requisites within the registration form.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> See you in Dakar?
>>> 
>>> Brice for the AFRINIC IPv6 Deployment Support Team
>>> 
>>> 
>>> **Fran?ai**s ici****
>>> 
>>> Chers coll?gues,
>>> 
>>> Bien que tous les pr?fixes IPv6 (et ceci est aussi valable pour IPv4) n'aient pas tous besoin d'?tre annonc?s globalement, la plupart doivent l'?tre. Il y a un nombre important de pr?fixes IPv6 de notre r?gion qui n'est actuellement pas annonc?.
>>> 
>>> Si vous avez un espace IPv6 et ne l'annoncez pas par choix de design, alors ce mail n'est pas pour vous. Ce mail n'est non plus pas pour vous si vous
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   - n?avez pas d?j? des connaissances d?IPv6
>>>   - ne disposez pas d?j? d'un bloc d'adresses IPv6 pour votre r?seau
>>>   - n??tes pas responsables de la configuration des sessions BGP de
>>>   votre r?seau
>>>   - avez besoin de preuve (? alpha = 0,05) que IPv6 n'est pas un mot ?
>>>   la mode qui dispara?tra si vous enterrez notre t?te profond?ment dans ?le
>>>   sable? d?IPv4
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cependant, si vous ne l?avez pas encore annonc? ? cause de l?un ou plusieurs de ces d?fis suivant:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   - la comp?tence et la connaissance
>>>   - la confiance d?executer un projet ?NOUVEAU? sans l?appui dun expert
>>>   - le temps de simplement s'asseoir et de le faire sans la distraction
>>>   d'autres projets cl?s; (les r?seaux sociaux n?en font pas partir :-) )
>>> 
>>> Alors nous avons une solution pour vous SI vous serez ? l'AIS de Dakar. Nous allons faire un hackathon avec les objectifs suivants:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   1. Annoncez en toute s?curit? votre pr?fixe IPv6 d'une mani?re
>>>   conforme aux meilleures pratiques en la mati?re
>>>   2. Activer IPv6 sur votre r?seau principal pour pouvoir connecter un
>>>   client IPv6 natif dans un futur proche
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ceci est notre r?ponse ? un d?fi r?current qui est ressorti au terme de notre derni?re enqu?te sur les d?fis de d?ploiement IPv6: "Manque de confiance"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Pour ?tre clair,
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   - Ce n'est pas un atelier de formation (vous allez passer 90% du
>>>   temps dans un groupe). Si vous n'avez pas de connaissances sur IPv6, cet
>>>   ?v?nement n'est pas le v?tre.
>>>   - Ce n'est pas une session pour argumenter ? l?infinie sur les
>>>   raisons pour lesquelles une application sp?cifique ne fonctionne pas sur
>>>   IPv6. (aka #6ExcuseCon)
>>> 
>>> Donc, si vous souhaitez annoncer notre pr?fixe IPv6 de mani?re s?curis?e avec les meilleures pratiques en la mati?re,  si vous souhaitez ?tre pr?t ? connecter nativement un client IPv6 natif. Si vous tenez ? avoir un groupe d'ing?nieurs partageant les m?mes id?es avec la m?me mission avec les conseils de formateurs exp?riment?s et d?experts dans le d?ploiement d?IPv6, cliquez sur
>>> https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/744712/lang-fr
>>> 
>>> pour indiquer votre int?r?t. Seulement 20 places seront disponibles. La s?lection est faite en fonction des r?ponses que vous donnez aux questions pos?s dans le formulaire d'inscription.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On se voit ? Dakar?
>>> 
>>> Brice repr?sentant l'?quipe de support au d?ploiement IPv6 d'AFRINIC
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> AfrIPv6-Discuss mailing list
>>> AfrIPv6-Discuss at afrinic.net
>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/afripv6-discuss
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From abscoco at gmail.com  Fri Mar 23 12:18:54 2018
From: abscoco at gmail.com (Sylvain BAYA)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2018 13:18:54 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] =?utf-8?q?_Is_Your_IPv6_Space_Still_Unannounced?=
 =?utf-8?q?=3F_Here=E2=80=99s_your_chance_to_fix_it!?=
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Message-ID: <26f63b34-0581-2044-1ec5-3af5d0f57e62@gmail.com>

Salut Brice,

Merci, ? l'?quipe, d'AFRINIC, en charge du Renforcement des Capacit?s de
la Communaut? Technique Africaine, pour l'initiative de ce projet qui
m'apparait comme une innovation pour plusieurs raisons :

* Voil? un moyen de partage d'exp?riences entre utilisateurs de la pile
TCP/IPv6, d'une part et qui servira comme Cas d'Etude concret pour ceux
qui sont encore sur la ligne de d?part;

* C'est un HackAton, de type "NetHAton", entre des profils
d'exp?riment?s du d?ploiement IPv6;

* C'est une opportunit? pour les participants distants de suivre pas ?
pas l'?quipe de leur choix, dans ses configurations ;

* C'est aussi un moyen d'?tablir un mod?le de TP (Travaux Pratiques) qui
pourrait aider les acad?mies d'Ing?nierie R?seaux ? mieux pr?parer des
techniciens et ing?nieurs orient?s IPv6;

* ...

Ces observations faites, je souhaiterais solliciter de la part de
l'?quipe du projet, les quelques id?es suivantes :

* Ce projet est une bonne exp?rience qui reste perfectible;

* Si vous pr?voyez un Looking Glass, pour nous qui ne seront pas avec
vous, ce sera merveilleux (voir NLNOG RING  | https://ring.nlnog.net/);

* Penser ? cr?er un Wiki, sur lequel vous pourrez inviter vos premiers
participants ? collaborer pour b?tir ensemble un bon mod?le de
"NetHAton" pour les Acad?mies, les NOGs locaux et autres Communaut?s
int?ress?es par l'Ing?nierie R?seaux;

* Encourager chaque candidat ? pr?senter un cas d'?tude, de d?ploiement
au sein de son infrastructure et de s'engager ? r?diger, chacun, un
article de type partage d'exp?rience au terme du "NetHAton"; qui
pourront ?tre post?s sur un blog pr?par? pour pr?senter l'?volution de
l'adoption et du d?ploiement d'IPv6 en Afrique, genre :
"IPv6DeployTimeLine";

* Si l'on veut marquer plus d'impact sur nos r?seaux, nous devons nous
orienter FLOSS. Dans ce cas, c'est de pr?parer le mat?riels de travail
(mod?les de fichiers de configuration ? personnaliser) avec la d?marche
proc?durale, et rendre le travail disponible, via un d?p?t Git, sous une
licence libre, d?s que tout est pr?t;

* L'automatisation du d?ploiement devrait aussi ?tre pris en compte et
encore, le modelage et la transportation de mod?le personnalisable.
Ainsi, Ansible et Docker avec VirtualBox et peut-?tre GNS3, sans
chercher ? influencer quoi que ce soit sur la structure de vos bancs
d'essai actuels (Banc d'essai IPv6 - AFRINIC Training
<https://www.google.cm/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwiRx4KI3f_ZAhVLm5QKHZsyCmIQFggnMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Flearn.afrinic.net%2Ffr%2Fevenements%2Fbook-ipv6-testbed&usg=AOvVaw1N7EXQmr3teJ7vpAwMSY3h>|
learn.afrinic.net/fr/evenements/book-ipv6-testbed ).


Courage, nous vous suivons avec attention.
Cordialement,
--sb.

<#LASAINTEBIBLE|#Philippiens3:8"/Et m?me je regarde toutes choses comme une perte, ? cause de
l'excellence de la connaissance de J?sus-Christ mon Seigneur, pour
lequel j'ai renonc? ? tout, et je les regarde comme de la boue, afin de
gagner Christ,/">

 
Le 3/21/2018 ? 3:56 PM, Brice ABBA a ?crit :
> **Fran?ai**s en bas****
> Hi colleagues, [...]
> Donc, si vous souhaitez annoncer notre pr?fixe IPv6 de mani?re
> s?curis?e avec les meilleures pratiques en la mati?re, si vous
> souhaitez ?tre pr?t ? connecter nativement un client IPv6 natif. Si
> vous tenez ? avoir un groupe d'ing?nieurs partageant les m?mes id?es
> avec la m?me mission avec les conseils de formateurs exp?riment?s et
> d?experts dans le d?ploiement d?IPv6, cliquez sur
> https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/744712/lang-fr pour indiquer
> votre int?r?t. Seulement 20 places seront disponibles. La s?lection
> est faite en fonction des r?ponses que vous donnez aux questions pos?s
> dans le formulaire d'inscription. On se voit ? Dakar? Brice
> repr?sentant l'?quipe de support au d?ploiement IPv6 d'AFRINIC
>
> _______________________________________________
> AfrIPv6-Discuss mailing list
> AfrIPv6-Discuss at afrinic.net
> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/afripv6-discuss

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From bruno.stevant at gmail.com  Mon Mar 26 08:07:55 2018
From: bruno.stevant at gmail.com (Bruno Stevant)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 08:07:55 +0000
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss]
	=?utf-8?q?Is_Your_IPv6_Space_Still_Unannounced?=
	=?utf-8?q?=3F_Here=E2=80=99s_your_chance_to_fix_it!?=
In-Reply-To: <26f63b34-0581-2044-1ec5-3af5d0f57e62@gmail.com>
References: <18a18659-ca2b-7da3-6054-e42a3e14e847@afrinic.net>
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Message-ID: <CAP93QwCpY8_0d3eZt8p+pC5tra=96zEVZ1Wo2crvzhOTF4SeLw@mail.gmail.com>

>
> * L'automatisation du d?ploiement devrait aussi ?tre pris en compte et
> encore, le modelage et la transportation de mod?le personnalisable. Ainsi,
> Ansible et Docker avec VirtualBox et peut-?tre GNS3, sans chercher ?
> influencer quoi que ce soit sur la structure de vos bancs d'essai actuels (Banc
> d'essai IPv6 - AFRINIC Training
> <https://www.google.cm/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwiRx4KI3f_ZAhVLm5QKHZsyCmIQFggnMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Flearn.afrinic.net%2Ffr%2Fevenements%2Fbook-ipv6-testbed&usg=AOvVaw1N7EXQmr3teJ7vpAwMSY3h>
> | learn.afrinic.net/fr/evenements/book-ipv6-testbed ).
>

Bonjour,

Sur ce point, je tiens ? vous informer de la disponibilit? d'un projet
initi? lors d'un hackathon RIPE-NCC :
https://github.com/inognet/pocketinternet
Ce projet a notamment ?t? pr?vu pour faire un mini-lab IPv6/BGP o? les
h?tes et routeurs sont virtualis?s sous forme de container.





>
> Courage, nous vous suivons avec attention.
> Cordialement,
> --sb.
>
> <#LASAINTEBIBLE|#Philippiens3:8"*Et m?me je regarde toutes choses comme une perte, ? cause de l'excellence de la connaissance de J?sus-Christ mon Seigneur, pour lequel j'ai renonc? ? tout, et je les regarde comme de la boue, afin de gagner Christ,*">
>
>
> Le 3/21/2018 ? 3:56 PM, Brice ABBA a ?crit :
>
> **Fran?ai**s en bas****
> Hi colleagues,
>
> [...]
>
> Donc, si vous souhaitez annoncer notre pr?fixe IPv6 de mani?re s?curis?e avec les meilleures pratiques en la mati?re,  si vous souhaitez ?tre pr?t ? connecter nativement un client IPv6 natif. Si vous tenez ? avoir un groupe d'ing?nieurs partageant les m?mes id?es avec la m?me mission avec les conseils de formateurs exp?riment?s et d?experts dans le d?ploiement d?IPv6, cliquez sur
> https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/744712/lang-fr
>
> pour indiquer votre int?r?t. Seulement 20 places seront disponibles. La s?lection est faite en fonction des r?ponses que vous donnez aux questions pos?s dans le formulaire d'inscription.
>
>
> On se voit ? Dakar?
>
> Brice repr?sentant l'?quipe de support au d?ploiement IPv6 d'AFRINIC
>
> _______________________________________________
> AfrIPv6-Discuss mailing listAfrIPv6-Discuss at afrinic.nethttps://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/afripv6-discuss
>
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From nishal at controlfreak.co.za  Mon Mar 26 10:00:59 2018
From: nishal at controlfreak.co.za (Nishal Goburdhan)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 12:00:59 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss]
 =?utf-8?q?Is_Your_IPv6_Space_Still_Unannounced?=
 =?utf-8?q?=3F_Here=E2=80=99s_your_chance_to_fix_it!?=
In-Reply-To: <CAP93QwCpY8_0d3eZt8p+pC5tra=96zEVZ1Wo2crvzhOTF4SeLw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <18a18659-ca2b-7da3-6054-e42a3e14e847@afrinic.net>
 <26f63b34-0581-2044-1ec5-3af5d0f57e62@gmail.com>
 <CAP93QwCpY8_0d3eZt8p+pC5tra=96zEVZ1Wo2crvzhOTF4SeLw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1A6CBE74-AA29-46BD-A631-88592C04A00F@controlfreak.co.za>

On 26 Mar 2018, at 10:07, Bruno Stevant wrote:

>> * L'automatisation du d?ploiement devrait aussi ?tre pris en compte 
>> et
>> encore, le modelage et la transportation de mod?le personnalisable. 
>> Ainsi,
>> Ansible et Docker avec VirtualBox et peut-?tre GNS3, sans chercher 
>> ?
>> influencer quoi que ce soit sur la structure de vos bancs d'essai 
>> actuels (Banc
>> d'essai IPv6 - AFRINIC Training
>> <https://www.google.cm/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwiRx4KI3f_ZAhVLm5QKHZsyCmIQFggnMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Flearn.afrinic.net%2Ffr%2Fevenements%2Fbook-ipv6-testbed&usg=AOvVaw1N7EXQmr3teJ7vpAwMSY3h>
>> | learn.afrinic.net/fr/evenements/book-ipv6-testbed ).
>>
>
> Bonjour,
>
> Sur ce point, je tiens ? vous informer de la disponibilit? d'un 
> projet
> initi? lors d'un hackathon RIPE-NCC :
> https://github.com/inognet/pocketinternet
> Ce projet a notamment ?t? pr?vu pour faire un mini-lab IPv6/BGP o? 
> les
> h?tes et routeurs sont virtualis?s sous forme de container.


mukom is on a plane somewhere, and he will likely feedback in more 
detail when he is on the ground, but the idea is not so much to have 
this work in a *lab*, but to make it work on your actual network.

lab sims are great;  if you want to get that done, go ahead :-)
but from what he explained to me, the idea behind this ?deployathon? 
is to have network operators take that final step to actually get their 
network space announced, and to turn up, at least one live service on 
ipv6.

that?s why the entry criteria for this this workshop, are different 
from the regular IPv6 workshops that afrinic runs.

?n.


From tamon at afrinic.net  Mon Mar 26 14:18:42 2018
From: tamon at afrinic.net (Mukom Akong T)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 15:18:42 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Is Your IPv6 Space Still Unannounced?
 =?utf-8?Q?Here=E2=80=99s_?=your chance to fix it!
In-Reply-To: <1A6CBE74-AA29-46BD-A631-88592C04A00F@controlfreak.co.za>
References: <18a18659-ca2b-7da3-6054-e42a3e14e847@afrinic.net>
 <26f63b34-0581-2044-1ec5-3af5d0f57e62@gmail.com>
 <CAP93QwCpY8_0d3eZt8p+pC5tra=96zEVZ1Wo2crvzhOTF4SeLw@mail.gmail.com>
 <1A6CBE74-AA29-46BD-A631-88592C04A00F@controlfreak.co.za>
Message-ID: <06e02e36-9283-41c0-94b7-29664010a7bb@Spark>

Thank you Nishal for the clarification.

Indeed, this is NOT going to be a training session. The objective is ? your unannounced IPv6 prefix announced from your real network.


Any labs (GNS3, Docker, EVE-ng, ?etc or even?AFRINIC?s extensive testbed) will only serve for PROTOYPING as step towards making changes to the production network.



We assume (and it?s a pre-requisite) that anyone who qualifies already has a testing environment to use before deploying things into production (that?s if your network change policy requires that).


For those that have been selected, they?ll get personalised instructions about what to do to make it possible to implement the objective .. live on the network.


And for that reason, we are only looking for the people who are responsible for making network changes in their real networks.

On 26 Mar 2018, 11:04 +0100, Nishal Goburdhan <nishal at controlfreak.co.za>, wrote:
> On 26 Mar 2018, at 10:07, Bruno Stevant wrote:
>
> > > * L'automatisation du d?ploiement devrait aussi ?tre pris en compte
> > > et
> > > encore, le modelage et la transportation de mod?le personnalisable.
> > > Ainsi,
> > > Ansible et Docker avec VirtualBox et peut-?tre GNS3, sans chercher
> > > ?
> > > influencer quoi que ce soit sur la structure de vos bancs d'essai
> > > actuels (Banc
> > > d'essai IPv6 - AFRINIC Training
> > > <https://www.google.cm/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwiRx4KI3f_ZAhVLm5QKHZsyCmIQFggnMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Flearn.afrinic.net%2Ffr%2Fevenements%2Fbook-ipv6-testbed&usg=AOvVaw1N7EXQmr3teJ7vpAwMSY3h
> > > | learn.afrinic.net/fr/evenements/book-ipv6-testbed ).
> > >
> >
> > Bonjour,
> >
> > Sur ce point, je tiens ? vous informer de la disponibilit? d'un
> > projet
> > initi? lors d'un hackathon RIPE-NCC :
> > https://github.com/inognet/pocketinternet
> > Ce projet a notamment ?t? pr?vu pour faire un mini-lab IPv6/BGP o?
> > les
> > h?tes et routeurs sont virtualis?s sous forme de container.
>
>
> mukom is on a plane somewhere, and he will likely feedback in more
> detail when he is on the ground, but the idea is not so much to have
> this work in a *lab*, but to make it work on your actual network.
>
> lab sims are great; if you want to get that done, go ahead :-)
> but from what he explained to me, the idea behind this ?deployathon?
> is to have network operators take that final step to actually get their
> network space announced, and to turn up, at least one live service on
> ipv6.
>
> that?s why the entry criteria for this this workshop, are different
> from the regular IPv6 workshops that afrinic runs.
>
> ?n.
>
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From abscoco at gmail.com  Mon Mar 26 21:58:05 2018
From: abscoco at gmail.com (Sylvain BAYA)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 22:58:05 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss]
 =?utf-8?q?Is_Your_IPv6_Space_Still_Unannounced?=
 =?utf-8?q?=3F_Here=E2=80=99s_your_chance_to_fix_it!?=
In-Reply-To: <CAP93QwCpY8_0d3eZt8p+pC5tra=96zEVZ1Wo2crvzhOTF4SeLw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <18a18659-ca2b-7da3-6054-e42a3e14e847@afrinic.net>
 <26f63b34-0581-2044-1ec5-3af5d0f57e62@gmail.com>
 <CAP93QwCpY8_0d3eZt8p+pC5tra=96zEVZ1Wo2crvzhOTF4SeLw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55efb93e-f78e-28cc-79e9-8cffd8fef817@gmail.com>

Cher Bruno,


Le 3/26/2018 ? 9:07 AM, Bruno Stevant a ?crit :
>
>     * L'automatisation du d?ploiement devrait aussi ?tre pris en
>     compte et encore, le modelage et la transportation de mod?le
>     personnalisable. Ainsi, Ansible et Docker avec VirtualBox et
>     peut-?tre GNS3, sans chercher ? influencer quoi que ce soit sur la
>     structure de vos bancs d'essai actuels (Banc d'essai IPv6 -
>     AFRINIC Training
>     <https://www.google.cm/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwiRx4KI3f_ZAhVLm5QKHZsyCmIQFggnMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Flearn.afrinic.net%2Ffr%2Fevenements%2Fbook-ipv6-testbed&usg=AOvVaw1N7EXQmr3teJ7vpAwMSY3h>|
>     learn.afrinic.net/fr/evenements/book-ipv6-testbed
>     <http://learn.afrinic.net/fr/evenements/book-ipv6-testbed> ).
>
>
> Bonjour,
>
> Sur ce point, je tiens ? vous informer de la disponibilit? d'un projet
> initi? lors d'un hackathon RIPE-NCC :
> https://github.com/inognet/pocketinternet
> Ce projet a notamment ?t? pr?vu pour faire un mini-lab IPv6/BGP o? les
> h?tes et routeurs sont virtualis?s sous forme de container.
>
>
Merci pour cette pr?cieuse information, je n'ai pas vu passer cet
int?ressant projet de iNOG :-)
Je suis toujours int?ress? par des solutions alternatives, mais
suffisamment intelligentes et innovantes pour actionner des avanc?es
m?me ? petits pas. En effet, ? mon sens, ce qui compte finalement c'est
d'avoir un cadre/outillage technique d'expression transportable ou
reproductible. Et encore, si c'est libre et ouvert c'est parfait.

Pour revenir ? l'initiative r?gionale, annonc?e en entame de ce fil de
discussion, Je ne doute pas que tout aie ?t? aussi fait suivant de
bonnes pratiques d'optimisation; mais aussi de minimalisation en entame.
Donc, on va commencer par savourer cette nouvelle formule prometteuse,
en encourageant l'?quipe du Capacity Building, puis on reviendra, en
parler, ? l'?valuation si DIEU nous l'accorde.

Cordialement,
--sb.

<#LASAINTEBIBLE|#Philippiens3:8"/Et m?me je regarde toutes choses comme une perte, ? cause de
l'excellence de la connaissance de J?sus-Christ mon Seigneur, pour
lequel j'ai renonc? ? tout, et je les regarde comme de la boue, afin de
gagner Christ,/">


> [...]



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From latif at ladid.lu  Wed Mar 28 20:41:03 2018
From: latif at ladid.lu (Latif LADID [IPv6-based Internet])
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 22:41:03 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 Roadmap for Algeria
Message-ID: <04d901d3c6d5$180b8c20$4822a460$@ladid.lu>

Bruno,

 

I just came back from Alegria invited by the Armed Forces to consult them  on IPv6 and Cybersecurity.

 

I would like to send me some text to enable them to issue a call for a proposal for the IPv6 deployment in Algeria and hopefully to get the project and work together on it.

 

Cheers

Latif

 

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From latif at ladid.lu  Wed Mar 28 21:31:47 2018
From: latif at ladid.lu (Latif LADID [IPv6-based Internet])
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 23:31:47 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 Roadmap for Algeria
In-Reply-To: <04d901d3c6d5$180b8c20$4822a460$@ladid.lu>
References: <04d901d3c6d5$180b8c20$4822a460$@ladid.lu>
Message-ID: <04f101d3c6dc$2db99c40$892cd4c0$@ladid.lu>

Folks,

 

This was not meant for this list. 

 

My apologies.

 

Cheers

Latif

 

From: Latif LADID [IPv6-based Internet] <latif at ladid.lu> 
Sent: 28 March 2018 22:41
To: 'IPv6 in Africa Discussions' <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 Roadmap for Algeria

 

Bruno,

 

I just came back from Alegria invited by the Armed Forces to consult them  on IPv6 and Cybersecurity.

 

I would like to send me some text to enable them to issue a call for a proposal for the IPv6 deployment in Algeria and hopefully to get the project and work together on it.

 

Cheers

Latif

 

 

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From brice at afrinic.net  Mon Apr  2 16:14:44 2018
From: brice at afrinic.net (Brice ABBA)
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 20:14:44 +0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] =?utf-8?q?REMINDER=3A_Is_Your_IPv6_Space_Still_?=
 =?utf-8?q?Unannounced=3F_Here=E2=80=99s_your_chance_to_fix_it!?=
Message-ID: <b0ef9fc7-a9b0-556a-9461-9d5386712e0e@afrinic.net>

**Fran?ai**s en bas****
Hi colleagues, While not every IPv6 prefix (even the legacy IPv4 ones
for that matter) need to be globally announced, most need to be. There?s
a significant number of IPv6 prefixes from our region that is currently
unannounced. If you have IPv6 space and don?t announce it design|choice,
then this mail isn?t for you. This message is also NOT for you if you

  * don?t already have IPv6 knowledge
  * don?t already have IPv6 address space for your network
  * are not responsible for configuring BGP sessions for your network
  * need proof (at alpha = 0.05) that IPv6 isn?t a buzzword that will go
    away if you bury our head deeper in the sands of IPv4

However, if you haven?t announced it due challenges in one or more of

  * skill and knowledge
  * confidence to push something ?new? without pro guidance
  * time to just sit down and get it done without the distraction of
    other key projects (social media not being one of them :-)

Then we have a solution for you IF you will be at AIS in Dakar. We?ll be
doing a hackathon-style (see that buzzword right there? :-) event with
the following objectives:

 1. Securely announce our IPv6 prefix in a manner consistent with
    industry best practice
 2. Enable IPv6 over your core network to be able to connect a native
    IPv6 customer in the future

This is our response to a recurring challenge from our last IPv6
deployment challenges survey: ?Lack of Confidence? Just to be clear

  * This is not a training workshop (you?ll be DOing 90% of the time in
    a group). If you don?t have IPv6 training, this is NOT for you.
  * This is not a session for arguing ad-infinitum about why some
    $specific_software doesn?t work on IPv6. (aka #6ExcuseCon)

So if you want to securely announce our IPv6 prefix in a manner
consistent with industry best practice, and get ready to natively
connect a native IPv6 customer. If you?d value a having a group of
like-minded engineers with the same mission along with the guidance of
experienced trainers and seasoned IPv6 deployers, then click
https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/744712/lang-en **PS:Registration
will be closed**Wednesday 14 April 2018** to indicate your interest.
Only 20 seats available. Selection is strict based on how well you meet
the pre-requisites within the registration form. See you in Dakar? Brice
for the AFRINIC IPv6 Deployment Support Team **Fran?ai**s ici**** Chers
coll?gues, Bien que tous les pr?fixes IPv6 (et ceci est aussi valable
pour IPv4) n'aient pas tous besoin d'?tre annonc?s globalement, la
plupart doivent l'?tre. Il y a un nombre important de pr?fixes IPv6 de
notre r?gion qui n'est actuellement pas annonc?. Si vous avez un espace
IPv6 et ne l'annoncez pas par choix de design, alors ce mail n'est pas
pour vous. Ce mail n'est non plus pas pour vous si vous

  * n?avez pas d?j? des connaissances d?IPv6
  * ne disposez pas d?j? d'un bloc d'adresses IPv6 pour votre r?seau
  * n??tes pas responsables de la configuration des sessions BGP de
    votre r?seau
  * avez besoin de preuve (? alpha = 0,05) que IPv6 n'est pas un mot ?
    la mode qui dispara?tra si vous enterrez notre t?te profond?ment
    dans ?le sable? d?IPv4

Cependant, si vous ne l?avez pas encore annonc? ? cause de l?un ou
plusieurs de ces d?fis suivant:

  * la comp?tence et la connaissance
  * la confiance d?executer un projet ?NOUVEAU? sans l?appui dun expert
  * le temps de simplement s'asseoir et de le faire sans la distraction
    d'autres projets cl?s; (les r?seaux sociaux n?en font pas partir :-) )

Alors nous avons une solution pour vous SI vous serez ? l'AIS de Dakar.
Nous allons faire un hackathon avec les objectifs suivants:

 1. Annoncez en toute s?curit? votre pr?fixe IPv6 d'une mani?re conforme
    aux meilleures pratiques en la mati?re
 2. Activer IPv6 sur votre r?seau principal pour pouvoir connecter un
    client IPv6 natif dans un futur proche

Ceci est notre r?ponse ? un d?fi r?current qui est ressorti au terme de
notre derni?re enqu?te sur les d?fis de d?ploiement IPv6: "Manque de
confiance" Pour ?tre clair,

  * Ce n'est pas un atelier de formation (vous allez passer 90% du temps
    dans un groupe). Si vous n'avez pas de connaissances sur IPv6, cet
    ?v?nement n'est pas le v?tre.
  * Ce n'est pas une session pour argumenter ? l?infinie sur les raisons
    pour lesquelles une application sp?cifique ne fonctionne pas sur
    IPv6. (aka #6ExcuseCon)

Donc, si vous souhaitez annoncer notre pr?fixe IPv6 de mani?re s?curis?e
avec les meilleures pratiques en la mati?re, si vous souhaitez ?tre pr?t
? connecter nativement un client IPv6 natif. Si vous tenez ? avoir un
groupe d'ing?nieurs partageant les m?mes id?es avec la m?me mission avec
les conseils de formateurs exp?riment?s et d?experts dans le d?ploiement
d?IPv6, cliquez sur https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/744712/lang-fr
**PS: Les **inscriptions**fermeront ce Mercredi 04 Avril 2018** pour
indiquer votre int?r?t. Seulement 20 places seront disponibles. La
s?lection est faite en fonction des r?ponses que vous donnez aux
questions pos?s dans le formulaire d'inscription. On se voit ? Dakar?
Brice repr?sentant l'?quipe de support au d?ploiement IPv6 d'AFRINIC

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From brice at afrinic.net  Mon Apr  2 16:16:14 2018
From: brice at afrinic.net (Brice ABBA)
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 20:16:14 +0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] =?utf-8?q?Errata=3A_Is_Your_IPv6_Space_Still_Un?=
 =?utf-8?q?announced=3F_Here=E2=80=99s_your_chance_to_fix_it!?=
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References: <b0ef9fc7-a9b0-556a-9461-9d5386712e0e@afrinic.net>
Message-ID: <712ecafe-6bc5-8e75-c157-a35a72ad0972@afrinic.net>


> **PS:Registration will be closed**Wednesday 04 April 2018**


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From willy.manga at auf.org  Tue Apr  3 07:42:14 2018
From: willy.manga at auf.org (Willy MANGA)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 08:42:14 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Another ISP providing IPv6 in Cameroon
Message-ID: <22d098a7-976b-6219-05b6-4a0056d6f44a@auf.org>

Hi,
For your information, our third site in Cameroon can use v6 prefix (a
/48) since yesterday . Kudos to INFOGENIE (AS327741) .

I may be wrong but it would be the second ISP providing IPv6 in Cameroon.
I know they made some workaround to provide us IPv6 but I'm confident
they will attend the 'deployathon' in Dakar  and enhance their
architecture ;)

Hopefully more sites in our region will use v6 soon;  we keep asking it
to our ISP.

-- 
Willy Ted MANGA
Responsable Technique R?gional | DRACGL
https://www.auf.org/afrique-centrale-grands-lacs/


From bruno.stevant at gmail.com  Wed Apr  4 10:22:00 2018
From: bruno.stevant at gmail.com (Bruno Stevant)
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 10:22:00 +0000
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] MOOC Objectif IPv6 Session 4
Message-ID: <CAP93QwCOcc8Ywe79KK+_jUtHL0wyRUjzd4ALQ0Js4x-T_wHyfg@mail.gmail.com>

Apr?s 3 sessions et plus de 15.000 inscrits, le MOOC Objectif IPv6 revient
pour une 4?me session !
Toute l??quipe p?dagogique esp?re vous accompagner ? la d?couverte d'IPv6
et vous donner les cl?s pour devenir op?rationnel.
Le MOOC Objectif IPv6, c?est :
- Plus de 3h de cours en vid?os, par les intervenants du G6
- Un support de cours complet et mis ? jour !
- Des interviews d?acteurs du d?ploiement d?IPv6 : Thierry Ernst et
St?phane Bortzmeyer
- Une plate-forme pour r?aliser des activit?s pratiques et manipuler un
r?seau IPv6
Pour vous inscrire ? cette nouvelle session, suivez ce lien
https://www.fun-mooc.fr/courses/course-v1:MinesTelecom+04012+session04/about
Rendez vous au 4 mai pour l?ouverture de la premi?re semaine de cours !
N?h?sitez pas ? relayer cette information dans votre entourage, votre
entreprise et vos communaut?s !
IPv6-ment v?tre,
-- 
Bruno STEVANT
Secr?taire de l'association G6 - http://g6.asso.fr
Responsable Groupe de Travail Formation
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From matoa at vayu.net  Wed Apr  4 13:06:54 2018
From: matoa at vayu.net (Mathieu Paonessa)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 15:06:54 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] MOOC Objectif IPv6 Session 4
In-Reply-To: <CAP93QwCOcc8Ywe79KK+_jUtHL0wyRUjzd4ALQ0Js4x-T_wHyfg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAP93QwCOcc8Ywe79KK+_jUtHL0wyRUjzd4ALQ0Js4x-T_wHyfg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <eb7a0c50-ae38-ee84-b9c3-7f5c3665fe12@vayu.net>

Bonjour,

Pourriez vous confirmer que cette formation est gratuite pour les
membres d'Afrinic int?ress?s?
En fouillant dans l'URL donn?e (le site est (volontairement?) mal fait
et pas clair ? ce sujet), on voit une info donnant la modique somme de
1550? / participant.

Tr?s franchement, ? 1550? par participant + billet d'avion vers la
France + frais + cout du visa + ..., je pense que n'importe quel membre
ayant du bon sens et voulant former ses ?quipes ? IPv6 ferait mieux de
donner cet argent ? AfriNIC pour qu'ils envoient un de leur (excellent)
formateurs directement former les personnes en local...

My 2 cts,

Mathieu

On 04/04/2018 12:22, Bruno Stevant wrote:
> Apr?s 3 sessions et plus de 15.000 inscrits, le MOOC Objectif IPv6
> revient pour une 4?me session !
> Toute l??quipe p?dagogique esp?re vous accompagner ? la d?couverte
> d'IPv6 et vous donner les cl?s pour devenir op?rationnel.
> Le MOOC Objectif IPv6, c?est :
> - Plus de 3h de cours en vid?os, par les intervenants du G6
> - Un support de cours complet et mis ? jour !
> - Des interviews d?acteurs du d?ploiement d?IPv6 : Thierry Ernst et
> St?phane Bortzmeyer
> - Une plate-forme pour r?aliser des activit?s pratiques et manipuler un
> r?seau IPv6
> Pour vous inscrire ? cette nouvelle session, suivez ce lien?
> https://www.fun-mooc.fr/courses/course-v1:MinesTelecom+04012+session04/about
> Rendez vous au 4 mai pour l?ouverture de la premi?re semaine de cours !
> N?h?sitez pas ? relayer cette information dans votre entourage, votre
> entreprise et vos communaut?s !
> IPv6-ment v?tre,
> -- 
> Bruno STEVANT
> Secr?taire de l'association G6 - http://g6.asso.fr
> Responsable Groupe de Travail Formation
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> AfrIPv6-Discuss mailing list
> AfrIPv6-Discuss at afrinic.net
> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/afripv6-discuss
> 



From bortzmeyer at nic.fr  Wed Apr  4 13:18:27 2018
From: bortzmeyer at nic.fr (Stephane Bortzmeyer)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 15:18:27 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] MOOC Objectif IPv6 Session 4
In-Reply-To: <eb7a0c50-ae38-ee84-b9c3-7f5c3665fe12@vayu.net>
References: <CAP93QwCOcc8Ywe79KK+_jUtHL0wyRUjzd4ALQ0Js4x-T_wHyfg@mail.gmail.com>
 <eb7a0c50-ae38-ee84-b9c3-7f5c3665fe12@vayu.net>
Message-ID: <20180404131827.u2i3bauzgxdp2awe@nic.fr>

On Wed, Apr 04, 2018 at 03:06:54PM +0200,
 Mathieu Paonessa <matoa at vayu.net> wrote 
 a message of 37 lines which said:

> Tr?s franchement, ? 1550? par participant + billet d'avion vers la
> France + frais + cout du visa

C'est un MOOC, il n'y a pas de d?placement et l'Internet ne connait
pas les visas :-)


From bortzmeyer at nic.fr  Wed Apr  4 13:33:25 2018
From: bortzmeyer at nic.fr (Stephane Bortzmeyer)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 15:33:25 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] MOOC Objectif IPv6 Session 4
In-Reply-To: <5e4cb3d6-f385-0284-dc28-4d43f7e54d43@vayu.net>
References: <CAP93QwCOcc8Ywe79KK+_jUtHL0wyRUjzd4ALQ0Js4x-T_wHyfg@mail.gmail.com>
 <eb7a0c50-ae38-ee84-b9c3-7f5c3665fe12@vayu.net>
 <20180404131827.u2i3bauzgxdp2awe@nic.fr>
 <5e4cb3d6-f385-0284-dc28-4d43f7e54d43@vayu.net>
Message-ID: <20180404133325.7rmjuwolrunte3tq@nic.fr>

On Wed, Apr 04, 2018 at 03:26:44PM +0200,
 Mathieu Paonessa <matoa at vayu.net> wrote 
 a message of 100 lines which said:

> En allant b?tement sur le site je vois:
> 
> Prix : 1550 ?

Je crois que vous avez confondu avec ?a
<http://www.telecom-evolution.fr/fr/formations-courtes/ipv6-theorie-et-pratique>,
qui n'a rien ? voir.



From bruno.stevant at gmail.com  Wed Apr  4 14:10:30 2018
From: bruno.stevant at gmail.com (Bruno Stevant)
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 14:10:30 +0000
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] MOOC Objectif IPv6 Session 4
In-Reply-To: <20180404133325.7rmjuwolrunte3tq@nic.fr>
References: <CAP93QwCOcc8Ywe79KK+_jUtHL0wyRUjzd4ALQ0Js4x-T_wHyfg@mail.gmail.com>
 <eb7a0c50-ae38-ee84-b9c3-7f5c3665fe12@vayu.net>
 <20180404131827.u2i3bauzgxdp2awe@nic.fr>
 <5e4cb3d6-f385-0284-dc28-4d43f7e54d43@vayu.net>
 <20180404133325.7rmjuwolrunte3tq@nic.fr>
Message-ID: <CAP93QwDA-VfSPu6hcWaDL3WZ_DwuAk4gkxsBsxv2or52a3PxSg@mail.gmail.com>

Bonjour Mathieu et St?phane,
En effet, sur la page de pr?sentation du MOOC nous avons inclus un lien
vers l'organisme de formation de l'Institut Mines Telecom (Telecom
Evolution) avec lequel nous organisons un parcours hybride : suivi du MOOC
avec accompagnement personnalis? et 2 jours de formation en pr?sentiel.
Cette offre (payante) est bien s?r optionnelle et s'adresse principalement
aux apprenants d?sirant un suivi et un approfondissement particulier.
La participation au MOOC en lui-m?me reste gratuite et l'?quipe p?dagogique
sera ? vos c?t?s pour vous accompagner jusqu'? la d?livrance de
l'attestation !

Le mer. 4 avr. 2018 ? 15:34, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer at nic.fr> a
?crit :

> On Wed, Apr 04, 2018 at 03:26:44PM +0200,
>  Mathieu Paonessa <matoa at vayu.net> wrote
>  a message of 100 lines which said:
>
> > En allant b?tement sur le site je vois:
> >
> > Prix : 1550 ?
>
> Je crois que vous avez confondu avec ?a
> <
> http://www.telecom-evolution.fr/fr/formations-courtes/ipv6-theorie-et-pratique
> >,
> qui n'a rien ? voir.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> AfrIPv6-Discuss mailing list
> AfrIPv6-Discuss at afrinic.net
> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/afripv6-discuss
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From matoa at vayu.net  Wed Apr  4 14:37:00 2018
From: matoa at vayu.net (Mathieu Paonessa)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 16:37:00 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] MOOC Objectif IPv6 Session 4
In-Reply-To: <CAP93QwDA-VfSPu6hcWaDL3WZ_DwuAk4gkxsBsxv2or52a3PxSg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAP93QwCOcc8Ywe79KK+_jUtHL0wyRUjzd4ALQ0Js4x-T_wHyfg@mail.gmail.com>
 <eb7a0c50-ae38-ee84-b9c3-7f5c3665fe12@vayu.net>
 <20180404131827.u2i3bauzgxdp2awe@nic.fr>
 <5e4cb3d6-f385-0284-dc28-4d43f7e54d43@vayu.net>
 <20180404133325.7rmjuwolrunte3tq@nic.fr>
 <CAP93QwDA-VfSPu6hcWaDL3WZ_DwuAk4gkxsBsxv2or52a3PxSg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4101b4d2-d97d-ab65-f8d7-35393689fdd7@vayu.net>

Bonjour Bruno,

Merci pour la clarification et la confirmation que ce MOOC est gratuit.
Plus aucune excuse donc pour ceux qui n'ont pas de training AfriNIC
pr?vu dans leur ville dans les prochains mois de ne pas y participer!

Mathieu


On 04/04/2018 16:10, Bruno Stevant wrote:
> Bonjour Mathieu et St?phane,
> En effet, sur la page de pr?sentation du MOOC nous avons inclus un
> lien vers l'organisme de formation de l'Institut Mines Telecom
> (Telecom Evolution) avec lequel nous organisons un parcours hybride :
> suivi du MOOC avec accompagnement personnalis? et 2 jours de formation
> en pr?sentiel.
> Cette offre (payante) est bien s?r optionnelle et s'adresse
> principalement aux apprenants d?sirant un suivi et un
> approfondissement particulier.
> La participation au MOOC en lui-m?me reste gratuite et l'?quipe
> p?dagogique sera ? vos c?t?s pour vous accompagner jusqu'? la
> d?livrance de l'attestation !
>
> Le?mer. 4 avr. 2018 ??15:34, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer at nic.fr
> <mailto:bortzmeyer at nic.fr>> a ?crit?:
>
>     On Wed, Apr 04, 2018 at 03:26:44PM +0200,
>     ?Mathieu Paonessa <matoa at vayu.net <mailto:matoa at vayu.net>> wrote
>     ?a message of 100 lines which said:
>
>     > En allant b?tement sur le site je vois:
>     >
>     > Prix : 1550 ?
>
>     Je crois que vous avez confondu avec ?a
>     <http://www.telecom-evolution.fr/fr/formations-courtes/ipv6-theorie-et-pratique>,
>     qui n'a rien ? voir.
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     AfrIPv6-Discuss mailing list
>     AfrIPv6-Discuss at afrinic.net <mailto:AfrIPv6-Discuss at afrinic.net>
>     https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/afripv6-discuss
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From brice at afrinic.net  Wed Apr 11 11:48:54 2018
From: brice at afrinic.net (Brice ABBA)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 15:48:54 +0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] =?utf-8?q?Webinar_Francophone=3A_R=C3=A9ussir_S?=
 =?utf-8?q?on_Plan_D=E2=80=99Adressage_IPv6_=7C_JEUDI_19_AVRIL_13h_GMT?=
Message-ID: <850b6ec4-0f6c-8b89-417d-40816da7873c@afrinic.net>

**


  *R?ussir Son Plan D?Adressage IPv6*

*

JEUDI 19 AVRIL 13h GMT, 17h MUT

Webinar | AFRINIC

*

L?une des activit?s les plus importantes dans la mise en place de son
r?seau informatique est le plan d?adressage, ceci ?tait vrai pour IPv4
et cela l?est encore pour ?IPv6. IPv6 repr?sente aujourd'hui pr?s de 20%
du trafic Internet et son usage se g?n?ralise de plus en plus. Ainsi,
faire en sorte que son r?seau informatique supporte IPv6 devient
aujourd?hui un imp?ratif. Entant qu?ing?nieurs et/ou professionnels de
syst?me d?informations savoir faire un plan d?adressage IPv6 avec les
meilleurs pratiques en la mati?re repr?sente un avantage consid?rable
dans ce monde r?solument tourn? vers IPv6.

**
*

Ce w Ce webinar de 2h vous donnera les bonne pratiques et un outil pour
vous aider ? cr?er votre plan d?adressage en 24 heures.

*
*

Nous choisirons ensuite 10 personnes chanceuses pour analyser leurs plan
d'adressage et les aider ? obtenir leur bloc d?adresses IPv6 dans dans
un d?lais express aupr?s d'AFRINIC!

*
*

Ce webinar vous permettra de:

 1.

    Erreurs ? ?viter lors dans la cr?ation de son plan d?adressage IPv6

 2.

    D?couper un pr?fixe IPv6 en fonction de ses besoins

 3.

    Estimer la taille du pr?fixe IPv6 utile pour votre syst?me d?information

 4.

    Demander votre bloc d?adresses IPv6 ? AFRINIC

*
*

Les pr?requis:

 1.

    G?rer un r?seau IPv4 et avoir les connaissances suivantes:

     1.

        Savoir faire un plan d?adressage IPv4 et VLSM

     2.

        Les Vlans

 2.

    Avoir d?j? suivie une formation en pr?sentielle ou en ligne sur:

     1.

        Les bases d?IPv6

     2.

        Les diff?rents types d?adresses IPv6


[Pour vous inscrire cliquez ici: http://bit.ly/Adressage_Ipv6]

*

-- 
Mr Brice B. ABBA
t: +230 403 51 00 | f: +230 466 6758 | tt: @afrinic | w:www.afrinic.net
facebook.com/afrinic | flickr.com/afrinic | youtube.com/afrinicmedia
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From brice at afrinic.net  Mon Apr 16 08:54:50 2018
From: brice at afrinic.net (Brice ABBA)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 12:54:50 +0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] =?utf-8?q?Webinar_Francophone=3A_R=C3=A9ussir_S?=
 =?utf-8?q?on_Plan_D=E2=80=99Adressage_IPv6_=7C_JEUDI_19_AVRIL_13h_GMT?=
Message-ID: <97e08faf-bf0f-942a-50c3-a77b64e957cc@afrinic.net>

**


  *R?ussir Son Plan D?Adressage IPv6*

*

JEUDI 19 AVRIL 13h GMT, 17h MUT

Webinar | AFRINIC

*

L?une des activit?s les plus importantes dans la mise en place de son
r?seau informatique est le plan d?adressage, ceci ?tait vrai pour IPv4
et cela l?est encore pour ?IPv6. IPv6 repr?sente aujourd'hui pr?s de 20%
du trafic Internet et son usage se g?n?ralise de plus en plus. Ainsi,
faire en sorte que son r?seau informatique supporte IPv6 devient
aujourd?hui un imp?ratif. Entant qu?ing?nieurs et/ou professionnels de
syst?me d?informations savoir faire un plan d?adressage IPv6 avec les
meilleurs pratiques en la mati?re repr?sente un avantage consid?rable
dans ce monde r?solument tourn? vers IPv6.

**
*

Ce w Ce webinar de 2h vous donnera les bonne pratiques et un outil pour
vous aider ? cr?er votre plan d?adressage en 24 heures.

*
*

Nous choisirons ensuite 10 personnes chanceuses pour analyser leurs plan
d'adressage et les aider ? obtenir leur bloc d?adresses IPv6 dans dans
un d?lais express aupr?s d'AFRINIC!

*
*

Ce webinar vous permettra de:

 1.

    Erreurs ? ?viter lors dans la cr?ation de son plan d?adressage IPv6

 2.

    D?couper un pr?fixe IPv6 en fonction de ses besoins

 3.

    Estimer la taille du pr?fixe IPv6 utile pour votre syst?me d?information

 4.

    Demander votre bloc d?adresses IPv6 ? AFRINIC

*
*

Les pr?requis:

 1.

    G?rer un r?seau IPv4 et avoir les connaissances suivantes:

     1.

        Savoir faire un plan d?adressage IPv4 et VLSM

     2.

        Les Vlans

 2.

    Avoir d?j? suivie une formation en pr?sentielle ou en ligne sur:

     1.

        Les bases d?IPv6

     2.

        Les diff?rents types d?adresses IPv6


[Pour vous inscrire cliquez ici: http://bit.ly/Adressage_Ipv6]

*

-- 
Mr Brice B. ABBA
t: +230 403 51 00 | f: +230 466 6758 | tt: @afrinic | w:www.afrinic.net
facebook.com/afrinic | flickr.com/afrinic | youtube.com/afrinicmedia
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Join us for the Africa Internet Summit AIS?18  in Dakar, Senegal from 29th April to 11th May 2018
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From matoa at vayu.net  Wed Apr  4 13:27:05 2018
From: matoa at vayu.net (Mathieu Paonessa)
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 13:27:05 -0000
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] MOOC Objectif IPv6 Session 4
In-Reply-To: <20180404131827.u2i3bauzgxdp2awe@nic.fr>
References: <CAP93QwCOcc8Ywe79KK+_jUtHL0wyRUjzd4ALQ0Js4x-T_wHyfg@mail.gmail.com>
 <eb7a0c50-ae38-ee84-b9c3-7f5c3665fe12@vayu.net>
 <20180404131827.u2i3bauzgxdp2awe@nic.fr>
Message-ID: <5e4cb3d6-f385-0284-dc28-4d43f7e54d43@vayu.net>

On 04/04/2018 15:18, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 04, 2018 at 03:06:54PM +0200,
>  Mathieu Paonessa <matoa at vayu.net> wrote 
>  a message of 37 lines which said:
>
>> Tr?s franchement, ? 1550? par participant + billet d'avion vers la
>> France + frais + cout du visa
> C'est un MOOC, il n'y a pas de d?placement et l'Internet ne connait
> pas les visas :-)


Aucune id?e de ce qu'est un MOOC. C'est peut ?tre ?vident pour toi et
les personnes qui organisent ca mais je doute que ca le soit pour 100%
de la liste.

En allant b?tement sur le site je vois:

Prix : 1550 ?
Dur?e : 6 semaines dont 2 jours en atelier pr?sentiel jour(s)
Sessions
30 avril au 11 juin 2018 ? Paris

Avec plus bas ?crit:
Le parcours en blended learning "IPv6 : th?orie et pratique" s?articule
autour d?un cours en ligne (Massive Open Online Course) et de 2 journ?es
cons?cutives de travail en pr?sentiel.

C'est aussi du MOOC le "pr?sentiel"? :-)

Mathieu

PS: MOOC = Massive Open Online Course.. c'est vrai que ca fait beaucoup
plus "aware" que "cours en ligne"...


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From christian.nkoumou at camtel.cm  Thu Apr 26 14:20:37 2018
From: christian.nkoumou at camtel.cm (Christian NKOUMOU)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 15:20:37 +0100 (WAT)
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] MOOC Objectif IPv6 Session 4
In-Reply-To: <5e4cb3d6-f385-0284-dc28-4d43f7e54d43@vayu.net>
References: <CAP93QwCOcc8Ywe79KK+_jUtHL0wyRUjzd4ALQ0Js4x-T_wHyfg@mail.gmail.com>
 <eb7a0c50-ae38-ee84-b9c3-7f5c3665fe12@vayu.net>
 <20180404131827.u2i3bauzgxdp2awe@nic.fr>
 <5e4cb3d6-f385-0284-dc28-4d43f7e54d43@vayu.net>
Message-ID: <1393789646.6039941.1524752437347.JavaMail.zimbra@camtel.cm>

Quels sont les commodit?s sur place ? 


J. Christian NKOUMOU 
Computer & Telecommunications Design Eng ineer 
MBA Executive on Telecommunications Administration 
Cisco & Microsoft Certified of Achievment 
Head of the Center of Specialized Services (CSTE-Y) 
Tel: (+237) 222 22 23 83 / 242 01 45 54 / 620 00 56 39 


De: "Mathieu Paonessa" <matoa at vayu.net> 
?: "Stephane Bortzmeyer" <bortzmeyer at nic.fr> 
Cc: "IPv6 in Africa Discussions" <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net> 
Envoy?: Mercredi 4 Avril 2018 14:26:44 
Objet: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] MOOC Objectif IPv6 Session 4 

On 04/04/2018 15:18, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: 



On Wed, Apr 04, 2018 at 03:06:54PM +0200,
 Mathieu Paonessa [ mailto:matoa at vayu.net | <matoa at vayu.net> ] wrote 
 a message of 37 lines which said: 

BQ_BEGIN

Tr?s franchement, ? 1550? par participant + billet d'avion vers la
France + frais + cout du visa 



C'est un MOOC, il n'y a pas de d?placement et l'Internet ne connait
pas les visas :-) 

BQ_END





Aucune id?e de ce qu'est un MOOC. C'est peut ?tre ?vident pour toi et les personnes qui organisent ca mais je doute que ca le soit pour 100% de la liste. 


En allant b?tement sur le site je vois: 


Prix : 1550 ? 
Dur?e : 6 semaines dont 2 jours en atelier pr?sentiel jour(s) 
Sessions 
30 avril au 11 juin 2018 ? Paris 
Avec plus bas ?crit: 
Le parcours en blended learning "IPv6 : th?orie et pratique" s?articule autour d?un cours en ligne (Massive Open Online Course) et de 2 journ?es cons?cutives de travail en pr?sentiel. 

C'est aussi du MOOC le "pr?sentiel"? :-) 

Mathieu 

PS: MOOC = Massive Open Online Course.. c'est vrai que ca fait beaucoup plus "aware" que "cours en ligne"... 




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From latif at ladid.lu  Fri May 25 13:33:46 2018
From: latif at ladid.lu (Latif LADID [IPv6-based Internet])
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 15:33:46 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] FW: Nominate Africa's Leading Workplace eLearning
	Professionals!
In-Reply-To: <cbbe7a704e65340804fe62bf7c0cd8d4@feedback.elearning-africa.com>
References: <cbbe7a704e65340804fe62bf7c0cd8d4@feedback.elearning-africa.com>
Message-ID: <032e01d3f42d$033113d0$09933b70$@ladid.lu>

Pls nominate some deserving people.

 

From: Rebecca Stromeyer <rebecca.stromeyer at elearning-africa.com> 
Sent: 25 May 2018 15:28
To: latif.ladid at uni.lu
Subject: Nominate Africa's Leading Workplace eLearning Professionals!

 

Dear Mr Ladid, 

I would like to take this opportunity to invite you to nominate candidates for the Top 50 most influential Africans in workplace eLearning. This list of Africa?s leading thought leaders, opinion formers and practitioners in eLearning in the workplace in both the corporate and public sectors is scheduled to be published shortly before this year?s  <https://tracking.elearning-africa.com/?cctw=BAgAIIENKASHk4XQcA2YEQ0j> eLearning Africa conference, which will be held in Kigali, Rwanda, from 26th to 28th September. This list, which will be published under the ?Bob Little? brand, should draw worldwide attention to the eLearning activities going on throughout Africa. 

If there is anybody you think should be considered to be on this list, please feel free to nominate them using the form at the end this message which you can send by return email. 

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The selection/ eligibility criteria for names on the African Workplace eLearning Movers and Shakers List will be the same as for the ?main? List. That is: 

People named on the List will be influential within the workplace e-learning sector both within their country and the continent. Those who are  influential on a wider geographic scale will tend to rank higher than those who are influential ?only? on a national level. 

Although academics can be named on this list, they should be considered only in so far as their work influences those in the corporate world in Africa. 

The list is compiled on the basis of a person?s perceived current influence on the workplace online learning industry ? as a practitioner, commentator, facilitator and/or thought leader. In today?s social media influenced age, this tends to give social media users, especially bloggers, a greater ?international profile? and ?thought leader influence? than, say, practitioners. Nonetheless, the judges will try to take account of the work and influence of ?pure? industry practitioners, including those who are active ?behind the scenes?. These people have a significant, if often unseen, influence over the industry. 

When considering who you will nominate for this List, please consider which online learning practitioners, commentators, facilitators and/or thought leaders most inspire and influence you ? and your colleagues. 

If you need further guidance, please view the main Corporate eLearning Movers and Shakers? List <https://tracking.elearning-africa.com/press-releases/corporate-elearning-movers-and-shakers-list-2018?cctw=BAgAIIENKASHg4fAcB0YAS4N> . 

For the sake of continuity ? and credibility for both lists ? it would be good to reflect this in the Africa List. However, the Africa List should focus on those who?re influential in eLearning across the continent of Africa, rather than those from Africa who?re influential on the world stage. 

What?s Involved
To produce the List, please complete the template ?entry form? below. 

Please supply the required details of as many people as you feel meet the criteria to be included on the List. 

Please note that you cannot nominate yourself. However, your name could be on the List if another ?nominator? includes you on their list. The Nomination Form is attached and please copy ? and complete - this template for each person you want to nominate. You can nominate as many (different) people as you wish ? but, please, only submit one nomination per individual nominee.

Please return these nomination forms to me, via email, by June 30. I will forward them to Bob Little. Then he and his team will validate the nominations, carry out further research and then produce the Movers and Shakers? List for Africa. 

I am very grateful for your help with compiling this List of the Movers and Shakers for Workplace eLearning in Africa, which I believe will help highlight these people on the world stage of eLearning. 

A Workplace eLearning Movers and Shakers? List for Africa

Nomination Form

I would like to nominate ? for inclusion in the Workplace eLearning Movers and Shakers? List for Africa, 2018:


Name of nominee: 

 


Country of origin

 


Country in which they currently work (if different)

 


Nominee?s Job Role:

 


Nominee?s Organisation:

 


Nominee?s LinkedIn profile reference:

 


Nominee?s other social media outlets:

 


Why do you believe that this person should be on the List?

 


Any other relevant information:

 


I look forward to hearing from you. 

With kind regards, 
Rebecca Stromeyer

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From mangawilly at gmail.com  Wed Jun  6 08:34:48 2018
From: mangawilly at gmail.com (Willy MANGA)
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 09:34:48 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Fwd: [rpd] Migrating quickly to IPv6
In-Reply-To: <8f919c9b-04aa-f72d-806d-c664ec398273@gmail.com>
References: <8f919c9b-04aa-f72d-806d-c664ec398273@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8bae5059-c957-672f-e6e8-a4bc200621c1@gmail.com>

Hello over there,
I thought it might be useful to forward this discussion here.

P.S : I know we are talking to v6 aware people on this list but ... it's
#v6launch today :) http://www.worldipv6launch.org/


-------- Message transf?r? --------
Sujet?: Re: [rpd] Migrating quickly to IPv6
Date?: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 09:21:51 +0100
De?: Willy MANGA <mangawilly at gmail.com>
Pour?: rpd at afrinic.net

Hi,

Le 06/06/2018 ? 01:31, S Moonesamy a ?crit?:
> Hi Owen,
> At 02:15 PM 05-06-2018, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> OK, there's a difference in perspective about IPv6 being a replacement
>> for IPv4 depending on the timeframe of your focus.
> 
> There was a presentation at RIPE in which it was stated that the pace of
> adoption of IPv6 in the Internet appears to have slowed down over the
> past 9 months.? Was that taken into consideration for the timeframe?

Maybe it can be useful to readers to know which presentation you are
talking about [1] .

I have appreciated Geoff's study but  from my point of view the way
people in africa may use/manage IPv6 in 2 or 5 years is yet unknown
because you don't have enough data (kudos to projects like WIDER) .

Generally you don't have unfortunately enough data coming from our
continent; thus it's difficult to forecast exactly what can be the trend
especially here.

I believe in Africa, a major player here is governements on contrary of
other regions. You may like it or not in many countries, you can't
organise a meeting without their agreement, you can't use freely the
internet without their agreement,etc... (I'm not a fan of that issue by
the way)
If some african countries find in IPv6 a real need to go forward, the
curve of adoption may jump drastically.

In addition, the second most important actor (again from my point of
view) is the universities. I really really hope those here working
within this area will understand me. We [2] are doing our best here but
it's a combination of people/organisation.

Of course I may be wrong but it's just a point of view :)

By the way, it's #v6launch today :) . Announce your v6 prefixes; it will
not hurt you ;)

1. https://ripe76.ripe.net/presentations/9-2018-05-17-ipv6-reasons.pdf

2. AUF - DRACGL https://nda.manbene.net/index.php/s/kWfs21HEHWzIP3t

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From jordi.palet at consulintel.es  Wed Jun  6 08:50:33 2018
From: jordi.palet at consulintel.es (JORDI PALET MARTINEZ)
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2018 10:50:33 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] [rpd] TRANSITIONING quickly to IPv6
Message-ID: <794D673D-D5DA-471C-8A45-8D2968D14CC3@consulintel.es>

One thing I strongly suggest: Do not use migration for IPv6, it confuses people.

Migration is when you move (as an example) from Windows XP to Windows Vista. You install a new operating system but the previous one is gone. You don't run them simultaneously.

The IETF has defined transition and coexistence mechanisms, NOT migration.

So, comparing with my previous OS example, migrating to IPv6 means removing ALL IPv4 (end-to-end) and installing only IPv6.

In general, we don't do that, we deploy IPv6, but we keep (at least in most of the "client" devices today), IPv4. Either we use dual-stack or any transition mechanism. So, there is a coexistence between both, IPv4 and IPv6.

In the future, yes, maybe we, at some point, start removing IPv4. But this is not a wise recommendation for end-users/end-networks.

This is very evident when you train people. They get confused, and also because in many languages, both words are not exactly equivalent (as in English seems to be, which actually is not ...).


Regards,
Jordi
 
 

?-----Mensaje original-----
De: Willy MANGA <mangawilly at gmail.com>
Fecha: mi?rcoles, 6 de junio de 2018, 10:25
Para: <rpd at afrinic.net>
Asunto: Re: [rpd] Migrating quickly to IPv6

    Hi,
    
    Le 06/06/2018 ? 01:31, S Moonesamy a ?crit :
    > Hi Owen,
    > At 02:15 PM 05-06-2018, Owen DeLong wrote:
    >> OK, there's a difference in perspective about IPv6 being a replacement
    >> for IPv4 depending on the timeframe of your focus.
    > 
    > There was a presentation at RIPE in which it was stated that the pace of
    > adoption of IPv6 in the Internet appears to have slowed down over the
    > past 9 months.  Was that taken into consideration for the timeframe?
    
    Maybe it can be useful to readers to know which presentation you are
    talking about [1] .
    
    I have appreciated Geoff's study but  from my point of view the way
    people in africa may use/manage IPv6 in 2 or 5 years is yet unknown
    because you don't have enough data (kudos to projects like WIDER) .
    
    Generally you don't have unfortunately enough data coming from our
    continent; thus it's difficult to forecast exactly what can be the trend
    especially here.
    
    I believe in Africa, a major player here is governements on contrary of
    other regions. You may like it or not in many countries, you can't
    organise a meeting without their agreement, you can't use freely the
    internet without their agreement,etc... (I'm not a fan of that issue by
    the way)
    If some african countries find in IPv6 a real need to go forward, the
    curve of adoption may jump drastically.
    
    In addition, the second most important actor (again from my point of
    view) is the universities. I really really hope those here working
    within this area will understand me. We [2] are doing our best here but
    it's a combination of people/organisation.
    
    Of course I may be wrong but it's just a point of view :)
    
    By the way, it's #v6launch today :) . Announce your v6 prefixes; it will
    not hurt you ;)
    
    1. https://ripe76.ripe.net/presentations/9-2018-05-17-ipv6-reasons.pdf
    
    2. AUF - DRACGL https://nda.manbene.net/index.php/s/kWfs21HEHWzIP3t
    
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    @ongolaboy
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From jmangwana at buse.ac.zw  Wed Jun  6 08:56:02 2018
From: jmangwana at buse.ac.zw (Jasper Mangwana)
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 10:56:02 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Fwd: [rpd] Migrating quickly to IPv6
In-Reply-To: <8bae5059-c957-672f-e6e8-a4bc200621c1@gmail.com>
References: <8f919c9b-04aa-f72d-806d-c664ec398273@gmail.com>
 <8bae5059-c957-672f-e6e8-a4bc200621c1@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000601d3fd74$33f4a0e0$9bdde2a0$@buse.ac.zw>

I agree with you Willy,

On issues of research and development in universities we seem to be lobbying a lot but the people in the organisation do not really understand and would not want to invest in it. I suggest we also provide a lot of research papers in this area so that we can be complemented by government efforts.

Ever since Zimbabwe provided the IPv6 roadmap, we have an estimate of 5/6 universities working on IPv6 now.

http://www.potraz.gov.zw/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Zimbabwe-Draft-IPv6-Implementation-Strategy.pdf

Kind Regards
Jasper


-----Original Message-----
From: Willy MANGA [mailto:mangawilly at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 06 June 2018 10:35
To: afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Fwd: [rpd] Migrating quickly to IPv6

Hello over there,
I thought it might be useful to forward this discussion here.

P.S : I know we are talking to v6 aware people on this list but ... it's #v6launch today :) http://www.worldipv6launch.org/


-------- Message transf?r? --------
Sujet : Re: [rpd] Migrating quickly to IPv6 Date : Wed, 6 Jun 2018 09:21:51 +0100 De : Willy MANGA <mangawilly at gmail.com> Pour : rpd at afrinic.net

Hi,

Le 06/06/2018 ? 01:31, S Moonesamy a ?crit :
> Hi Owen,
> At 02:15 PM 05-06-2018, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> OK, there's a difference in perspective about IPv6 being a 
>> replacement for IPv4 depending on the timeframe of your focus.
> 
> There was a presentation at RIPE in which it was stated that the pace 
> of adoption of IPv6 in the Internet appears to have slowed down over 
> the past 9 months.  Was that taken into consideration for the timeframe?

Maybe it can be useful to readers to know which presentation you are talking about [1] .

I have appreciated Geoff's study but  from my point of view the way people in africa may use/manage IPv6 in 2 or 5 years is yet unknown because you don't have enough data (kudos to projects like WIDER) .

Generally you don't have unfortunately enough data coming from our continent; thus it's difficult to forecast exactly what can be the trend especially here.

I believe in Africa, a major player here is governements on contrary of other regions. You may like it or not in many countries, you can't organise a meeting without their agreement, you can't use freely the internet without their agreement,etc... (I'm not a fan of that issue by the way) If some african countries find in IPv6 a real need to go forward, the curve of adoption may jump drastically.

In addition, the second most important actor (again from my point of
view) is the universities. I really really hope those here working within this area will understand me. We [2] are doing our best here but it's a combination of people/organisation.

Of course I may be wrong but it's just a point of view :)

By the way, it's #v6launch today :) . Announce your v6 prefixes; it will not hurt you ;)

1. https://ripe76.ripe.net/presentations/9-2018-05-17-ipv6-reasons.pdf

2. AUF - DRACGL https://nda.manbene.net/index.php/s/kWfs21HEHWzIP3t

--
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@ongolaboy
https://ongola.blogspot.com/






From tamon at afrinic.net  Wed Jun  6 09:23:45 2018
From: tamon at afrinic.net (Mukom Akong T)
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 13:23:45 +0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Get Step-by-Step Help from AFRINIC with Your IPv6
	Deployment
Message-ID: <bec32612-7658-495e-bdf1-f647e240329d@Spark>

**Fran?aise en bas**

Hello colleagues,


Someone reminded me today that it?s IPv6 Launch anniversary - the 6th one.


Well, there ?will be no cake. There won?t be any festivities from our side (since we are still so far behind). But we do have something for the truly serious ones.


One of the challenges we got from our Deployment Challenges survey last year was engineers who said ?I just don?t have the confidence to do it on my own?


As a result we have two solutions to assist with that challenge


a) IPv6 Deployathons - the first of which took place in Dakar. A closed event to small number of carefully selected engineers that puts them in a room with guides and expert deployers to help them *actually* configure IPv6 on their production networks.


b) An IPv6 Deployment Support Help Desk - where we guide you step by step accomplish the deployment on some part of your network over a period of time.


None of these is about just more training. In fact having undergone some hands-on training is a pre-requisite to being selected for both of these.


If you are ready to stop bowing to excuses and want to start being part of the solution i.e. IPv6, if you would like the combined guidance of AFRINIC?s trainers working one on one with you on your team to deploy IPv6, then request an invitation by at

bit.ly/help6EN

And distinguish yourself from those who talk talk talk and look for excuses.


Warm Regards


Mukom, Brice, Stephen & Bashir


*****************************************


Bonjour mes coll?gues,


Quelqu'un m'a rappel? aujourd'hui que c'est l'anniversaire du lancement IPv6 - le 6?me.


Eh bien, il n'y aura pas de g?teau. Il n'y aura pas de festivit?s de notre c?t? (puisque nous sommes encore si loin derri?re). Mais nous avons quelque chose pour les plus s?rieux.


L'un des d?fis que nous avons relev?s l'an dernier lors de notre sondage sur les d?fis li?s au d?ploiement ?tait que les ing?nieurs disaient: ?Je n'ai pas la confiance n?cessaire pour le faire moi-m?me?.


En cons?quence, nous avons deux solutions pour aider ? relever ce d?fi


a) IPv6 Deployathons - dont le premier a eu lieu ? Dakar. Un ?v?nement ferm? ? un petit nombre d'ing?nieurs soigneusement s?lectionn?s qui les met dans une pi?ce avec des guides et des d?ployeurs experts pour les aider ? configurer r?ellement leur IPv6 sur leurs r?seaux de production.


b) Un centre d'assistance de d?ploiement IPv6 - o? nous vous guidons ?tape par ?tape pour accomplir le d?ploiement sur une partie de votre r?seau sur une p?riode de temps.


Rien de tout cela ne concerne juste plus de formation. En fait, avoir suivi une formation pratique est une condition pr?alable ? la s?lection de ces deux personnes.


Si vous ?tes pr?t ? cesser de c?der aux excuses et que vous voulez commencer ? faire partie de la solution, par exemple IPv6, si vous souhaitez que les formateurs d'AFRINIC travaillent en t?te-?-t?te avec votre ?quipe pour d?ployer IPv6, demandez une invitation en cliquant


bit.ly/help6/FR


Et distinguez-vous de ceux qui parlent de parler et de chercher des excuses!


Cordialement


Mukom, Brice, Stephen & Bashir


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From landry.lingombe at aninf.ga  Wed Jun  6 12:24:05 2018
From: landry.lingombe at aninf.ga (Landry Mexent NDOUMBOU LINGOMBE)
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 14:24:05 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Get Step-by-Step Help from AFRINIC with Your
 IPv6	Deployment
In-Reply-To: <bec32612-7658-495e-bdf1-f647e240329d@Spark>
Message-ID: <19957658.384.1528287841581.JavaMail.centos23@DESKTOP-EHOIL5C>

Bonjour Tamon, 

Je te remercie pour ton mail qui vient encore une fois de plus nous encourager ? d?ployer IPv6. 
J'avais ?galement pris part aux atelier IPv6 ? Dakar et cela avait ?t? tr?s b?n?fique. Comme te le disais, nous devions comencer le d?ploiement IPv6 ? l'ANINF et au niveau du point d'?change. 
Depuis les ateliers de Dakar, nous avons effectivement commenc? au niveau de ces 2 entit?s.

Pour ce que nous avons d?j? fait :
1. D?coupage des plages d'adresses selon les environnements ; 
2. Peering avec nos 2 transitaires (Orange et Cogent) et annonce des prefixes IPv6 aux peers ; 
3. Peering ?tabli entre l'ANINF et (GVA) au niveau du point d'?change.

La deuxi?me phase que nous souhaitons commencer consiste ? d?ployer IPv6 dans notre infrastructure de l'ANINF.

Pour cela, nous sollicitons un support d'AFRINIC. Pour ce que nous avons d?j? fait ou ce qui reste ? faire, auriez-vous de bonnes pratiques (filtrage, politiques BGP, etc.) pour nous accompagner  ? 

Encore merci pour votre soutien

Cordialement, 

Landry

----- Mail original -----
De: "Mukom Akong T" <tamon at afrinic.net>
?: "IPv6 in Africa Discussions" <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Envoy?: Mercredi 6 Juin 2018 10:23:45
Objet?: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Get Step-by-Step Help from AFRINIC with Your IPv6	Deployment




**Fran?aise en bas** 


Hello colleagues, 



Someone reminded me today that it?s IPv6 Launch anniversary - the 6th one. 




Well, there will be no cake. There won?t be any festivities from our side (since we are still so far behind). But we do have something for the truly serious ones. 




One of the challenges we got from our Deployment Challenges survey last year was engineers who said ?I just don?t have the confidence to do it on my own? 




As a result we have two solutions to assist with that challenge 




a) IPv6 Deployathons - the first of which took place in Dakar. A closed event to small number of carefully selected engineers that puts them in a room with guides and expert deployers to help them *actually* configure IPv6 on their production networks. 




b) An IPv6 Deployment Support Help Desk - where we guide you step by step accomplish the deployment on some part of your network over a period of time. 




None of these is about just more training. In fact having undergone some hands-on training is a pre-requisite to being selected for both of these. 




If you are ready to stop bowing to excuses and want to start being part of the solution i.e. IPv6, if you would like the combined guidance of AFRINIC?s trainers working one on one with you on your team to deploy IPv6, then request an invitation by at 


bit.ly/help6EN 



And distinguish yourself from those who talk talk talk and look for excuses. 




Warm Regards 




Mukom, Brice, Stephen & Bashir 




***************************************** 




Bonjour mes coll?gues, 


Quelqu'un m'a rappel? aujourd'hui que c'est l'anniversaire du lancement IPv6 - le 6?me. 


Eh bien, il n'y aura pas de g?teau. Il n'y aura pas de festivit?s de notre c?t? (puisque nous sommes encore si loin derri?re). Mais nous avons quelque chose pour les plus s?rieux. 


L'un des d?fis que nous avons relev?s l'an dernier lors de notre sondage sur les d?fis li?s au d?ploiement ?tait que les ing?nieurs disaient: ?Je n'ai pas la confiance n?cessaire pour le faire moi-m?me?. 


En cons?quence, nous avons deux solutions pour aider ? relever ce d?fi 


a) IPv6 Deployathons - dont le premier a eu lieu ? Dakar. Un ?v?nement ferm? ? un petit nombre d'ing?nieurs soigneusement s?lectionn?s qui les met dans une pi?ce avec des guides et des d?ployeurs experts pour les aider ? configurer r?ellement leur IPv6 sur leurs r?seaux de production. 


b) Un centre d'assistance de d?ploiement IPv6 - o? nous vous guidons ?tape par ?tape pour accomplir le d?ploiement sur une partie de votre r?seau sur une p?riode de temps. 


Rien de tout cela ne concerne juste plus de formation. En fait, avoir suivi une formation pratique est une condition pr?alable ? la s?lection de ces deux personnes. 


Si vous ?tes pr?t ? cesser de c?der aux excuses et que vous voulez commencer ? faire partie de la solution, par exemple IPv6, si vous souhaitez que les formateurs d'AFRINIC travaillent en t?te-?-t?te avec votre ?quipe pour d?ployer IPv6, demandez une invitation en cliquant 


bit.ly/help6/FR 





Et distinguez-vous de ceux qui parlent de parler et de chercher des excuses! 






Cordialement 




Mukom, Brice, Stephen & Bashir 






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From lee.howard at retevia.net  Wed Jun  6 14:56:51 2018
From: lee.howard at retevia.net (Lee Howard)
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 10:56:51 -0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Get Step-by-Step Help from AFRINIC with Your
 IPv6 Deployment
In-Reply-To: <bec32612-7658-495e-bdf1-f647e240329d@Spark>
References: <bec32612-7658-495e-bdf1-f647e240329d@Spark>
Message-ID: <f92432ff-f176-d436-442b-de64f557de6f@retevia.net>



On 06/06/2018 05:23 AM, Mukom Akong T wrote:
> **Fran?aise en bas**
>
> Hello colleagues,
>
>
> Someone reminded me today that it?s IPv6 Launch anniversary - the 6th 
> one.
>
>
> Well, there ?will be no cake

If anyone gets IPv6 running from customers to Internet, I will get you a 
cake.



Lee


> . There won?t be any festivities from our side (since we are still so 
> far behind). But we do have something for the truly serious ones.
>
>
> One of the challenges we got from our Deployment Challenges survey 
> last year was engineers who said ?I just don?t have the confidence to 
> do it on my own?
>
>
> As a result we have two solutions to assist with that challenge
>
>
> a) IPv6 Deployathons - the first of which took place in Dakar. A 
> closed event to small number of carefully selected engineers that puts 
> them in a room with guides and expert deployers to help them 
> *actually* configure IPv6 on their production networks.
>
>
> b) An IPv6 Deployment Support Help Desk - where we guide you step by 
> step accomplish the deployment on some part of your network over a 
> period of time.
>
>
> None of these is about just more training. In fact having undergone 
> some hands-on training is a pre-requisite to being selected for both 
> of these.
>
>
> If you are ready to stop bowing to excuses and want to start being 
> part of the solution i.e. IPv6, if you would like the combined 
> guidance of AFRINIC?s trainers working one on one with you on your 
> team to deploy IPv6, then request an invitation by at
>
> bit.ly/help6EN <http://bit.ly/help6EN>
>
> And distinguish yourself from those who talk talk talk and look for 
> excuses.
>
>
> Warm Regards
>
>
> Mukom, Brice, Stephen & Bashir
>
>
> *****************************************
>
>
> Bonjour mes coll?gues,
>
>
> Quelqu'un m'a rappel? aujourd'hui que c'est l'anniversaire du 
> lancement IPv6 - le 6?me.
>
>
> Eh bien, il n'y aura pas de g?teau. Il n'y aura pas de festivit?s de 
> notre c?t? (puisque nous sommes encore si loin derri?re). Mais nous 
> avons quelque chose pour les plus s?rieux.
>
>
> L'un des d?fis que nous avons relev?s l'an dernier lors de notre 
> sondage sur les d?fis li?s au d?ploiement ?tait que les ing?nieurs 
> disaient: ?Je n'ai pas la confiance n?cessaire pour le faire moi-m?me?.
>
>
> En cons?quence, nous avons deux solutions pour aider ? relever ce d?fi
>
>
> a) IPv6 Deployathons - dont le premier a eu lieu ? Dakar. Un ?v?nement 
> ferm? ? un petit nombre d'ing?nieurs soigneusement s?lectionn?s qui 
> les met dans une pi?ce avec des guides et des d?ployeurs experts pour 
> les aider ? configurer r?ellement leur IPv6 sur leurs r?seaux de 
> production.
>
>
> b) Un centre d'assistance de d?ploiement IPv6 - o? nous vous guidons 
> ?tape par ?tape pour accomplir le d?ploiement sur une partie de votre 
> r?seau sur une p?riode de temps.
>
>
> Rien de tout cela ne concerne juste plus de formation. En fait, avoir 
> suivi une formation pratique est une condition pr?alable ? la 
> s?lection de ces deux personnes.
>
>
> Si vous ?tes pr?t ? cesser de c?der aux excuses et que vous voulez 
> commencer ? faire partie de la solution, par exemple IPv6, si vous 
> souhaitez que les formateurs d'AFRINIC travaillent en t?te-?-t?te avec 
> votre ?quipe pour d?ployer IPv6, demandez une invitation en cliquant
>
>
> bit.ly/help6/FR <http://bit.ly/help6/FR>
>
>
> Et distinguez-vous de ceux qui parlent de parler et de chercher des 
> excuses!
>
>
> Cordialement
>
>
> Mukom, Brice, Stephen & Bashir
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> AfrIPv6-Discuss mailing list
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From noah at neo.co.tz  Wed Jun  6 18:15:04 2018
From: noah at neo.co.tz (Noah)
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 21:15:04 +0300
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Get Step-by-Step Help from AFRINIC with Your
 IPv6 Deployment
In-Reply-To: <f92432ff-f176-d436-442b-de64f557de6f@retevia.net>
References: <bec32612-7658-495e-bdf1-f647e240329d@Spark>
 <f92432ff-f176-d436-442b-de64f557de6f@retevia.net>
Message-ID: <CAEqgTWYav0PE8r2tbZ=Pwvc_aSQxHXo+Pz9fGwnhgD8_=1oHQg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 6 Jun 2018, 6:09 p.m. Lee Howard, <lee.howard at retevia.net> wrote:

>
>
> On 06/06/2018 05:23 AM, Mukom Akong T wrote:
>
> **Fran?aise en bas**
>
> Hello colleagues,
>
>
> Someone reminded me today that it?s IPv6 Launch anniversary - the 6th
> one.
>
>
> Well, there  will be no cake
>
>
> If anyone gets IPv6 running from customers to Internet, I will get you a
> cake.
>

Lol... I will add a bottle of wine..

I beg ... what really made people delpoy IPv4 in the first place...???

Anyone with the historical account of the transition then save for the fact
that the internet was still a small inter-network by 1993 making it easier
to go IPv4.

Noah
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From tamon at afrinic.net  Thu Jun  7 04:10:52 2018
From: tamon at afrinic.net (Mukom Akong T)
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 08:10:52 +0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Get Step-by-Step Help from AFRINIC with Your
 IPv6 Deployment
In-Reply-To: <19957658.384.1528287841581.JavaMail.centos23@DESKTOP-EHOIL5C>
References: <19957658.384.1528287841581.JavaMail.centos23@DESKTOP-EHOIL5C>
Message-ID: <40e85537-f210-4e41-966a-8c7636167aa9@Spark>

Bonjour Landry

On 6 Jun 2018, 16:25 +0400, IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>, wrote:
>
> Je te remercie pour ton mail qui vient encore une fois de plus nous encourager ? d?ployer IPv6.
> J'avais ?galement pris part aux atelier IPv6 ? Dakar et cela avait ?t? tr?s b?n?fique. Comme te le disais, nous devions comencer le d?ploiement IPv6 ? l'ANINF et au niveau du point d'?change.
> Depuis les ateliers de Dakar, nous avons effectivement commenc? au niveau de ces 2 entit?s.
>
> Pour ce que nous avons d?j? fait :
> 1. D?coupage des plages d'adresses selon les environnements ;
> 2. Peering avec nos 2 transitaires (Orange et Cogent) et annonce des prefixes IPv6 aux peers ;
> 3. Peering ?tabli entre l'ANINF et (GVA) au niveau du point d??change.


Felicitations, je vois votre prefix?2c0f:f948::/48


> La deuxi?me phase que nous souhaitons commencer consiste ? d?ployer IPv6 dans notre infrastructure de l'ANINF.
>
> Pour cela, nous sollicitons un support d'AFRINIC. Pour ce que nous avons d?j? fait ou ce qui reste ? faire, auriez-vous de bonnes pratiques (filtrage, politiques BGP, etc.) pour nous accompagner ?


Nous sommes pr?ts a vous guider ? toute commence par ici bit.ly/help6FR et quelqu?un de l??quipe sera en contact.



>
> Encore merci pour votre soutien
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From landry.lingombe at aninf.ga  Thu Jun  7 07:21:16 2018
From: landry.lingombe at aninf.ga (Landry Mexent NDOUMBOU LINGOMBE)
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 09:21:16 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Get Step-by-Step Help from AFRINIC with Your
 IPv6 Deployment
In-Reply-To: <40e85537-f210-4e41-966a-8c7636167aa9@Spark>
Message-ID: <1709102396.138.1528356075189.JavaMail.centos@centos-PC>

Bien re?u, merci !

----- Mail original -----
De: "Mukom Akong T" <tamon at afrinic.net>
?: "IPv6 in Africa Discussions" <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Envoy?: Jeudi 7 Juin 2018 05:10:52
Objet?: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Get Step-by-Step Help from AFRINIC with Your IPv6 Deployment



Bonjour Landry 


On 6 Jun 2018, 16:25 +0400, IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>, wrote: 




Je te remercie pour ton mail qui vient encore une fois de plus nous encourager ? d?ployer IPv6. 
J'avais ?galement pris part aux atelier IPv6 ? Dakar et cela avait ?t? tr?s b?n?fique. Comme te le disais, nous devions comencer le d?ploiement IPv6 ? l'ANINF et au niveau du point d'?change. 
Depuis les ateliers de Dakar, nous avons effectivement commenc? au niveau de ces 2 entit?s. 

Pour ce que nous avons d?j? fait : 
1. D?coupage des plages d'adresses selon les environnements ; 
2. Peering avec nos 2 transitaires (Orange et Cogent) et annonce des prefixes IPv6 aux peers ; 
3. Peering ?tabli entre l'ANINF et (GVA) au niveau du point d??change. 





Felicitations, je vois votre prefix 2c0f:f948::/48 






La deuxi?me phase que nous souhaitons commencer consiste ? d?ployer IPv6 dans notre infrastructure de l'ANINF. 

Pour cela, nous sollicitons un support d'AFRINIC. Pour ce que nous avons d?j? fait ou ce qui reste ? faire, auriez-vous de bonnes pratiques (filtrage, politiques BGP, etc.) pour nous accompagner ? 





Nous sommes pr?ts a vous guider ? toute commence par ici bit.ly/help6FR et quelqu?un de l??quipe sera en contact. 









Encore merci pour votre soutien 


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https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/afripv6-discuss

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From mangawilly at gmail.com  Sat Jun  9 10:29:53 2018
From: mangawilly at gmail.com (Willy MANGA)
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 11:29:53 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] ICANN IPv6 initiative
Message-ID: <1f01e58b-1570-d45f-be09-9ca87efce05b@gmail.com>

Hello,
is there someone who know how to request ICANN to update this page [1]?


1. https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/ipv6-initiative-2017-02-28-en

-- 
Willy Manga
@ongolaboy
https://ongola.blogspot.com/

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From mje at posix.co.za  Sat Jun  9 11:20:59 2018
From: mje at posix.co.za (Mark Elkins)
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 13:20:59 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] ICANN IPv6 initiative
In-Reply-To: <1f01e58b-1570-d45f-be09-9ca87efce05b@gmail.com>
References: <1f01e58b-1570-d45f-be09-9ca87efce05b@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a7b30f71-9836-966d-8eef-91190e3350a3@posix.co.za>

Copy it to Pierre Dandjinou ?


On 09/06/2018 12:29, Willy MANGA wrote:
> Hello,
> is there someone who know how to request ICANN to update this page [1]?
>
>
> 1. https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/ipv6-initiative-2017-02-28-en

-- 
Mark James ELKINS  -  Posix Systems - (South) Africa
mje at posix.co.za       Tel: +27.128070590  Cell: +27.826010496
For fast, reliable, low cost Internet in ZA: https://ftth.posix.co.za



From khansa060 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 11 11:32:37 2018
From: khansa060 at gmail.com (Khansa Abdalla)
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 13:32:37 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] SdNOG-5 - Call for Presentations /Papers
Message-ID: <CACsMurw6cvM3QmUMsDUtqhvTH_e+=GH5wyO3N8k_o021PVUW9Q@mail.gmail.com>

Dear All



SdNOG is a non-profit group that provides an  open forum to be used by any
interested member from the Internet Community in Sudan, to exchange   technical
information and expertise in inter-networking. It is managed and organized
by group of volunteers with the aim of capacity building and technology
development. [https://sdnog.sd]



The SdNOG Program

==================

Committee announces the opening of SdNOG-5 CFP,which will take place on 3rd
? 4th of October 2018 in Khartoum,Sudan. and is now seeking contributions
for Presentations.


We are looking for presenters who would:

   - Offer a technical tutorial on an appropriate topic;

   - Participate in the technical conference sessions as a speaker;

   - Convene and chair panel sessions of relevant topics.



CONFERENCE MILESTONES

=====================

   - Call for Papers Opens [31/May/2018]

   - Final Deadline for Submissions [15/Sep/2018]



PROGRAMME MATERIAL

====================

The SdNOG program is organized in two parts; tutorials and conference. To
pics for tutorials and the conference must be relevant to networks and
  Internet
Operations and  Technologies. All papers are welcomed except for the ones
that have promotional objectives orcopyrights infringement. The list below
gives example of some topics but it is not comprehensive:


   - Routing and operations

   - IPv6 deployment and transition technologies

   - IXPs and Peering

   - Virtualization and Cloud Computing

   - Internet ecosystem

   - Network security issues (NSP-SEC, DDoS, Anti-Spam,Anti-Malware)

   - DNS / DNSSEC

   - Internet governance and policies (Security, Regulation, Content
Management, Addressing, etc)

   - Any other topics



CfP SUBMISSION

==============

Draft slides for both tutorials and conference sessions MUST be provided
with CfP submissions

Otherwise, the Program Committee will be unable to review the submission.

All draft and complete slides must be submitted in PDF format only.

Final slides are to be provided by the specified deadline for publication
on the SdNOG website.



Please submit on-line at :https://papers.apia.org/user/login.php?event=75


Any questions or concerns should be addressed to the: info at sdnog.sd



We look forward to receiving your presentation proposals.

SdNOG program Committee.
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From fgont at si6networks.com  Mon Jun 11 14:31:10 2018
From: fgont at si6networks.com (Fernando Gont)
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 17:31:10 +0300
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Blog post: Advances in IPv6 Network Reconnaissance
Message-ID: <1e7cfb36-2df6-f44b-f56d-bd4f802f2380@si6networks.com>

Folks,

APNIC folks asked me to summarize some of my recent presentations on
"IPv6 network reconnaissance".

Due to the limited space for the article/post, I just tried to introduce
some new tools in the SI6 IPv6 toolkit
(https://www.si6networks.com/tools/ipv6tookit) with some practical examples.

Link:
<https://blog.apnic.net/2018/06/08/advances-in-ipv6-network-reconnaissance/>

Thanks!

Cheers,
-- 
Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
e-mail: fgont at si6networks.com
PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492






From daniel at afrinic.net  Tue Jun 12 06:17:58 2018
From: daniel at afrinic.net (Daniel Shaw)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 10:17:58 +0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Blog post: Advances in IPv6 Network
 Reconnaissance
In-Reply-To: <1e7cfb36-2df6-f44b-f56d-bd4f802f2380@si6networks.com>
References: <1e7cfb36-2df6-f44b-f56d-bd4f802f2380@si6networks.com>
Message-ID: <20F9ED3E-509B-4084-BB3E-ED265DECF488@afrinic.net>

On 11/06/2018, 18:31, Fernando Gont	typed:
> 
> Folks,
> 
> APNIC folks asked me to summarize some of my recent presentations on
> "IPv6 network reconnaissance".

Thanks for sharing!

- Daniel



From keopunana at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 12 14:09:15 2018
From: keopunana at yahoo.com (Punana Lebo)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 14:09:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] AfrIPv6-Discuss Digest, Vol 140, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1528804802.5918.afripv6-discuss@afrinic.net>
References: <mailman.1.1528804802.5918.afripv6-discuss@afrinic.net>
Message-ID: <1652085997.4199597.1528812555881@mail.yahoo.com>

 Thanks for sharing

    On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, 2:00:53 PM GMT+2, afripv6-discuss-request at afrinic.net <afripv6-discuss-request at afrinic.net> wrote:  
 
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 17:31:10 +0300
From: Fernando Gont <fgont at si6networks.com>
To: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Blog post: Advances in IPv6 Network
??? Reconnaissance
Message-ID: <1e7cfb36-2df6-f44b-f56d-bd4f802f2380 at si6networks.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Folks,

APNIC folks asked me to summarize some of my recent presentations on
"IPv6 network reconnaissance".

Due to the limited space for the article/post, I just tried to introduce
some new tools in the SI6 IPv6 toolkit
(https://www.si6networks.com/tools/ipv6tookit) with some practical examples.

Link:
<https://blog.apnic.net/2018/06/08/advances-in-ipv6-network-reconnaissance/>

Thanks!

Cheers,
-- 
Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
e-mail: fgont at si6networks.com
PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492







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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 10:17:58 +0400
From: Daniel Shaw <daniel at afrinic.net>
To: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Blog post: Advances in IPv6 Network
??? Reconnaissance
Message-ID: <20F9ED3E-509B-4084-BB3E-ED265DECF488 at afrinic.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On 11/06/2018, 18:31, Fernando Gont??? typed:
> 
> Folks,
> 
> APNIC folks asked me to summarize some of my recent presentations on
> "IPv6 network reconnaissance".

Thanks for sharing!

- Daniel




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From Mohamed.Farouk-Elsayed at vodafone.com  Sun Jun 10 09:50:11 2018
From: Mohamed.Farouk-Elsayed at vodafone.com (Mohamed Farouk-Elsayed, Vodafone Egypt)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 09:50:11 +0000
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] ICANN IPv6 initiative
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References: <1f01e58b-1570-d45f-be09-9ca87efce05b@gmail.com> 
 <a7b30f71-9836-966d-8eef-91190e3350a3@posix.co.za>
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Dear Team,

Kindly I need to stop receiving such mails.
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I stopped working with Afrinic 12 years ago.
I accessed https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/afripv6-discuss and I unsubscribed but nothing sent to my mail as mentioned.

Plz support to stop such series of mails.

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The future is exciting.?
Ready?


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Elkins [mailto:mje at posix.co.za] 
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 1:21 PM
To: IPv6 in Africa Discussions; Pierre Dandjinou
Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] ICANN IPv6 initiative

Copy it to Pierre Dandjinou ?


On 09/06/2018 12:29, Willy MANGA wrote:
> Hello,
> is there someone who know how to request ICANN to update this page [1]?
>
>
> 1. https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/ipv6-initiative-2017-02-28-en

-- 
Mark James ELKINS  -  Posix Systems - (South) Africa
mje at posix.co.za       Tel: +27.128070590  Cell: +27.826010496
For fast, reliable, low cost Internet in ZA: https://ftth.posix.co.za


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From mathias at houngbo.net  Mon Jun 18 07:42:54 2018
From: mathias at houngbo.net (Mathias HOUNGBO)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 08:42:54 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] ICANN IPv6 initiative
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From mark.tinka at seacom.mu  Wed Jun 20 15:14:39 2018
From: mark.tinka at seacom.mu (Mark Tinka)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 17:14:39 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] SAFNOG-4 + EANOG,
	tzNOG & TISPA Meeting Announcement
Message-ID: <dbcbfe32-ba2a-5a3f-1fba-c964d83ba5e8@seacom.mu>

Hello all.

It gives me great pleasure to announce that SAFNOG-4, in collaboration
with EANOG (East Africa Network Operators Group) and tzNOG (Tanzania
Network Operators Group), and hosted by TISPA (Tanzania Internet Service
Providers Association) will be held between the 24th - 29th September,
2018, in the warm and sunny city of Dar Es Salaam, Tanzania.

What is exciting about this year's SAFNOG meeting is that it will be
partnering with EANOG and tzNOG, to include both plenary and workshop
sessions during the week, as part of the agenda.

The main plenary meeting will be held at the Hyatt Regency Dar Es Salaam
hotel between 24th - 26th September, while the the workshop will be held
at the Bank of Tanzania building between 26th - 29th September, 2018.

Details about the event registration and agenda will be made available
at these locations:

??? - www.safnog.org
??? - www.tznog.or.tz
??? - www.eanog.org

Please mark your calendars.

SAFNOG, EANOG, tzNOG and TISPA look forward to seeing you in Dar Es Salaam.

Cheers,

Mark Tinka
On Behalf of the SAFNOG/EANOG/tzNOG Organizing Committee
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From mark.tinka at seacom.mu  Wed Jul  4 12:43:46 2018
From: mark.tinka at seacom.mu (Mark Tinka)
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 14:43:46 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] SAFNOG-4 + EANOG, tzNOG & TISPA Call for Papers!
Message-ID: <e18c5494-7845-988d-9b61-3424f682430d@seacom.mu>

Hello all.

The SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG Programme Committee are now seeking
contributions for Presentations and Tutorials for the
SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG 2018 Conference.

We are looking for presenters who would:

??? - Offer a technical tutorial on an appropriate topic;
??? - Participate in the technical conference sessions as a speaker;
??? - Convene and chair panel sessions of relevant topics.

??????????????????????????????????????? *Conference Milestones*
??????????????????? Call for Papers Opens???????????????? Now
??????????????????? Draft Program Published???????????? As papers are
confirmed
??????????????????? Final Deadline for Submissions??? 10 September, 2018??
??????????????????? Final Program Published???????????? 17 September, 2018
??????????????????? Final Slides Received????????????????? 21 September,
2018

NOTE THAT REGARDLESS OF DEADLINES, SLOTS ARE FILLED ON A FIRST COME,
FIRST SERVED BASIS

*Program Material*

The SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG Conference Programme consists of two parts,
these being the Tutorials and Conference Tracks.

Topics proposed must be relevant to Internet Operations and Technologies:

??? - IPv4 / IPv6 Routing and Operations
??? - IPv6 deployment and transition technologies
??? - Internet backbone operations
??? - ISP and Carrier services
??? - IXPs and Peering
??? - Research on Internet Operations and Deployment
??? - Software Defined Networking / Network Function Virtualisaton
??? - Network security issues (NSP-SEC, DDoS, Anti-Spam, Anti-Malware)
??? - DNS / DNSSEC
??? - Internet policy (Security, Regulation, Content Management,
Addressing, etc)
??? - Access and Transport Technologies, including Cable/DSL, LTE/5G,
wireless, metro ethernet, fibre, segment routing
??? - Content & Service Delivery (Multicast, Voice, Video,
"telepresence", Gaming) and Cloud Computing

*CfP Submissions*

Draft slides for both tutorials and conference sessions MUST be provided
with CfP submissions otherwise the Programme Committee will be unable to
review the submission. For avoidance of doubt this means that
submissions which do not include slides will be rejected immediately.
For work in progress, the most current information available at time of
submission is acceptable.

All draft and complete slides must be submitted in PDF format only

Final slides are to be provided by the specified deadline for
publication on the SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG websites.

Prospective presenters should note that the majority of speaking slots
will be filled well before the final submission deadline. The PC may, at
their discretion, retain a limited number of slots up to the final
submission deadline for presentations that are exceptionally timely,
important, or of critical operational importance. Every year we turn
away submissions, due to filling up all available programme slots before
the deadline. Presenters should endeavour to get material into the PC
sooner rather than later.

Any questions or concerns should be addressed to the Programme Committee
by e-mail at:

??????????????????????????????????????????? *pc-chairs at safnog.org*

We look forward to receiving your presentation proposals.

Cheers,

Mark Tinka
On Behalf of the SAFNOG/EANOG/tzNOG Organizing Committee
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From mark.tinka at seacom.mu  Wed Jul  4 17:29:46 2018
From: mark.tinka at seacom.mu (Mark Tinka)
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 19:29:46 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] SAFNOG-4 + EANOG,
	tzNOG & TISPA Call for Papers! - Update!
In-Reply-To: <e18c5494-7845-988d-9b61-3424f682430d@seacom.mu>
References: <e18c5494-7845-988d-9b61-3424f682430d@seacom.mu>
Message-ID: <1b9762c9-ed11-8c59-57c2-14d498832c11@seacom.mu>

As an update:

Please note you can submit your papers at the URL below:

??? https://papers.safnog.org/user/login.php?event=76

Mark.

On 4/Jul/18 14:43, Mark Tinka wrote:
> Hello all.
>
> The SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG Programme Committee are now seeking
> contributions for Presentations and Tutorials for the
> SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG 2018 Conference.
>
> We are looking for presenters who would:
>
> ??? - Offer a technical tutorial on an appropriate topic;
> ??? - Participate in the technical conference sessions as a speaker;
> ??? - Convene and chair panel sessions of relevant topics.
>
> ??????????????????????????????????????? *Conference Milestones*
> ??????????????????? Call for Papers Opens???????????????? Now
> ??????????????????? Draft Program Published???????????? As papers are
> confirmed
> ??????????????????? Final Deadline for Submissions??? 10 September,
> 2018??
> ??????????????????? Final Program Published???????????? 17 September, 2018
> ??????????????????? Final Slides Received????????????????? 21
> September, 2018
>
> NOTE THAT REGARDLESS OF DEADLINES, SLOTS ARE FILLED ON A FIRST COME,
> FIRST SERVED BASIS
>
> *Program Material*
>
> The SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG Conference Programme consists of two parts,
> these being the Tutorials and Conference Tracks.
>
> Topics proposed must be relevant to Internet Operations and Technologies:
>
> ??? - IPv4 / IPv6 Routing and Operations
> ??? - IPv6 deployment and transition technologies
> ??? - Internet backbone operations
> ??? - ISP and Carrier services
> ??? - IXPs and Peering
> ??? - Research on Internet Operations and Deployment
> ??? - Software Defined Networking / Network Function Virtualisaton
> ??? - Network security issues (NSP-SEC, DDoS, Anti-Spam, Anti-Malware)
> ??? - DNS / DNSSEC
> ??? - Internet policy (Security, Regulation, Content Management,
> Addressing, etc)
> ??? - Access and Transport Technologies, including Cable/DSL, LTE/5G,
> wireless, metro ethernet, fibre, segment routing
> ??? - Content & Service Delivery (Multicast, Voice, Video,
> "telepresence", Gaming) and Cloud Computing
>
> *CfP Submissions*
>
> Draft slides for both tutorials and conference sessions MUST be
> provided with CfP submissions otherwise the Programme Committee will
> be unable to review the submission. For avoidance of doubt this means
> that submissions which do not include slides will be rejected
> immediately. For work in progress, the most current information
> available at time of submission is acceptable.
>
> All draft and complete slides must be submitted in PDF format only
>
> Final slides are to be provided by the specified deadline for
> publication on the SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG websites.
>
> Prospective presenters should note that the majority of speaking slots
> will be filled well before the final submission deadline. The PC may,
> at their discretion, retain a limited number of slots up to the final
> submission deadline for presentations that are exceptionally timely,
> important, or of critical operational importance. Every year we turn
> away submissions, due to filling up all available programme slots
> before the deadline. Presenters should endeavour to get material into
> the PC sooner rather than later.
>
> Any questions or concerns should be addressed to the Programme
> Committee by e-mail at:
>
> ??????????????????????????????????????????? *pc-chairs at safnog.org*
>
> We look forward to receiving your presentation proposals.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark Tinka
> On Behalf of the SAFNOG/EANOG/tzNOG Organizing Committee

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From s.dechi at telecom.gouv.ci  Wed Jul 18 11:05:54 2018
From: s.dechi at telecom.gouv.ci (Serge Dechi)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 11:05:54 +0000
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] info
Message-ID: <DB3PR0302MB34505D09681612CB08CDED6EBC530@DB3PR0302MB3450.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com>

Nous sommes bloquee comment relancer la migration d IPV6
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From tamon at afrinic.net  Mon Jul 23 08:56:30 2018
From: tamon at afrinic.net (Mukom Akong T)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 12:56:30 +0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] info
In-Reply-To: <DB3PR0302MB34505D09681612CB08CDED6EBC530@DB3PR0302MB3450.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DB3PR0302MB34505D09681612CB08CDED6EBC530@DB3PR0302MB3450.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <efaff790-6831-48ae-a91f-2d29d115638e@Spark>

On 23 Jul 2018, 12:07 +0400, Serge Dechi <s.dechi at telecom.gouv.ci>, wrote:
> Nous sommes bloquee comment relancer la migration d IPV6

Salut Serge

Faite une demande du support at bit.ly/help6FR et preciser votre souci et on va vous accompagner.


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From mark.tinka at seacom.mu  Thu Aug  2 06:13:33 2018
From: mark.tinka at seacom.mu (Mark Tinka)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 08:13:33 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG Registration Now Open!
Message-ID: <649fc881-ad27-f9ba-9ec1-5b319d794a24@seacom.mu>

Hi all.

Pleased to inform you that registration for the upcoming
SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG meeting in Dar Es Salaam, 24th - 29th September, is
now open.

You may register at the URL below:

??? http://www.safnog.org/

We look forward to seeing you there.

Mark.
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From compsoftnet at gmail.com  Thu Aug  2 12:17:14 2018
From: compsoftnet at gmail.com (Akinremi Peter Taiwo)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 13:17:14 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG Registration Now Open!
In-Reply-To: <649fc881-ad27-f9ba-9ec1-5b319d794a24@seacom.mu>
References: <649fc881-ad27-f9ba-9ec1-5b319d794a24@seacom.mu>
Message-ID: <CAGK4d08SU6TJ2WWwttzvb6aO2pn3cEWgzSLr2BAk0nZyy6pjNQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Mar for sharing. Is there any form of fellowship available to attend
this conference?

Regards
Peter

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 7:13 AM, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka at seacom.mu> wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> Pleased to inform you that registration for the upcoming
> SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG meeting in Dar Es Salaam, 24th - 29th September, is
> now open.
>
> You may register at the URL below:
>
>     http://www.safnog.org/
>
> We look forward to seeing you there.
>
> Mark.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> AfrIPv6-Discuss at afrinic.net
> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/afripv6-discuss
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From ahgod at yahoo.fr  Wed Aug  8 11:02:57 2018
From: ahgod at yahoo.fr (Ah God)
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 11:02:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] AfrIPv6-Discuss Digest, Vol 140, Issue 7
References: <1336296220.5891885.1533726177986.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1336296220.5891885.1533726177986@mail.yahoo.com>


Thanks for Sharing Folks.


Do you know How to leverage a Certificate Transparency?

Certificate Transparency (CT) helps to address some structural problems in the certificate system. 

Regards
Godefroy AHOUMENOU



 On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, 2:00:53 PM GMT+2, afripv6-discuss-request at afrinic.net <afripv6-discuss-request at afrinic.net> wrote:  
 
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  1. Blog post: Advances in IPv6 Network Reconnaissance (Fernando Gont)
  2. Re: Blog post: Advances in IPv6 Network Reconnaissance
      (Daniel Shaw)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 17:31:10 +0300
From: Fernando Gont <fgont at si6networks.com>
To: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Blog post: Advances in IPv6 Network
    Reconnaissance
Message-ID: <1e7cfb36-2df6-f44b-f56d-bd4f802f2380 at si6networks.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Folks,

APNIC folks asked me to summarize some of my recent presentations on
"IPv6 network reconnaissance".

Due to the limited space for the article/post, I just tried to introduce
some new tools in the SI6 IPv6 toolkit
(https://www.si6networks.com/tools/ipv6tookit) with some practical examples.

Link:
<https://blog.apnic.net/2018/06/08/advances-in-ipv6-network-reconnaissance/>

Thanks!

Cheers,
-- 
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SI6 Networks
e-mail: fgont at si6networks.com
PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492







From fgont at si6networks.com  Wed Aug  8 12:48:47 2018
From: fgont at si6networks.com (Fernando Gont)
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 14:48:47 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Article: Mismatches in IPv6/IPv4 security policies
Message-ID: <809b7d1b-4277-b537-b61c-317663e0b120@si6networks.com>

Folks,

FYI, here's a pointer to an article I wrote for Techtarget about
mismatches in IPv6/IPv4 security policies:
<https://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/tip/What-to-do-when-IPV4-and-IPv6-policies-disagree>


P.S.: Scroll down the page... the whole article is available for free.

Thanks!

Best regards,
-- 
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SI6 Networks
e-mail: fgont at si6networks.com
PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492






From ahgod at yahoo.fr  Thu Aug  9 15:38:47 2018
From: ahgod at yahoo.fr (Ah God)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 15:38:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Article: Mismatches in IPv6/IPv4 security
 policies
In-Reply-To: <809b7d1b-4277-b537-b61c-317663e0b120@si6networks.com>
References: <809b7d1b-4277-b537-b61c-317663e0b120@si6networks.com>
Message-ID: <618167737.7071648.1533829127753@mail.yahoo.com>

Hello Fernando Gont,
This is a good article.It is with great interest that i have read it . Here is my concern :will we get ?a shift in cyber attacks, viruses?

Thanks!

Best regards,
Godefroy AHOUMENOU

 

    Le mercredi 8 ao?t 2018 ? 14:09:55 UTC+1, Fernando Gont <fgont at si6networks.com> a ?crit :  
 
 Folks,

FYI, here's a pointer to an article I wrote for Techtarget about
mismatches in IPv6/IPv4 security policies:
<https://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/tip/What-to-do-when-IPV4-and-IPv6-policies-disagree>


P.S.: Scroll down the page... the whole article is available for free.

Thanks!

Best regards,
-- 
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SI6 Networks
e-mail: fgont at si6networks.com
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From adisabolutifeo at gmail.com  Thu Aug 16 16:44:39 2018
From: adisabolutifeo at gmail.com (Bolutife Adisa)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:44:39 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] =?utf-8?q?Update_on_=E2=80=9CIPv6_deployment_in?=
	=?utf-8?b?IE5pZ2VyaWHigJ0=?=
Message-ID: <4CAEB4FC-F6FD-469E-B73C-C283D67A8800@gmail.com>

Hi folks,

FYI ?There are fifty networks in Nigeria that have acquired IPV6 out of which only five networks are active. Also, five networks out of 134 Autonomous Systems in the country are currently using IPv6.?

Check out ?Communique of Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum series 2018 - Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable?
https://www.itrealms.com.ng/2018/06/communique-of-nigeria-digitalsense.html?m=1

Kind regards 
???-
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From tamon at afrinic.net  Fri Aug 17 07:05:50 2018
From: tamon at afrinic.net (Mukom Akong T)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 11:05:50 +0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Update on
 =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=9CIPv6_?=deployment in =?utf-8?Q?Nigeria=E2=80=9D?=
In-Reply-To: <4CAEB4FC-F6FD-469E-B73C-C283D67A8800@gmail.com>
References: <4CAEB4FC-F6FD-469E-B73C-C283D67A8800@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <330ed5d9-40c1-41c3-bd5b-d37637288d36@Spark>

On 16 Aug 2018, 20:45 +0400, IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>, wrote:
>
> FYI??There are fifty networks in Nigeria that have acquired IPV6 out of which only five networks are active. Also,?five networks out of 134 Autonomous Systems in the country are currently using IPv6.?


Any organisation that is ready to actually DO IPv6, and is committed to doing it will get 100% free step by step guidance from AFRINIC. Make a request at


English ? bit.ly/6deployEN

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From oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng  Sat Aug 18 12:31:28 2018
From: oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng (ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2018 13:31:28 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss]
	=?utf-8?q?Update_on_=E2=80=9CIPv6_deployment_in?=
	=?utf-8?b?IE5pZ2VyaWHigJ0=?=
In-Reply-To: <4CAEB4FC-F6FD-469E-B73C-C283D67A8800@gmail.com>
References: <4CAEB4FC-F6FD-469E-B73C-C283D67A8800@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAES4e9kP5nfUMFXfXxr011LpWr4TMKEHkxs8jtmONxuQkLZRug@mail.gmail.com>

HI,
Thank for sending the communique and I hope you would be able to
achieve what you have set out in the way forward.
I would just like to add that it would be good if you can also talk to
organisations like Ng REN to encourage them to use IPV6 as Universities are
major players when it comes to usage in Nigeria.
Thanks

Abdulkarim

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Bolutife Adisa <adisabolutifeo at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> FYI ?There are fifty networks in Nigeria that have acquired IPV6 out of
> which only five networks are active. Also, five networks out of 134
> Autonomous Systems in the country are currently using IPv6.?
>
> Check out ?Communique of Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum series 2018 - Nigeria
> IPv6 Roundtable?
> https://www.itrealms.com.ng/2018/06/communique-of-nigeria-
> digitalsense.html?m=1
>
> Kind regards
> ???-
> Adisa Bolutife.
>
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From adisabolutifeo at gmail.com  Sun Aug 19 15:05:06 2018
From: adisabolutifeo at gmail.com (Bolutife Adisa)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 16:05:06 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss]
 =?utf-8?q?Update_on_=E2=80=9CIPv6_deployment_in?=
 =?utf-8?b?IE5pZ2VyaWHigJ0=?=
In-Reply-To: <CAES4e9kP5nfUMFXfXxr011LpWr4TMKEHkxs8jtmONxuQkLZRug@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4CAEB4FC-F6FD-469E-B73C-C283D67A8800@gmail.com>
 <CAES4e9kP5nfUMFXfXxr011LpWr4TMKEHkxs8jtmONxuQkLZRug@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1B180574-8350-43C3-974F-D4CF13BF6931@gmail.com>

Good day,
I believe NgRen had a representative at the event as well, and I am certain, they are working actively to help their University clients to make the switch to IPV6. Hopefully, progress would be made soon. 

Regards
Bolutife Adisa.

> On 18 Aug 2018, at 1:31 PM, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
> 
> HI,
> Thank for sending the communique and I hope you would be able to achieve what you have set out in the way forward. 
> I would just like to add that it would be good if you can also talk to organisations like Ng REN to encourage them to use IPV6 as Universities are major players when it comes to usage in Nigeria.
> Thanks
> 
> Abdulkarim
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Bolutife Adisa <adisabolutifeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> FYI ?There are fifty networks in Nigeria that have acquired IPV6 out of which only five networks are active. Also, five networks out of 134 Autonomous Systems in the country are currently using IPv6.?
>> 
>> Check out ?Communique of Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum series 2018 - Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable?
>> https://www.itrealms.com.ng/2018/06/communique-of-nigeria-digitalsense.html?m=1
>> 
>> Kind regards 
>> ???-
>> Adisa Bolutife. 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> AfrIPv6-Discuss mailing list
>> AfrIPv6-Discuss at afrinic.net
>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/afripv6-discuss
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> Department of Telecommunications Science/Vice Chairman, Telecommunications  Development Advisory Group(TDAG), International Telecommunication Union (ITU).
> University of Ilorin.
> Ilorin, Nigeria
> Alternative Emails: olouss at yahoo.com  OR  aao500 at york.ac.uk
> 
> 
> Website, Weekly Bulletin UGPortal PGPortal
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From adisabolutifeo at gmail.com  Sun Aug 19 15:07:58 2018
From: adisabolutifeo at gmail.com (Bolutife Adisa)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2018 16:07:58 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss]
 =?utf-8?q?Update_on_=E2=80=9CIPv6_deployment_in?=
 =?utf-8?b?IE5pZ2VyaWHigJ0=?=
In-Reply-To: <330ed5d9-40c1-41c3-bd5b-d37637288d36@Spark>
References: <4CAEB4FC-F6FD-469E-B73C-C283D67A8800@gmail.com>
 <330ed5d9-40c1-41c3-bd5b-d37637288d36@Spark>
Message-ID: <761869E3-23F2-4516-B9F1-40299DB5FD94@gmail.com>

A big kudos to AFRINIC on this one, and thanks a lot for sharing. The links will come in handy in our advocacy programs. 

Regards 
Bolutife Adisa.

> On 17 Aug 2018, at 8:05 AM, Mukom Akong T <tamon at afrinic.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 16 Aug 2018, 20:45 +0400, IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>, wrote:
>> 
>> FYI ?There are fifty networks in Nigeria that have acquired IPV6 out of which only five networks are active. Also, five networks out of 134 Autonomous Systems in the country are currently using IPv6.? 
> 
> 
> Any organisation that is ready to actually DO IPv6, and is committed to doing it will get 100% free step by step guidance from AFRINIC. Make a request at
> 
> 
> English ? bit.ly/6deployEN
> 
> French ? bit.ly/6deployFR
> 
> 
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From remmyn at gmail.com  Sat Aug 18 15:02:51 2018
From: remmyn at gmail.com (Remmy Nweke)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2018 16:02:51 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss]
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In-Reply-To: <CAES4e9kP5nfUMFXfXxr011LpWr4TMKEHkxs8jtmONxuQkLZRug@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4CAEB4FC-F6FD-469E-B73C-C283D67A8800@gmail.com>
 <CAES4e9kP5nfUMFXfXxr011LpWr4TMKEHkxs8jtmONxuQkLZRug@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMc__oqe9eZsHxeOAGfZva9XNhr6oKTjKCYtkxUwckv5rcVAKQ@mail.gmail.com>

Comment Noted with thanks.
Remmy

On 18 Aug 2018 1:36 pm, "ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE" <
oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:

HI,
Thank for sending the communique and I hope you would be able to
achieve what you have set out in the way forward.
I would just like to add that it would be good if you can also talk to
organisations like Ng REN to encourage them to use IPV6 as Universities are
major players when it comes to usage in Nigeria.
Thanks

Abdulkarim

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Bolutife Adisa <adisabolutifeo at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> FYI ?There are fifty networks in Nigeria that have acquired IPV6 out of
> which only five networks are active. Also, five networks out of 134
> Autonomous Systems in the country are currently using IPv6.?
>
> Check out ?Communique of Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum series 2018 - Nigeria
> IPv6 Roundtable?
>
> https://www.itrealms.com.ng/2018/06/communique-of-nigeria-digitalsense.html?m=1
>
> Kind regards
> ???-
> Adisa Bolutife.
>
> _______________________________________________
> AfrIPv6-Discuss mailing list
> AfrIPv6-Discuss at afrinic.net
> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/afripv6-discuss
>
>


-- 
*Dr. Abdulkarim A.Oloyede*. *B. Eng (BUK), M.Sc (York), Ph.D. (York),
R.Eng, A+*
*Department of Telecommunications Science/Vice
Chairman, Telecommunications  Development Advisory Group(TDAG), **International
Telecommunication Union (ITU).*
*University of Ilorin.*
*Ilorin, Nigeria*
*Alternative Emails: olouss at yahoo.com <olouss at yahoo.com>  OR
 aao500 at york.ac.uk <aao500 at york.ac.uk>*


Website <http://www.unilorin.edu.ng>, Weekly Bulletin
<http://www.unilorin.edu.ng/index.php/bulletin> UGPortal
<http://uilugportal.unilorin.edu.ng/> PGPortal
<https://uilpgportal.unilorin.edu.ng/>

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From elmoudden.ab at gmail.com  Fri Aug 17 20:08:01 2018
From: elmoudden.ab at gmail.com (Abdellah EL MOUDDEN)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 21:08:01 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] references and books
Message-ID: <CAKMex-V4ufZmkyVkH3zGO1GUxZZERD77npGeJw-htpg37N3_kQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I want references and books on fast moving to IPv6

cordially
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From elmoudden.ab at gmail.com  Sat Aug 18 15:29:05 2018
From: elmoudden.ab at gmail.com (Abdellah EL MOUDDEN)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2018 16:29:05 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Post to this list
Message-ID: <CAKMex-XZ8mNy_9fagDtwa02xnLub3pYAkiTDrhEMHFFqum6ptQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I want to post to this list:  afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net
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From tamon at afrinic.net  Tue Aug 21 10:33:29 2018
From: tamon at afrinic.net (Mukom Akong T)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 14:33:29 +0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] references and books
In-Reply-To: <CAKMex-V4ufZmkyVkH3zGO1GUxZZERD77npGeJw-htpg37N3_kQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKMex-V4ufZmkyVkH3zGO1GUxZZERD77npGeJw-htpg37N3_kQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e05aef7b-43b4-4410-8a94-90b8435e557d@Spark>

Hello Abdella

Some more detail would have been useful. What?s the immediate problem you are trying to accomplish?

- actually deploy IPv6?
- just get knowledge?

If you are just getting started? any recent (last 3 years) book on IPv6 will be a good start, then you can update that with RFCs from IPv6Ops working group
On 21 Aug 2018, 12:32 +0400, IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>, wrote:
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From noah at neo.co.tz  Tue Aug 21 10:29:20 2018
From: noah at neo.co.tz (Noah)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 13:29:20 +0300
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] references and books
In-Reply-To: <CAKMex-V4ufZmkyVkH3zGO1GUxZZERD77npGeJw-htpg37N3_kQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKMex-V4ufZmkyVkH3zGO1GUxZZERD77npGeJw-htpg37N3_kQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEqgTWar+SdBHEu4xSfxfOUpYkJBptOOQgjck9JpuiXJnhgm5Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 11:08 PM, Abdellah EL MOUDDEN <
elmoudden.ab at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> I want references and books on fast moving to IPv6
>
https://www.internetsociety.org/deploy360/ipv6/

https://www.internetsociety.org/tutorials/introduction-to-ipv6



> cordially
> ?
>
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From jordi.palet at consulintel.es  Tue Aug 21 12:20:09 2018
From: jordi.palet at consulintel.es (JORDI PALET MARTINEZ)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 07:20:09 -0500
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] references and books
In-Reply-To: <CAKMex-V4ufZmkyVkH3zGO1GUxZZERD77npGeJw-htpg37N3_kQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKMex-V4ufZmkyVkH3zGO1GUxZZERD77npGeJw-htpg37N3_kQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7B62BBAC-C1CC-41DB-96C8-03762A731618@consulintel.es>

http://www.ipv6tf.org/index.php?page=news/newsroom&id=8281

 

http://theipv6company.com/ipv6/dissemination??????????? 

 


Regards,

Jordi

 

 

 

De: Abdellah EL MOUDDEN <elmoudden.ab at gmail.com>
Responder a: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Fecha: martes, 21 de agosto de 2018, 3:36
Para: <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Asunto: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] references and books

 

 

Hello,  

 

I want references and books on fast moving to IPv6

 

cordially

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From willy.konga at aninf.ga  Tue Aug 21 13:01:58 2018
From: willy.konga at aninf.ga (Willy KONGA)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 15:01:58 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] references and books
In-Reply-To: <CAKMex-V4ufZmkyVkH3zGO1GUxZZERD77npGeJw-htpg37N3_kQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1894345880.40671625.1534856518315.JavaMail.root@aninf.ga>

Hi, 
You can find many documentation about IPv6 on the RIPE, AFRINIC or APNIC web site. For exemple on apnic you can find this : https://www.apnic.net/get-ip/faqs/ipv6-documentation-prefix/ . 


Also you can find an excellent course about ipv6 on https://networklessons.com/ipv6/. 


Best regards. 


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From: "Abdellah EL MOUDDEN" <elmoudden.ab at gmail.com> 
To: afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net 
Sent: Friday, 17 August, 2018 9:08:01 PM 
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] references and books 





Hello, 


I want references and books on fast moving to IPv6 



cordially 

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From lee.howard at retevia.net  Tue Aug 21 15:17:05 2018
From: lee.howard at retevia.net (Lee Howard)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 11:17:05 -0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] references and books
In-Reply-To: <CAKMex-V4ufZmkyVkH3zGO1GUxZZERD77npGeJw-htpg37N3_kQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKMex-V4ufZmkyVkH3zGO1GUxZZERD77npGeJw-htpg37N3_kQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d475f75f-0f54-ceeb-3f4e-483320c6e323@retevia.net>

Good question. My answer last year was here: 
http://www.wleecoyote.com/blog/IPv6reading.html

With less than a day of reading, you will understand enough about IPv6 
to get to work. The rest will be adapting your specific configurations 
and reading documentation. Updated links/notes below:

1. draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis 
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis/?include_text=1>, 
"IPv6 Address Architecture." Sure, you could read RFC4291, but this 
draft is pretty close to done, and contains all the current updates.

2. RFC4861 <https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4861.txt>, "Neighbor Discovery." 
It's long, at almost 100 pages, but you can probably skip most of the 
packet format stuff. If you understand the stuff in this document, 
including ND, DAD, RS, RA, NS, NA, then you have a solid understanding 
of IPv6.

3. You need both of these in order to understand how magically hosts get 
provisioned:

  * RFC4862 <https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4862.txt>, "IPv6 Stateless
    Address Autoconfiguration" or "SLAAC", and
  * RFC8106 <https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc8106.txt>, "The RDNSS Option in
    RA".

4. RFC3315 <https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3315.txt>, "DHCPv6". You should 
know IA_NA and IA_PD. You should learn as much about DHCPv6 as you know 
about DHCP. One of the interesting parts is how DHCPv6 options can be 
used to provision transition mechanisms (but that's another post).

5. RFC8201 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8201/> "Path MTU 
Discovery". Understanding this will let you troubleshoot the most common 
IPv6 problem.


For extra credit:RFC8200 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8200/>, 
"IPv6 Specification". I'm sure it sounds weird to say that the base spec 
is extra credit, but other than packet structure, the important stuff 
here is Extension Headers and flow labels, and there aren't many 
practical uses for those yet. If you want to think of creative uses for 
IPv6, then you should look into those. But if you've read the full list 
up to this point, you have enough information to design, build, and 
operate an IPv6 network. Advice is included in several deployment 
guidelines, but AfriNIC probably has the best direct support anywhere, 
and you can't beat the price.

Lee


On 08/17/2018 04:08 PM, Abdellah EL MOUDDEN wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I want references and books on fast moving to IPv6
>
> cordially
> ?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> AfrIPv6-Discuss mailing list
> AfrIPv6-Discuss at afrinic.net
> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/afripv6-discuss

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From greg.antic at stc.za.com  Tue Sep  4 18:39:45 2018
From: greg.antic at stc.za.com (Greg Antic)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 18:39:45 +0000
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] references and books
In-Reply-To: <d475f75f-0f54-ceeb-3f4e-483320c6e323@retevia.net>
References: <CAKMex-V4ufZmkyVkH3zGO1GUxZZERD77npGeJw-htpg37N3_kQ@mail.gmail.com>,
 <d475f75f-0f54-ceeb-3f4e-483320c6e323@retevia.net>
Message-ID: <196e01a735b24d66bb1a09ffe45a9d37@stc.za.com>

Thanks all. Can anyone suggest a netflow tool for v6?


________________________________
From: Lee Howard <lee.howard at retevia.net>
Sent: 21 August 2018 17:17
To: afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net
Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] references and books


Good question. My answer last year was here: http://www.wleecoyote.com/blog/IPv6reading.html

With less than a day of reading, you will understand enough about IPv6 to get to work. The rest will be adapting your specific configurations and reading documentation. Updated links/notes below:

1. draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis/?include_text=1>, "IPv6 Address Architecture." Sure, you could read RFC4291, but this draft is pretty close to done, and contains all the current updates.

2. RFC4861<https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4861.txt>, "Neighbor Discovery." It's long, at almost 100 pages, but you can probably skip most of the packet format stuff. If you understand the stuff in this document, including ND, DAD, RS, RA, NS, NA, then you have a solid understanding of IPv6.

3. You need both of these in order to understand how magically hosts get provisioned:

  *   RFC4862<https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4862.txt>, "IPv6 Stateless Address Autoconfiguration" or "SLAAC", and
  *   RFC8106<https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc8106.txt>, "The RDNSS Option in RA".

4. RFC3315<https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3315.txt>, "DHCPv6". You should know IA_NA and IA_PD. You should learn as much about DHCPv6 as you know about DHCP. One of the interesting parts is how DHCPv6 options can be used to provision transition mechanisms (but that's another post).

5. RFC8201<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8201/> "Path MTU Discovery". Understanding this will let you troubleshoot the most common IPv6 problem.

For extra credit: RFC8200<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8200/>, "IPv6 Specification". I'm sure it sounds weird to say that the base spec is extra credit, but other than packet structure, the important stuff here is Extension Headers and flow labels, and there aren't many practical uses for those yet. If you want to think of creative uses for IPv6, then you should look into those. But if you've read the full list up to this point, you have enough information to design, build, and operate an IPv6 network. Advice is included in several deployment guidelines, but AfriNIC probably has the best direct support anywhere, and you can't beat the price.

Lee


On 08/17/2018 04:08 PM, Abdellah EL MOUDDEN wrote:

Hello,

I want references and books on fast moving to IPv6

cordially
[https://mailfoogae.appspot.com/t?sender=aZWxtb3VkZGVuLmFiQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ%3D%3D&type=zerocontent&guid=112593ed-890e-48c7-ba6c-5cfac1fd4dd9]?



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From greg.antic at stc.za.com  Wed Sep  5 08:16:33 2018
From: greg.antic at stc.za.com (Greg Antic)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 08:16:33 +0000
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] references and books
In-Reply-To: <d475f75f-0f54-ceeb-3f4e-483320c6e323@retevia.net>
References: <CAKMex-V4ufZmkyVkH3zGO1GUxZZERD77npGeJw-htpg37N3_kQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <d475f75f-0f54-ceeb-3f4e-483320c6e323@retevia.net>
Message-ID: <78c8f787d04b4adc8472f5730e4d47a3@stc.za.com>

Thanks all, can anyone suggest a netflow tool for v6?

From: Lee Howard <lee.howard at retevia.net>
Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2018 5:17 PM
To: afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net
Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] references and books


Good question. My answer last year was here: http://www.wleecoyote.com/blog/IPv6reading.html

With less than a day of reading, you will understand enough about IPv6 to get to work. The rest will be adapting your specific configurations and reading documentation. Updated links/notes below:

1. draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6man-rfc4291bis/?include_text=1>, "IPv6 Address Architecture." Sure, you could read RFC4291, but this draft is pretty close to done, and contains all the current updates.

2. RFC4861<https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4861.txt>, "Neighbor Discovery." It's long, at almost 100 pages, but you can probably skip most of the packet format stuff. If you understand the stuff in this document, including ND, DAD, RS, RA, NS, NA, then you have a solid understanding of IPv6.
3. You need both of these in order to understand how magically hosts get provisioned:
?         RFC4862<https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4862.txt>, "IPv6 Stateless Address Autoconfiguration" or "SLAAC", and
?         RFC8106<https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc8106.txt>, "The RDNSS Option in RA".

4. RFC3315<https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3315.txt>, "DHCPv6". You should know IA_NA and IA_PD. You should learn as much about DHCPv6 as you know about DHCP. One of the interesting parts is how DHCPv6 options can be used to provision transition mechanisms (but that's another post).

5. RFC8201<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8201/> "Path MTU Discovery". Understanding this will let you troubleshoot the most common IPv6 problem.

For extra credit: RFC8200<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8200/>, "IPv6 Specification". I'm sure it sounds weird to say that the base spec is extra credit, but other than packet structure, the important stuff here is Extension Headers and flow labels, and there aren't many practical uses for those yet. If you want to think of creative uses for IPv6, then you should look into those. But if you've read the full list up to this point, you have enough information to design, build, and operate an IPv6 network. Advice is included in several deployment guidelines, but AfriNIC probably has the best direct support anywhere, and you can't beat the price.

Lee

On 08/17/2018 04:08 PM, Abdellah EL MOUDDEN wrote:

Hello,

I want references and books on fast moving to IPv6

cordially
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From tamon at afrinic.net  Fri Sep  7 14:04:53 2018
From: tamon at afrinic.net (Mukom Akong T)
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 18:04:53 +0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] [Webinar] Take Your IPv6 Deployment to the Next
	Level
Message-ID: <0061af67-2e15-47b1-99b6-66f422a7935e@Spark>

Hello folks


When we did our IPv6 Deployment Challenges survey in 2016, one of the main findings was that some folks even after training still wanted more guidance. As a result, we created two initiatives as part of our IPv6 Program


1. The IPv6 Deployment Hackathon (aka Deployathons): - invite-only events where we help you prototype, test and deploy some IPv6 feature within 16 hours

2. The IPv6 Deployment Help Desk where we work with teams one-on-one to implement IPv6 on their networks


We find ourselves dealing with certain recurrent themes during these help desk sessions. As a result, we?re launching a series of webinars to address very specific deployment issues.


The first webinar is open for registration at?https://vox.afrinic.net/281636?lang=en?and?will take place as follows

? ?19th September

? ?13:00 UTC

? 30 seats only


Request an invite to this webinar at?https://vox.afrinic.net/281636?lang=en


Warm Regards


P/S

If you?ll be attending SAFNOG-4 (24th - 29th September) in Dar Es Salaam, Tanzania, we?ll be running our second deployathon at the event. Request an invite at?https://vox.afrinic.net/728558?lang=en


For anyone else who cannot make it to Dar but needs free guidance on their IPv6 project, make a request at ?bit.ly/6deployEN??(English) or?bit.ly/6deployFR?(French). Those who register and get an invite to our webinar?https://vox.afrinic.net/281636?lang=en?will get priority access to the help desk.








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From mark.tinka at seacom.mu  Thu Sep 13 05:51:14 2018
From: mark.tinka at seacom.mu (Mark Tinka)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 07:51:14 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG - Just Under 2 Weeks To Go!
Message-ID: <887f16d2-c96a-c41f-3bb2-b12f7df891db@seacom.mu>

Hi all.

This is just a reminder that with a little under 2 weeks to go the
upcoming SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG meeting to be held in Dar Es Salaam, 24th
- 29th September, please remember to register your attendance at
http://www.safnog.org/ so you don't miss the meeting.

The agenda is now up on the web site at http://www.safnog.org/#agenda
with just a few slots left which are filling fast. In case you feel like
you have an interesting technical and operational talk that you'd like
to share with the community at this meeting, please feel free to submit
it for the program committee to review as soon as possible, at:

??? https://papers.safnog.org/user/login.php?event=76

Key talks that you would be looking forward include:

  * Ben Roberts (Liquid Telecom), talking about the latency realities of
    intra-African Internet communication.

  * The 3 major data centre projects that are happening in South Africa,
    Kenya and Uganda.

  * The DNSSEC key rollover due on 11th October, and what to look
    forward to, as explained by Amreesh Phokeer.

  * An IPv6 Deployathon 2-day workshop headed by Mukom Akong Tamon.

  * ... and so many more.

There will be 2 social events where delegates can network, share a
drink, some good food, and stand a chance to win either an iPhone X or
AppleTV 4K.

We have secured a special discount rate at the hotel venue for all
SAFNOG/EANOG/tzNOG participants. More details are available at
http://www.safnog.org/#venue .

We look forward to seeing you in Dar Es Salaam.

Mark Tinka
On Behalf of the SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG Organising Committee


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From bashir.angode at afrinic.net  Tue Sep 18 12:45:35 2018
From: bashir.angode at afrinic.net (Bashir)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:45:35 +0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Reserve Your Spot for "Create & Implement the
 Perfect IPv6 Address Plan" Webinar | 19th Sept
Message-ID: <42cc2927-7f86-5678-01a1-6d369793f052@afrinic.net>

Click this link to confirm:

https://zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_n4--DQ-ZQfKe6xH9uHCF8g

And here's what is in store for you tomorrow 19th September.

Imagine this: The project manager of your company's IPv6 deployment 
project has assigned the following task to you.

1. Find out exactly how much IPv6 space we need for our network
2. Get that space from AFRINIC
3. Create a detailed IPv6 Addressing Plan that we'll use in deployment

Your mind flashes back to your CCNA days and the sweat-inducing binary 
mathematics required to subnet and variable length subnetting. The 
thought of having to do that for IPv6 fills makes you break out in a 
cold sweat.

You know there's hundreds of blogs out there and a couple of RFCs that 
seem to give conflicting recommendations about what prefix lengths to 
use where. You remember hearing some IPv6 guru saying that you'll get 
your IPv6 address plan wrong and redo it at least 3 times.

You are about to have a very bad couple of days!!

Worry not, by popular demand (66% of those who responded to our webinar 
survey last week) requested help with exactly this task as their #1 
challenge.? And we're happy to oblige


?? Webinar: "Create & Implement the Perfect IPv6 Address Plan

?? 19th September 2018

? 17:00 GST (Mauritius, Seychelles, Madagascar)
 ??????? -? 13:00 UTC? (Ghana, Cote D'Ivoire)
 ??????? -? 14:00? WAT (Nigeria, Cameroon)
 ??????? -? 16:00 EAT (Kenya, Uganda)

?? Confirm spot: https://zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_n4--DQ-ZQfKe6xH9uHCF8g

By the end of this 2 hour webinar, you will be hero and delivered the 
perfect IPv6 address plan for your deployment team,

- without migraine-inducing math
- consistent with best current operational practice
- ready to roll in an IP Address Management System (IPAM)

Confirm your spot: 
https://zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_n4--DQ-ZQfKe6xH9uHCF8g


Warm regards

AFRINIC Training Team



From mark.tinka at seacom.mu  Thu Sep 20 02:17:04 2018
From: mark.tinka at seacom.mu (Mark Tinka)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 04:17:04 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG: 4 Days To Go!
Message-ID: <7de8ccb6-7f78-751c-d2e2-164929bfd827@seacom.mu>

Hi all.

With just about 4 days to go until the 4th edition of the SAFNOG
meeting, in collaboration with EANOG and tzNOG, we are geared for an
exciting week in warm & sunny Dar Es Salaam.

The agenda will cover key topics for the region, such as:

  * Is Africa's continued telecommunications investment into Europe wise
    for the continent?
  * Data centre infrastructure development in the region.
  * What the recent IRR changes at RIPE mean for Africa.
  * The advances of IPv4 brokers into Africa, using AFRINIC very own
    resources in doing so.
  * e.t.c.

More details about the meeting, registration, venue and agenda at:

??? http://www.safnog.org/

If you haven't yet, please register your attendance to join us next week.

We look forward to seeing you all there.

Cheers,

Mark Tinka
On Behalf of the SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG Organizing Committee



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From honlue at gmail.com  Thu Sep 20 07:14:01 2018
From: honlue at gmail.com (Stephen Honlue)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 11:14:01 +0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG: 4 Days To Go!
In-Reply-To: <7de8ccb6-7f78-751c-d2e2-164929bfd827@seacom.mu>
References: <7de8ccb6-7f78-751c-d2e2-164929bfd827@seacom.mu>
Message-ID: <47f39062-64ab-83df-690d-8ad9e52a92ca@gmail.com>

Check the link, it's not responding for me.


On 20/09/2018 06:17, Mark Tinka wrote:
>
> More details about the meeting, registration, venue and agenda at:
>
> ??? http://www.safnog.org/
>

-- 
--
MSH
Trainer
IT and security, Self development enthusiast, Internet FAN
t: +230 57444041 | tt: @mhonlue |w:www.honluemusa.org
facebook.com/mhonlue | http://bit.ly/2EXbT45
___________________________
Meet you at the top



From afabbie at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 20 07:17:53 2018
From: afabbie at hotmail.com (Fabian Jr)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 07:17:53 +0000
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG: 4 Days To Go!
In-Reply-To: <47f39062-64ab-83df-690d-8ad9e52a92ca@gmail.com>
References: <7de8ccb6-7f78-751c-d2e2-164929bfd827@seacom.mu>,
 <47f39062-64ab-83df-690d-8ad9e52a92ca@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DB6P190MB01357EC2CDB01DAE8D1264BEA5130@DB6P190MB0135.EURP190.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

the link is working Stephen check your connections !




Arbogast Fabian,
cell:+255-78-447-8387


________________________________
From: Stephen Honlue <honlue at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 10:14 AM
To: afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net
Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG: 4 Days To Go!

Check the link, it's not responding for me.


On 20/09/2018 06:17, Mark Tinka wrote:
>
> More details about the meeting, registration, venue and agenda at:
>
>     http://www.safnog.org/
SAFNOG 4 Conference<http://www.safnog.org/>
www.safnog.org
Hello all. It gives me great pleasure to announce that SAFNOG-4, in collaboration with EANOG (East Africa Network Operators Group) and tzNOG (Tanzania Network Operators Group), and hosted by TISPA (Tanzania Internet Service Providers Association) will be held between the 24th - 29th September, 2018, in the warm and sunny city of Dar Es Salaam, Tanzania..


>

--
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Trainer
IT and security, Self development enthusiast, Internet FAN
t: +230 57444041 | tt: @mhonlue |w:www.honluemusa.org
facebook.com/mhonlue | http://bit.ly/2EXbT45
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From nishal at controlfreak.co.za  Thu Sep 20 07:24:37 2018
From: nishal at controlfreak.co.za (Nishal Goburdhan)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 09:24:37 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG: 4 Days To Go!
In-Reply-To: <47f39062-64ab-83df-690d-8ad9e52a92ca@gmail.com>
References: <7de8ccb6-7f78-751c-d2e2-164929bfd827@seacom.mu>
 <47f39062-64ab-83df-690d-8ad9e52a92ca@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C090C02-42FD-4AFD-B1FF-0C08302649AB@controlfreak.co.za>

On 20 Sep 2018, at 9:14, Stephen Honlue wrote:

> Check the link, it's not responding for me.

https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/safnog.org

it?s you.
:-)

?n.


From abscoco at gmail.com  Thu Sep 20 08:26:48 2018
From: abscoco at gmail.com (Sylvain BAYA)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 09:26:48 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss]  SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG: 4 Days To Go!
In-Reply-To: <4C090C02-42FD-4AFD-B1FF-0C08302649AB@controlfreak.co.za>
References: <7de8ccb6-7f78-751c-d2e2-164929bfd827@seacom.mu>
 <47f39062-64ab-83df-690d-8ad9e52a92ca@gmail.com>
 <4C090C02-42FD-4AFD-B1FF-0C08302649AB@controlfreak.co.za>
Message-ID: <8201fc1b-3453-2c0e-be16-255f9d439a72@gmail.com>

Hi @ll,

Le jeu. 20 sept. 2018 8:25 AM, Nishal Goburdhan
<nishal at controlfreak.co.za <mailto:nishal at controlfreak.co.za>> a ?crit?:

    On 20 Sep 2018, at 9:14, Stephen Honlue wrote:

    > Check the link, it's not responding for me.

    https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/safnog.org

    it?s you.
    :-)


Ok for me too Stephen. Has Nishal said :-)

Regards,
--sb.


    ?n.
    [...]




--?

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Wiki :?https://www.cmnog.cm/dokuwiki
Surveys :?https://survey.cmnog.cm
<https://survey.cmnog.cm/>?<https://survey.cmnog.cm/>
<https://survey.cmnog.cm/>

Subscribe to Mailing List :?https://lists.cmnog.cm/mailman/listinfo/cmnog/
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From mark.tinka at seacom.mu  Mon Sep 24 05:33:29 2018
From: mark.tinka at seacom.mu (Mark Tinka)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 07:33:29 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG: Live Stream The Conference
	Now!
Message-ID: <4c224c85-22f5-1580-e020-c27c6f8a73f4@seacom.mu>

Hello all.

For those who would like to attend the meeting remotely, the live stream
for the conference is now available on our web site:

??? http://www.safnog.org/

We look forward to you joining us online.

Cheers,

Mark Tinka
On Behalf of the SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG Organizing Committee
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From mark.tinka at seacom.mu  Mon Oct 15 06:15:12 2018
From: mark.tinka at seacom.mu (Mark Tinka)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 08:15:12 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Fwd: [apops] APRICOT 2019 PC call for volunteers
In-Reply-To: <13509111-9a18-966a-a461-292c6b67fe88@gmail.com>
References: <13509111-9a18-966a-a461-292c6b67fe88@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <607c1c69-e229-5f21-4163-a7bb476d0f51@seacom.mu>

FYI.

Mark.


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	[apops] APRICOT 2019 PC call for volunteers
Date: 	Mon, 8 Oct 2018 20:26:42 +1000
From: 	Philip Smith <pfsinoz at gmail.com>
To: 	apops at apops.net



Hi everyone,

The APRICOT 2019 Programme Committee is responsible for the
solicitation and selection of suitable presentation and tutorial
content for the APRICOT 2019 conference (https://2019.apricot.net/).

The APRICOT PC Chairs are now seeking nominations from the community
to join the APRICOT 2019 PC to assist with the development of the
programme for APRICOT 2019.

Eligible PC candidates are those who have attended APRICOT conferences
in the recent past, have broad technical knowledge of Internet
operations, and have reasonable familiarity with the format of APRICOT
conferences.  Having constructive opinions and ideas about how the
programme content might be improved is of high value too.  PC members
are expected to work actively to solicit content and review
submissions for technical merit.  The PC meets by conference call,
weekly in frequency during the three months prior to APRICOT.

If you are interested in joining the PC and meet the above eligibility
criteria, please send a brief note to "pc-chairs at apricot.net".  The
note should include affiliation (if any) and contact details
(including e-mail address), and a brief description of why you would
make a good addition to the PC.  PC members who are active,
successfully solicit content, contribute to regular PC meetings and
submit reviews receive complimentary registration for APRICOT 2019.

The PC Chairs will accept nominations received by 17:00 UTC+8 on
Monday 22nd October, 2018, and will announce the new PC shortly
thereafter.

Many thanks!

Mark Tinka, Marijana Novakovic & Philip Smith
APRICOT 2019 PC Chairs
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From mark.tinka at seacom.mu  Mon Oct 15 06:44:26 2018
From: mark.tinka at seacom.mu (Mark Tinka)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 08:44:26 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Fwd: [apops] APRICOT 2019 Call for Presentations
In-Reply-To: <4410edb7-97b3-286b-671a-51b605b0442f@gmail.com>
References: <4410edb7-97b3-286b-671a-51b605b0442f@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9274e560-032d-159f-c14d-28b22d61a0e9@seacom.mu>

FYI - APRICOT 2019 Call for Presentations. Thanks.

Mark.

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	[apops] APRICOT 2019 Call for Presentations
Date: 	Fri, 12 Oct 2018 14:43:08 +1000
From: 	Philip Smith <pfsinoz at gmail.com>
To: 	apops at apops.net



Hi everyone,

The call for presentations for APRICOT 2019 has been published - we are
all looking forward to receiving your presentation and tutorial
proposals and welcoming you to APRICOT 2019 in Daejeon, Korea, in February.

Thanks!

Mark, Marijana, Philip
APRICOT 2019 PC Chairs
--

Asia Pacific Regional Internet Conference on Operational Technologies
(APRICOT)
25th - 28th February 2019, Daejeon, Korea
https://2019.apricot.net

CALL FOR PAPERS
===============

The APRICOT 2019 Programme Committee is now seeking contributions for
Presentations and Tutorials for the APRICOT 2019 Conference.

We are looking for presenters who would:

- Offer a technical tutorial on an appropriate topic;
- Participate in the technical conference sessions as a speaker;
- Convene and chair panel sessions of relevant topics;
- Lead informal Birds of Feather break out sessions.

Please submit on-line at:

        http://papers.apricot.net/user/login.php?event=79

CONFERENCE MILESTONES
---------------------

Call for Papers Opens:           Now
Draft Program Published:         As Papers Confirmed
Final Deadline for Submissions:  25 January 2019
Final Program Published:          1 February 2019
Final Slides Received:           15 February 2019

*NOTE THAT REGARDLESS OF DEADLINES, SLOTS ARE FILLED ON A FIRST COME,
FIRST SERVED BASIS*

PROGRAMME CONTENT
-----------------

The APRICOT Conference Programme consists of three parts, these being
the Peering Forum, Tutorials, and Conference Tracks.

Topics proposed must be relevant to Internet Operations and Technologies:

- IPv4 / IPv6 Routing and Operations
- Internet backbone operations
- Peering, Interconnects and IXPs
- Content Distribution Network technology & operations
- Research on Internet Operations and Deployment
- Network security (NSP-SEC, DDoS, Anti-Spam, Anti-Malware)
- IPv6 deployment on fixed and Wireless/Cellular networks
- DNS / DNSSEC
- Access and Transport Technologies, including Cable/DSL, LTE/5G,
  wireless, metro ethernet, fibre, segment routing
- Software Defined Networking / Network Function Virtualisaton
- Content & Service Delivery (Multicast, Voice, Video, "telepresence",
  Gaming) and Cloud Computing


CfP SUBMISSION
--------------

Draft slides for both tutorials and conference sessions MUST be
provided with CfP submissions otherwise the submission will be
rejected immediately.  For work in progress, the most current
information available at time of submission is acceptable.

All draft and complete slides must be submitted in PDF format only.
Slides must be of original work, with all company confidential marks
removed.

Final slides are to be provided by the specified deadline for
publication on the APRICOT website.

Prospective presenters should note that the majority of speaking slots
will be filled well before the final submission deadline.  The PC may,
at their discretion, retain a limited number of slots up to the final
submission deadline for presentations that are exceptionally timely,
important, or of critical operational importance.  Every year we turn
away submissions, due to filling up all available programme slots
before the deadline.  Presenters should endeavour to get material into
the PC sooner rather than later.

Any questions or concerns should be addressed to the Programme
Committee by e-mail at:

        pc-chairs at apricot.net

We look forward to receiving your presentation proposals.

Mark Tinka, Marijana Novakovic & Philip Smith
Co-Chairs, APRICOT 2019 Programme Committee
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From mark.tinka at seacom.mu  Tue Oct 16 12:00:54 2018
From: mark.tinka at seacom.mu (Mark Tinka)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:00:54 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] SAFNOG-4/EANOG/tzNOG: Thank You & Survey
Message-ID: <22fd8d73-0835-5604-de12-bd086c1595f5@seacom.mu>

Hello all.

On behalf of the SAFNOG Management Committee, EANOG and tzNOG, I'd like
to extend my sincere thanks to all of you that attended this year's
meeting in Dar Es Salaam, physically and remotely.

To our host (TISPA), our sponsors, our speakers and of course, you, our
delegates, that supported this year's meeting... we would not have been
able to do it without you.

We look forward to seeing you again in 2019, details of which will be
communicated in the coming months.

I would like to ask you to take a few minutes and complete the
10-question survey at the link below, so that we know where to improve
for future meetings:

??? https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/JQTKVVF

Thank you all, and see you in 2019.

Mark Tinka

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From brice at afrinic.net  Wed Nov 14 14:31:50 2018
From: brice at afrinic.net (Brice ABBA)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 18:31:50 +0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Register for the IPv6 Deployathon at AFRINIC-29
	in Tunisia
Message-ID: <d1a5daea-20c5-9448-3311-05b7ccccc082@afrinic.net>

** Fran?**ais en bas **

Dear all,

So if you want to securely announce our IPv6 prefix in a manner
consistent with industry best practice, and get ready to natively
connect a native IPv6 customer. If you?d value a having a group of
like-minded engineers with the same mission along with the guidance of
experienced trainers and seasoned IPv6 deployers, then;

AFRINIC invites you to register for the IPv6 deployathon session taking
place on 27 and 28 November 2018? at the Medina Conference and Expo
Center, Yasmine Hammamet in Tunisia.

Register here: http://bit.ly/IPv6_Deploy_En


Seats for this session are limited to 20.

---

Inscrivez-vous au deployathon IPv6 ? AFRINIC-29 en Tunisie?

Si vous souhaitez annoncer notre pr?fixe IPv6 de mani?re s?curis?e avec
les meilleures pratiques en la mati?re,? si vous souhaitez ?tre pr?t ?
connecter nativement un client IPv6 natif. Si vous tenez ? avoir un
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les conseils de formateurs exp?riment?s et d?experts dans le d?ploiement
d?IPv6, alors;

AFRINIC vous invite ? vous inscrire ? la session de deployathon IPv6 qui
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From mangawilly at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 11:35:38 2018
From: mangawilly at gmail.com (Willy MANGA)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 12:35:38 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 transition mechanism used by ISP
In-Reply-To: <mailman.10.1543662002.2566.ipv6-wg@ripe.net>
References: <mailman.10.1543662002.2566.ipv6-wg@ripe.net>
Message-ID: <5ae1a35a-d449-11bb-5aab-bfb58a6874e2@gmail.com>

May be useful here

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Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 13:04:10 +0200
From: Yannis Nikolopoulos <dez at otenet.gr>
To: ipv6-wg at ripe.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Hello all,

this probably hasn't been posted here so for everyone's info, there's a
google spreadsheet created by IETF's Lee Howard, with information about
transition mechanisms used by ISPs around the world. Obviously, anyone
can edit and the more people add info, the more meaningful and useful it
can become

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ksOoWOaRdRyjZnjLSikHf4O5L1OUTNOO_7NK9vcVApc/edit?usp=sharing

cheers,
Yannis



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From mangawilly at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 11:48:17 2018
From: mangawilly at gmail.com (Willy MANGA)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 12:48:17 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people
	moving to IPv6
In-Reply-To: <B3B7941E-33A5-480A-B590-E0CC7F64257F@liquidtelecom.com>
References: <CAKfw8DZ1cvOk-gu2F-UK2j5daqpuCbXDMgiC8rY+NoN3w5Ah0w@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi,
I pick it from rpd list [1] because I do not think it's the right place
to discuss it ... I'll appreciate if people can express share their
opinions on points below and eventually share their experiences.

1. https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2018/008662.html


Le 01/12/2018 ? 07:16, Andrew Alston a ?crit?:
> You know,
> [...]
> Now let me talk about IPv6 ? something I happen to know a fair bit about ? particularly in terms of ISP deployments.  Let us be completely honest, IPv6 is necessary ? and we all have to get there ? it?s not an option ? v4 simply doesn?t scale to global needs.  But ? instead of these meaningless platitudes about how everyone should go to IPv6 ? how about we start openly and honestly talking about the challenges with IPv6 and how we address them ? so that we can promote its deployment through proper understanding ? and instead of everyone going ?lets all move to ipv6? ? let?s start finding solutions to some of the things that STOP people moving to IPv6.
> 
> 
>   1.  Lack of legacy support in a fair ton of hardware ? how do we deal with it
>   2.  Vastly inconsistent support for transition mechanisms and chronically bad support for most of these transition mechanisms in CPE?s
>   3.  The complete *mess* that MPLS support as concerns IPv6 (to this day you cannot do vpnv6 without a v4 underlay, martini is entirely bound to LDP and LDPv6 support is near non-existent, and I?ve yet to see Kompella working entirely without v4 in some form either)
>   4.  The security challenges around IPv6 and the bad implementations that create issues here ? issues which over the years we have learnt to deal with in IPv4 ? Happy to expound on these off list ? and no ? they have nothing to do with NAT or the lack thereof ? because NAT as a security mechanism was the biggest lie ever sold to an industry.
> 
> For years I have been an IPv6 advocate ? and I still am ? and I?ve actively deployed and run IPv6 in production supplying it to the end user, with multiple percentage point changes in country IPv6 penetration statistics as a result, but I am fast realizing that if we want IPv6 to grow and thrive ? it?s time we started being a little more open and honest about the challenges and problems with it ? instead of sprouting off that everyone should just move to it.   Let?s acknowledge that IPv6 is critical, we have no option, but it is also deeply flawed, has major problems, and until start dealing with those ? we will see deployment continue to stutter
> 
> Andrew



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From jordi.palet at consulintel.es  Sat Dec  1 13:29:09 2018
From: jordi.palet at consulintel.es (JORDI PALET MARTINEZ)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2018 14:29:09 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people
 moving to IPv6
In-Reply-To: <4636b82c-c836-2980-ebf0-9c775bb59ea4@gmail.com>
References: <CAKfw8DZ1cvOk-gu2F-UK2j5daqpuCbXDMgiC8rY+NoN3w5Ah0w@mail.gmail.com>
 <B3B7941E-33A5-480A-B590-E0CC7F64257F@liquidtelecom.com>
 <4636b82c-c836-2980-ebf0-9c775bb59ea4@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E2D78881-2A27-4B72-BCB1-671B839D14D1@consulintel.es>

For the CPEs you may want to ask your vendors to support this document:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-transition-ipv4aas/

Yesterday night was sent to the IESG for the final review, and hopefully will be an RFC in the coming weeks.

In terms of transition, if you have a cellular network, or want to make sure to be "compatible" with it in the future, I will suggest using 464XLAT.

You have also this document as guidelines for deploying it:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-nat64-deployment/

Regards,
Jordi
 
 

?-----Mensaje original-----
De: Willy MANGA <mangawilly at gmail.com>
Responder a: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Fecha: s?bado, 1 de diciembre de 2018, 12:52
Para: "afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net" <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Asunto: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6

    Hi,
    I pick it from rpd list [1] because I do not think it's the right place
    to discuss it ... I'll appreciate if people can express share their
    opinions on points below and eventually share their experiences.
    
    1. https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2018/008662.html
    
    
    Le 01/12/2018 ? 07:16, Andrew Alston a ?crit :
    > You know,
    > [...]
    > Now let me talk about IPv6 ? something I happen to know a fair bit about ? particularly in terms of ISP deployments.  Let us be completely honest, IPv6 is necessary ? and we all have to get there ? it?s not an option ? v4 simply doesn?t scale to global needs.  But ? instead of these meaningless platitudes about how everyone should go to IPv6 ? how about we start openly and honestly talking about the challenges with IPv6 and how we address them ? so that we can promote its deployment through proper understanding ? and instead of everyone going ?lets all move to ipv6? ? let?s start finding solutions to some of the things that STOP people moving to IPv6.
    > 
    > 
    >   1.  Lack of legacy support in a fair ton of hardware ? how do we deal with it
    >   2.  Vastly inconsistent support for transition mechanisms and chronically bad support for most of these transition mechanisms in CPE?s
    >   3.  The complete *mess* that MPLS support as concerns IPv6 (to this day you cannot do vpnv6 without a v4 underlay, martini is entirely bound to LDP and LDPv6 support is near non-existent, and I?ve yet to see Kompella working entirely without v4 in some form either)
    >   4.  The security challenges around IPv6 and the bad implementations that create issues here ? issues which over the years we have learnt to deal with in IPv4 ? Happy to expound on these off list ? and no ? they have nothing to do with NAT or the lack thereof ? because NAT as a security mechanism was the biggest lie ever sold to an industry.
    > 
    > For years I have been an IPv6 advocate ? and I still am ? and I?ve actively deployed and run IPv6 in production supplying it to the end user, with multiple percentage point changes in country IPv6 penetration statistics as a result, but I am fast realizing that if we want IPv6 to grow and thrive ? it?s time we started being a little more open and honest about the challenges and problems with it ? instead of sprouting off that everyone should just move to it.   Let?s acknowledge that IPv6 is critical, we have no option, but it is also deeply flawed, has major problems, and until start dealing with those ? we will see deployment continue to stutter
    > 
    > Andrew
    
    
    
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From lee.howard at retevia.net  Wed Dec  5 15:27:07 2018
From: lee.howard at retevia.net (Lee Howard)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 10:27:07 -0500
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people
 moving to IPv6
In-Reply-To: <4636b82c-c836-2980-ebf0-9c775bb59ea4@gmail.com>
References: <CAKfw8DZ1cvOk-gu2F-UK2j5daqpuCbXDMgiC8rY+NoN3w5Ah0w@mail.gmail.com>
 <B3B7941E-33A5-480A-B590-E0CC7F64257F@liquidtelecom.com>
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Message-ID: <7bcb60c8-7a32-6962-f580-c7a39f5ad9d2@retevia.net>


On 12/1/18 6:48 AM, Willy MANGA wrote:
> Hi,
> I pick it from rpd list [1] because I do not think it's the right place
> to discuss it ... I'll appreciate if people can express share their
> opinions on points below and eventually share their experiences.
>
> 1. https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2018/008662.html

I did reply there, and agree this is the better place to discuss.

> Le 01/12/2018 ? 07:16, Andrew Alston a ?crit?:
>> You know,
>> [...]
>> Now let me talk about IPv6 ? something I happen to know a fair bit about ? particularly in terms of ISP deployments.  Let us be completely honest, IPv6 is necessary ? and we all have to get there ? it?s not an option ? v4 simply doesn?t scale to global needs.  But ? instead of these meaningless platitudes about how everyone should go to IPv6 ? how about we start openly and honestly talking about the challenges with IPv6 and how we address them ? so that we can promote its deployment through proper understanding ? and instead of everyone going ?lets all move to ipv6? ? let?s start finding solutions to some of the things that STOP people moving to IPv6.
>>
>>
>>    1.  Lack of legacy support in a fair ton of hardware ? how do we deal with it

Have to go through the hardware line by line.

I haven't encountered a router, switch, load balancer, or firewall made 
in the last ten years that wasn't capable of basic IPv6 functions in 
hardware. Some of the oldest required upgrades to line cards or 
controller cards, but those were available by 2012. And many devices 
even older than 2008 had good IPv6 support.

Some advanced features haven't been available for long (like some of the 
MPLS issues you note below), so they may not be implemented widely or 
well. That's just new technology, and it's significantly helped by the 
network effect, as more people work with it.

The exception might be CPE; see below.

>>    2.  Vastly inconsistent support for transition mechanisms and chronically bad support for most of these transition mechanisms in CPE?s

Yes, this is bad. IPv6 support might exist (but isn't always great), but 
without a transition mechanism, you haven't saved any IPv4 addresses. 
The only options you have without CPE support are NAT44 and NAT64, and 
both are slow and expensive and not great for things like inbound 
communication.

A few things contribute to this problem:

 1. Consumers are unaware of IPv6, so it's not part of their buying
    decision. If something doesn't make consumer buy boxes, vendors
    don't do it. I do not think consumer education about IP is a good idea.
 2. ISPs buying cheap boxes and not paying anything for support, so they
    can't get upgrades.
 3. Foreign ISPs dumping volumes of used CPE, which get resold at deep
    discounts.

Something that has worked for some companies is an "ISP Certified" 
sticker. CPE vendors could apply to an ISP, and pay the costs of 
testing. If the tests complied with the ISP's requirements, which might 
include MAP, lw4o6, or 464xlat support, the vendor is allowed to put a 
sticker on their box saying, "This device certified for use with $ISP." 
There might be a business opportunity for someone who can set up a 
really good CPE testing lab, so ISPs could outsource their testing and 
certification.

Something else that works is for the ISP to provide CPE, and include the 
cost in the monthly fee. Then the ISP may choose only to buy CPE that 
meets its requirements.

It might be possible for a group of ISPs with common requirements to 
form a buying pool, where they had a single requirements document they 
could send to several vendors, and agree to buy all CPE from the vendor 
with the best bid. That way, 20 ISPs who would normally buy 5,000 
devices per year get the buying influence of one buying 100,000 per 
year. I don't know if there are laws against collusion that might 
interfere, but I would imagine that ISPs that don't compete wouldn't 
have that problem. This might also be a business opportunity.

This problem is also helped by the network effect, as more ISPs deploy 
IPv6 and realize most transition mechanisms require CPE support. Then 
CPE vendor hear the same requirements from more and more ISP customers.


>>    3.  The complete *mess* that MPLS support as concerns IPv6 (to this day you cannot do vpnv6 without a v4 underlay, martini is entirely bound to LDP and LDPv6 support is near non-existent, and I?ve yet to see Kompella working entirely without v4 in some form either)
I'm not strong in MPLS. 6PE works, but current implementations do still 
require IPv4 underlay. The protocol work is done, now it's just waiting 
for router vendors to update code.
>>    4.  The security challenges around IPv6 and the bad implementations that create issues here ? issues which over the years we have learnt to deal with in IPv4 ? Happy to expound on these off list ? and no ? they have nothing to do with NAT or the lack thereof ? because NAT as a security mechanism was the biggest lie ever sold to an industry.

Well, bad implementations are bad, and I don't know what to do about 
that. Test and file bugs.

The only inherent security risks I know of that are specific to IPv6 are 
link-local, where a host might send RAs or NAs, but there are several 
known mitigations for those risks. Someone recently argued to me that a 
router that only populated its neighbor table based on DHCPv6 responses 
would be inherently more secure than an IPv4 network.

Security best practices are still best practices.
>>
>> For years I have been an IPv6 advocate ? and I still am ? and I?ve actively deployed and run IPv6 in production supplying it to the end user, with multiple percentage point changes in country IPv6 penetration statistics as a result, but I am fast realizing that if we want IPv6 to grow and thrive ? it?s time we started being a little more open and honest about the challenges and problems with it ? instead of sprouting off that everyone should just move to it.   Let?s acknowledge that IPv6 is critical, we have no option, but it is also deeply flawed, has major problems, and until start dealing with those ? we will see deployment continue to stutter

Should we have a round table discussion at AIS? How can we identify and 
make progress on resolving issues with IPv6?

The common theme in my answers above is that more people running IPv6 
provides more weight in solving problems. If everyone would take a 
couple of hours to do three things, we'd have a very broad base of 
common experience to draw from:

1. Write an address plan. Don't worry if it takes several revisions, 
that's normal.

2. Apply to Afrinic for IPv6 addresses.

3. Announce the IPv6 addresses and route them on your backbone.

AFRINIC's training and IPv6 Helpdesk are great resources. I don't know 
of any issues with those steps, and for most networks that really is 
just a few hours' work. From that point, as people deploy IPv6 in their 
data centers, to enable web sites, provisioning and OSS systems, they 
might have common experiences to discuss.

Lee
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From mukom.tamon at gmail.com  Thu Dec  6 03:41:29 2018
From: mukom.tamon at gmail.com (Mukom Akong T.)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 07:41:29 +0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people
 moving to IPv6
In-Reply-To: <7bcb60c8-7a32-6962-f580-c7a39f5ad9d2@retevia.net>
References: <CAKfw8DZ1cvOk-gu2F-UK2j5daqpuCbXDMgiC8rY+NoN3w5Ah0w@mail.gmail.com>
 <B3B7941E-33A5-480A-B590-E0CC7F64257F@liquidtelecom.com>
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>
> Consumers are unaware of IPv6, so it's not part of their buying decision.
If something doesn't make consumer buy boxes, vendors don't do it. I do not
think consumer education about IP is a good idea.



Neither do I. Consumers don't DIRECTLY care about IP (whether v4 or v6).
But they do care about other features that may be only possible (or easier,
or cheaper) with v6.


This is one place where I see the role of governments. In the interest of
national development, just ban importation and sale of legacy equipment.
Similar to what is already done with type approval in telecommunications
today.



> ISPs buying cheap boxes and not paying anything for support, so they
can't get upgrades.
> Foreign ISPs dumping volumes of used CPE, which get resold at deep
discounts.


I've been screaming about this for years. Even worse, some of it is going
to be "sold" as "next generation Internet aid or technical corporation")
which further cripples IPv6 deployment.

>
> Something that has worked for some companies is an "ISP Certified"
sticker. CPE vendors could apply to an ISP, and pay the costs of testing.
If the tests complied with the ISP's requirements, which might include MAP,
lw4o6, or 464xlat support, the vendor is allowed to put a sticker on their
box saying, "This device certified for use with $ISP." There might be a
business opportunity for someone who can set up a really good CPE testing
lab, so ISPs could outsource their testing and certification.


In addition, I believe that with two days of training (regulators and
customs) and the appropriate infrastructure and a PROCESS, we can help a
government implement type approval for IPv6. Any regulator that wishes to
do this should reach out and join the waiting list by taking the Government
IPv6 Readiness Self Assessment at

ENGLISH ? https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=en
FRENCH ?  https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=fr


> For years I have been an IPv6 advocate ? and I still am ? and I?ve
actively deployed and run IPv6 in production supplying it to the end user,
with multiple percentage point changes in country IPv6 penetration
statistics as a result, but I am fast realizing that if we want IPv6 to
grow and thrive ? it?s time we started being a little more open and honest
about the challenges and problems with it ? instead of sprouting off that
everyone should just move to it.   Let?s acknowledge that IPv6 is critical,
we have no option, but it is also deeply flawed, has major problems, and
until start dealing with those ? we will see deployment continue to stutter


I agree with the above. The solution is not just another open "discussion"
where people who have not even started any kind of deployment, or even have
a fair idea of what percentage of equipment might or might not be v6 ready
go on an on about problems they've only heard about.


>
> Should we have a round table discussion at AIS? How can we identify and
make progress on resolving issues with IPv6?
>


Perhaps we can start with a mailing list thread of SPECIFIC issues people
have encountered while attempting a deployment on this mailing list, then
build up to a webinar or discussion at AIS.


There are probably about 400million users using IPv6 today and growing,
someone somewhere has solved those problems.


> The common theme in my answers above is that more people running IPv6
provides more weight in solving problems. If everyone would take a couple
of hours to do three things, we'd have a very broad base of common
experience to draw from:
>
> 1. Write an address plan. Don't worry if it takes several revisions,
that's normal.
>
> 2. Apply to Afrinic for IPv6 addresses.
>
> 3. Announce the IPv6 addresses and route them on your backbone.


These are things that we've helped operators implement in 1 day at our
deployathons (or 6 two hour sessions during helpdesk calls). It's
surprising how many operators need help with their address planning. Which
is why not only do we teach them how to determine how much space they get,
but also how to implement them in an IPAM.  For those interested, a video
of a highly attended and rated AFRINIC webinar can be found at


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFIVQ_Z9je8&t=542s

Step by step walk-through of address planning best practices and
implementation in an IPAM ---- no maths!


>
> AFRINIC's training and IPv6 Helpdesk are great resources.


The premise behind the helpdesk is this: We can find ONE operator a month
that's committed to deploying IPv6, we keep providing targeted training and
coaching to move them from one deployment milestone to another until we get
stuck with incompatible equipment or internal collaboration issues. All it
takes is about 4 hours investment per week. If you are interested, make a
request at


bit.ly/6deployEN   (english)
bit.ly/6deployFR    (french)

As we do this, we're also building an tremendous amount of intel on what
actually HOLDS IPv6 deployment back from real operators attempting to
deploy it and so far with over 45 tickets, the evidence indicates that
incompatible equipment is not in the top 5.


We're also realising that that argument from big operators about "customers
aren't asking for it" is not true. We know of large operators that within 2
months have received explicitly written requests to enable IPv6 from large
corporate customers. You don't want to see their response :(


If you want to host one of our DEPLOYATHON sessions in your country

- 5% teaching, 95% DOing
- using our Prototype ? Validate ? Develop ? Deploy framework
- enables you hit a measurable deployment milestone within 8 hours

you can apply at:  https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=en (or
https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=fr in french)


And for those who are still wondering how ready or not their organisations
are, take our free Organisational IPv6 Readiness Assessment at
https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=en  (or
https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=fr in French)

The results might provide pointers where to start the process.


Until next time ..... be EXCELLENT

-- 

Mukom Akong T.

LinkedIn:Mukom  |  twitter: @perfexcellent

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From pascal at irenala.edu.mg  Thu Dec  6 09:41:26 2018
From: pascal at irenala.edu.mg (Pascal ANDRIANISA)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 12:41:26 +0300 (EAT)
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people
 moving to IPv6
In-Reply-To: <CAHDzDLChvLievrsXF5ugxX7e32OnhLOk08PGtr42otFU+quWSw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKfw8DZ1cvOk-gu2F-UK2j5daqpuCbXDMgiC8rY+NoN3w5Ah0w@mail.gmail.com>
 <B3B7941E-33A5-480A-B590-E0CC7F64257F@liquidtelecom.com>
 <4636b82c-c836-2980-ebf0-9c775bb59ea4@gmail.com>
 <7bcb60c8-7a32-6962-f580-c7a39f5ad9d2@retevia.net>
 <CAHDzDLChvLievrsXF5ugxX7e32OnhLOk08PGtr42otFU+quWSw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <207341745.296097.1544089286108.JavaMail.zimbra@irenala.edu.mg>

Dear All, 

I think there is also another solution which is to inform the operators in each country of the situation because if only the members who will apply IPv6 it will not be possible to use it optimally. 
I do not know if a provision to that effect has already been taken but I think that all the members are aware of the situation. 

Best regard, 
Pascal Heriliva ANDRIANISA 
Webmaster i RENALA 
R esearch and E ducation N etwork for A cademic and L earning A ctivities - [ http://www.irenala.edu.mg/ | http://www.irenala.edu.mg/ ] 
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GSM :+261 (0) 32 46 680 29 |  +261 (0) 34 30 680 29 


De: "Mukom Akong T." <mukom.tamon at gmail.com> 
?: "IPv6 in Africa" <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net> 
Envoy?: Jeudi 6 D?cembre 2018 06:41:29 
Objet: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6 



> 
> Consumers are unaware of IPv6, so it's not part of their buying decision. If something doesn't make consumer buy boxes, vendors don't do it. I do not think consumer education about IP is a good idea. 



Neither do I. Consumers don't DIRECTLY care about IP (whether v4 or v6). But they do care about other features that may be only possible (or easier, or cheaper) with v6. 


This is one place where I see the role of governments. In the interest of national development, just ban importation and sale of legacy equipment. Similar to what is already done with type approval in telecommunications today. 



> ISPs buying cheap boxes and not paying anything for support, so they can't get upgrades. 
> Foreign ISPs dumping volumes of used CPE, which get resold at deep discounts. 


I've been screaming about this for years. Even worse, some of it is going to be "sold" as "next generation Internet aid or technical corporation") which further cripples IPv6 deployment. 

> 
> Something that has worked for some companies is an "ISP Certified" sticker. CPE vendors could apply to an ISP, and pay the costs of testing. If the tests complied with the ISP's requirements, which might include MAP, lw4o6, or 464xlat support, the vendor is allowed to put a sticker on their box saying, "This device certified for use with $ISP." There might be a business opportunity for someone who can set up a really good CPE testing lab, so ISPs could outsource their testing and certification. 


In addition, I believe that with two days of training (regulators and customs) and the appropriate infrastructure and a PROCESS, we can help a government implement type approval for IPv6. Any regulator that wishes to do this should reach out and join the waiting list by taking the Government IPv6 Readiness Self Assessment at 

ENGLISH ? [ https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=en | https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=en ] 
FRENCH ? [ https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=fr | https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=fr ] 


> For years I have been an IPv6 advocate ? and I still am ? and I?ve actively deployed and run IPv6 in production supplying it to the end user, with multiple percentage point changes in country IPv6 penetration statistics as a result, but I am fast realizing that if we want IPv6 to grow and thrive ? it?s time we started being a little more open and honest about the challenges and problems with it ? instead of sprouting off that everyone should just move to it. Let?s acknowledge that IPv6 is critical, we have no option, but it is also deeply flawed, has major problems, and until start dealing with those ? we will see deployment continue to stutter 


I agree with the above. The solution is not just another open "discussion" where people who have not even started any kind of deployment, or even have a fair idea of what percentage of equipment might or might not be v6 ready go on an on about problems they've only heard about. 


> 
> Should we have a round table discussion at AIS? How can we identify and make progress on resolving issues with IPv6? 
> 


Perhaps we can start with a mailing list thread of SPECIFIC issues people have encountered while attempting a deployment on this mailing list, then build up to a webinar or discussion at AIS. 


There are probably about 400million users using IPv6 today and growing, someone somewhere has solved those problems. 


> The common theme in my answers above is that more people running IPv6 provides more weight in solving problems. If everyone would take a couple of hours to do three things, we'd have a very broad base of common experience to draw from: 
> 
> 1. Write an address plan. Don't worry if it takes several revisions, that's normal. 
> 
> 2. Apply to Afrinic for IPv6 addresses. 
> 
> 3. Announce the IPv6 addresses and route them on your backbone. 


These are things that we've helped operators implement in 1 day at our deployathons (or 6 two hour sessions during helpdesk calls). It's surprising how many operators need help with their address planning. Which is why not only do we teach them how to determine how much space they get, but also how to implement them in an IPAM. For those interested, a video of a highly attended and rated AFRINIC webinar can be found at 


[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFIVQ_Z9je8&t=542s | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFIVQ_Z9je8&t=542s ] 

Step by step walk-through of address planning best practices and implementation in an IPAM ---- no maths! 


> 
> AFRINIC's training and IPv6 Helpdesk are great resources. 


The premise behind the helpdesk is this: We can find ONE operator a month that's committed to deploying IPv6, we keep providing targeted training and coaching to move them from one deployment milestone to another until we get stuck with incompatible equipment or internal collaboration issues. All it takes is about 4 hours investment per week. If you are interested, make a request at 


[ http://bit.ly/6deployEN | bit.ly/6deployEN ] (english) 
[ http://bit.ly/6deployFR | bit.ly/6deployFR ] (french) 

As we do this, we're also building an tremendous amount of intel on what actually HOLDS IPv6 deployment back from real operators attempting to deploy it and so far with over 45 tickets, the evidence indicates that incompatible equipment is not in the top 5. 

We're also realising that that argument from big operators about "customers aren't asking for it" is not true. We know of large operators that within 2 months have received explicitly written requests to enable IPv6 from large corporate customers. You don't want to see their response :( 


If you want to host one of our DEPLOYATHON sessions in your country 

- 5% teaching, 95% DOing 
- using our Prototype ? Validate ? Develop ? Deploy framework 
- enables you hit a measurable deployment milestone within 8 hours 

you can apply at: [ https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=en | https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=en ] (or [ https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=fr | https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=fr ] in french) 


And for those who are still wondering how ready or not their organisations are, take our free Organisational IPv6 Readiness Assessment at [ https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=en | https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=en ] (or [ https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=fr | https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=fr ] in French) 

The results might provide pointers where to start the process. 


Until next time ..... be EXCELLENT 

-- 

Mukom Akong T. 

LinkedIn:Mukom | twitter: @perfexcellent 

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From: jordi.palet at consulintel.es (JORDI PALET MARTINEZ)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2018 10:55:48 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people
 moving to IPv6
Message-ID: <2524A288-9B5A-4EB0-8C4A-BEF52F24D303@consulintel.es>

Operators are informed, if you speak about ?engineers?, the problem is to inform the CEOs of operator AND the CEOs of important companies in each country (financial sectors, companies that export or have relevant web sites, etc.).

 

I recall ARIN did sent a letter to them (in their region) a few years ago.


Regards,

Jordi

 

 

 

De: Pascal ANDRIANISA <pascal at irenala.edu.mg>
Responder a: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Fecha: jueves, 6 de diciembre de 2018, 10:47
Para: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Asunto: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6

 

Dear All,

I think there is also another solution which is to inform the operators in each country of the situation because if only the members who will apply IPv6 it will not be possible to use it optimally.
I do not know if a provision to that effect has already been taken but I think that all the members are aware of the situation.

Best regard,
 Pascal Heriliva ANDRIANISA
 Webmaster i RENALA
 Research and Education Network for Academic and Learning Activities - http://www.irenala.edu.mg/
 Porte 201 - Minist?re de l'Enseignement Sup?rieur et de la Recherche Scientifique - Fiadanana
 GSM :+261 (0) 32 46 680 29 |? +261 (0) 34 30 680 29
 
De: "Mukom Akong T." <mukom.tamon at gmail.com>
?: "IPv6 in Africa" <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Envoy?: Jeudi 6 D?cembre 2018 06:41:29
Objet: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6
 


>
> Consumers are unaware of IPv6, so it's not part of their buying decision. If something doesn't make consumer buy boxes, vendors don't do it. I do not think consumer education about IP is a good idea.



Neither do I. Consumers don't DIRECTLY care about IP (whether v4 or v6). But they do care about other features that may be only possible (or easier, or cheaper) with v6.


This is one place where I see the role of governments. In the interest of national development, just ban importation and sale of legacy equipment. Similar to what is already done with type approval in telecommunications today.



> ISPs buying cheap boxes and not paying anything for support, so they can't get upgrades.
> Foreign ISPs dumping volumes of used CPE, which get resold at deep discounts.


I've been screaming about this for years. Even worse, some of it is going to be "sold" as "next generation Internet aid or technical corporation") which further cripples IPv6 deployment.

>
> Something that has worked for some companies is an "ISP Certified" sticker. CPE vendors could apply to an ISP, and pay the costs of testing. If the tests complied with the ISP's requirements, which might include MAP, lw4o6, or 464xlat support, the vendor is allowed to put a sticker on their box saying, "This device certified for use with $ISP." There might be a business opportunity for someone who can set up a really good CPE testing lab, so ISPs could outsource their testing and certification.


In addition, I believe that with two days of training (regulators and customs) and the appropriate infrastructure and a PROCESS, we can help a government implement type approval for IPv6. Any regulator that wishes to do this should reach out and join the waiting list by taking the Government IPv6 Readiness Self Assessment at  

ENGLISH ? https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=en
FRENCH ?  https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=fr


> For years I have been an IPv6 advocate ? and I still am ? and I?ve actively deployed and run IPv6 in production supplying it to the end user, with multiple percentage point changes in country IPv6 penetration statistics as a result, but I am fast realizing that if we want IPv6 to grow and thrive ? it?s time we started being a little more open and honest about the challenges and problems with it ? instead of sprouting off that everyone should just move to it.   Let?s acknowledge that IPv6 is critical, we have no option, but it is also deeply flawed, has major problems, and until start dealing with those ? we will see deployment continue to stutter


I agree with the above. The solution is not just another open "discussion" where people who have not even started any kind of deployment, or even have a fair idea of what percentage of equipment might or might not be v6 ready go on an on about problems they've only heard about.


>
> Should we have a round table discussion at AIS? How can we identify and make progress on resolving issues with IPv6?
>


Perhaps we can start with a mailing list thread of SPECIFIC issues people have encountered while attempting a deployment on this mailing list, then build up to a webinar or discussion at AIS.


There are probably about 400million users using IPv6 today and growing, someone somewhere has solved those problems.


> The common theme in my answers above is that more people running IPv6 provides more weight in solving problems. If everyone would take a couple of hours to do three things, we'd have a very broad base of common experience to draw from:
>
> 1. Write an address plan. Don't worry if it takes several revisions, that's normal.
>
> 2. Apply to Afrinic for IPv6 addresses.
>
> 3. Announce the IPv6 addresses and route them on your backbone.


These are things that we've helped operators implement in 1 day at our deployathons (or 6 two hour sessions during helpdesk calls). It's surprising how many operators need help with their address planning. Which is why not only do we teach them how to determine how much space they get, but also how to implement them in an IPAM.  For those interested, a video of a highly attended and rated AFRINIC webinar can be found at


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFIVQ_Z9je8&t=542s

Step by step walk-through of address planning best practices and implementation in an IPAM ---- no maths!


>
> AFRINIC's training and IPv6 Helpdesk are great resources. 


The premise behind the helpdesk is this: We can find ONE operator a month that's committed to deploying IPv6, we keep providing targeted training and coaching to move them from one deployment milestone to another until we get stuck with incompatible equipment or internal collaboration issues. All it takes is about 4 hours investment per week. If you are interested, make a request at  


bit.ly/6deployEN   (english)
bit.ly/6deployFR    (french)

As we do this, we're also building an tremendous amount of intel on what actually HOLDS IPv6 deployment back from real operators attempting to deploy it and so far with over 45 tickets, the evidence indicates that incompatible equipment is not in the top 5. 
We're also realising that that argument from big operators about "customers aren't asking for it" is not true. We know of large operators that within 2 months have received explicitly written requests to enable IPv6 from large corporate customers. You don't want to see their response :(
 
If you want to host one of our DEPLOYATHON sessions in your country 
 
- 5% teaching, 95% DOing
- using our Prototype ? Validate ? Develop ? Deploy framework
- enables you hit a measurable deployment milestone within 8 hours
 
you can apply at:  https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=en (or https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=fr in french)
 
And for those who are still wondering how ready or not their organisations are, take our free Organisational IPv6 Readiness Assessment at  https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=en  (or https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=fr in French)

The results might provide pointers where to start the process.
 
Until next time ..... be EXCELLENT

-- 

Mukom Akong T.

LinkedIn:Mukom  |  twitter: @perfexcellent  

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From pascal at irenala.edu.mg  Thu Dec  6 10:17:42 2018
From: pascal at irenala.edu.mg (Pascal ANDRIANISA)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 13:17:42 +0300 (EAT)
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people
 moving to IPv6
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Thank you Jordi, 
I think we need to go in this direction for operators to switch to IPv6 as soon as possible . 

Best regards, 

Pascal Heriliva ANDRIANISA 
Webmaster i RENALA 
R esearch and E ducation N etwork for A cademic and L earning A ctivities - [ http://www.irenala.edu.mg/ | http://www.irenala.edu.mg/ ] 
Porte 201 - Minist?re de l'Enseignement Sup?rieur et de la Recherche Scientifique - Fiadanana 
GSM :+261 (0) 32 46 680 29 |  +261 (0) 34 30 680 29 


De: "IPv6 in Africa Discussions" <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net> 
?: "IPv6 in Africa Discussions" <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net> 
Envoy?: Jeudi 6 D?cembre 2018 12:55:48 
Objet: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6 



Operators are informed, if you speak about ?engineers?, the problem is to inform the CEOs of operator AND the CEOs of important companies in each country (financial sectors, companies that export or have relevant web sites, etc.). 



I recall ARIN did sent a letter to them (in their region) a few years ago. 



Regards, 

Jordi 









De: Pascal ANDRIANISA <pascal at irenala.edu.mg> 
Responder a: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net> 
Fecha: jueves, 6 de diciembre de 2018, 10:47 
Para: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net> 
Asunto: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6 



Dear All, 

I think there is also another solution which is to inform the operators in each country of the situation because if only the members who will apply IPv6 it will not be possible to use it optimally. 
I do not know if a provision to that effect has already been taken but I think that all the members are aware of the situation. 

Best regard, 
Pascal Heriliva ANDRIANISA 
Webmaster i RENALA 
R esearch and E ducation N etwork for A cademic and L earning A ctivities - [ http://www.irenala.edu.mg/ | http://www.irenala.edu.mg/ ] 
Porte 201 - Minist?re de l'Enseignement Sup?rieur et de la Recherche Scientifique - Fiadanana 
GSM :+261 (0) 32 46 680 29 |? +261 (0) 34 30 680 29 

De: "Mukom Akong T." <mukom.tamon at gmail.com> 
?: "IPv6 in Africa" <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net> 
Envoy?: Jeudi 6 D?cembre 2018 06:41:29 
Objet: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6 


> 
> Consumers are unaware of IPv6, so it's not part of their buying decision. If something doesn't make consumer buy boxes, vendors don't do it. I do not think consumer education about IP is a good idea. 



Neither do I. Consumers don't DIRECTLY care about IP (whether v4 or v6). But they do care about other features that may be only possible (or easier, or cheaper) with v6. 


This is one place where I see the role of governments. In the interest of national development, just ban importation and sale of legacy equipment. Similar to what is already done with type approval in telecommunications today. 



> ISPs buying cheap boxes and not paying anything for support, so they can't get upgrades. 
> Foreign ISPs dumping volumes of used CPE, which get resold at deep discounts. 


I've been screaming about this for years. Even worse, some of it is going to be "sold" as "next generation Internet aid or technical corporation") which further cripples IPv6 deployment. 

> 
> Something that has worked for some companies is an "ISP Certified" sticker. CPE vendors could apply to an ISP, and pay the costs of testing. If the tests complied with the ISP's requirements, which might include MAP, lw4o6, or 464xlat support, the vendor is allowed to put a sticker on their box saying, "This device certified for use with $ISP." There might be a business opportunity for someone who can set up a really good CPE testing lab, so ISPs could outsource their testing and certification. 


In addition, I believe that with two days of training (regulators and customs) and the appropriate infrastructure and a PROCESS, we can help a government implement type approval for IPv6. Any regulator that wishes to do this should reach out and join the waiting list by taking the Government IPv6 Readiness Self Assessment at 

ENGLISH ? [ https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=en | https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=en ] 
FRENCH ? [ https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=fr | https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=fr ] 


> For years I have been an IPv6 advocate ? and I still am ? and I?ve actively deployed and run IPv6 in production supplying it to the end user, with multiple percentage point changes in country IPv6 penetration statistics as a result, but I am fast realizing that if we want IPv6 to grow and thrive ? it?s time we started being a little more open and honest about the challenges and problems with it ? instead of sprouting off that everyone should just move to it. ? Let?s acknowledge that IPv6 is critical, we have no option, but it is also deeply flawed, has major problems, and until start dealing with those ? we will see deployment continue to stutter 


I agree with the above. The solution is not just another open "discussion" where people who have not even started any kind of deployment, or even have a fair idea of what percentage of equipment might or might not be v6 ready go on an on about problems they've only heard about. 


> 
> Should we have a round table discussion at AIS? How can we identify and make progress on resolving issues with IPv6? 
> 


Perhaps we can start with a mailing list thread of SPECIFIC issues people have encountered while attempting a deployment on this mailing list, then build up to a webinar or discussion at AIS. 


There are probably about 400million users using IPv6 today and growing, someone somewhere has solved those problems. 


> The common theme in my answers above is that more people running IPv6 provides more weight in solving problems. If everyone would take a couple of hours to do three things, we'd have a very broad base of common experience to draw from: 
> 
> 1. Write an address plan. Don't worry if it takes several revisions, that's normal. 
> 
> 2. Apply to Afrinic for IPv6 addresses. 
> 
> 3. Announce the IPv6 addresses and route them on your backbone. 


These are things that we've helped operators implement in 1 day at our deployathons (or 6 two hour sessions during helpdesk calls). It's surprising how many operators need help with their address planning. Which is why not only do we teach them how to determine how much space they get, but also how to implement them in an IPAM.? For those interested, a video of a highly attended and rated AFRINIC webinar can be found at 


[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFIVQ_Z9je8&t=542s | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFIVQ_Z9je8&t=542s ] 

Step by step walk-through of address planning best practices and implementation in an IPAM ---- no maths! 


> 
> AFRINIC's training and IPv6 Helpdesk are great resources. 


The premise behind the helpdesk is this: We can find ONE operator a month that's committed to deploying IPv6, we keep providing targeted training and coaching to move them from one deployment milestone to another until we get stuck with incompatible equipment or internal collaboration issues. All it takes is about 4 hours investment per week. If you are interested, make a request at 


[ http://bit.ly/6deployEN | bit.ly/6deployEN ] (english) 
[ http://bit.ly/6deployFR | bit.ly/6deployFR ] (french) 

As we do this, we're also building an tremendous amount of intel on what actually HOLDS IPv6 deployment back from real operators attempting to deploy it and so far with over 45 tickets, the evidence indicates that incompatible equipment is not in the top 5. 
We're also realising that that argument from big operators about "customers aren't asking for it" is not true. We know of large operators that within 2 months have received explicitly written requests to enable IPv6 from large corporate customers. You don't want to see their response :( 
If you want to host one of our DEPLOYATHON sessions in your country 
- 5% teaching, 95% DOing 
-?using our Prototype?? Validate ? Develop?? Deploy framework 
- enables you hit a measurable deployment milestone within 8 hours 
you can apply at: [ https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=en | https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=en ] (or [ https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=fr | https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=fr ] in french) 
And for those who are still wondering how ready or not their organisations are, take our free Organisational IPv6 Readiness Assessment at [ https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=en | https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=en ] (or [ https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=fr | https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=fr ] in French) 

The results might provide pointers where to start the process. 
Until next time ..... be EXCELLENT 

-- 

Mukom Akong T. 

LinkedIn:Mukom ?| ?twitter: @perfexcellent 

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From n_idboufker at yahoo.fr  Thu Dec  6 10:22:57 2018
From: n_idboufker at yahoo.fr (Noureddine IDBOUFKER)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 10:22:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people
 moving to IPv6
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I think that Top management is not enough aware of business opportunities behind IPv6 migration.?Sure IPv6 will give them the opportunity to address a high number of objects, equipements, services,....? but it is not limited to that. Top management has to encourage their people to be express their innovation capabilities in a such a way to contribute to the developpement of Value Added Services.?Providers who will not propose new competitive service catalogue will simply die in globalized world. Top management has to know hat IPv6 is a real pillar of IT governance.?Regards?
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Noureddine IDBOUFKER 

    Le jeudi 6 d?cembre 2018 ? 10:57:24 UTC+1, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via AfrIPv6-Discuss <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net> a ?crit :  
 
 
Operators are informed, if you speak about ?engineers?, the problem is to inform the CEOs of operator AND the CEOs of important companies in each country (financial sectors, companies that export or have relevant web sites, etc.).

 ?

I recall ARIN did sent a letter to them (in their region) a few years ago.


Regards,

Jordi

 ?

 ?

 ?

De: Pascal ANDRIANISA <pascal at irenala.edu.mg>
Responder a: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Fecha: jueves, 6 de diciembre de 2018, 10:47
Para: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Asunto: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6

 ?
Dear All,

I think there is also another solution which is to inform the operators in each country of the situation because if only the members who will apply IPv6 it will not be possible to use it optimally.
I do not know if a provision to that effect has already been taken but I think that all the members are aware of the situation.

Best regard, Pascal Heriliva ANDRIANISA
 Webmaster i RENALA
 Research and Education Network for Academic and Learning Activities - http://www.irenala.edu.mg/
 Porte 201 - Minist?re de l'Enseignement Sup?rieur et de la Recherche Scientifique - Fiadanana
 GSM :+261 (0) 32 46 680 29 |? +261 (0) 34 30 680 29 ?De: "Mukom Akong T." <mukom.tamon at gmail.com>
?: "IPv6 in Africa" <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Envoy?: Jeudi 6 D?cembre 2018 06:41:29
Objet: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6 ?

>
> Consumers are unaware of IPv6, so it's not part of their buying decision. If something doesn't make consumer buy boxes, vendors don't do it. I do not think consumer education about IP is a good idea.



Neither do I. Consumers don't DIRECTLY care about IP (whether v4 or v6). But they do care about other features that may be only possible (or easier, or cheaper) with v6.


This is one place where I see the role of governments. In the interest of national development, just ban importation and sale of legacy equipment. Similar to what is already done with type approval in telecommunications today.



> ISPs buying cheap boxes and not paying anything for support, so they can't get upgrades.
> Foreign ISPs dumping volumes of used CPE, which get resold at deep discounts.


I've been screaming about this for years. Even worse, some of it is going to be "sold" as "next generation Internet aid or technical corporation") which further cripples IPv6 deployment.

>
> Something that has worked for some companies is an "ISP Certified" sticker. CPE vendors could apply to an ISP, and pay the costs of testing. If the tests complied with the ISP's requirements, which might include MAP, lw4o6, or 464xlat support, the vendor is allowed to put a sticker on their box saying, "This device certified for use with $ISP." There might be a business opportunity for someone who can set up a really good CPE testing lab, so ISPs could outsource their testing and certification.


In addition, I believe that with two days of training (regulators and customs) and the appropriate infrastructure and a PROCESS, we can help a government implement type approval for IPv6. Any regulator that wishes to do this should reach out and join the waiting list by taking the Government IPv6 Readiness Self Assessment at ?

ENGLISH ? https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=en
FRENCH ? ?https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=fr


> For years I have been an IPv6 advocate ? and I still am ? and I?ve actively deployed and run IPv6 in production supplying it to the end user, with multiple percentage point changes in country IPv6 penetration statistics as a result, but I am fast realizing that if we want IPv6 to grow and thrive ? it?s time we started being a little more open and honest about the challenges and problems with it ? instead of sprouting off that everyone should just move to it. ? Let?s acknowledge that IPv6 is critical, we have no option, but it is also deeply flawed, has major problems, and until start dealing with those ? we will see deployment continue to stutter


I agree with the above. The solution is not just another open "discussion" where people who have not even started any kind of deployment, or even have a fair idea of what percentage of equipment might or might not be v6 ready go on an on about problems they've only heard about.


>
> Should we have a round table discussion at AIS? How can we identify and make progress on resolving issues with IPv6?
>


Perhaps we can start with a mailing list thread of SPECIFIC issues people have encountered while attempting a deployment on this mailing list, then build up to a webinar or discussion at AIS.


There are probably about 400million users using IPv6 today and growing, someone somewhere has solved those problems.


> The common theme in my answers above is that more people running IPv6 provides more weight in solving problems. If everyone would take a couple of hours to do three things, we'd have a very broad base of common experience to draw from:
>
> 1. Write an address plan. Don't worry if it takes several revisions, that's normal.
>
> 2. Apply to Afrinic for IPv6 addresses.
>
> 3. Announce the IPv6 addresses and route them on your backbone.


These are things that we've helped operators implement in 1 day at our deployathons (or 6 two hour sessions during helpdesk calls). It's surprising how many operators need help with their address planning. Which is why not only do we teach them how to determine how much space they get, but also how to implement them in an IPAM.? For those interested, a video of a highly attended and rated AFRINIC webinar can be found at


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFIVQ_Z9je8&t=542s

Step by step walk-through of address planning best practices and implementation in an IPAM ---- no maths!


>
> AFRINIC's training and IPv6 Helpdesk are great resources. 


The premise behind the helpdesk is this: We can find ONE operator a month that's committed to deploying IPv6, we keep providing targeted training and coaching to move them from one deployment milestone to another until we get stuck with incompatible equipment or internal collaboration issues. All it takes is about 4 hours investment per week. If you are interested, make a request at??


bit.ly/6deployEN? ?(english)
bit.ly/6deployFR? ? (french)

As we do this, we're also building an tremendous amount of intel on what actually HOLDS IPv6 deployment back from real operators attempting to deploy it and so far with over 45 tickets, the evidence indicates that incompatible equipment is not in the top 5.?We're also realising that that argument from big operators about "customers aren't asking for it" is not true. We know of large operators that within 2 months have received explicitly written requests to enable IPv6 from large corporate customers. You don't want to see their response :( ?If you want to host one of our DEPLOYATHON sessions in your country? ?- 5% teaching, 95% DOing-?using our Prototype?? Validate ? Develop?? Deploy framework- enables you hit a measurable deployment milestone within 8 hours ?you can apply at:??https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=en?(or?https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=fr in french) ?And for those who are still wondering how ready or not their organisations are, take our free Organisational IPv6 Readiness Assessment at??https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=en? (or?https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=fr in French)
The results might provide pointers where to start the process. ?Until next time ..... be EXCELLENT

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From jordi.palet at consulintel.es  Thu Dec  6 10:49:26 2018
From: jordi.palet at consulintel.es (JORDI PALET MARTINEZ)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2018 11:49:26 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people
 moving to IPv6
Message-ID: <77DEEF24-24E5-4BD1-AB96-7CE85C4FCAAB@consulintel.es>

I also agree somehow what Mukom said before, but not 100% agreement I guess. Let me explain.

 
Governments need to setup rules to mandate IPv6 in the public sector. This is easy to say, but believe me, there is not a generic ?law? for every country. I?ve worked for several governments on this. Each country is a different case, different way to work, different circumstances, different existing laws. You need to invest several months to make this kind of law, understanding the specific country situation. Copying those laws from another country doesn?t work at all. I?ve seen other countries that tried to do that, and didn?t worked, they make big mistakes.
By mandating the government to make sure that any public acquisition needs to mandatorily support IPv6 (software, hardware, services, links, etc.), means the private sector accommodate to that if they want to participate in public tenders, and usually they will not offer a different kind of service/product for the government vs end-users. I typically invested for doing this around 3-4 months (1-person full time) in other countries. There are tons of existing regulations to read and to understand how the country public sector work and the relations with the providers.
I?m not fan of over-regulation in the private sector. I think market should do that, but the government has the obligation to protect consumers, so for example, if providers are using CGN, just to extend the life of IPv4, this is bad, and should not be allowed. Now if you allow CGN for a certain period of time (for example 2-years), while you actively deploy IPv6, then it may be good. Nevertheless, I don?t think CGN is the solution. It is actually cheaper to buy IPv4 addresses if you can?t get them from AfriNIC, because when you buy CGN, your addresses will become black-listed (example Sony Play Station Network) forever, so at the end you invest twice (CGN first, new addresses later). Of course, this only works if you actively deploy IPv6!
Similar as the previous point. Because the government needs to protect consumers, as we did in many countries for the deployment of Digital Terrestrial TV, there is a need to enforce a limit of period of time for importing any IP product that doesn?t support IPv6, for example, 1 year from now, or so. Then one additional period of 1.5 years for sell the old stocks. After that, you can?t sale anymore those products to consumers. Otherwise consumers will buy IPv4-only products, that most of the time can?t be updated (not because a hardware limitation, but because the vendor doesn?t have interest in providing new firmware, their interests is that you buy a new product). Examples IP cameras, IoT, smartTVs, CPEs, etc.
Those countries that regulate the use of IoT, they must mandate that it is done with IPv6. It doesn?t make sense at all doing IoT and not supporting IPv6 on that network! This is also related to the previous point, of course.
Governments need to define plans for broadband deployment. In some countries they subsidize private operators to do that. If this is the case, need to be done with IPv6 support.
If governments want to save money, when connecting the public administration (at all levels, municipalities, ministries, even schools and health centers), they need to invest in country-wide government networks. This can be done in several ways, own-network (probably not the best idea), tenders to cover the country with several competing operators (each one may bid for different lots), or even with regular Internet connections for the smaller sites that don?t need high-availability (and then using IPv6-only, IPv4 as a Service and SD-WAN or other technologies). I?ve talked about a recent example with a government that just by connecting 2.000 municipalities can save 300.000.000 USD. Just scale that if you have 5.000 schools + health centers + police stations + etc. etc.
 

IPv6 deployment for governments and enterprises is NOT the same as with IPv4. There is no NAT, you need to rethink your network.

 

If you want to read more about that, I?ve recently published an article (two parts):

https://teamarin.net/2018/11/28/ipv6-for-governments-and-enterprises-impact-and-implementation-in-12-steps-part-one/

https://teamarin.net/2018/11/29/ipv6-for-governments-and-enterprises-impact-and-implementation-in-12-steps-part-2/

 

I?ve also sent the article to be published by AfriNIC, but not yet seen links to that. It was right before the meeting, so I guess the communication team was very busy to be able to do that by the meeting.

 

And by the way, when I talk about IPv6 support it must be clear that the end-goal is IPv6-only, so even if we need to support today dual-stack (so old apps and devices in the LANs still work), they must be able to work also with IPv6-only WAN links and IPv4aaS (IPv4 as a Service). Again a couple of references:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-transition-ipv4aas/

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-nat64-deployment/

 


Regards,

Jordi

 

 

 

De: Pascal ANDRIANISA <pascal at irenala.edu.mg>
Fecha: jueves, 6 de diciembre de 2018, 11:18
Para: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>, IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
CC: Pascal ANDRIANISA <pascal at irenala.edu.mg>
Asunto: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6

 

Thank you Jordi, 
I think we need to go in this direction for operators to switch to IPv6 as soon as possible.

Best regards,
 

 Pascal Heriliva ANDRIANISA
 Webmaster i RENALA
 Research and Education Network for Academic and Learning Activities - http://www.irenala.edu.mg/
 Porte 201 - Minist?re de l'Enseignement Sup?rieur et de la Recherche Scientifique - Fiadanana
 GSM :+261 (0) 32 46 680 29 |? +261 (0) 34 30 680 29
 

De: "IPv6 in Africa Discussions" <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
?: "IPv6 in Africa Discussions" <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Envoy?: Jeudi 6 D?cembre 2018 12:55:48
Objet: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6

 

Operators are informed, if you speak about ?engineers?, the problem is to inform the CEOs of operator AND the CEOs of important companies in each country (financial sectors, companies that export or have relevant web sites, etc.).

 

I recall ARIN did sent a letter to them (in their region) a few years ago.


Regards,

Jordi

 

 

 

De: Pascal ANDRIANISA <pascal at irenala.edu.mg>
Responder a: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Fecha: jueves, 6 de diciembre de 2018, 10:47
Para: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Asunto: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6

 

Dear All,

I think there is also another solution which is to inform the operators in each country of the situation because if only the members who will apply IPv6 it will not be possible to use it optimally.
I do not know if a provision to that effect has already been taken but I think that all the members are aware of the situation.

Best regard,
 Pascal Heriliva ANDRIANISA
 Webmaster i RENALA
 Research and Education Network for Academic and Learning Activities - http://www.irenala.edu.mg/
 Porte 201 - Minist?re de l'Enseignement Sup?rieur et de la Recherche Scientifique - Fiadanana
 GSM :+261 (0) 32 46 680 29 |  +261 (0) 34 30 680 29
 
De: "Mukom Akong T." <mukom.tamon at gmail.com>
?: "IPv6 in Africa" <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Envoy?: Jeudi 6 D?cembre 2018 06:41:29
Objet: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6
 


>
> Consumers are unaware of IPv6, so it's not part of their buying decision. If something doesn't make consumer buy boxes, vendors don't do it. I do not think consumer education about IP is a good idea.



Neither do I. Consumers don't DIRECTLY care about IP (whether v4 or v6). But they do care about other features that may be only possible (or easier, or cheaper) with v6.


This is one place where I see the role of governments. In the interest of national development, just ban importation and sale of legacy equipment. Similar to what is already done with type approval in telecommunications today.



> ISPs buying cheap boxes and not paying anything for support, so they can't get upgrades.
> Foreign ISPs dumping volumes of used CPE, which get resold at deep discounts.


I've been screaming about this for years. Even worse, some of it is going to be "sold" as "next generation Internet aid or technical corporation") which further cripples IPv6 deployment.

>
> Something that has worked for some companies is an "ISP Certified" sticker. CPE vendors could apply to an ISP, and pay the costs of testing. If the tests complied with the ISP's requirements, which might include MAP, lw4o6, or 464xlat support, the vendor is allowed to put a sticker on their box saying, "This device certified for use with $ISP." There might be a business opportunity for someone who can set up a really good CPE testing lab, so ISPs could outsource their testing and certification.


In addition, I believe that with two days of training (regulators and customs) and the appropriate infrastructure and a PROCESS, we can help a government implement type approval for IPv6. Any regulator that wishes to do this should reach out and join the waiting list by taking the Government IPv6 Readiness Self Assessment at  

ENGLISH ? https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=en
FRENCH ?  https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=fr


> For years I have been an IPv6 advocate ? and I still am ? and I?ve actively deployed and run IPv6 in production supplying it to the end user, with multiple percentage point changes in country IPv6 penetration statistics as a result, but I am fast realizing that if we want IPv6 to grow and thrive ? it?s time we started being a little more open and honest about the challenges and problems with it ? instead of sprouting off that everyone should just move to it.   Let?s acknowledge that IPv6 is critical, we have no option, but it is also deeply flawed, has major problems, and until start dealing with those ? we will see deployment continue to stutter


I agree with the above. The solution is not just another open "discussion" where people who have not even started any kind of deployment, or even have a fair idea of what percentage of equipment might or might not be v6 ready go on an on about problems they've only heard about.


>
> Should we have a round table discussion at AIS? How can we identify and make progress on resolving issues with IPv6?
>


Perhaps we can start with a mailing list thread of SPECIFIC issues people have encountered while attempting a deployment on this mailing list, then build up to a webinar or discussion at AIS.


There are probably about 400million users using IPv6 today and growing, someone somewhere has solved those problems.


> The common theme in my answers above is that more people running IPv6 provides more weight in solving problems. If everyone would take a couple of hours to do three things, we'd have a very broad base of common experience to draw from:
>
> 1. Write an address plan. Don't worry if it takes several revisions, that's normal.
>
> 2. Apply to Afrinic for IPv6 addresses.
>
> 3. Announce the IPv6 addresses and route them on your backbone.


These are things that we've helped operators implement in 1 day at our deployathons (or 6 two hour sessions during helpdesk calls). It's surprising how many operators need help with their address planning. Which is why not only do we teach them how to determine how much space they get, but also how to implement them in an IPAM.  For those interested, a video of a highly attended and rated AFRINIC webinar can be found at


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFIVQ_Z9je8&t=542s

Step by step walk-through of address planning best practices and implementation in an IPAM ---- no maths!


>
> AFRINIC's training and IPv6 Helpdesk are great resources. 


The premise behind the helpdesk is this: We can find ONE operator a month that's committed to deploying IPv6, we keep providing targeted training and coaching to move them from one deployment milestone to another until we get stuck with incompatible equipment or internal collaboration issues. All it takes is about 4 hours investment per week. If you are interested, make a request at  


bit.ly/6deployEN   (english)
bit.ly/6deployFR    (french)

As we do this, we're also building an tremendous amount of intel on what actually HOLDS IPv6 deployment back from real operators attempting to deploy it and so far with over 45 tickets, the evidence indicates that incompatible equipment is not in the top 5. 
We're also realising that that argument from big operators about "customers aren't asking for it" is not true. We know of large operators that within 2 months have received explicitly written requests to enable IPv6 from large corporate customers. You don't want to see their response :(
 
If you want to host one of our DEPLOYATHON sessions in your country 
 
- 5% teaching, 95% DOing
- using our Prototype ? Validate ? Develop ? Deploy framework
- enables you hit a measurable deployment milestone within 8 hours
 
you can apply at:  https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=en (or https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=fr in french)
 
And for those who are still wondering how ready or not their organisations are, take our free Organisational IPv6 Readiness Assessment at  https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=en  (or https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=fr in French)

The results might provide pointers where to start the process.
 
Until next time ..... be EXCELLENT

-- 

Mukom Akong T.

LinkedIn:Mukom  |  twitter: @perfexcellent  

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From jordi.palet at consulintel.es  Thu Dec  6 10:56:36 2018
From: jordi.palet at consulintel.es (JORDI PALET MARTINEZ)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2018 11:56:36 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people
 moving to IPv6
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Note that is not a migration, this is one of the first mistakes. It is a transition and coexistence. We really need to talk with the proper terminology or we will confuse others. The IETF never did any ?migration? protocol, all them are ?transition and coexistence?.

 

You don?t ?disable? IPv4 in the complete network overnight, otherwise you break many apps and services that don?t yet support IPv6.

 

And yes, agree with you, is not just being aware of the IPv4-exhaustion, but also that the business opportunities of deploying IPv6. And the first one is ?keep your business working!?, but IoT, new services, new apps, etc., as well.

 

My experience shows that usually engineers are aware (they may have the complete knowledge or not, but they know that they need to do IPv6), but in most organizations, executive management don?t pay attention to what their own engineers are saying. We like it or not, but that's why consultants exist ? (they devote time/money across many years, to learn about those topics, get experience, and then resell the expertise to customers). Experienced trainers, which are actively deploying IPv6 and do consultancy to customers may look expensive (which is not always the case), but if you compare that to how much ?internal? investment in own resources and time you save, it is very cheap.


Regards,

Jordi

 

 

 

De: Noureddine IDBOUFKER <n_idboufker at yahoo.fr>
Fecha: jueves, 6 de diciembre de 2018, 11:23
Para: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>
Asunto: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6

 

I think that Top management is not enough aware of business opportunities behind IPv6 migration. 

Sure IPv6 will give them the opportunity to address a high number of objects, equipements, services,....  but it is not limited to that. Top management has to encourage their people to be express their innovation capabilities in a such a way to contribute to the developpement of Value Added Services. 

Providers who will not propose new competitive service catalogue will simply die in globalized world. Top management has to know hat IPv6 is a real pillar of IT governance. 

Regards 

-----------------------------------------------
Noureddine IDBOUFKER

 

 

Le jeudi 6 d?cembre 2018 ? 10:57:24 UTC+1, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via AfrIPv6-Discuss <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net> a ?crit : 

 

 

Operators are informed, if you speak about ?engineers?, the problem is to inform the CEOs of operator AND the CEOs of important companies in each country (financial sectors, companies that export or have relevant web sites, etc.).

 

I recall ARIN did sent a letter to them (in their region) a few years ago.


Regards,

Jordi

 

 

 

De: Pascal ANDRIANISA <pascal at irenala.edu.mg>
Responder a: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Fecha: jueves, 6 de diciembre de 2018, 10:47
Para: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Asunto: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6

 

Dear All,

I think there is also another solution which is to inform the operators in each country of the situation because if only the members who will apply IPv6 it will not be possible to use it optimally.
I do not know if a provision to that effect has already been taken but I think that all the members are aware of the situation.

Best regard,
 Pascal Heriliva ANDRIANISA
 Webmaster i RENALA
 Research and Education Network for Academic and Learning Activities - http://www.irenala.edu.mg/
 Porte 201 - Minist?re de l'Enseignement Sup?rieur et de la Recherche Scientifique - Fiadanana
 GSM :+261 (0) 32 46 680 29 |  +261 (0) 34 30 680 29
  
De: "Mukom Akong T." <mukom.tamon at gmail.com>
?: "IPv6 in Africa" <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Envoy?: Jeudi 6 D?cembre 2018 06:41:29
Objet: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6
  


>
> Consumers are unaware of IPv6, so it's not part of their buying decision. If something doesn't make consumer buy boxes, vendors don't do it. I do not think consumer education about IP is a good idea.



Neither do I. Consumers don't DIRECTLY care about IP (whether v4 or v6). But they do care about other features that may be only possible (or easier, or cheaper) with v6.


This is one place where I see the role of governments. In the interest of national development, just ban importation and sale of legacy equipment. Similar to what is already done with type approval in telecommunications today.



> ISPs buying cheap boxes and not paying anything for support, so they can't get upgrades.
> Foreign ISPs dumping volumes of used CPE, which get resold at deep discounts.


I've been screaming about this for years. Even worse, some of it is going to be "sold" as "next generation Internet aid or technical corporation") which further cripples IPv6 deployment.

>
> Something that has worked for some companies is an "ISP Certified" sticker. CPE vendors could apply to an ISP, and pay the costs of testing. If the tests complied with the ISP's requirements, which might include MAP, lw4o6, or 464xlat support, the vendor is allowed to put a sticker on their box saying, "This device certified for use with $ISP." There might be a business opportunity for someone who can set up a really good CPE testing lab, so ISPs could outsource their testing and certification.


In addition, I believe that with two days of training (regulators and customs) and the appropriate infrastructure and a PROCESS, we can help a government implement type approval for IPv6. Any regulator that wishes to do this should reach out and join the waiting list by taking the Government IPv6 Readiness Self Assessment at  

ENGLISH ? https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=en
FRENCH ?  https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=fr


> For years I have been an IPv6 advocate ? and I still am ? and I?ve actively deployed and run IPv6 in production supplying it to the end user, with multiple percentage point changes in country IPv6 penetration statistics as a result, but I am fast realizing that if we want IPv6 to grow and thrive ? it?s time we started being a little more open and honest about the challenges and problems with it ? instead of sprouting off that everyone should just move to it.   Let?s acknowledge that IPv6 is critical, we have no option, but it is also deeply flawed, has major problems, and until start dealing with those ? we will see deployment continue to stutter


I agree with the above. The solution is not just another open "discussion" where people who have not even started any kind of deployment, or even have a fair idea of what percentage of equipment might or might not be v6 ready go on an on about problems they've only heard about.


>
> Should we have a round table discussion at AIS? How can we identify and make progress on resolving issues with IPv6?
>


Perhaps we can start with a mailing list thread of SPECIFIC issues people have encountered while attempting a deployment on this mailing list, then build up to a webinar or discussion at AIS.


There are probably about 400million users using IPv6 today and growing, someone somewhere has solved those problems.


> The common theme in my answers above is that more people running IPv6 provides more weight in solving problems. If everyone would take a couple of hours to do three things, we'd have a very broad base of common experience to draw from:
>
> 1. Write an address plan. Don't worry if it takes several revisions, that's normal.
>
> 2. Apply to Afrinic for IPv6 addresses.
>
> 3. Announce the IPv6 addresses and route them on your backbone.


These are things that we've helped operators implement in 1 day at our deployathons (or 6 two hour sessions during helpdesk calls). It's surprising how many operators need help with their address planning. Which is why not only do we teach them how to determine how much space they get, but also how to implement them in an IPAM.  For those interested, a video of a highly attended and rated AFRINIC webinar can be found at


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFIVQ_Z9je8&t=542s

Step by step walk-through of address planning best practices and implementation in an IPAM ---- no maths!


>
> AFRINIC's training and IPv6 Helpdesk are great resources. 


The premise behind the helpdesk is this: We can find ONE operator a month that's committed to deploying IPv6, we keep providing targeted training and coaching to move them from one deployment milestone to another until we get stuck with incompatible equipment or internal collaboration issues. All it takes is about 4 hours investment per week. If you are interested, make a request at  


bit.ly/6deployEN   (english)
bit.ly/6deployFR    (french)

As we do this, we're also building an tremendous amount of intel on what actually HOLDS IPv6 deployment back from real operators attempting to deploy it and so far with over 45 tickets, the evidence indicates that incompatible equipment is not in the top 5. 
We're also realising that that argument from big operators about "customers aren't asking for it" is not true. We know of large operators that within 2 months have received explicitly written requests to enable IPv6 from large corporate customers. You don't want to see their response :(
  
If you want to host one of our DEPLOYATHON sessions in your country 
  
- 5% teaching, 95% DOing
- using our Prototype ? Validate ? Develop ? Deploy framework
- enables you hit a measurable deployment milestone within 8 hours
  
you can apply at:  https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=en (or https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=fr in french)
  
And for those who are still wondering how ready or not their organisations are, take our free Organisational IPv6 Readiness Assessment at  https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=en  (or https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=fr in French)

The results might provide pointers where to start the process.
  
Until next time ..... be EXCELLENT

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From tamon at afrinic.net  Thu Dec  6 11:11:33 2018
From: tamon at afrinic.net (Mukom Akong T)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 15:11:33 +0400
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people
 moving to IPv6
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On 6 Dec 2018, 14:57 +0400, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>, wrote:
>
> My experience shows that usually engineers are aware (they may have the complete knowledge or not, but they know that they need to do IPv6), but in most organizations, executive management don?t pay attention to what their own engineers are saying.


True. Anyone with remote experience how organisations work will know that: if management doesn?t support it, it?s never going to happen.
Our revamped ?IPv6 Strategy & Planning for Executives? workshop is designed to help managers with exactly this problem. If you are interested in hosting it in your country, express interest at


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From mje at posix.co.za  Thu Dec  6 12:08:47 2018
From: mje at posix.co.za (Mark Elkins)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 14:08:47 +0200
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people
 moving to IPv6
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Hi,

I would like to see people NOT deploy IPv6 - rather use the more costly
CGN method of keeping your IPv4 address space going. Services you supply
will cost more but no worries - just pass your costs on to your
customers. In time, your
customers may find they can't get to every Web Site because those sites
no longer have any IPv4 access. This will make your life easier as there
will be less to go wrong.
Of course, the clever customers will leave you (to go to me) but that's
good for you as the fewer customers you have, the less complaints you have.

I received my current IPv6 address space in January 2007. I think
everything I had was dual-stacked by February 2007 - that is, if a
customer has a web or e-mail service with me - that service is
accessible both by IPv4 and IPv6 connections. I've also given various
presentations at AFRINIC on IPv6 and ended up as the Chair of the IPV6
Government Working Group for the South African Government.

A number of years ago, whilst doing work for an organisation in Zambia,
I "persuaded" a little company called Liquid Telecom to give IPv6
connectivity to my customer or I wouldn't buy from them. Recently - that
same company, Liquid Telecom, received International Awards for their
IPv6 network and Liquid Telecom isn't really that small either - from an
African prospective, they stretch from Cape Town to Cairo.

If you seriously want to run IPv6 on your network and don't know how (or
why) - then you are welcome to contact me, pay me consulting fees (far
cheaper than CGN) and I'll happily help you.

ps - I also do DNSSEC, DANE and other cool security things.

On 12/6/18 1:11 PM, Mukom Akong T wrote:
> On 6 Dec 2018, 14:57 +0400, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
> <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>, wrote:
>>
>> My experience shows that usually engineers are aware (they may have
>> the complete knowledge or not, but they know that they need to do
>> IPv6), but in most organizations, executive management don?t pay
>> attention to what their own engineers are saying.
>
>
> True. Anyone with remote experience how organisations work will know
> that: if management doesn?t support it, it?s never going to happen.
> Our revamped ?IPv6 Strategy & Planning for Executives? workshop is
> designed to help managers with exactly this problem. If you are
> interested in hosting it in your country, express interest at
>
>
> https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=en
>
>
>
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From lee.howard at retevia.net  Thu Dec  6 14:35:02 2018
From: lee.howard at retevia.net (Lee Howard)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 09:35:02 -0500
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people
 moving to IPv6
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This is a good point. IPv6, like the Internet itself, benefits from the 
"network effect," where it is more valuable as more people use it.

A telecom regulator can call a meeting of ISPs, mobile carriers, web 
hosts, IXP,? the NREN or university, and maybe a few large companies, 
kick off with a presentation about why IPv6 is important, and ask 
everyone what their plan is to provide IPv6 to their customers. Anyone 
who does not have a current plan can say when they'll have a plan, and 
the group can get together in six months to track progress.

In some countries, this kind of meeting has been called by someone other 
than the telecom regulator. Probably everyone on this list can write the 
guest list, and work with others to convene the meeting. I imagine 
Afrinic would help, too.

If the meeting opens with, "In 6-12 months, nobody else in country will 
be able to get Internet access, because we will be unable to get more 
IPv4 addresses," you will have their attention. Source: 
http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/index.html

Lee


On 12/6/18 4:41 AM, Pascal ANDRIANISA wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I think there is also another solution which is to inform the operators in each country of the situation because if only the members who will apply IPv6 it will not be possible to use it optimally.
> I do not know if a provision to that effect has already been taken but I think that all the members are aware of the situation.
>
> Best regard,
> *Pascal* Heriliva ANDRIANISA Webmaster i RENALA *R*esearch and 
> *E*ducation *N*etwork for *A*cademic and *L*earning *A*ctivities - 
> http://www.irenala.edu.mg/ Porte 201 - Minist?re de l'Enseignement 
> Sup?rieur et de la Recherche Scientifique - Fiadanana_GSM _:+261 (0) 32 46 680 29 |  +261 (0) 34 30 680 29
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *De: *"Mukom Akong T." <mukom.tamon at gmail.com> *?: *"IPv6 in Africa" 
> <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net> *Envoy?: *Jeudi 6 D?cembre 2018 06:41:29 
> *Objet: *Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop 
> people moving to IPv6
>
> > > Consumers are unaware of IPv6, so it's not part of their buying 
> decision. If something doesn't make consumer buy boxes, vendors don't 
> do it. I do not think consumer education about IP is a good idea. 
> Neither do I. Consumers don't DIRECTLY care about IP (whether v4 or 
> v6). But they do care about other features that may be only possible 
> (or easier, or cheaper) with v6. This is one place where I see the 
> role of governments. In the interest of national development, just ban 
> importation and sale of legacy equipment. Similar to what is already 
> done with type approval in telecommunications today. > ISPs buying 
> cheap boxes and not paying anything for support, so they can't get 
> upgrades. > Foreign ISPs dumping volumes of used CPE, which get resold 
> at deep discounts. I've been screaming about this for years. Even 
> worse, some of it is going to be "sold" as "next generation Internet 
> aid or technical corporation") which further cripples IPv6 deployment. 
> > > Something that has worked for some companies is an "ISP Certified" 
> sticker. CPE vendors could apply to an ISP, and pay the costs of 
> testing. If the tests complied with the ISP's requirements, which 
> might include MAP, lw4o6, or 464xlat support, the vendor is allowed to 
> put a sticker on their box saying, "This device certified for use with 
> $ISP." There might be a business opportunity for someone who can set 
> up a really good CPE testing lab, so ISPs could outsource their 
> testing and certification. In addition, I believe that with two days 
> of training (regulators and customs) and the appropriate 
> infrastructure and a PROCESS, we can help a government implement type 
> approval for IPv6. Any regulator that wishes to do this should reach 
> out and join the waiting list by taking the Government IPv6 Readiness 
> Self Assessment at ENGLISH ? https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=en 
> FRENCH ? https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=fr > For years I have 
> been an IPv6 advocate ? and I still am ? and I?ve actively deployed 
> and run IPv6 in production supplying it to the end user, with multiple 
> percentage point changes in country IPv6 penetration statistics as a 
> result, but I am fast realizing that if we want IPv6 to grow and 
> thrive ? it?s time we started being a little more open and honest 
> about the challenges and problems with it ? instead of sprouting off 
> that everyone should just move to it. ? Let?s acknowledge that IPv6 is 
> critical, we have no option, but it is also deeply flawed, has major 
> problems, and until start dealing with those ? we will see deployment 
> continue to stutter I agree with the above. The solution is not just 
> another open "discussion" where people who have not even started any 
> kind of deployment, or even have a fair idea of what percentage of 
> equipment might or might not be v6 ready go on an on about problems 
> they've only heard about. > > Should we have a round table discussion 
> at AIS? How can we identify and make progress on resolving issues with 
> IPv6? > Perhaps we can start with a mailing list thread of SPECIFIC 
> issues people have encountered while attempting a deployment on this 
> mailing list, then build up to a webinar or discussion at AIS. There 
> are probably about 400million users using IPv6 today and growing, 
> someone somewhere has solved those problems. > The common theme in my 
> answers above is that more people running IPv6 provides more weight in 
> solving problems. If everyone would take a couple of hours to do three 
> things, we'd have a very broad base of common experience to draw from: 
> > > 1. Write an address plan. Don't worry if it takes several 
> revisions, that's normal. > > 2. Apply to Afrinic for IPv6 addresses. 
> > > 3. Announce the IPv6 addresses and route them on your backbone. 
> These are things that we've helped operators implement in 1 day at our 
> deployathons (or 6 two hour sessions during helpdesk calls). It's 
> surprising how many operators need help with their address planning. 
> Which is why not only do we teach them how to determine how much space 
> they get, but also how to implement them in an IPAM.? For those 
> interested, a video of a highly attended and rated AFRINIC webinar can 
> be found at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFIVQ_Z9je8&t=542s Step by 
> step walk-through of address planning best practices and 
> implementation in an IPAM ---- no maths! > > AFRINIC's training and 
> IPv6 Helpdesk are great resources. The premise behind the helpdesk is 
> this: We can find ONE operator a month that's committed to deploying 
> IPv6, we keep providing targeted training and coaching to move them 
> from one deployment milestone to another until we get stuck with 
> incompatible equipment or internal collaboration issues. All it takes 
> is about 4 hours investment per week. If you are interested, make a 
> request at bit.ly/6deployEN <http://bit.ly/6deployEN>? ?(english) 
> bit.ly/6deployFR <http://bit.ly/6deployFR>? ? (french) As we do this, 
> we're also building an tremendous amount of intel on what actually 
> HOLDS IPv6 deployment back from real operators attempting to deploy it 
> and so far with over 45 tickets, the evidence indicates that 
> incompatible equipment is not in the top 5.
> We're also realising that that argument from big operators about 
> "customers aren't asking for it" is not true. We know of large 
> operators that within 2 months have received explicitly written 
> requests to enable IPv6 from large corporate customers. You don't want 
> to see their response :(
> If you want to host one of our DEPLOYATHON sessions in your country
> - 5% teaching, 95% DOing
> -?using our Prototype?? Validate ? Develop?? Deploy framework
> - enables you hit a measurable deployment milestone within 8 hours
> you can apply at: https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=en?(or 
> https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=fr in french)
> And for those who are still wondering how ready or not their 
> organisations are, take our free Organisational IPv6 Readiness 
> Assessment at https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=en? (or 
> https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=fr in French)
> The results might provide pointers where to start the process.
> Until next time ..... be EXCELLENT -- Mukom Akong T. LinkedIn:Mukom ?| 
> ?twitter: @perfexcellent 
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From lee.howard at retevia.net  Thu Dec  6 14:49:42 2018
From: lee.howard at retevia.net (Lee Howard)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 09:49:42 -0500
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people
 moving to IPv6
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On 12/6/18 5:22 AM, Noureddine IDBOUFKER via AfrIPv6-Discuss wrote:
> I think that Top management is not enough *aware *of business 
> opportunities behind IPv6 migration.
> Sure IPv6 will give them the opportunity to address a high number of 
> objects, equipements, services,....? but it is not limited to that. 
> Top management has to encourage their people to be express their 
> innovation capabilities in a such a way to contribute to the 
> developpement of Value Added Services.
> Providers who will not propose new competitive service catalogue will 
> simply die in globalized world. Top management has to know hat IPv6 is 
> a real pillar of IT governance.

I agree with that. I have several presentations on business reasons for 
IPv6, which I imagine overlap with AFRINIC's IPv6 for Executives training:

  * Not running out of addresses, so you can keep adding customers
  * Faster [1]
  * Because it's faster, Google page rank is higher; more customers see
    your web site
  * Because it's faster, users spend more time on the page; more ad revenue
  * IPv6 is on by default; may present security risks if not secured
  * Use addresses to identify services; easier policy routing, ACLs,
    security, troubleshooting, etc.
  * New diagnostic tools PDM [rfc8250] and maybe M-PDM
    [draft-fear-ippm-mpdm]
  * Simpler container networking [2]
  * Segment Routing with IPv6: no MPLS/LDP/RSVP-TE/NSH, it's all just
    IP. [3]

The last few are cutting-edge developments that are not widely available 
yet, but are examples of innovations enabled by IPv6. I didn't even list 
"It's not NAT" because you're likely to use some kind of address sharing 
to reach legacy IPv4 sites, but that need declines as others deploy, and 
it may be cheaper than NAT44.

IPv6 is cool.

Lee

[1] https://stats.labs.apnic.net/v6perf/XB

[2] *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF50OxZ5u4o*

*[3] ***https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUN68P6UAn0**

**

> Regards
> -----------------------------------------------
> Noureddine IDBOUFKER
>
>
> Le jeudi 6 d?cembre 2018 ? 10:57:24 UTC+1, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via 
> AfrIPv6-Discuss <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net> a ?crit :
>
>
> Operators are informed, if you speak about ?engineers?, the problem is 
> to inform the CEOs of operator AND the CEOs of important companies in 
> each country (financial sectors, companies that export or have 
> relevant web sites, etc.).
>
> I recall ARIN did sent a letter to them (in their region) a few years ago.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jordi
>
> *De: *Pascal ANDRIANISA <pascal at irenala.edu.mg>
> *Responder a: *IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
> *Fecha: *jueves, 6 de diciembre de 2018, 10:47
> *Para: *IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
> *Asunto: *Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop 
> people moving to IPv6
>
> Dear All, I think there is also another solution which is to inform 
> the operators in each country of the situation because if only the 
> members who will apply IPv6 it will not be possible to use it 
> optimally. I do not know if a provision to that effect has already 
> been taken but I think that all the members are aware of the 
> situation. Best regard,
> *Pascal*Heriliva ANDRIANISA Webmaster i RENALA *R*esearch and *E*ducation 
> *N*etwork for *A*cademic and *L*earning *A*ctivities - 
> http://www.irenala.edu.mg/ Porte 201 - Minist?re de l'Enseignement 
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> <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net> *Envoy?: *Jeudi 6 D?cembre 2018 06:41:29 
> *Objet: *Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop 
> people moving to IPv6
> > > Consumers are unaware of IPv6, so it's not part of their buying 
> decision. If something doesn't make consumer buy boxes, vendors don't 
> do it. I do not think consumer education about IP is a good idea. 
> Neither do I. Consumers don't DIRECTLY care about IP (whether v4 or 
> v6). But they do care about other features that may be only possible 
> (or easier, or cheaper) with v6. This is one place where I see the 
> role of governments. In the interest of national development, just ban 
> importation and sale of legacy equipment. Similar to what is already 
> done with type approval in telecommunications today. > ISPs buying 
> cheap boxes and not paying anything for support, so they can't get 
> upgrades. > Foreign ISPs dumping volumes of used CPE, which get resold 
> at deep discounts. I've been screaming about this for years. Even 
> worse, some of it is going to be "sold" as "next generation Internet 
> aid or technical corporation") which further cripples IPv6 deployment. 
> > > Something that has worked for some companies is an "ISP Certified" 
> sticker. CPE vendors could apply to an ISP, and pay the costs of 
> testing. If the tests complied with the ISP's requirements, which 
> might include MAP, lw4o6, or 464xlat support, the vendor is allowed to 
> put a sticker on their box saying, "This device certified for use with 
> $ISP." There might be a business opportunity for someone who can set 
> up a really good CPE testing lab, so ISPs could outsource their 
> testing and certification. In addition, I believe that with two days 
> of training (regulators and customs) and the appropriate 
> infrastructure and a PROCESS, we can help a government implement type 
> approval for IPv6. Any regulator that wishes to do this should reach 
> out and join the waiting list by taking the Government IPv6 Readiness 
> Self Assessment at ENGLISH ? https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=en 
> FRENCH ? https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=fr > For years I have 
> been an IPv6 advocate ? and I still am ? and I?ve actively deployed 
> and run IPv6 in production supplying it to the end user, with multiple 
> percentage point changes in country IPv6 penetration statistics as a 
> result, but I am fast realizing that if we want IPv6 to grow and 
> thrive ? it?s time we started being a little more open and honest 
> about the challenges and problems with it ? instead of sprouting off 
> that everyone should just move to it. ? Let?s acknowledge that IPv6 is 
> critical, we have no option, but it is also deeply flawed, has major 
> problems, and until start dealing with those ? we will see deployment 
> continue to stutter I agree with the above. The solution is not just 
> another open "discussion" where people who have not even started any 
> kind of deployment, or even have a fair idea of what percentage of 
> equipment might or might not be v6 ready go on an on about problems 
> they've only heard about. > > Should we have a round table discussion 
> at AIS? How can we identify and make progress on resolving issues with 
> IPv6? > Perhaps we can start with a mailing list thread of SPECIFIC 
> issues people have encountered while attempting a deployment on this 
> mailing list, then build up to a webinar or discussion at AIS. There 
> are probably about 400million users using IPv6 today and growing, 
> someone somewhere has solved those problems. > The common theme in my 
> answers above is that more people running IPv6 provides more weight in 
> solving problems. If everyone would take a couple of hours to do three 
> things, we'd have a very broad base of common experience to draw from: 
> > > 1. Write an address plan. Don't worry if it takes several 
> revisions, that's normal. > > 2. Apply to Afrinic for IPv6 addresses. 
> > > 3. Announce the IPv6 addresses and route them on your backbone. 
> These are things that we've helped operators implement in 1 day at our 
> deployathons (or 6 two hour sessions during helpdesk calls). It's 
> surprising how many operators need help with their address planning. 
> Which is why not only do we teach them how to determine how much space 
> they get, but also how to implement them in an IPAM.? For those 
> interested, a video of a highly attended and rated AFRINIC webinar can 
> be found at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFIVQ_Z9je8&t=542s Step by 
> step walk-through of address planning best practices and 
> implementation in an IPAM ---- no maths! > > AFRINIC's training and 
> IPv6 Helpdesk are great resources. The premise behind the helpdesk is 
> this: We can find ONE operator a month that's committed to deploying 
> IPv6, we keep providing targeted training and coaching to move them 
> from one deployment milestone to another until we get stuck with 
> incompatible equipment or internal collaboration issues. All it takes 
> is about 4 hours investment per week. If you are interested, make a 
> request at bit.ly/6deployEN <http://bit.ly/6deployEN>? ?(english) 
> bit.ly/6deployFR <http://bit.ly/6deployFR>? ? (french) As we do this, 
> we're also building an tremendous amount of intel on what actually 
> HOLDS IPv6 deployment back from real operators attempting to deploy it 
> and so far with over 45 tickets, the evidence indicates that 
> incompatible equipment is not in the top 5.
> We're also realising that that argument from big operators about 
> "customers aren't asking for it" is not true. We know of large 
> operators that within 2 months have received explicitly written 
> requests to enable IPv6 from large corporate customers. You don't want 
> to see their response :(
> If you want to host one of our DEPLOYATHON sessions in your country
> - 5% teaching, 95% DOing
> -?using our Prototype?? Validate ? Develop?? Deploy framework
> - enables you hit a measurable deployment milestone within 8 hours
> you can apply at: https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=en?(or 
> https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=fr in french)
> And for those who are still wondering how ready or not their 
> organisations are, take our free Organisational IPv6 Readiness 
> Assessment at https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=en? (or 
> https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=fr in French)
> The results might provide pointers where to start the process.
> Until next time ..... be EXCELLENT -- Mukom Akong T. LinkedIn:Mukom ?| 
> ?twitter: @perfexcellent 
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From n_idboufker at yahoo.fr  Thu Dec  6 18:47:25 2018
From: n_idboufker at yahoo.fr (Noureddine IDBOUFKER)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 18:47:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people
 moving to IPv6
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Sure there are many opportunities behind Transition to IPv6 but unfortunately, for African Operators in each country, there is also a risk. Every day elapsed before this transition moves them towards a very risky situation. I talk about Business and also technical risks. Unfortunately, the majority of operators has an urgency mindset.??I am really convinced that in order to encourage them to transit to IPv6, African Communities has to focus on risks and the urgency aspect of the transition. For example leading studies in order to produce a kind of SWOT Matrix, adapted to the African context, establishing Strengths, Weaknesses, Threats and Opportunities.
Regards-----------------------------------------------
Noureddine IDBOUFKERhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/idboufkernoureddine/
 

    Le jeudi 6 d?cembre 2018 ? 15:51:06 UTC+1, Lee Howard <lee.howard at retevia.net> a ?crit :  
 
  

 
 On 12/6/18 5:22 AM, Noureddine IDBOUFKER via AfrIPv6-Discuss wrote:
  
 
  I think that Top management is not enough aware of business opportunities behind IPv6 migration.? Sure IPv6 will give them the opportunity to address a high number of objects, equipements, services,....? but it is not limited to that. Top management has to encourage their people to be express their innovation capabilities in a such a way to contribute  to the developpement of Value Added Services.? Providers who will not propose new competitive service catalogue will simply die in globalized world. Top management has to know hat IPv6 is a real pillar of IT governance. 
    
I agree with that. I have several presentations on business reasons for IPv6, which I imagine overlap with AFRINIC's IPv6 for Executives training:
    
   - Not running out of addresses, so you can keep adding customers
   - Faster [1]   
 
   - Because it's faster, Google page rank is higher; more customers see your web site   
 
   - Because it's faster, users spend more time on the page; more ad revenue   
 
   - IPv6 is on by default; may present security risks if not secured
   - Use addresses to identify services; easier policy routing, ACLs, security, troubleshooting, etc.
   - New diagnostic tools PDM [rfc8250] and maybe M-PDM [draft-fear-ippm-mpdm]
   - Simpler container networking [2]   
 
   - Segment Routing with IPv6: no MPLS/LDP/RSVP-TE/NSH, it's all just IP. [3]   
 
 
The last few are cutting-edge developments that are not widely available yet, but are examples of innovations enabled by IPv6. I didn't even list "It's not NAT" because you're likely to use some kind of address sharing to reach legacy IPv4 sites, but that need declines as others deploy, and it may be cheaper than NAT44.
 
IPv6 is cool.
 
 
Lee
 
 
[1] https://stats.labs.apnic.net/v6perf/XB 
 
 
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF50OxZ5u4o 
 
[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUN68P6UAn0
 

 
   Regards?
  -----------------------------------------------
 Noureddine IDBOUFKER  
  
      Le jeudi 6 d?cembre 2018 ? 10:57:24 UTC+1, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via AfrIPv6-Discuss <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net> a ?crit :  
  
      
Operators are informed, if you speak about ?engineers?, the problem is to inform the CEOs of operator AND the CEOs of important companies in each country (financial sectors, companies that export or have relevant web sites, etc.).
 
 ?
 
I recall ARIN did sent a letter to them (in their region) a few years ago.
  

 Regards,
 
Jordi
 
 ?
  
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De: Pascal ANDRIANISA <pascal at irenala.edu.mg>
 Responder a: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
 Fecha: jueves, 6 de diciembre de 2018, 10:47
 Para: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
 Asunto: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6
   
 ?
    Dear All,

I think there is also another solution which is to inform the operators in each country of the situation because if only the members who will apply IPv6 it will not be possible to use it optimally.
I do not know if a provision to that effect has already been taken but I think that all the members are aware of the situation.

Best regard,   Pascal Heriliva ANDRIANISA
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?: "IPv6 in Africa" <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Envoy?: Jeudi 6 D?cembre 2018 06:41:29
Objet: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving to IPv6   ?          

>
> Consumers are unaware of IPv6, so it's not part of their buying decision. If something doesn't make consumer buy boxes, vendors don't do it. I do not think consumer education about IP is a good idea.



Neither do I. Consumers don't DIRECTLY care about IP (whether v4 or v6). But they do care about other features that may be only possible (or easier, or cheaper) with v6.


This is one place where I see the role of governments. In the interest of national development, just ban importation and sale of legacy equipment. Similar to what is already done with type approval in telecommunications today.



> ISPs buying cheap boxes and not paying anything for support, so they can't get upgrades.
> Foreign ISPs dumping volumes of used CPE, which get resold at deep discounts.


I've been screaming about this for years. Even worse, some of it is going to be "sold" as "next generation Internet aid or technical corporation") which further cripples IPv6 deployment.

>
> Something that has worked for some companies is an "ISP Certified" sticker. CPE vendors could apply to an ISP, and pay the costs of testing. If the tests complied with the ISP's requirements, which might include MAP, lw4o6, or 464xlat support, the vendor is allowed to put a sticker on their box saying, "This device certified for use with $ISP." There might be a business opportunity for someone who can set up a really good CPE testing lab, so ISPs could outsource their testing and certification.


In addition, I believe that with two days of training (regulators and customs) and the appropriate infrastructure and a PROCESS, we can help a government implement type approval for IPv6. Any regulator that wishes to do this should reach out and join the waiting list by taking the Government IPv6 Readiness Self Assessment at ?

ENGLISH ? https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=en
FRENCH ? ?https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=fr


> For years I have been an IPv6 advocate ? and I still am ? and I?ve actively deployed and run IPv6 in production supplying it to the end user, with multiple percentage point changes in country IPv6 penetration statistics as a result, but I am fast realizing that if we want IPv6 to grow and thrive ? it?s time we started being a little more open and honest about the challenges and problems with it ? instead of sprouting off that everyone should just move to it. ? Let?s acknowledge that IPv6 is critical, we have no option, but it is also deeply flawed, has major problems, and until start dealing with those ? we will see deployment continue to stutter


I agree with the above. The solution is not just another open "discussion" where people who have not even started any kind of deployment, or even have a fair idea of what percentage of equipment might or might not be v6 ready go on an on about problems they've only heard about.


>
> Should we have a round table discussion at AIS? How can we identify and make progress on resolving issues with IPv6?
>


Perhaps we can start with a mailing list thread of SPECIFIC issues people have encountered while attempting a deployment on this mailing list, then build up to a webinar or discussion at AIS.


There are probably about 400million users using IPv6 today and growing, someone somewhere has solved those problems.


> The common theme in my answers above is that more people running IPv6 provides more weight in solving problems. If everyone would take a couple of hours to do three things, we'd have a very broad base of common experience to draw from:
>
> 1. Write an address plan. Don't worry if it takes several revisions, that's normal.
>
> 2. Apply to Afrinic for IPv6 addresses.
>
> 3. Announce the IPv6 addresses and route them on your backbone.


These are things that we've helped operators implement in 1 day at our deployathons (or 6 two hour sessions during helpdesk calls). It's surprising how many operators need help with their address planning. Which is why not only do we teach them how to determine how much space they get, but also how to implement them in an IPAM.? For those interested, a video of a highly attended and rated AFRINIC webinar can be found at


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFIVQ_Z9je8&t=542s

Step by step walk-through of address planning best practices and implementation in an IPAM ---- no maths!


>
> AFRINIC's training and IPv6 Helpdesk are great resources. 


The premise behind the helpdesk is this: We can find ONE operator a month that's committed to deploying IPv6, we keep providing targeted training and coaching to move them from one deployment milestone to another until we get stuck with incompatible equipment or internal collaboration issues. All it takes is about 4 hours investment per week. If you are interested, make a request at??


bit.ly/6deployEN? ?(english)
bit.ly/6deployFR? ? (french)

As we do this, we're also building an tremendous amount of intel on what actually HOLDS IPv6 deployment back from real operators attempting to deploy it and so far with over 45 tickets, the evidence indicates that incompatible equipment is not in the top 5.?  We're also realising that that argument from big operators about "customers aren't asking for it" is not true. We know of large operators that within 2 months have received explicitly written requests to enable IPv6 from large corporate customers. You don't want to see their response :(   ?  If you want to host one of our DEPLOYATHON sessions in your country?   ?  - 5% teaching, 95% DOing   -?using our Prototype?? Validate ? Develop?? Deploy framework   - enables you hit a measurable deployment milestone within 8 hours   ?  you can apply at:??https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=en?(or?https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=fr in french)   ?  And for those who are still wondering how ready or not their organisations are, take our free Organisational IPv6 Readiness Assessment at??https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=en? (or?https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=fr in French)   
The results might provide pointers where to start the process.   ?  Until next time ..... be EXCELLENT

-- 

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From lee.howard at retevia.net  Thu Dec  6 19:25:52 2018
From: lee.howard at retevia.net (Lee Howard)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 14:25:52 -0500
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people
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On 12/6/18 1:47 PM, Noureddine IDBOUFKER via AfrIPv6-Discuss wrote:
> Sure there are many opportunities behind Transition to IPv6 but 
> unfortunately, for African Operators in each country, there is also a 
> risk. Every day elapsed before this transition moves them towards a 
> very risky situation. I talk about Business and also technical risks. 
> Unfortunately, the majority of operators has an urgency mindset.
> ?I am really convinced that in order to encourage them to transit to 
> IPv6, African Communities has to focus on risks and the urgency aspect 
> of the transition. For example leading studies in order to produce a 
> kind of SWOT Matrix, adapted to the African context, establishing 
> Strengths, Weaknesses, Threats and Opportunities.

Yes, I see your point.

I wonder, how urgent does IPv4 runout have to be for the urgency to be a 
major risk?

(Short version: if you haven't started IPv6 already, you will not be 
able to add new users by mid-2020).

Using http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/index.html I think we will reach 
Exhaustion Phase 2 in 6-8 months. Let's say July 2019. That means that 
everyone who has received IPv4 addresses since this past July has 
received their last Phase 1 allocation.

Under current policy as I understand it, starting next July, networks 
will only get up to a /22 per application (or less, if a /23 or /24 will 
last them 8 months). If they use that /22, they can get another, and 
another, but whoever does the IP management work will be busy submitting 
applications.

The Phase 2 policy might slow down consumption a little bit. Say the 
last /11 will run out a year later, in June 2020.

As I see it, every wireline ISP in Africa that is not already using IPv6 
will turn on their last new customer in 18 months. It is too late to 
avoid this: it will take at least two years to adopt IPv6. The only 
options they will have left are CGN or buying addresses; those will add 
conservatively US$10-40 cost per user.

Mobile networks may be able to last a few months longer, depending on 
their rate of growth and the ratio of users to IPv4 addresses.

The network with a two-year plan will be the only network left in two years.

Please, convince me I'm wrong.

Lee


>
> Regards
> -----------------------------------------------
> Noureddine IDBOUFKER
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/idboufkernoureddine/
>
>
> Le jeudi 6 d?cembre 2018 ? 15:51:06 UTC+1, Lee Howard 
> <lee.howard at retevia.net> a ?crit :
>
>
>
> On 12/6/18 5:22 AM, Noureddine IDBOUFKER via AfrIPv6-Discuss wrote:
> I think that Top management is not enough *aware *of business 
> opportunities behind IPv6 migration.
> Sure IPv6 will give them the opportunity to address a high number of 
> objects, equipements, services,....? but it is not limited to that. 
> Top management has to encourage their people to be express their 
> innovation capabilities in a such a way to contribute to the 
> developpement of Value Added Services.
> Providers who will not propose new competitive service catalogue will 
> simply die in globalized world. Top management has to know hat IPv6 is 
> a real pillar of IT governance.
>
> I agree with that. I have several presentations on business reasons 
> for IPv6, which I imagine overlap with AFRINIC's IPv6 for Executives 
> training:
>
>   * Not running out of addresses, so you can keep adding customers
>   * Faster [1]
>   * Because it's faster, Google page rank is higher; more customers
>     see your web site
>   * Because it's faster, users spend more time on the page; more ad
>     revenue
>   * IPv6 is on by default; may present security risks if not secured
>   * Use addresses to identify services; easier policy routing, ACLs,
>     security, troubleshooting, etc.
>   * New diagnostic tools PDM [rfc8250] and maybe M-PDM
>     [draft-fear-ippm-mpdm]
>   * Simpler container networking [2]
>   * Segment Routing with IPv6: no MPLS/LDP/RSVP-TE/NSH, it's all just
>     IP. [3]
>
> The last few are cutting-edge developments that are not widely 
> available yet, but are examples of innovations enabled by IPv6. I 
> didn't even list "It's not NAT" because you're likely to use some kind 
> of address sharing to reach legacy IPv4 sites, but that need declines 
> as others deploy, and it may be cheaper than NAT44.
>
> IPv6 is cool.
>
> Lee
>
> [1] https://stats.labs.apnic.net/v6perf/XB
>
> [2] *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF50OxZ5u4o*
>
> *[3] ***https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUN68P6UAn0**
>
> **
>
>> Regards
>> -----------------------------------------------
>> Noureddine IDBOUFKER
>>
>>
>> Le jeudi 6 d?cembre 2018 ? 10:57:24 UTC+1, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via 
>> AfrIPv6-Discuss <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net> 
>> <mailto:afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net> a ?crit :
>>
>>
>> Operators are informed, if you speak about ?engineers?, the problem 
>> is to inform the CEOs of operator AND the CEOs of important companies 
>> in each country (financial sectors, companies that export or have 
>> relevant web sites, etc.).
>>
>> I recall ARIN did sent a letter to them (in their region) a few years 
>> ago.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jordi
>>
>> *De: *Pascal ANDRIANISA <pascal at irenala.edu.mg> 
>> <mailto:pascal at irenala.edu.mg>
>> *Responder a: *IPv6 in Africa Discussions 
>> <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net> <mailto:afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
>> *Fecha: *jueves, 6 de diciembre de 2018, 10:47
>> *Para: *IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net> 
>> <mailto:afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
>> *Asunto: *Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop 
>> people moving to IPv6
>>
>> Dear All, I think there is also another solution which is to inform 
>> the operators in each country of the situation because if only the 
>> members who will apply IPv6 it will not be possible to use it 
>> optimally. I do not know if a provision to that effect has already 
>> been taken but I think that all the members are aware of the 
>> situation. Best regard,
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>> *De: *"Mukom Akong T." <mukom.tamon at gmail.com> 
>> <mailto:mukom.tamon at gmail.com> *?: *"IPv6 in Africa" 
>> <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net> <mailto:afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net> 
>> *Envoy?: *Jeudi 6 D?cembre 2018 06:41:29 *Objet: *Re: 
>> [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Finding solutions to things that stop people moving 
>> to IPv6
>> > > Consumers are unaware of IPv6, so it's not part of their buying 
>> decision. If something doesn't make consumer buy boxes, vendors don't 
>> do it. I do not think consumer education about IP is a good idea. 
>> Neither do I. Consumers don't DIRECTLY care about IP (whether v4 or 
>> v6). But they do care about other features that may be only possible 
>> (or easier, or cheaper) with v6. This is one place where I see the 
>> role of governments. In the interest of national development, just 
>> ban importation and sale of legacy equipment. Similar to what is 
>> already done with type approval in telecommunications today. > ISPs 
>> buying cheap boxes and not paying anything for support, so they can't 
>> get upgrades. > Foreign ISPs dumping volumes of used CPE, which get 
>> resold at deep discounts. I've been screaming about this for years. 
>> Even worse, some of it is going to be "sold" as "next generation 
>> Internet aid or technical corporation") which further cripples IPv6 
>> deployment. > > Something that has worked for some companies is an 
>> "ISP Certified" sticker. CPE vendors could apply to an ISP, and pay 
>> the costs of testing. If the tests complied with the ISP's 
>> requirements, which might include MAP, lw4o6, or 464xlat support, the 
>> vendor is allowed to put a sticker on their box saying, "This device 
>> certified for use with $ISP." There might be a business opportunity 
>> for someone who can set up a really good CPE testing lab, so ISPs 
>> could outsource their testing and certification. In addition, I 
>> believe that with two days of training (regulators and customs) and 
>> the appropriate infrastructure and a PROCESS, we can help a 
>> government implement type approval for IPv6. Any regulator that 
>> wishes to do this should reach out and join the waiting list by 
>> taking the Government IPv6 Readiness Self Assessment at ENGLISH ? 
>> https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=en FRENCH ? 
>> https://vox.afrinic.net/465923?lang=fr > For years I have been an 
>> IPv6 advocate ? and I still am ? and I?ve actively deployed and run 
>> IPv6 in production supplying it to the end user, with multiple 
>> percentage point changes in country IPv6 penetration statistics as a 
>> result, but I am fast realizing that if we want IPv6 to grow and 
>> thrive ? it?s time we started being a little more open and honest 
>> about the challenges and problems with it ? instead of sprouting off 
>> that everyone should just move to it. ? Let?s acknowledge that IPv6 
>> is critical, we have no option, but it is also deeply flawed, has 
>> major problems, and until start dealing with those ? we will see 
>> deployment continue to stutter I agree with the above. The solution 
>> is not just another open "discussion" where people who have not even 
>> started any kind of deployment, or even have a fair idea of what 
>> percentage of equipment might or might not be v6 ready go on an on 
>> about problems they've only heard about. > > Should we have a round 
>> table discussion at AIS? How can we identify and make progress on 
>> resolving issues with IPv6? > Perhaps we can start with a mailing 
>> list thread of SPECIFIC issues people have encountered while 
>> attempting a deployment on this mailing list, then build up to a 
>> webinar or discussion at AIS. There are probably about 400million 
>> users using IPv6 today and growing, someone somewhere has solved 
>> those problems. > The common theme in my answers above is that more 
>> people running IPv6 provides more weight in solving problems. If 
>> everyone would take a couple of hours to do three things, we'd have a 
>> very broad base of common experience to draw from: > > 1. Write an 
>> address plan. Don't worry if it takes several revisions, that's 
>> normal. > > 2. Apply to Afrinic for IPv6 addresses. > > 3. Announce 
>> the IPv6 addresses and route them on your backbone. These are things 
>> that we've helped operators implement in 1 day at our deployathons 
>> (or 6 two hour sessions during helpdesk calls). It's surprising how 
>> many operators need help with their address planning. Which is why 
>> not only do we teach them how to determine how much space they get, 
>> but also how to implement them in an IPAM.? For those interested, a 
>> video of a highly attended and rated AFRINIC webinar can be found at 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFIVQ_Z9je8&t=542s Step by step 
>> walk-through of address planning best practices and implementation in 
>> an IPAM ---- no maths! > > AFRINIC's training and IPv6 Helpdesk are 
>> great resources. The premise behind the helpdesk is this: We can find 
>> ONE operator a month that's committed to deploying IPv6, we keep 
>> providing targeted training and coaching to move them from one 
>> deployment milestone to another until we get stuck with incompatible 
>> equipment or internal collaboration issues. All it takes is about 4 
>> hours investment per week. If you are interested, make a request at 
>> bit.ly/6deployEN <http://bit.ly/6deployEN>? ?(english) 
>> bit.ly/6deployFR <http://bit.ly/6deployFR>? ? (french) As we do this, 
>> we're also building an tremendous amount of intel on what actually 
>> HOLDS IPv6 deployment back from real operators attempting to deploy 
>> it and so far with over 45 tickets, the evidence indicates that 
>> incompatible equipment is not in the top 5.
>> We're also realising that that argument from big operators about 
>> "customers aren't asking for it" is not true. We know of large 
>> operators that within 2 months have received explicitly written 
>> requests to enable IPv6 from large corporate customers. You don't 
>> want to see their response :(
>> If you want to host one of our DEPLOYATHON sessions in your country
>> - 5% teaching, 95% DOing
>> -?using our Prototype?? Validate ? Develop?? Deploy framework
>> - enables you hit a measurable deployment milestone within 8 hours
>> you can apply at: https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=en?(or 
>> https://vox.afrinic.net/189828?lang=fr in french)
>> And for those who are still wondering how ready or not their 
>> organisations are, take our free Organisational IPv6 Readiness 
>> Assessment at https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=en? (or 
>> https://vox.afrinic.net/651525?lang=fr in French)
>> The results might provide pointers where to start the process.
>> Until next time ..... be EXCELLENT -- Mukom Akong T. LinkedIn:Mukom 
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From zied.bouziri at gmail.com  Mon Dec 17 14:54:49 2018
From: zied.bouziri at gmail.com (Zied BOUZIRI)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 15:54:49 +0100
Subject: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] Afrinic 29 slides
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Hi
Can you please share with us links to Afrinic-29   workshops slides and
presentation slides
Thank you

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