[AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 adoption per country

Sat Jan 16 10:30:56 UTC 2016

Hi Stephen,Positive step. How do we include those concerned but not on this list? 

Stanley 

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  1. Re: IPv6 adoption per country (Stephen Honlue)
  2. Re: IPv6 adoption per country (Willy Ted MANGA)
  3. Re: IPv6 adoption per country
      (Latif LADID [*The New Internet based on IPv6"])

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 22:07:27 +0400
From: Stephen Honlue <stephen.honlue at afrinic.net>
To: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 adoption per country
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Thanks to you all for your valuable inputs.
@Latif, I suggest we create a Google doc so that we can contribute openly then the example of those who deployed it already will be stated in that doc and their experiences share if they agreed.
If you are all ok then share here your Google accounts so that you ca be invited to contribute.

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 19:22:04 +0100
From: Willy Ted MANGA <willy.manga at auf.org>
To: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 adoption per country
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Le 15/01/2016 19:07, Stephen Honlue a ?crit :
> Thanks to you all for your valuable inputs. @Latif, I suggest we 
> create a Google doc [...]

I'd prefer something like a pad (piratepad.net, framapad.org, ... )
that you can share with those wo are interested ;)

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 20:57:14 +0100
From: "Latif LADID [*The New Internet based on IPv6\"]"
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To: "'IPv6 in Africa Discussions'" <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 adoption per country
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I?ll join.

From: Stephen Honlue [mailto:stephen.honlue at afrinic.net] 
Sent: Freitag, 15. Januar 2016 19:07
To: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 adoption per country

Thanks to you all for your valuable inputs.
@Latif, I suggest we create a Google doc so that we can contribute openly then the example of those who deployed it already will be stated in that doc and their experiences share if they agreed.
If you are all ok then share here your Google accounts so that you ca be invited to contribute.

Sent from my Sony Xperia? smartphone

---- Latif LADID [*The New Internet based on IPv6"] wrote ----

This is a very crucial discussion and never late to have.

It would be good to write a couple of best practice deployment real African cases to show how other have done it. A couple of very good wasted examples that come to mind:

-          The Free university of South Africa is the ultimate and fantastic showcase deployed by Andrew Alston

-          The cross country ISP where Andrew works  

The Afrinic board members should take the initiative to collect these showcases that are done by fellow African experts Africa.

I will provide you then with EU and Asian examples. Deal :)

Cheers

Latif

From: Mwendwa Kivuva [mailto:Kivuva at transworldafrica.com] 
Sent: Freitag, 15. Januar 2016 17:06
To: IPv6 in Africa <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net <mailto:afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net> >
Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 adoption per country

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> 1. NAT and his twin PAT

How does NAT hinder v6 growth? I thought NAT has hindered exhaustion of v4, but not uptake of v6.

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> 2. Legacy Telecom equipment run software which doesnt support  IPv6 and/or its costly to upgrade
>

This is a very rare occurrence,  but it's true. While upgrading the vast University of Nairobi network to v6, I encountered about 8 routers out of about 50 that were not v6 ready and the IOS could not be upgraded. There were so many software instances that needed updating but that was not an emergency since we were dual stacking

> 3. No business case after all 1. above is working so well and money has not stopped flowing in.
>
Very true.
ICT admins and CIOs have let us down. There was a good campaign by AFRINIC on IPv6 for managers. Is there any monitoring and evaluation from AFRINIC to enable the community know how effective the training was? For

> 4. Some just dont have the budget for revamp after all the old kit is still kicking as long as no one touches it.
>

You will be surprised, transition is very cheap. If you have the manpower, you are ready to roll.

> 5. Those with the most recent code are just plain lazy that when they deploy IPv4 , they don't remember to also do the same for IPv6.
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This are post implementation challenges. And they are good because we need to take one thing at a time.

> 6. The end users careless about the network and care more about the services they consume. No pressure from them at all towards the ISP. Afterall, WhatsApp, Facebook, Netflix is all working fine....

If I was an end user, honestly I would also not care. End user is only concerned when it's broken. 

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