<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I TOTALLY AGREE two different situations as remote participation was done for specific purpose. Refusing someone a VISA is the authority vested to the consular officer the same apples if you get you visa and you on you plane and at destination you give a different answer from what was given at interview they are also equally authorized to deport you as well.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">They have vested powers that we can’t fight, you fight they can stop your years. We need to be cognizant and not diverge and these consular officers are always looking out for.<br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 25, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" class="">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Kris<div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Can the African team involved with ICANN do something about it? YES I believe they should.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Can AfriNIC equally support in away? YES they should.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">I dont understand why anyone would be denied a VISA to attend meeting in which they have been invited.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Should local host team take this seriously? YES they should otherwise what is the point of the invitation.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Remote participation is for folks who dont plan on attending physically and should not be imposed on those who want to attend physically. </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">So the remote participation suggestion is out of context with what is being raised here.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Noah</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 25 Oct 2019, 14:36 Kris Seeburn, <<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com" class="">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space" class="">Noah <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It is part of your job to ensure the things are sorted as well, I know it is a big one to play around with but you deserve some help to get yourself rolling from the beginning. , you are key for Africa presence anywhere , so, I think you could think about it.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">To all I am not stating that NOAH will do it, but, giving him food for though, those who are going to b present to perhaps have a little talk and decided how RIRs can also help with ICANN participation without making the RIR the travel agent. Food for thought :) have a good meeting<br class=""><div class="">
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<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 25, 2019, at 3:18 PM, Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class=""><br class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 25 Oct 2019, 12:47 Dr Eberhard W Lisse, <<a href="mailto:el@lisse.na" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">el@lisse.na</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">By remote participation, perhaps?<br class=""></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Physical participation is equally effective.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div></div>
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