<html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)">
<style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Consolas;
panose-1:2 11 6 9 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
pre
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"HTML Preformatted Char";
margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";}
p.msonormal0, li.msonormal0, div.msonormal0
{mso-style-name:msonormal;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0cm;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0cm;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
span.HTMLPreformattedChar
{mso-style-name:"HTML Preformatted Char";
mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"HTML Preformatted";}
span.EmailStyle21
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
color:windowtext;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-size:10.0pt;}
@page WordSection1
{size:612.0pt 792.0pt;
margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
--></style>
</head>
<body lang="EN-IE" link="blue" vlink="purple">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">A couple of thoughts on this ..
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The amount of data published is reduced – yes, but depending on how things pan out over the next 12 months plus with changes to all the underlying policies that could change or the way
access is granted to 3<sup>rd</sup> parties could change.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><br>
I wouldn’t be urging people to opt for whois privacy, but I’d also be cautious about saying simply that it’s not needed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Also getting the provider to put their details into any of the fields is a form of whois privacy and makes them partially liable for the domain’s usage. We wouldn’t do that for free
and I suspect a lot of others wouldn’t either.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Michele<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Mr Michele Neylon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Blacknight Solutions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Hosting, Colocation & Domains<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">https://www.blacknight.com/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">https://blacknight.blog/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Personal blog: https://michele.blog/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">-------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Mark Elkins <mje@posix.co.za><br>
<b>Organisation: </b>Posix Systems<br>
<b>Reply to: </b>Mark Elkins <mje@posix.co.za>, "africann@afrinic.net" <africann@afrinic.net><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday 30 March 2019 at 09:00<br>
<b>To: </b>"africann@afrinic.net" <africann@afrinic.net>, Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"hello@alex.africa" <hello@alex.africa><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fwd: [AfriSIG-Alumni] New ICANN WHOIS Privacy/GDPR guidelines and .Africa<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<p>I don't think you need WHOIS privacy protection for dotAfrica domain. Why? - look at the output of a whois for my own posix.africa..<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I've removed Redacted and some other noise lines.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Domain Name: posix.africa<br>
Registry Domain ID: DOM_9E6-AFRICA<br>
Registrar WHOIS Server: <a href="http://gateway-whois.dns.net.za/">http://gateway-whois.dns.net.za/</a><br>
Registrar URL: <a href="https://dns.business">https://dns.business</a><br>
Updated Date: 2018-08-20T21:17:42Z<br>
Creation Date: 2017-12-12T11:21:19Z<br>
Registry Expiry Date: 2019-12-12T11:21:19Z<br>
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2019-12-12T11:21:19Z<br>
Registrar: DNS Africa<br>
Registrar IANA ID: 2287<br>
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: <a href="mailto:abuse@dns.business">abuse@dns.business</a><br>
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +27.115682800<br>
Reseller:<br>
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited <a href="https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited">
https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited</a><br>
Domain Status: ok <a href="https://icann.org/epp#ok">https://icann.org/epp#ok</a><br>
Registrant Organization: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd<br>
Registrant State/Province: Gauteng<br>
Registrant Country: ZA<br>
Name Server: control.vweb.co.za<br>
Name Server: secdns1.posix.co.za<br>
Name Server: secdns2.posix.co.za<br>
DNSSEC: signedDelegation<br>
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2019-03-30T08:36:27Z <<<<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>What is displayed is Nameservers, the Registrant Organisation and location of the organisation. If that's too much for you - then ask your Registrar or reseller to put in their information for those fields. As long as its your name and e-mail address as
Registrant - the domain is under your control.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>What I see for alex.africa is:-<br>
Registrant Organization: N A<br>
Registrant State/Province: South Africa<br>
Registrant Country: ZA<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>... and even there I have a feeling alex.africa is not in South Africa?<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 2019/03/29 16:06, Arsène Tungali wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Alex, <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On this list, i am sure people will be willing to help answer your question.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">@all: please do help out here especially folks from .africa.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Arsene<o:p></o:p></p>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">
<p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
Begin forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b>From:</b> Alex Comninos <<a href="mailto:hello@alex.africa">hello@alex.africa</a>><br>
<b>Date:</b> 29 March 2019 at 15:16:07 CAT<br>
<b>To:</b> AfriSIG-Alumni <<a href="mailto:afrisig-alumni@lists.apc.org">afrisig-alumni@lists.apc.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> <b>[AfriSIG-Alumni] New ICANN WHOIS Privacy/GDPR guidelines and .Africa</b><br>
<b>Reply-To:</b> African School on Internet Governance Alumni list <<a href="mailto:afrisig-alumni@lists.apc.org">afrisig-alumni@lists.apc.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Dear All, <br>
<br>
I was curious about how ICANN’s new privacy/GDPR guidelines are filtering down to .Africa?<br>
<br>
I am renewing domains (.Africas), and decided I don’t want to or need to buy WHOIS privacy protection.<br>
<br>
Am I safe in this assumption?<br>
<br>
Are there any ICANN wonks who can advise?<br>
<br>
I am referring to the following specs:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/advisory-statement-gtld-registration-data-specs-17may18-en.pdf">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/advisory-statement-gtld-registration-data-specs-17may18-en.pdf</a><br>
<a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-registration-data-specs-en">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-registration-data-specs-en</a><br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Alex<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
You are receiving this email because you are subscribed to AfriSIG-Alumni mailing list<br>
Additional information and options can be found at <a href="https://lists.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/afrisig-alumni">
https://lists.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/afrisig-alumni</a><br>
If you want to unsubscribe, send an email to <a href="mailto:afrisig-alumni-unsubscribe@lists.apc.org">
afrisig-alumni-unsubscribe@lists.apc.org</a><br>
If you want more information about how we protect your privacy, please refer to our privacy policy(<a href="https://www.apc.org/en/privacy-policy">https://www.apc.org/en/privacy-policy</a>) or write to
<a href="mailto:privacy@apc.org">privacy@apc.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>AfrICANN mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net">AfrICANN@afrinic.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/africann">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/africann</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Mark James ELKINS - Posix Systems - (South) Africa<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za">mje@posix.co.za</a> Tel: +27.128070590 Cell: +27.826010496<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>For fast, reliable, low cost Internet in ZA: <a href="https://ftth.posix.co.za">https://ftth.posix.co.za</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
</div>
</body>
</html>