<div dir="ltr">I think both ends may hold water, it's subject to debate. I have just come across the following article on that which may be a good read regarding the subject; <div><a href="http://whois.icann.org/en/primer">http://whois.icann.org/en/primer</a><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank">michele@blacknight.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>I’d have to disagree with you on all points:</div>
<div>1 – IP rights – if there’s a process in place for lodging disputes that’s what should be used</div>
<div>2 – domain usage – this is highly subjective and most of the emails I see about this are just annoyances and harassment</div>
<div>3 – technical issues are usually better addressed with the hosting provider </div>
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<div>E-commerce – please show me a country in the world that has actual legislation covering whois data and e-commerce</div>
<div>I doubt you will be able to… </div>
<div>Website content ie. Contact details etc., is covered in several jurisdictions</div><span class="">
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Zimbabwe Holds its First DNS Workshop, Could this be a Step towards Better DNS Management?<br>
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<div>Where consultants register domains on behalf of a client, it can be a good reference to check if the domain was registered in my name.</div>
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<div>Also with regard to e-commerce, hiding your WHOIS data will raise a lot of questions.</div>
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<div>Ok, but why do you need the whois data?</div>
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<div>I’d agree that it shouldn’t be via email anyway – that makes zero sense</div>
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</span><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday 2 December 2015 at 12:38 p.m.<br>
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<div>I do agree with you that a public WHOIS has issues due to privacy conflicts. However in the Zimbabwean scenario for one to get the WHOIS details you need to email the Registries requesting the details. In this case anyone can get the WHOIS details. Since
anyone can get the WHOIS details it may be much better if we can have a public WHOIS database with the option for protecting the WHOIS details if you do do need them to be public. This option can be much better since you can choose to keep your details private
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<div>Now the issue comes when you have to wait a day or two even more to get a response to your WHOIS request. Having it online will ensure getting the WHOIS details instantly making the experience much better.</div>
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<div>Interesting post.</div>
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<div>However I’m a bit confused by one of your points:</div>
<div>“An online public and accurate WHOIS database”</div>
<div>Public whois is problematic in many jurisdictions due to privacy conflicts</div>
<div>Also I don’t see how public whois is linked to “success” or “growth”</div>
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Here is my post as a follow up to our recently held DNS Entrepreneurship Workshop in Zimbabwe, which is part of the ICANN's initiative to improve the DNS Industry in Africa.<br>
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<a href="http://www.techzim.co.zw/2015/12/zimbabwe-holds-its-first-dns-workshop-could-this-be-a-step-towards-better-dns-management/" target="_blank">http://www.techzim.co.zw/2015/12/zimbabwe-holds-its-first-dns-workshop-could-this-be-a-step-towards-better-dns-management/</a><br>
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