<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body ><div>Fellows,</div><div><br></div><div>It is good to read this discussion taking place prior the "meeting" or "pub crawl in Ireland"... Bravo!</div><div><br></div><div>Maybe, for such meetings to be effective, they should have taken place muchearlier, then feed the Deliberations (Statement) to ICANN Systems through Africa Represention at the Board or its Constituents...? </div><div><br></div><div>Maybe meet at Dublin to produce the Statement for the next ICANN mtg? Otherwise, it will be business as usual. ..</div><div>Just a suggestion / thought:-)</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards</div><div>Yassin.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:9px;color:#575757">Sent from Samsung Mobile</div></div><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.NA> <br>Date:17/09/2015 17:15 (GMT+02:00) <br>To: africann@afrinic.net <br>Cc: directors@omadhina.net <br>Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] [AFRI-Discuss] Call for a theme for the
Joint AFRALO/AfrICANN Meeting at ICANN 54 Dublin <br><br>As you know I doubt that you think much.<br><br>Using a number of email contributions from (mainly unaffected)<br>parties as a rationale is plain nonsense and confirms my doubts to<br>certainty, never mind that 2 out of a 100 shows exactly the<br>opposite.<br><br>I agree with you that this does concern this region. But, I did<br>not say that. I said it does not affect the ECONOMY (of this region).<br><br>Internet penetration has NOTHING to do with ICANN/IANA in particular<br>not the transition.<br><br>I also think if you underwent a reform it could affect how we use<br>the the tool called Internet. Or global warming, or aliens landing<br>in Ile-Ife. Could affect the Internet. Or not.<br><br>I am just trying to be efficient here. Since nobody in the ICANN<br>community gives a dead rat's fuzzy behind about what is shared (ie<br>these AFRALO resolutions), and they do indeed achieve nothing, we<br>should just go to the pub.<br><br><br>el<br><br><br>On 2015-09-17 16:41, Seun Ojedeji wrote:<br>> I don't think it's accurate to say this does not concern this<br>> region otherwise we will not have seen over 100+ contributions to<br>> ccwg on accountability with just 2 of the contributions from<br>> Africa! The fact that 98+ of the contributions came from other<br>> continents should at least be of concern and raise our curiosity<br>> on why other regions are taking this seriously.<br>> <br>> Maybe I should state 2 reasons why a developing region like Africa<br>> could be affected by ICANN accountability/IANA transition.<br>> <br>> - Internet penetration is increasing in the region, being part of<br>> it by using is not enough. Participating in determining how it<br>> should serve the region/world should be important to us as well.<br>> <br>> - ICANN as the global coordinator of the internet identifiers (the<br>> IANA operator) is undergoing a reform that could affect how we use<br>> the tool called internet<br>> <br>> So if we recognise this as an issue, the solution you refer will<br>> then (as usual) be collectively developed on the list and shared<br>> to the ICANN community (which is beyond AFRALO/Africann).<br>> <br>> Regards<br>> Sent from my Asus Zenfone2<br>> Kindly excuse brevity and typos.<br>> <br>> On 17 Sep 2015 14:46, "Dr Eberhard W Lisse" <el@lisse.na<br>> <mailto:el@lisse.na>> wrote:<br>> <br>> I really do not have any idea how the IANA Transition and/or ICANN<br>> Accountability could in any, even marginal, way affect any<br>> developing economy.<br>> <br>> There might be a case for the effect, if any, on ccTLD Managers in<br>> developing countries, but then this would be a ccNSO issue, and in<br>> any case not even addressed by the CCWG/CWG/ICG work.<br>> <br>> Why don't you draft a solution, we agree to it on the list, saving<br>> the proposer the embarrassment of having to actually read it aloud,<br>> do with it whatever it is you guys do with these resolutions, and go<br>> to the pub instead on Wednesday afternoon.<br>> <br>> el<br>[...]<br>-- <br>Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse \ / Obstetrician & Gynaecologist (Saar)<br>el@lisse.NA / * | Telephone: +264 81 124 6733 (cell)<br>PO Box 8421 \ /<br>Bachbrecht, Namibia ;____/<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>AfrICANN mailing list<br>AfrICANN@afrinic.net<br>https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/africann<br></body>