<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body ><div>Hello CAFEC colleague et al</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for this..</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;I still haven't seen a proposal on how to hold Sub-Regional discussions under the African Strategy by ICANN*</div><div><br></div><div>However..It is encouraging to read that you agreed with my broad suggestions.</div><div><br></div><div>I do differ with the suggestion that we involve Regional Bodies such ad the AUC at this stage since it is beyond their mandate....you could do this at Country level as part of the implenentation of National ICT Policy (if there is any?)</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards</div><div><br></div><div>Yassin Mshana</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:9px;color:#575757">Sent from Samsung Mobile</div></div><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: CAFEC <cafec3m@yahoo.fr> <br>Date:12/12/2014  09:18  (GMT+02:00) <br>To: AfrICANN list <africann@afrinic.net>,Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> <br>Cc: afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <br>Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Re: [AFRI-Discuss] CALL FOR A THEME FOR THE        JOINT AFRALO/AfrICANN MEETING AT ICANN 52 SINGAPORE <br><br><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_13056" dir="ltr"><span style="" id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span style="" class="">hello,</span><br style="" class=""> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_13031" style="" class=""></span></span><span style="" id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_13031" style="" class=""><span style="" id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span style="" class="">I</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_13049" style="" class="">move that the committee</span> <span style="" class="">is in place</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18116" style="" class="">and provides</span> <span style="" class="">the theme</span> <span style="" class="">for thought</span> <span style="" class="">to</span> <span style="" class="">who will</span> <span style="" class="">be</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_13050" style="" class="">the joint meeting</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_13051" style="" class="">AFRALO</span> <span style="" class="">/</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_13052" style="" class="">AfrICANN</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_13053" style="" class="">in Singapore.</span></span></span><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_12991" style="" class=""></span></span><br><span style="" id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_12991" style="" class=""></span><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_13055" style="" class="">This will also</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_13062" style="" class="">facilitate the preparation of</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_12815" style="" class="">African</span> Declaration .<span style="" class=""></span><br style="" class=""> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18144" style="" class=""><br></span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18145" dir="ltr"><span style="" id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18144" style="" class="">The challenges</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18146" style="" class="">are many and</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18147" style="" class="">we</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_12814" style="" class="">must</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_12807" style="" class="">objectively</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_13057" style="" class="">define</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_13054" style="" class="">the theme.</span><br style="" class=""> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18143" style="" class="">Furthermore,</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_12628" style="" class="">for the</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_13061" style="" class="">case</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18117" style="" class="">of Africa</span><span style="" class="">, we must</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_12806" style="" class="">remember to include</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18142" style="" class="">regional organizations.</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_13060" style="" class="">Like</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_13059" style="" class="">europe</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_12805" style="" class="">when the European Union</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_13001" style="" class="">and the Council</span> <span style="" class="">of Europe</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_12629" style="" class="">who actively participate in</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_13058" style="" class="">these</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_12804" style="" class="">discussions.</span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18140" dir="ltr"><br><span style="" id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span style="" class="">It is necessary that</span> <span style="" class="">all stakeholders</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18141" style="" class="">in African countries</span> <span style="" class="">are concerned</span> <span style="" class="">and</span> <span style="" class="">give</span> <span style="" class="">their views</span><span style="" class="">.</span> <span style="" class="">This process</span> <span style="" class="">can only be</span> <span style="" class="">possible if</span> <span style="" class="">these organizations</span> <span style="" class="">with the African Union</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18170" style="" class="">are involved.</span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18155" dir="ltr"><span style="" id="result_box" class="" lang="en"> <span style="" class="">We do not have</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18118" style="" class="">to reinvent the wheel</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18119" style="" class="">but we must</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18120" style="" class="">seize</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_12803" style="" class="">every opportunity</span><span style="" class="">.</span><br style="" class=""> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18162" style="" class="">We all</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18157" style="" class="">call for the</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18156" style="" class="">multi-</span><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_12630" style="" class="">stakeholder</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_12639" style="" class="">approach</span><span style="" class="">, but</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_12640" style="" class="">then we have to</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_12641" style="" class="">be</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_12637" style="" class="">realistic and pragmatic</span><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_12638" style="" class="">.</span><br style="" class=""> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18163" style="" class=""><br></span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18165" dir="ltr"><span style="" id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18163" style="" class="">I propose</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_12636" style="" class="">that this discussion on</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_12631" style="" class="">IANA transition s</span><span style="" class="">hould</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18164" style="" class="">figure more prominently</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18166" style="" class="">in the</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18167" style="" class="">IGF</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_12632" style="" class="">programs</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_12633" style="" class="">at national,</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18168" style="" class="">regional</span> <span style="" class="">and continental levels.</span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18597" dir="ltr"><br><span style="" id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18613" style="" class="">An African conference on</span> IANA <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18600" style="" class="">Transition</span><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18607" style="" class=""></span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18598" style="" class="">organized by the African</span> <span style="" class="">Union</span> <span style="" class="">can be</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18614" style="" class="">considered</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18599" style="" class="">in&nbsp;</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18612" style="" class="">2015</span><span style="" class="">.</span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_12635"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18642">&nbsp;</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_19088" dir="ltr"><span style="" id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span style="" class="">These are suggestions</span> <span style="" class="">of</span> <span style="" class="">Team</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_19087" style="" class="">CAFEC during our General Assembly.</span></span></div><div dir="ltr"><br><span style="" id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_19087" style="" class=""></span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_19089" dir="ltr"><span style="" id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_19087" style="" class="">Baudouin<br></span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18624"><br></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18154" class="signature"><strong id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418366991398_18169">&nbsp;<br>COORDINATION NATIONALE CAFEC<br>&nbsp;</strong>ICANN/AFRALO Member<br>ISOC Member<br>courriel:cafec3m@yahoo.fr <br>téléphone: +243 998983491/+243813684512</div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> Le Vendredi 12 décembre 2014 7h42, ymshana2003 &lt;ymshana2003@gmail.com&gt; a écrit :<br> </font> </div>  <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv3406921062"><div><div>Dear colkeagues abd friends,</div><div><br></div><div>It is good to read about what our Continent aspires to do and has done in these processes.</div><div>May I suggest that we follow some developments in the USA regarding current situation? The deadline of Sept 2015 might be a dream since it deoends on what the USGovt decides to do.</div><div>In that case, it is suggestible that we look at tangible things sych as the intensifying the effort being made to further develop Internet-based ecinomic activities....there is more to be done in that area while contributing in the current 'politics of the Internet' which are US based. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Just a thought on this...</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards</div><div>Yassin Mshana</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:9px;color:#575757;">Sent from Samsung Mobile</div></div><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Mwendwa Kivuva  <br>Date:11/12/2014  19:06  (GMT+02:00) <br>To: Barrack Otieno ,AfrICANN list  <br>Cc: afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <br>Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Re: [AFRI-Discuss] CALL FOR A THEME FOR THE
  JOINT AFRALO/AfrICANN MEETING AT ICANN 52 SINGAPORE <br><br>Thanks Barrack,<br><br>The trending thing in the next two ICANN meetings will still be the<br>IANA transition. Maybe we can have a theme centered around the role of<br>Africa in the process. Currently, three communities (names, numbers,<br>and protocol parameters) are working hard to ensure we meet the NTIA's<br>deadline. How has the continent contributed on the same?<br><br>Regards<br>______________________<br>Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya<br><br>"There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk<br>on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson<br><br><br><br>On 11 December 2014 at 16:55, Barrack Otieno &lt;otieno.barrack@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; Dear all,<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; As has been the case in previous ICANN meetings, AFRALO will be holding<br>&gt; a joint AFRALO/AfrICANN meeting to discuss issues or subjects of interest<br>&gt; to our region at the scheduled ICANN 52 meeting in Singapore, which takes<br>&gt; place from 8-12 February 2015<br>&gt;<br>&gt; The purpose of this message therefore is to request you to&nbsp; suggest a<br>&gt; theme that is appropriate for the meeting. We are also looking forward<br>&gt; for presentation of a "joint statement" to the attention of ICANN at<br>&gt; the end of this meeting.&nbsp; We would appreciate your proposal being sent<br>&gt; as soon as possible (before 20 December 2014). Please note that beyond<br>&gt;&nbsp; period,&nbsp; If we do not receive any proposal; the Leadership ofAFRALO<br>&gt; will constitute a drafting committee that will decide the theme and<br>&gt; propose to the Community a draft statement to ICANN. This statement<br>&gt; will be discussed at the meeting in Singapore.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp; The subject chosen should be relevant to the interest of two organizations:<br>&gt;&nbsp; AfrICANN and AFRALO.<br>&gt;&nbsp; It should be noted that the interest of this tradition, which we organize<br>&gt;&nbsp; together since the Brussels meeting , is to express the point of view<br>&gt; of the African<br>&gt;&nbsp; ICANN community on current issues that are of interest to the ICANN community.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Best Regards<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Francais ci dessous<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Bonjour à tous,<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp; Comme cela a été le cas lors des réunions de l'ICANN précédentes,<br>&gt; AFRALO tiendra&nbsp; une réunion conjointe AFRALO / AfrICANN pour discuter<br>&gt; des questions ou des sujets d'intérêt&nbsp; pour notre région à la réunion<br>&gt; 52 de l'ICANN prévue à Singapour, qui aura lieu du 8 au 12 Février<br>&gt; 2015.<br>&gt; Le but de ce message est donc de vous demander de suggérer un&nbsp; thème<br>&gt; approprié pour la réunion. Nous souhaitons également préparer une<br>&gt; "déclaration commune" à l'attention d'ICANN à la fin de cette réunion.<br>&gt; Nous apprécierions votre proposition que vous pouvez transmettre sur<br>&gt; la liste avant le 20 Décembre 2014. S'il vous plaît noter que si au<br>&gt; delà de ce délai, nous ne recevons aucune proposition; La direction<br>&gt; d'AFRALO constituera un comité de rédaction qui choisira un thème et<br>&gt; proposera à la Communauté un projet de déclaration à l'ICANN. Cette<br>&gt; déclaration sera discutée lors de la réunion à Singapour.<br>&gt;&nbsp; Le thème choisi devrait être pertinent pour l'intérêt des deux<br>&gt; organisations: AfrICANN et AFRALO.&nbsp; Il convient de rappeler que<br>&gt; l'intérêt de cette tradition, que nous organisons&nbsp; ensemble depuis la<br>&gt; réunion de Bruxelles, est d'exprimer le point de vue de l'Afrique<br>&gt; Communauté de l'ICANN sur les questions actuelles qui sont d'intérêt<br>&gt; pour la communauté de l'ICANN.<br>&gt;&nbsp; Cordialement<br>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; AFRI-Discuss mailing list<br>&gt; AFRI-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org<br>&gt; https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this list are more accurate: http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#anexo1<br>_______________________________________________<br>AfrICANN mailing list<br>AfrICANN@afrinic.net<br>https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann<br></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>AfrICANN mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net" href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net">AfrICANN@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann</a><br><br><br></div>  </div> </div>  </div> </div></body>