<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Someone on an African list who doesn't know those regional organizations and their work should leave the discussion and go to other lists.<br><br><div>Arsene Tungali,</div><div>Rudi International</div><div><a href="http://www.rudiinternational.org">www.rudiinternational.org</a></div><div><a href="http://www.mabingwa-forum.com">www.mabingwa-forum.com</a></div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)</div><div><br>On 18 nov. 2014, at 17:15, CAFEC <<a href="mailto:cafec3m@yahoo.fr">cafec3m@yahoo.fr</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yiv8705724500"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1416321230365_68708"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1416321230365_68707" style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div class="yiv8705724500" id="yiv8705724500yui_3_16_0_1_1415267645271_8" style=""><br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none"><span class="yiv8705724500" id="yiv8705724500result_box" style="" lang="en"><span class="yiv8705724500" style="">Hello</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">Dr,</span><br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none"> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1416321230365_68706" class="yiv8705724500" style="">You certainly have</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">more expertise than</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">me and</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">found</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">a sense</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">of</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">common terms</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">used.</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">Apologies if</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">my</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">contribution</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">has</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">inconsistencies.</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">Could</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">you</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">correct this</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">inconsistency</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">with</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">intelligible</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">formulations.</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">I may</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">be</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">naive</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">but I just</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">expressed</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">a concern.</span><br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none"> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">The transition from</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1416321230365_68710" class="yiv8705724500" style="">IANA</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">should not</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">be regarded as</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">an exclusive</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">problem to be</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1416321230365_68712" class="yiv8705724500" style="">discussed in a</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">closed</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">vessel</span><span class="yiv8705724500" style="">.</span><br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">
<span class="yiv8705724500" style="">ECOWAS (</span><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1416321230365_68714" class="yiv8705724500" style=""><a href="http://www.ecowas.int/index5.php?lang=fr">http://www.ecowas.int/index5.php?lang=fr</a></span><span class="yiv8705724500" style="">)</span><span class="yiv8705724500" style="">, ECCAS</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">(</span><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1416321230365_68716" class="yiv8705724500" style=""><a href="http://www.ceeac-eccas.org/index.php/fr/?option=com_content&view=article&id=">http://www.ceeac-eccas.org/index.php/fr/?option=com_content&view=article&id=</a></span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">2 &</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">Itemid</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">= 2)</span><span class="yiv8705724500" style="">, COMESA</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">(</span><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1416321230365_68718" class="yiv8705724500" style=""><a href="http://www.comesa.int/">http://www.comesa.int/</a></span><span class="yiv8705724500" style="">)</span><span class="yiv8705724500" style="">, SADC</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">(</span><span class="yiv8705724500" style=""><a href="http://www.sadc.int/">http://www.sadc.int/</a></span><span class="yiv8705724500" style="">) are regional</span> <span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1416321230365_68720" class="yiv8705724500" style="">organizations in which</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">almost all</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">african countries</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">are found</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">as</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">members according to their</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">geographical area</span><span class="yiv8705724500" style="">.</span><br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none"> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">The debate on</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">the transition from</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">IANA</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">concerned</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">states and</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">actors in</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">those states that</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">are</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">incurred.</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">Most</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">of these states</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">are members of the</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">GAC</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">or may become</span><span class="yiv8705724500" style="">.</span><br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none"> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">The involvement of</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">regional organizations</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">is a
proposed</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">community</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">actors</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">in the DRC</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">during the plenary</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">ICANN</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">51</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">given the</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">delicacy</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">of the subject</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">in relation to the</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">future management of the</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">IANA.</span><br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none"> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">Your question</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">leaves me</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">perpelxe</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">when</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">we cry</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">every day</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">multiple</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">stakeholder</span> <span class="yiv8705724500" style="">approach</span><span class="yiv8705724500" style="">.</span></span></div><div class="yiv8705724500" id="yiv8705724500yui_3_16_0_1_1415267645271_10" style=""> B</div><div class="yiv8705724500" id="yiv8705724500yui_3_16_0_1_1415267645271_32" style=""><b class="yiv8705724500" style=""> <br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">COORDINATION NATIONALE CAFEC<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none"> </b>ICANN/AFRALO Member<br class="yiv8705724500" id="yiv8705724500yui_3_16_0_1_1415267645271_15" style="" clear="none">ISOC Member<br class="yiv8705724500" id="yiv8705724500yui_3_16_0_1_1415267645271_18" style="" clear="none">courriel:cafec3m@<a href="http://yahoo.fr">yahoo.fr</a> <br class="yiv8705724500" id="yiv8705724500yui_3_16_0_1_1415267645271_21" style="" clear="none">téléphone: +243 998983491/+243813684512 </div><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yiv8705724500yqt6171308724" id="yiv8705724500yqt73682"><div class="yiv8705724500yahoo_quoted" id="yiv8705724500yui_3_16_0_1_1415267645271_24" style="display: block;"> <div class="yiv8705724500" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div class="yiv8705724500" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div class="yiv8705724500" dir="ltr" style=""> <font class="yiv8705724500" style="" face="Arial" size="2"> Le
Jeudi 6 novembre 2014 10h25, Dr Eberhard Lisse <<a href="mailto:el@lisse.NA">el@lisse.NA</a>> a écrit :<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none"> </font> </div> <br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none"><br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none"> <div class="yiv8705724500" style="">When I read<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none"><br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">African players<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">African reality<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">africa debate<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">burden<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">context<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">debate<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">identify<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">illuminate the shadows<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">multistakeholders approach<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">plenary<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">resources<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">situation of insecurity<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none"><br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">I thought of <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8705724500" style="" target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzzword_bingo">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzzword_bingo</a><br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none"><br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">but then I have no idea what ECOWAS, ECCAS, COMESA and/or SADC might<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">have to do with the IANA transition.<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none"><br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">greetings, el<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none"><div class="yiv8705724500" id="yiv8705724500yqtfd60183" style=""><br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">On 2014-11-06 11:04, Baudouin Schombe wrote:<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">> Janvier actually, I fully share your view. We have the daily<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">> burden as recurrent and with the situation of insecurity. AfriNIC<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">> I think can help us to identify 2 or 3 resources person in the<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">> field to lead the africa debate level and
possibly illuminate the<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">> shadows. In this context, knowing the African reality, I proposed<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">> at the ICANN 51 plenary in Los Angeles that this debate be opened<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">> further involving ECOWAS, ECCAS, COMESA and SADC for all African<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">> players participate in this debate in respect of multistakeholders<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">> approach. This is an extremely important debate and we need<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">> africa gives his opinion on it. Again, Janvier, thank you for<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">> your contribution.<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">> <br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">_______________________________________________<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none">AfrICANN mailing list<br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8705724500" style="" ymailto="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net">AfrICANN@afrinic.net</a><br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8705724500" style="" target="_blank" href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann</a><br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none"></div><br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none"><br class="yiv8705724500" style="" clear="none"></div> </div> </div> </div></div> </div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>AfrICANN mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net">AfrICANN@afrinic.net</a></span><br><span><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>