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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#44546A'>Mwendwa,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#44546A'>It is too easy to simulate the cost than going in the field and try to obtain a real insurance certificate…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#44546A'>If you think, It is not an issue, that’s fine for you. In Cameroon and in many developing countries; It is an issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#44546A'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#44546A'>Victor. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> africann-bounces@afrinic.net [mailto:africann-bounces@afrinic.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mwendwa Kivuva<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 29, 2014 12:57 AM<br><b>To:</b> AfrICANN list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest, Vol 91, Issue 38<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>A commercial General Liability insurance cover of $500,000 will cost around $350/year.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>______________________<br>Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya<br><a href="http://twitter.com/lordmwesh" target="_blank">twitter.com/lordmwesh</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#292F33'>"There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 29 September 2014 01:39, Nii Narku Quaynor <<a href="mailto:quaynor@ghana.com" target="_blank">quaynor@ghana.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Yes<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Sep 28, 2014, at 19:40, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <<a href="mailto:el@lisse.na" target="_blank">el@lisse.na</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The issue of interaction between Registrars and Registers is the same for old and new Registrars.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>el<br><br>Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Sep 28, 2014, at 21:01, Nii Narku Quaynor <<a href="mailto:quaynor@ghana.com" target="_blank">quaynor@ghana.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Just providing additional information <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Sep 28, 2014, at 17:37, "Victor Ndonnang" <<a href="mailto:ndonnang@nvconsulting.biz" target="_blank">ndonnang@nvconsulting.biz</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#44546A'>Dear Remmy,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#44546A'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#44546A'>I 100% agree with on the fact that more awareness, communication and marketing activities are needed…But the insurance and financial requirements of the ICANN RAA is not an “non-existing” excuse for developing countries/African companies willing to become accredited registrars.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>The insurance and financial requirement are relevant for registrars but there may be additional issues<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>- how new registrar will manage account information, authorizations and profile with 1000+ gtld registries. Can you visit 1000 websites and make updates as needed?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- how registrar to pay money to 1000+ registries (requires prepayment). Can you deposit $1000 in each of 1000 gtld registries ie put deposit of $1,000,000.00 most of which may not use?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- how to epp connect to 1000+ registries. Can you establish these technical setup a one by one for 1000+ registries<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- ot/e testing for over 1000+ registries. Can you physically perform the testing with over 1000+ registries <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>etc. as in the paper at ICANN website on the subject. These are new challenges for new registrars in developing countries in addition to competing with numerous resellers ;)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#44546A'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#44546A'>Tell me how many serious companies in Africa can easily obtain “commercial general liability insurance” of $500,000? Zero! Most of the 7 active African accredited registrars became accredited through an US or European based satellite or partner (…I’m not saying that partnership is not good)….How many serious companies in Africa can easily demonstrate the ability to procure liquid working capital of $70,000? Just to do a domain name business… Very few. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The Ghana Dot Com registrar insurance is from Ghana and it's not from a USA partner. It is good business practice to have insurance; the business may impact customers. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The business also honestly needs more capital than $70,000.00 to succeed<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bon weekend<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Nii<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>AfrICANN mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net" target="_blank">AfrICANN@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>AfrICANN mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net" target="_blank">AfrICANN@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>AfrICANN mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net">AfrICANN@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>