<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Barrack,<br><br>Its early and cold here in Namibia. :-)<br><br></div>Let's see what the rest of Africa thinks once they finish breakfast or their Saturday morning shopping. <br><br></div>But this is an important issue that will affect us here in Africa. <br>
<br></div>Ben<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Barrack Otieno <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" target="_blank">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Many thanks Dr. Fuller,<br>
<br>
I have looked at the text and there is a lot of sense in so far as<br>
the issues raised by the stakeholders are concerned, they are well<br>
thought out and articulated, i was just looking at it from another<br>
perspective.<br>
<br>
Thank you for the quick turnaround.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
On 8/30/14, Ben Fuller <<a href="mailto:abutiben@gmail.com">abutiben@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Barrack,<br>
><br>
> Perhaps, but we should seriously consider joining all the other<br>
> communities. Scroll down to the bottom of the article where the full text<br>
> of the joint letter sent to ICANN is posted. We should focus on that text.<br>
><br>
> Ben<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Barrack Otieno <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi Dr Fuller,<br>
>><br>
>> You raise a very pertinent issue while i am in agreement with you, i<br>
>> also think we have to be wary of decisions that will over engineer<br>
>> decision making processes within ICANN since this could result in some<br>
>> analysis paralysis sort of scenario, what is your take?<br>
>><br>
>> Just a thought.<br>
>><br>
>> On 8/30/14, Ben Fuller <<a href="mailto:abutiben@gmail.com">abutiben@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > All,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Aziz has come up with a good idea. It is also timely. Please follow the<br>
>> > link below and you'll see that we are in a critical time for<br>
>> > transparency<br>
>> > and accountability. I suggest that we draft something in line with the<br>
>> > letter sent by all the other ICANN communities.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I will be willing to be part of the drafting team.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Best,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Ben<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> <a href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/20140828_icann_community_issues_letter_questioning_icann_accountability/" target="_blank">http://www.circleid.com/posts/20140828_icann_community_issues_letter_questioning_icann_accountability/</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > 2014-08-24 21:37 GMT+01:00 Aziz Hilali <<a href="mailto:hilaliaziz@yahoo.fr">hilaliaziz@yahoo.fr</a>>:<br>
>> ><br>
>> >> [English]<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Dear all,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> As we have done in previous ICANN meetings, AFRALO will be holding a<br>
>> joint<br>
>> >> AFRALO/AfrICANN meeting to discuss an issue or topic of interest to<br>
>> >> our<br>
>> >> region at the scheduled ICANN 51 meeting in Los Angeles, which takes<br>
>> place<br>
>> >> from 12-16 October 2014.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I would like to propose the following topic: "IANA Transition and<br>
>> >> ICANN<br>
>> >> Accountability seen by the African Community”<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Please provide your opinion on the choice of this subject and suggest<br>
>> >> an<br>
>> >> alternative one in case you think it is more relevant.<br>
>> >> We would appreciate your proposal, comments and suggestions within a<br>
>> >> couple of weeks (before September 7, 2014). The theme must have the<br>
>> >> approval of both AfrICANN and AFRALO lists and should be relevant to<br>
>> >> the<br>
>> >> interest of two organizations: AfrICANN and AFRALO.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> This meeting will issue as usual, a "joint statement" to the attention<br>
>> of<br>
>> >> ICANN. Those who want to participate in the drafting committee are<br>
>> >> requested to express their interest. The committee will propose to the<br>
>> >> Community, a draft statement to be discussed at the joint meeting in<br>
>> >> Los<br>
>> >> Angeles.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> The AFRALO-AfrICANN joint meeting has become a tradition that we<br>
>> organize<br>
>> >> since Brussels. The objective is to express the views of the African<br>
>> ICANN<br>
>> >> community on current issues that are of interest to our community.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Best Regards<br>
>> >> Aziz Hilali<br>
>> >> AFRALO Chair<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> [French]<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Chers tous,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Comme nous l'avons fait au cours des précédentes réunions de l'ICANN,<br>
>> >> AFRALO organisera à Los Angeles la réunion conjointe AFRALO/AfrICANN<br>
>> pour<br>
>> >> débattre d’une question ou d’un sujet d'intérêt pour notre région. Je<br>
>> >> voudrais pour cela vous proposer le thème suivant : «Transition de<br>
>> l’IANA<br>
>> >> et Redevabilité de l'ICANN vues par la Communauté Africaine»<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Le but de ce courriel est de vous demander votre opinion sur le choix<br>
>> >> de<br>
>> >> ce sujet et de bien vouloir le cas échéant proposer un thème que vous<br>
>> >> pensez être plus pertinent. Prière envoyer vos remarques et<br>
>> >> propositions<br>
>> >> dans une quinzaine de jours (avant le 7 septembre 2014). Le sujet<br>
>> >> choisi<br>
>> >> devra avoir l’approbation des deux listes AfrICANN et Afralo et<br>
>> >> devrait<br>
>> >> prendre en considération l'intérêt de deux organisations: AfrICANN et<br>
>> >> AFRALO.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Cette réunion aboutira comme d’habitude à la présentation d'une<br>
>> >> “déclaration commune” à l’attention de l'ICANN. Les personnes<br>
>> >> souhaitant<br>
>> >> participer au comité de rédaction sont priées de le signaler. Ce<br>
>> >> comité<br>
>> >> proposera à la Communauté, un projet de déclaration à l'ICANN qui sera<br>
>> >> discutée à la réunion de Los Angeles.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Il est à noter que l'intérêt de cette tradition que nous organisons<br>
>> >> ensemble depuis Bruxelles, est d'exprimer le point de vue de la<br>
>> communauté<br>
>> >> africaine de l'ICANN sur les questions d'actualité et d'intérêt pour<br>
>> notre<br>
>> >> communauté.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Cordialement<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Aziz Hilali<br>
>> >> Président d’AFRALO<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> _______________________________________________<br>
>> >> AfrICANN mailing list<br>
>> >> <a href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net">AfrICANN@afrinic.net</a><br>
>> >> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann</a><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > --<br>
>> > **********************************************<br>
>> > Dr. Ben Fuller<br>
>> > <a href="mailto:abutiben@gmail.com">abutiben@gmail.com</a><br>
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>> ><br>
>> > Homepage for the region: <a href="http://www.afralo.org" target="_blank">http://www.afralo.org</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to<br>
>> > this<br>
>> > list are more accurate:<br>
>> ><br>
>> <a href="http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#anexo1" target="_blank">http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#anexo1</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Barrack O. Otieno<br>
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>> Skype: barrack.otieno<br>
>> <a href="http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/" target="_blank">http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/</a><br>
>><br>
><br>
><br>
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