<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Hello Ben, Barrack, all<br><br></div>Just to mention that there are also formal request for reconsideration that has been made by some communities within ICANN<br><br><a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/request-bc-rysg-ncsg-29aug14-en.pdf">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/request-bc-rysg-ncsg-29aug14-en.pdf</a><br>
<br></div>The question however is whether these will make any difference to a process that has already been put in action to the extent of appointing PEG members. <br><br>Nevertheless it may be good to add to the voice for all its worth<br>
<br></div>Cheers!<br><div><div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Ben Fuller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:abutiben@gmail.com" target="_blank">abutiben@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Barrack,<br>
<br>
Its early and cold here in Namibia. :-)<br>
<br>
Let's see what the rest of Africa thinks once they finish breakfast or<br>
their Saturday morning shopping.<br>
<br>
But this is an important issue that will affect us here in Africa.<br>
<br>
Ben<br>
<br>
<br>
On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Barrack Otieno <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>><br>
<div class=""><div class="h5">wrote:<br>
<br>
> Many thanks Dr. Fuller,<br>
><br>
> I have looked at the text and there is a lot of sense in so far as<br>
> the issues raised by the stakeholders are concerned, they are well<br>
> thought out and articulated, i was just looking at it from another<br>
> perspective.<br>
><br>
> Thank you for the quick turnaround.<br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
><br>
> On 8/30/14, Ben Fuller <<a href="mailto:abutiben@gmail.com">abutiben@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > Barrack,<br>
> ><br>
> > Perhaps, but we should seriously consider joining all the other<br>
> > communities. Scroll down to the bottom of the article where the full<br>
> text<br>
> > of the joint letter sent to ICANN is posted. We should focus on that<br>
> text.<br>
> ><br>
> > Ben<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Barrack Otieno <<br>
> <a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>><br>
> > wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >> Hi Dr Fuller,<br>
> >><br>
> >> You raise a very pertinent issue while i am in agreement with you, i<br>
> >> also think we have to be wary of decisions that will over engineer<br>
> >> decision making processes within ICANN since this could result in some<br>
> >> analysis paralysis sort of scenario, what is your take?<br>
> >><br>
> >> Just a thought.<br>
> >><br>
> >> On 8/30/14, Ben Fuller <<a href="mailto:abutiben@gmail.com">abutiben@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> > All,<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Aziz has come up with a good idea. It is also timely. Please follow<br>
> the<br>
> >> > link below and you'll see that we are in a critical time for<br>
> >> > transparency<br>
> >> > and accountability. I suggest that we draft something in line with the<br>
> >> > letter sent by all the other ICANN communities.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > I will be willing to be part of the drafting team.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Best,<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Ben<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >><br>
> <a href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/20140828_icann_community_issues_letter_questioning_icann_accountability/" target="_blank">http://www.circleid.com/posts/20140828_icann_community_issues_letter_questioning_icann_accountability/</a><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > 2014-08-24 21:37 GMT+01:00 Aziz Hilali <<a href="mailto:hilaliaziz@yahoo.fr">hilaliaziz@yahoo.fr</a>>:<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> >> [English]<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Dear all,<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> As we have done in previous ICANN meetings, AFRALO will be holding a<br>
> >> joint<br>
> >> >> AFRALO/AfrICANN meeting to discuss an issue or topic of interest to<br>
> >> >> our<br>
> >> >> region at the scheduled ICANN 51 meeting in Los Angeles, which takes<br>
> >> place<br>
> >> >> from 12-16 October 2014.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> I would like to propose the following topic: "IANA Transition and<br>
> >> >> ICANN<br>
> >> >> Accountability seen by the African Community”<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Please provide your opinion on the choice of this subject and suggest<br>
> >> >> an<br>
> >> >> alternative one in case you think it is more relevant.<br>
> >> >> We would appreciate your proposal, comments and suggestions within a<br>
> >> >> couple of weeks (before September 7, 2014). The theme must have the<br>
> >> >> approval of both AfrICANN and AFRALO lists and should be relevant to<br>
> >> >> the<br>
> >> >> interest of two organizations: AfrICANN and AFRALO.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> This meeting will issue as usual, a "joint statement" to the<br>
> attention<br>
> >> of<br>
> >> >> ICANN. Those who want to participate in the drafting committee are<br>
> >> >> requested to express their interest. The committee will propose to<br>
> the<br>
> >> >> Community, a draft statement to be discussed at the joint meeting in<br>
> >> >> Los<br>
> >> >> Angeles.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> The AFRALO-AfrICANN joint meeting has become a tradition that we<br>
> >> organize<br>
> >> >> since Brussels. The objective is to express the views of the African<br>
> >> ICANN<br>
> >> >> community on current issues that are of interest to our community.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Best Regards<br>
> >> >> Aziz Hilali<br>
> >> >> AFRALO Chair<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> [French]<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Chers tous,<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Comme nous l'avons fait au cours des précédentes réunions de l'ICANN,<br>
> >> >> AFRALO organisera à Los Angeles la réunion conjointe AFRALO/AfrICANN<br>
> >> pour<br>
> >> >> débattre d’une question ou d’un sujet d'intérêt pour notre région. Je<br>
> >> >> voudrais pour cela vous proposer le thème suivant : «Transition de<br>
> >> l’IANA<br>
> >> >> et Redevabilité de l'ICANN vues par la Communauté Africaine»<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Le but de ce courriel est de vous demander votre opinion sur le choix<br>
> >> >> de<br>
> >> >> ce sujet et de bien vouloir le cas échéant proposer un thème que vous<br>
> >> >> pensez être plus pertinent. Prière envoyer vos remarques et<br>
> >> >> propositions<br>
> >> >> dans une quinzaine de jours (avant le 7 septembre 2014). Le sujet<br>
> >> >> choisi<br>
> >> >> devra avoir l’approbation des deux listes AfrICANN et Afralo et<br>
> >> >> devrait<br>
> >> >> prendre en considération l'intérêt de deux organisations: AfrICANN et<br>
> >> >> AFRALO.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Cette réunion aboutira comme d’habitude à la présentation d'une<br>
> >> >> “déclaration commune” à l’attention de l'ICANN. Les personnes<br>
> >> >> souhaitant<br>
> >> >> participer au comité de rédaction sont priées de le signaler. Ce<br>
> >> >> comité<br>
> >> >> proposera à la Communauté, un projet de déclaration à l'ICANN qui<br>
> sera<br>
> >> >> discutée à la réunion de Los Angeles.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Il est à noter que l'intérêt de cette tradition que nous organisons<br>
> >> >> ensemble depuis Bruxelles, est d'exprimer le point de vue de la<br>
> >> communauté<br>
> >> >> africaine de l'ICANN sur les questions d'actualité et d'intérêt pour<br>
> >> notre<br>
> >> >> communauté.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Cordialement<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Aziz Hilali<br>
> >> >> Président d’AFRALO<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> _______________________________________________<br>
> >> >> AfrICANN mailing list<br>
> >> >> <a href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net">AfrICANN@afrinic.net</a><br>
> >> >> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann</a><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > --<br>
> >> > **********************************************<br>
> >> > Dr. Ben Fuller<br>
> >> > <a href="mailto:abutiben@gmail.com">abutiben@gmail.com</a><br>
> >> > <a href="mailto:ben@fuller.na">ben@fuller.na</a> <a href="http://www.fuller.na" target="_blank">http://www.fuller.na</a><br>
> >> > blog: <a href="http://www.fuller.na/" target="_blank">http://www.fuller.na/</a> skype: drbenfuller<br>
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> >> > Homepage for the region: <a href="http://www.afralo.org" target="_blank">http://www.afralo.org</a><br>
> >> ><br>
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> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> --<br>
> >> Barrack O. Otieno<br>
> >> <a href="tel:%2B254721325277" value="+254721325277">+254721325277</a><br>
> >> <a href="tel:%2B254-20-2498789" value="+254202498789">+254-20-2498789</a><br>
> >> Skype: barrack.otieno<br>
> >> <a href="http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/" target="_blank">http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/</a><br>
> >><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > **********************************************<br>
> > Dr. Ben Fuller<br>
> > <a href="mailto:abutiben@gmail.com">abutiben@gmail.com</a><br>
> > <a href="mailto:ben@fuller.na">ben@fuller.na</a> <a href="http://www.fuller.na" target="_blank">http://www.fuller.na</a><br>
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> > *****************************************<br>
> ><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Barrack O. Otieno<br>
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> Skype: barrack.otieno<br>
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><br>
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