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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">How do these rules and restrictions
apply to UN developmental organizations? Any chance of ICANN
obtaining a waiver to such restrictions since it is a non
political, not for profit (no trade) member driven developmental
organization?<br>
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On 24/02/2014 04:54 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:<br>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Seun Ojedeji<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 24, 2014 8:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> AfrICANN list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Complaint from Sudan
to ICANN<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 2:58 PM,
Michele Neylon - Blacknight <<a
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<p class="MsoNormal">It's an American entity so it
is bound by US law<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sure i know it is, what is strange
is that US law rebukes organizations with similar role
as ICANN from supporting certain region. Well i was
hoping for a reference to that.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The fact that there is or is
not an internet connection is not relevant<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Well i
believe Internet has a lot of relevance in this,
after-all we won't be talking ICANN/IANA if there
ain't internet. So the point is why should i
participate in growing ICANN (through domain purchases
for instance) and be legally bound from benefiting
from its initiatives....should there be any such
restriction in the first place? (if it indeed
existed).
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IMHO i think funding should be the major and perhaps
only thing that could make ICANN selective on which
country to support.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<br>
Mr. Michele Neylon <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Blacknight<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sent from a small shiny
object so excuse fat fingers!<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 24 Feb 2014, at 06:45, "Seun Ojedeji" <<a
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target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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at 11:04 AM, Nigel Roberts <<a
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wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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The reason I say all this is not to
criticise, is that if your recipient
(ICANN's CEO) cannot understand your
representations, he will not be able
to respond appropriately or direct the
right people accordingly as I know he
would want to.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">++1 the other thing
will also be to suggest that mails
like this (which seem to suggest
conflict of interest) be sent directly
to those concerned, as i don't think
it has gotten to the level of
posting(escalating) to a public list.<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Then again,
I am sure ICANN's by-now-vast resources
would extend to having important
missives translated, so I would suggest
re-sending this in your native language.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">PS: ICANN is an
American company. I think it also
would have difficulties (legal?) in
funding representatives from North
Korea and Cuba??<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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curious on how this works practically
and will appreciate if you could
further clarify your statement above,
are you saying ICANN is restricted by
law on countries to support? even
though internet connectivity exist in
those regions?<o:p></o:p></p>
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Ojedeji,<br>
Federal University Oye-Ekiti<br>
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Federal University Oye-Ekiti<br>
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