<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra">So in the spirit of constructive debate, Pierre, could you paint for us a model of how this alternative countrinets (Internet within a country) will operate AND help drive economic development?</div>
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<span style="font-family:'Helvetica';color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'">Pierre Lotis NANKEP <<a href="mailto:lnankep@yahoo.fr" target="_blank">lnankep@yahoo.fr</a>><br>
</span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'"><b>Re: _[AfrICANN-discuss]_Fadi_Chehadé:_If_We_Fra gment_The_Internet, _'It_Will_Not_Be_The_Interne =?utf-8?Q?t=5FAs=5FWe=5FKnow=5FIt'=5F?=</b><br>
</span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'">February 2, 2014 at 2:21:34 PM GMT+4<br>
</span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'">"<a href="mailto:jolufuye@aficta.org" target="_blank">jolufuye@aficta.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:jolufuye@aficta.org" target="_blank">jolufuye@aficta.org</a>>, AfrICANN list <<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank">africann@afrinic.net</a>><br>
</span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'">Pierre Lotis NANKEP <<a href="mailto:lnankep@yahoo.fr" target="_blank">lnankep@yahoo.fr</a>>, AfrICANN list <<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank">africann@afrinic.net</a>><br>
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<div style="font-size:18.6667px;font-family:HelveticaNeue,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal"><span lang="en"><span>NSA</span><span> </span><span>in the U.S. and</span><span> </span><span>other</span><span> </span><span>intelligence services</span><span> </span><span>or</span><span> </span><span>espionages</span><span> </span><span>(</span><span>Western countries</span><span>, Chinese, ...</span><span>)</span><span> </span><span>will eventually</span><span> </span><span>convince N</span><span>ations</span><span> </span><span>/ S</span><span>overeign</span><span> </span>State<span> </span><span>to have their own</span><span> </span><span>Internet</span><span>.</span><span> </span></span></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Actually not. If you are General Keith Alexander (guy who runs NSA), the first logical deduction you get to make (if you can't, you shouldn't even have that job) is that - the PRISM program's success depends on the having one large source of data to mine and gather intelligence from. While from the perspective of securing borders, you suggestion might make sense, from the perspective of intelligence gathering, it doesn't and the spy agencies everywhere know surely get that.</div>
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<div style="font-size:18.6667px;font-family:HelveticaNeue,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal"><span lang="en"><span>Africa</span><span> </span><span>will lose</span><span> </span><span>nothing,</span><span> </span><span>let's not be</span><span> </span><span>alarmist</span><span>, </span></span></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Why not ask the African entrepreneurs who have built global companies based upon the Internet what it would mean to them if a large part of the world could not access their service because they happen to be in an Internet block that is not friendly with theirs? Or actually go talk to the aspiring tech-entrepreneurs trying to build Internet startups (I think there's one such space in Cameroon - Activespaces based in Buea/Douala)</div>
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<span lang="en"><span>According to their</span><span> </span><span>different</span><span> </span><span>strategic interests</span><span>, Nations</span><span> </span><span>/</span><span> </span><span>Sovereign States</span><span> </span><span>will interconnect</span><span> </span><span>their Internet (</span><span>p2p,</span><span> </span><span>multilateral</span><span> </span><span>peering</span><span>, etc ...)</span></span></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>And so long as those strategic interest are driven by basic economics and the need to use the Internet as platform for economic development and education, those multilateral interconnections you speak of will ultimately end up in the open and free Internet.</div>
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<span lang="en"><span>The wars in</span><span> </span><span>Libya</span><span>, Syria</span><span>, Egypt</span><span>, Sudan</span><span>, CAR,</span><span> </span><span>...</span><span> </span><span>reinforce our</span><span> </span><span>position</span><span> </span><span>with regard to</span><span> </span><span>the</span><span> </span><span>future</span><span> </span><span>of Internet architecture</span><span>.</span><span> </span></span></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Who is 'our' here? Is this the position of the Cameroon IT regulator (ANTIC) and thus the gov't of Cameroon? That would be good to know.</div>
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<br><span>In addition</span><span>, political unrest</span><span> </span><span>manipulated by</span><span> </span><span>the major world powers</span><span> </span><span>(eg,</span><span> </span><span>Ukraine</span><span>, Thailand</span><span>, etc ...)</span><span> </span><span>are</span><span> </span><span>also</span><span>drawing our attention to</span><span> </span><span>the</span><span> </span><span>precautions for</span><span> </span><span>the benefit of</span><span> </span><span>our peoples.</span><span> </span><br>
<br><span>We must</span><span> </span><span>stop playing</span><span> </span><span>activists</span><span> </span><span>just</span><span> </span><span>to please</span><span> </span><span>our former</span><span> </span><span>colonial masters</span><span> </span><span>...</span></span></div>
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<br>">Globalization has not only the positive effects ...</span></span></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I agree 100% with you here. In fact, I'll recommend the "Globalisation and its Discontents" by Joseph Stiglitz, former World Bank chief economist and Nobel laureate. Globalisation - which is well aided by an Open Internet is a weapon - those that master how to wield it will benefit from it, those that don't will suffer but they will suffer not because of the globalisation or the Internet, but because they have failed as persons, organisations, countries or continents to build the capabilities that enable them to produce (not just dig from the ground) and sell products and services to other countries AND make money. </div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><br>Mukom Akong T.<br><br><a href="http://about.me/perfexcellence" target="_blank">http://about.me/perfexcellence</a> | twitter: @perfexcellent <br>
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