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<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 2, 2013 1:20 PM, &quot;Dr Eberhard W Lisse&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:el@lisse.na">el@lisse.na</a>&gt; wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto"><div><span></span></div><div><div>Rubbish, as usual.</div><div><br></div><div>This was posted to this very list, originally, but maybe the aftermath of the end-of year festivities tooketh away further of the little ability of the lister(s).</div>
<div><br></div><div>I am not sure, personally, that this &quot;event&quot; is going to achieve anything, other than that the usual suspects get (travel) funding. I for one can not see why for example a (Namibian) business would want to waste money and a whole week time, to listen to a re-hash by mediocre speakers (me of course excluded, if I were to make if :-)-O) of stuff that is well known and of no application in practice.</div>
<div><br></div><div>We have through this before, .NA is the first ccTLD to do DNSSec and if I am not mistaken only one other has managed themselves (.UG) the other(s) running outsourced on US infrastructure.</div><div><br>
</div><div>For example, of the five Namibian banks that could theoretically be interested, the two biggest feel that HTTPS is all they need, never mind that the biggest bank lets their certificate(s) expire every year. The other three don&#39;t correspond at all, which means they don&#39;t care or/and understand.</div>
<div><br></div><div>But, so what? It&#39;s not my problem. They run the business. They have the &quot;experts&quot;. Even if they meed 300 Indians in a bunker to fix the daily occurring problems the moving from a perfectly working system to an Indian product which is nothing but a mess (front- and back-end). </div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I feel we need to look at a real bottom up approach. Even if it is difficult to even find the managers of African ccTLDs, let alone correspond with them, or build capacity, this shotgun approach is not going to work.</div>
<div><br></div><div>We need to get the Registers fixed (automated) and this implies business skills, such as answering emails and issuing receipts. So that ccTLDs become viable. </div><div><br></div><div>One a a time...</div>
<div><br></div><div>el<br><br>Sent from Dr Lisse&#39;s iPad mini</div><div><br>On Feb 2, 2013, at 12:10, bouba &lt;<a href="mailto:djamaab@yahoo.fr" target="_blank">djamaab@yahoo.fr</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite">
<div><div style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif"><div><br><span lang="en"><span>I think</span> <span>we are here in this list to share</span> and make strategy to defend<span> the interests of</span> <span>our</span> <span>African</span> <span>Internet</span> <span>community</span><span>. </span><span>we also talk about</span> <span>transparency and</span> <span>openness.</span>B<span>ut I do</span> <span>not understand that </span><span>when someone you ask</span>
 <span>something</span> <span>as</span> <span>simple and common</span> like an <span>agenda of a</span> <span>meeting</span> <span>it becomes
 a</span> <span>problem.</span><br><span><br>I</span> <span>am not here</span> <span>to cheer</span> <span>for</span> <span>cheer</span> <span>... but when it</span> <span>is a good</span> <span>idea as</span> <span>the March workshop</span> <span>in Addis Ababa</span> <span>I clap for </span><span>this</span> <span>initiative;</span><span> and as</span> <span>the subject</span> <span>line</span> <span>goes</span> <span>right</span> <span>with</span> <span>what interests me</span><span>, I</span> <span>asked for more</span> <span>information on the workshop</span><span>. That &#39;s all. Is this a problem?</span><br>
<span><br>I say</span><span>, you
 could</span> <span>simply direct</span> <span>interested guys</span> <span>to the right link</span> that <span>can</span> help them. T<span>he announcement was</span> <span>made</span> <span>public.</span> <span>I do not understand</span> <span>that</span> <span>other practical information</span> <span>are given in</span> <span>hiding</span> <span>while</span> <span>we&#39;re talking about</span> <span>the Internet and</span> <span>all</span> <span>things about</span> <span>Africa.</span><br>
<span>Nevertheless</span> <span>we eventually</span> <span>get this program</span> <span>in private.</span><br><span><br>I am</span> <span>the Coordinator of the</span> <span>IGF</span> <span>Secretariat</span> <span>Central Africa</span> <span>for 2 years,</span> <span>I do not understand</span> concerning that <span>subject (</span><span>Internet governance)</span><span>, this part of</span> <span>Africa is</span> <span>cancel and while </span>this part <span>is interested</span> <span>and</span> <span>request</span> <span>information to</span> <span>be</span> <span>actor.</span> <span>This may</span> <span>be a mistake.</span><br>
<span><br>Mr.</span> <span>NANKEP</span><span>, Rapporteur of the</span> <span>IGF</span> <span>Secretariat</span> <span>Central Africa</span><span>, is being</span> <span>insulted</span> for nothing. He <span>led a delegation</span> <span>to</span> <span>the </span><span>IGF</span> <span>Africa</span> <span>in Cairo</span> <span>and
 was</span> <span>chosen by</span> <span>peers to represent them</span> <span>at</span> <span>AfIGF</span><span>.</span><br><span><br>We are not </span><span>seek</span> <span>fellowship</span><span></span><span>,</span> <span>we just want to</span> <span>participate</span> <span>in</span> <span>our means in organisation and participation. That&#39;s all.<br>
</span></span></div><div><br></div><div> </div><div><font>----<br>Djamaa BOUBA<br></font></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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