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Dear Dr. Lisse,<br>
You are free to support or not the event. But this event is not
useless as you presumed. <br>
African ccTLD are not the only stakeholder in the development of the
DNS industry in Africa. ccTLDs and DNSSEC deployment are not the
only topics of the Addis upcoming event.<br>
We need more ICANN Accredited registrar in Africa...and a
sustainable development of the Internet in Africa. Having a
multi-stakeholder discussion or event on all these issues is the
start to solve the problem.<br>
Let us have a constructive discussion on this list. <br>
Best regards,<br>
Victor Ndonnang.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/02/2013 13:17, Dr Eberhard W
Lisse wrote:<br>
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<div>Rubbish, as usual.</div>
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<div>This was posted to this very list, originally, but maybe
the aftermath of the end-of year festivities tooketh away
further of the little ability of the lister(s).</div>
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<div>I am not sure, personally, that this "event" is going to
achieve anything, other than that the usual suspects get
(travel) funding. I for one can not see why for example a
(Namibian) business would want to waste money and a whole week
time, to listen to a re-hash by mediocre speakers (me of
course excluded, if I were to make if :-)-O) of stuff that is
well known and of no application in practice.</div>
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<div>We have through this before, .NA is the first ccTLD to do
DNSSec and if I am not mistaken only one other has managed
themselves (.UG) the other(s) running outsourced on US
infrastructure.</div>
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<div>For example, of the five Namibian banks that could
theoretically be interested, the two biggest feel that HTTPS
is all they need, never mind that the biggest bank lets their
certificate(s) expire every year. The other three don't
correspond at all, which means they don't care or/and
understand.</div>
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<div>But, so what? It's not my problem. They run the business.
They have the "experts". Even if they meed 300 Indians in a
bunker to fix the daily occurring problems the moving from a
perfectly working system to an Indian product which is nothing
but a mess (front- and back-end). </div>
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<div>I feel we need to look at a real bottom up approach. Even
if it is difficult to even find the managers of African
ccTLDs, let alone correspond with them, or build capacity,
this shotgun approach is not going to work.</div>
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<div>We need to get the Registers fixed (automated) and this
implies business skills, such as answering emails and issuing
receipts. So that ccTLDs become viable. </div>
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<div>One a a time...</div>
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<div>el<br>
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Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini</div>
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On Feb 2, 2013, at 12:10, bouba <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:djamaab@yahoo.fr">djamaab@yahoo.fr</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<span id="yiv2140992572result_box" class="yiv2140992572"
lang="en"><span class="yiv2140992572hps">I think</span>
<span class="yiv2140992572hps">we are here in this
list to share</span> and make strategy to defend<span
class="yiv2140992572hps"> the interests of</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">our</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">African</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">Internet</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">community</span><span
class="yiv2140992572hps">. </span><span
class="yiv2140992572hps">we also talk about</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">transparency and</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">openness.</span>B<span
class="yiv2140992572hps">ut I do</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">not understand that </span><span
class="yiv2140992572hps">when someone you ask</span>
<span class="yiv2140992572hps">something</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">as</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">simple and common</span>
like an <span class="yiv2140992572hps">agenda of a</span>
<span class="yiv2140992572hps">meeting</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">it becomes a</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">problem.</span><br>
<span class="yiv2140992572hps"><br>
I</span> <span class="yiv2140992572hps">am not here</span>
<span class="yiv2140992572hps">to cheer</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">for</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">cheer</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">... but when it</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">is a good</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">idea as</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">the March workshop</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">in Addis Ababa</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">I clap for </span><span
class="yiv2140992572hps">this</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">initiative;</span><span
class="yiv2140992572hps"> and as</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">the subject</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">line</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">goes</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">right</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">with</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">what interests me</span><span>,
I</span> <span class="yiv2140992572hps">asked for
more</span> <span class="yiv2140992572hps">information
on the workshop</span><span class="yiv2140992572hps">.
That 's all. Is this a problem?</span><br>
<span class="yiv2140992572hps"><br>
I say</span><span>, you could</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">simply direct</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">interested guys</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">to the right link</span>
that <span class="yiv2140992572hps">can</span> help
them. T<span class="yiv2140992572hps">he announcement
was</span> <span class="yiv2140992572hps">made</span>
<span class="yiv2140992572hps">public.</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">I do not understand</span>
<span class="yiv2140992572hps">that</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">other practical information</span>
<span class="yiv2140992572hps">are given in</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">hiding</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">while</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">we're talking about</span>
<span class="yiv2140992572hps">the Internet and</span>
<span class="yiv2140992572hps">all</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">things about</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">Africa.</span><br>
<span class="yiv2140992572hps">Nevertheless</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">we eventually</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">get this program</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">in private.</span><br>
<span class="yiv2140992572hps"><br>
I am</span> <span class="yiv2140992572hps">the
Coordinator of the</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">IGF</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">Secretariat</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">Central Africa</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">for 2 years,</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">I do not understand</span>
concerning that <span class="yiv2140992572hps">subject
(</span><span class="yiv2140992572hps">Internet
governance)</span><span>, this part of</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">Africa is</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">cancel and while </span>this
part <span class="yiv2140992572hps">is interested</span>
<span class="yiv2140992572hps">and</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">request</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">information to</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">be</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">actor.</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">This may</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">be a mistake.</span><br>
<span class="yiv2140992572hps"><br>
Mr.</span> <span class="yiv2140992572hps">NANKEP</span><span
class="yiv2140992572">, Rapporteur of the</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">IGF</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">Secretariat</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">Central Africa</span><span>,
is being</span> <span class="yiv2140992572hps">insulted</span>
for nothing. He <span class="yiv2140992572hps">led a
delegation</span> <span class="yiv2140992572hps">to</span>
<span class="yiv2140992572hps">the </span><span
class="yiv2140992572hps">IGF</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">Africa</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">in Cairo</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">and was</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">chosen by</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">peers to represent them</span>
<span class="yiv2140992572hps">at</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">AfIGF</span><span>.</span><br>
<span class="yiv2140992572hps"><br>
We are not </span><span class="yiv2140992572hps">seek</span>
<span class="yiv2140992572hps">fellowship</span><span
class="yiv2140992572hps"></span><span>,</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">we just want to</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">participate</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">in</span> <span
class="yiv2140992572hps">our means in organisation
and participation. That's all.<br>
</span></span></div>
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<div><font size="2">----<br>
Djamaa BOUBA<br>
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