<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>So to paraphrase the below, you have no expertise, are not involved in the ICANN process and are not interested on the truth.</div><div><br></div><div>el<br><br>-- <span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "></span><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">Sent from </span>Dr. Lisse's iPhone 5</div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Dec 31, 2012, at 0:35, Pierre Lotis NANKEP <<a href="mailto:lnankep@yahoo.fr">lnankep@yahoo.fr</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto">Hello Adiel,</span></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 16px; RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto">Thanks for your valuable comments... <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="898" tc="null">Even if they arrive</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="899" tc="null">late because</span> <a href="http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/SKFJXJN"><font><span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="900" tc="null">voting</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="901" tc="null">ends in</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="902" tc="null">less than 24 hours</span></font></a><span closure_uid_kb9nv1="903" tc="null">.</span></span></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><b style="RIGHT: auto">1rst set of questions : What is the purpurse [of this <a href="http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/SKFJXJN"><font>poll</font></a>] ? Who is/is_not entitle to take the poll? How do you control that?</b> </div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">I followed with great attention the discussions on this list. And it became very clear that there are differences on identity and authenticity of members.</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">Whereas AfrICANN is a completely open list so far, I consider it appropriate to seek the views of members to justify any future proposal of the redesign of this list. Given the context of the debates that are tense, I chose a way of anonymous voting based on conscience and morality of members (ethics).</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto" class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9265" tc="null">Also,</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9266" tc="null">notice</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9267" tc="null">that a link is</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9268" tc="null">established</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9269" tc="null">with the IP address</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9270" tc="null">of the voter.</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9271" tc="null">So you understand</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9272" tc="null">that there is</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9273" tc="null">no interest</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9274" tc="null">for a member</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9275" tc="null">to vote multiple times</span> <span class="hps atn" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9276" tc="null">(</span><span style="RIGHT: auto" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9277" tc="null">with his friends,</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9278" tc="null">his dog and his</span> <span style="RIGHT: auto" class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9279" tc="null">cat).</span></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><b>1rst remark : ... not to be anonymous ...</b></div></span></div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto" class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9279" tc="null"><span style="RIGHT: auto" class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9688" tc="null">What is the policy</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9689" tc="null">implemented by</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9690" tc="null">AfriNIC</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9691" tc="null">for this to be</span> <span style="RIGHT: auto" class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9692" tc="null">so? <span style="RIGHT: auto" class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="10484" tc="null">Honestly</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="10485" tc="null">I do</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="10486" tc="null">not know</span><span closure_uid_kb9nv1="10487" tc="null">.</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="10488" tc="null">Thank you for</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="10489" tc="null">sharing</span> <span style="RIGHT: auto" class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="10490" tc="null">this policy</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="10491" tc="null">with us.</span></span></span><span style="RIGHT: auto" class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9279" tc="null"></span></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto" class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9279" tc="null"><b>2rd remark : ... to be taken only by people who have been on the list and/or active on it over the past minimum 2 years ...</b></span></div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto" class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9279" tc="null"><span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="12568" tc="null">Is</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="12569" tc="null">there</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="12570" tc="null">a</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="12571" tc="null">predefined</span> <span style="RIGHT: auto" class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="12572" tc="null">procedure</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="12573" tc="null">or</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="12574" tc="null">you just</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="12575" tc="null">make that decision</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="12576" tc="null">...</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="12577" tc="null">Or is it</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="12578" tc="null">a proposal?</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="12579" tc="null">In other words</span><span closure_uid_kb9nv1="12580" tc="null">, if I</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="12581" tc="null">understand correctly, you</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="12582" tc="null">are suggesting that</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="12583" tc="null">new members</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="12584" tc="null">take 2</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="12585" tc="null">years to observe</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="12586" tc="null">before intervening</span><span closure_uid_kb9nv1="12587" tc="null">?</span></span></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto" class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9279" tc="null"><b>3rd remark : Trying to meet the above 2 points alone will make you quickly realise that the poll by itself is inappropriate to answer the question you are asking …</b></span></div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto" class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9279" tc="null"><span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="13365" tc="null">It's possible.</span> <span style="RIGHT: auto" class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="13366" tc="null">It is your</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="13367" tc="null">opinion</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="13368" tc="null">that</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="13369" tc="null">I respect</span><span closure_uid_kb9nv1="13370" tc="null">.</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="13371" tc="null">What about the</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="13372" tc="null">26 members who</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="13373" tc="null">took the time</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="13374" tc="null">to give</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="13375" tc="null">their views</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="13376" tc="null">by voting</span><span closure_uid_kb9nv1="13377" tc="null">?</span></span></div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto" class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9279" tc="null"></span><span style="RIGHT: auto" class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9279" tc="null"></span> </div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto" class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="9279" tc="null"><b style="RIGHT: auto">4th remark : On a more general note, has it happened to any of you who are vehemently questioning the expertise of people ....</b></span></div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto"><span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14320" tc="null">I</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14321" tc="null">do not think</span> <span style="RIGHT: auto" class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14322" tc="null">this remark</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14323" tc="null">is addressed to me</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14324" tc="null">personally ...</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14325" tc="null">But</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14326" tc="null">this</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14327" tc="null">is not really</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14328" tc="null">a bad idea</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14329" tc="null">to ask</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14330" tc="null">some</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14331" tc="null">experts</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14332" tc="null">to be</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14333" tc="null">humble.</span></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><b>2nd set of question : ... ask yourself what is the genesis of this list? What was it purpose and objective?</b></div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">This is what i knew about the AfrICANN list : "This list is a common area of discussion for the Internet community in Africa, and more precisely for those involved or willing to be involved in the ICANN processes."</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto" class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14412" tc="null">I do not know</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14413" tc="null">if this has changed</span><span style="RIGHT: auto" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14414" tc="null">.</span></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14414" tc="null"><b style="RIGHT: auto">3rd question : Who came up with the idea and to achieve what?</b></span></div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14414" tc="null"><span class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14605" tc="null">I think</span> <span style="RIGHT: auto" class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14606" tc="null">the </span><span style="RIGHT: auto" class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14607" tc="null">answer is</span> <span style="RIGHT: auto" class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14608" tc="null">at :</span> <span style="RIGHT: auto" class="hps" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14609" tc="null"><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/africann/2007-March/author.html"><font>https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/africann/2007-March/author.html</font></a></span><span style="RIGHT: auto" closure_uid_kb9nv1="14610" tc="null">.</span></span></div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">I take this opportunity to congratulate the creators. However, it is not permit to a father or mother to kill or mistreat her baby. If this is the case, family members and neighbors will be forced to rescue the baby.</div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><b>5th remark : I think trying to understand that a lone would have cut 90% of this never-ending loop of the debate that is going on for a while now</b></div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">Dear Adiel, I'm not the source of endless and meaningless debates that take place on this list ... This is also why <a href="http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/SKFJXJN"><font>I suggested the vote</font></a>.</div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">Human work is never perfect. Improvement is a continuous and perpetual process.</div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">Thanks a lot for your valuable comments.</div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">--<br>Pierre Lotis NANKEP</div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><br></div></blockquote></body></html>