<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body>Doc Doc... You are very right by me in your research about NEPAD..<div><br></div><div>In that case; although you got mixed up in Public and Political Organisations in African context... I for one would have expected NEPAD to be involved in this saga... </div><div><br></div><div>I would be happy to discuss this further to find out why AUC was brought into the area where NEPAD should have been the leading Agency for Africa.</div><div><br></div><div>I would be honoured in my small way to have audience with the Authorities who are following this informal discussion to find out: 1) Why is NEPAD quiet on this economic activity; 2) what made it quiet and 3) about the African representation on matters of significant importance to Internet-based economic developments in Africa - why wasnt NEPAD made to take the Front Line at Abuja Ministerial meeting?</div><div><br></div><div>There are one or ten things to learn since time for hearsays and fence politics has rub out since I convinced that discussions in this list are misleading and full of fear of asking for authoritative answers as I have just did and I dont expect muzzling any how. I expect openness</div><div><br></div><div>Next will about the Early Warning by GAC on gTLDs...why now, and its position in ICANN processes..a bit strange to me and maybe to others..?</div><div><br></div><div>I look forward to receiving a communication from our Authorities mentioned on this when time allows them please.</div><div><br></div><div>Seasons greetings</div><div><br></div><div>Yassin for Africa</div><div><br><br><br><font size="2">From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.</font> </div><br><br><br>Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.na> wrote:<br><br><br><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">You are so full of it it is becoming ridiculous.</div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">AUC is the COMMISSION which per definition in administration, wheras the AU might be described as "political". however it is the "public authority" in this context, not because it is like the EU a formal union to which national states have yielded issues such as trade, currency, immigration and travel (would it not be nice to travel between our countires without visa?) but the African not only act as a bloc on may fora, such as the ITU, the AU has indicates it is implementing a mandate given to it by Ministers in Abuja. Whether I like it or not, and I most certainly do NOT, that makes the AU and the AUC the "relevant public authorities".</div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The <b style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; ">New Partnership for Africa's Development</b> (<b style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; ">NEPAD</b>) is an <a href="http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_development" title="Economic development" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; text-decoration: none; ">economic development</a> program of the <a href="http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Union" title="African Union" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; text-decoration: none; ">African Union</a>. (Wikipedia)</span></div><div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">el</span></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">-- <div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); ">Sent from </span>Dr. Lisse's iPhone 5</div><div><br></div></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br>On Dec 15, 2012, at 13:45, Y Mshana2003 <<a href="mailto:ymshana2003@gmail.com">ymshana2003@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><div>Correction.. The AU/AUC are Political Authorities. Please look at representation at these bodies if u wont mind.<div><br></div><div>The issue here is that...Why didnt the AUC apply to manage the .africa as it seems to be doing?</div><div><br></div><div>Another one: Yes the Guidelines said it all....but what is the role of GAC compared to that of AUC when it comes to Africa regional Internet issues? The best job is through NEPAD..can we let the AUC concentrate on its mandate which is so demanding?</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers. Yassin</div><div><br></div><div>We need to have clear lines here..<br><br><br><font size="2">From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.</font> </div><br><br><br>McTim <<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br><br>On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Y Mshana2003 <<a href="mailto:ymshana2003@gmail.com">ymshana2003@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Well done to Fadi et al for this.<br>><br>> One important task is to ensure that ICANN processes are not influenced by<br>> politics be regional or national at any level.<br>><br>> The most immediate challenge is that, in Africa Region, there seem to exist<br>> a very thin line or porous barrier between Business and Politics when it<br>> comes to the Internet. This is based on the scramble for .africa gTLD. The<br>> question is still, "why was the AUC brought in while GAC is the link between<br>> Govts and ICANN?".<br><br><br>As I think I have made clear before, it's "because the guidebook said so":<br><br>"An applied-for gTLD string that falls into any of 1 through 4 listed<br>above is considered to represent a geographic name. In the event of<br>any doubt, it is in the applicant’s interest to consult with relevant<br>governments and public authorities and enlist their support or<br>non-objection prior to submission of the application, in order to<br>preclude possible objections and pre-address any ambiguities<br>concerning the string and applicable requirements."<br><br>Clearly the AU/AUC are "public authorities", no?<br><br><br>-- <br>Cheers,<br><br>McTim<br>"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A<br>route indicates how we get there." 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