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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I guess my earlier comments that hate
      speech or foul language is not desirable (from victors,
      vanquished, victims what ever) has been vindicated. We need more
      leadership, diplomacy and magnanimity. &nbsp; Competition, reproof,
      rebuke, correction and apology can still take place in a
      respectful and non toxic manner. For a while now some participants
      on this list seem to have been out competing one another for the
      wrong prize - to inflict the hardest/painful blow.<br>
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      I would also urge members to consider the following:<br>
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      - sub judice, this is no court but&nbsp; the .africa application is
      currently under consideration by competent institutions of ICANN
      which must be respected. There should be no basis for premature
      pronouncements from any other quarters.<br>
      - there is a difference between allegation and fact<br>
      - there is a difference between opinion and fact<br>
      - COI, people who are known to be actively backing either of the
      application for .africa are obviously conflicted somewhat and it
      will be fair to assume that they are pursuing this interest more
      than any other in such deliberations. So observers will always
      take their "expert" advice with the necessary caution.<br>
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      On 10/12/2012 09:17 AM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:<br>
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      <div>Never mind that he wrote that there has been no conflict of
        interest, he also asked for further particulars which were not
        forthcoming. Of course.</div>
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      <div>But, what is much more interesting is:<br>
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        On Dec 10, 2012, at 8:40, Brian Munyao Longwe &lt;<a
          moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:blongwe@gmail.com">blongwe@gmail.com</a>&gt;
        wrote:<br>
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        <p>Interesting, very interesting...</p>
        <p>cell: +254715964281</p>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 10, 2012 9:31 AM, "Badru Ntege"
          &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>&gt;
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              <div><span><span>FYI&nbsp;</span></span></div>
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                        target="_blank">https://omblog.icann.org/?p=823</a><br>
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                    <p>An aspect of this application has been the
                      unfortunate tone of much of the debate on various
                      websites blogs and other places. During the course
                      of this investigation I discussed this with Sophia
                      Bekele (at the Toronto meeting) and suggested that
                      perhaps a less aggressive approach would be
                      appropriate. She readily agreed to this. </p>
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      So she told the Ombudsman she would behave herself, and just
      carried on, substantially misbehaving.
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                      <p>The discussion and debate continues to be
                        fairly vigorous, but I would suggest to the
                        competing parties for .africa that they should
                        pay attention to the ICANN rules about
                        respectful communication. No doubt feelings are
                        deep and passions strong. However I would urge
                        the parties to consider the ground rules for
                        such debate.</p>
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        The next which we will hear is that ICANN rules not specifically
        forbid using a sockpuppet or lying.&nbsp;</div>
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      <div><span>Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini</span></div>
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