<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>It doesn't matter what you think and the root server operators do agree.</div><div><br></div><div>el</div><div><br>--&nbsp;<span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "></span><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">Sent from </span>Dr. Lisse's iPhone 5</div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Dec 7, 2012, at 0:28, McTim &lt;<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Ben Fuller <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:abutiben@gmail.com" target="_blank">abutiben@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div dir="auto"><div>The Department of Commerce has control over the root servers, </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I think that the 12 organisations that run A-M might think about it differently, they are:</div>

<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.verisigninc.com/" style="font-family:Tinos;font-size:medium;text-align:-webkit-center">Verisign</a><span style="font-family:Tinos;font-size:medium;text-align:-webkit-center">&nbsp;·&nbsp;</span><a href="http://www.isi.edu/" style="font-family:Tinos;font-size:medium;text-align:-webkit-center">USC-ISI</a><span style="font-family:Tinos;font-size:medium;text-align:-webkit-center">&nbsp;·&nbsp;</span><a href="http://www.cogentco.com/" style="font-family:Tinos;font-size:medium;text-align:-webkit-center">Cogent</a><span style="font-family:Tinos;font-size:medium;text-align:-webkit-center">&nbsp;·&nbsp;</span><a href="http://www.umd.edu/" style="font-family:Tinos;font-size:medium;text-align:-webkit-center">UMD</a><span style="font-family:Tinos;font-size:medium;text-align:-webkit-center">&nbsp;·&nbsp;</span><a href="http://www.arc.nasa.gov/" style="font-family:Tinos;font-size:medium;text-align:-webkit-center">NASA-ARC</a><span style="font-family:Tinos;font-size:medium;text-align:-webkit-center">&nbsp;·&nbsp;</span><a href="http://www.isc.org/" style="font-family:Tinos;font-size:medium;text-align:-webkit-center">ISC</a><span style="font-family:Tinos;font-size:medium;text-align:-webkit-center">&nbsp;·&nbsp;</span><a href="http://www.nic.mil/" style="font-family:Tinos;font-size:medium;text-align:-webkit-center">DOD-NIC</a><span style="font-family:Tinos;font-size:medium;text-align:-webkit-center">&nbsp;·&nbsp;</span><a href="http://www.arl.army.mil/" style="font-family:Tinos;font-size:medium;text-align:-webkit-center">ARL</a><span style="font-family:Tinos;font-size:medium;text-align:-webkit-center">&nbsp;·&nbsp;</span><a href="http://www.autonomica.se/" style="font-family:Tinos;font-size:medium;text-align:-webkit-center">Autonomica</a><span style="font-family:Tinos;font-size:medium;text-align:-webkit-center">&nbsp;·&nbsp;</span><a href="http://www.ripe.net/" style="font-family:Tinos;font-size:medium;text-align:-webkit-center">RIPE</a><span style="font-family:Tinos;font-size:medium;text-align:-webkit-center">&nbsp;·&nbsp;</span><a href="http://www.icann.org/" style="font-family:Tinos;font-size:medium;text-align:-webkit-center">ICANN</a><span style="font-family:Tinos;font-size:medium;text-align:-webkit-center">&nbsp;·&nbsp;</span><a href="http://www.wide.ad.jp/" style="font-family:Tinos;font-size:medium;text-align:-webkit-center">WIDE</a></div>

<div><br></div><div>The DoC does not have control over them.</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>&nbsp;A to whatever. It contracts the IANA function to ICANN.</div>

</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>The DoC DOES have a no-fee contract with ICANN to run the IANA, this does not mean they can determine what is in the root.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div>

<div><br></div><div>McTim</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Dec 6, 2012, at 9:08 AM, McTim &lt;<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com" target="_blank">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>

<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Ben Fuller <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:abutiben@gmail.com" target="_blank">abutiben@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

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FYI.<div><br></div><div><a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/271153-house-approves-resolution-to-keep-internet-control-out-of-un-hands" target="_blank">http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/271153-house-approves-resolution-to-keep-internet-control-out-of-un-hands</a><br>




</div><div><br></div><div>This is the first time in a long time that the US Congress has been united on an issue. Remember, the US controls the root.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>How, exactly does it do this??</div>



</div><div><br></div>-- <br>Cheers,<br><br>McTim<br>"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there."&nbsp; Jon Postel<br>
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