<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>For knowing what I am doing and speaking the truth of course.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Haven't you figured out "Internet Governance" yet?</div><div><br></div><div>el<br><br>Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini</div><div><br>On Dec 5, 2012, at 8:39 PM, Jackson Muthili &lt;<a href="mailto:jacksonmuthi@gmail.com">jacksonmuthi@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Pierre Lotis NANKEP <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:lnankep@yahoo.fr" target="_blank">lnankep@yahoo.fr</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">"<span style="color:rgb(0,0,255)">I shall request that the list maintainer removes you from this list.</span>"<div>
<br><span></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="en"><span>I</span> <span>think you'll be</span> <span>the first to be</span> <span>removed from this list</span> <span>if we are</span> <span>serious</span> <span>and</span> <span>honest.</span></span></div>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br><br>On what grounds?<br><br><br>Jack<br><br><br>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
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Please don't forget to check my own header....<img alt=":D La banane !" src="cid:"><br><span lang="en"><span></span></span><span></span></div><br><div><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255);margin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px">
  <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> <hr size="1">  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">De&nbsp;:</span></b> Dr Eberhard W Lisse &lt;<a href="mailto:el@lisse.na" target="_blank">el@lisse.na</a>&gt;<br>
 <b><span style="font-weight:bold">À&nbsp;:</span></b> "<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank">africann@afrinic.net</a>" &lt;<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank">africann@afrinic.net</a>&gt; <br>
 <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Envoyé le :</span></b> Mardi 4 décembre 2012 21h14<br>
 <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Objet&nbsp;:</span></b> [AfrICANN-discuss] deceptive use of false online identity by Sophia Bekele (.AFRICA applicant)<br> </font> </div> <br><div><div><div><span></span></div><div><div>Sophia, Sophia, Sophia,</div>
<div><br></div><div>not only lying to the list, but also to a journalist? They don't like that...</div><div><br></div><div>You have been using this identity as early as 2010 and I haven't even start looking in detail.</div>
<div><br></div><div>This might be '<span>covered by federal</span><span>&nbsp;</span><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_fraud" title="Computer fraud" style="text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">computer fraud</a><span>&nbsp;</span><span>legislation against "accessing a computer without authorization via</span><span>&nbsp;</span><a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_commerce" title="Interstate commerce" style="text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">interstate commerce</a><span>"' (Wikpedia) in other words this is criminal, because Yahoo and Gmail are located in the US and I am sure one would find from the IP addresses you used, that at least sometimes you did this from US soil.</span></div>
<div><span><br></span></div><div><span>I have asked you a while back to come clean, but you didn't.&nbsp;</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div>I shall request that the list maintainer removes you from this list.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>el</div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><br>Sent from Dr Lisse's
 iPad mini</div><div><br>On Dec 4, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Nigel Roberts &lt;<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:nigel@channelisles.net" target="_blank">nigel@channelisles.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<div>Well,you are wrong.&nbsp;I did not initiate contact with the esteemed Kevin "Scoop" Murphy as you suggest.</div><div><br></div><div>I might have done if I cared enough, but I don't so I didn't.</div><div>
<br></div><div>But you admit now that Lerato Ma is your sock puppet?</div><div><br></div><div>Dear oh dear.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br>Sent from my iPad</div>
<div><br>On Dec 4, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Lerato &lt;<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:lerato.ma@yahoo.com" target="_blank">lerato.ma@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
<blockquote style="border:none;padding:0px"><blockquote style="border:none;padding:0px"><div style="font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-size:13px">Now, personally, I don't give a single strigine screech let alone two.</span></div>
<div style="font-size:13px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-size:13px">I tend to make judgments based on content rather than authorship.</span></div>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="border:none;padding:0px"><div style="background-color:transparent"><span style="background-color:transparent"><span><span style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif;font-size:16px">If so why did you not leave the
 issue alone&nbsp;except&nbsp;to try to blow this out of proportion, because I&nbsp;</span></span></span><span style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif">am defending DCA's position which is running for a .africa gTLD. &nbsp;</span></div>
<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif;font-size:16px">I have not seen anyone's email header being checked before. &nbsp;</span><span style="background-color:transparent;font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif;font-size:16px">I have no clue half the time who most of the people are on this list or even&nbsp;</span><span style="background-color:transparent;font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif;font-size:16px">claim</span><span style="background-color:transparent;font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif;font-size:16px">&nbsp;to know them and I do not care. &nbsp;</span><span style="background-color:transparent;font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif;font-size:16px">If the content is what should be important &nbsp;for you, &nbsp;I suggest you need to stick to that. &nbsp;</span></div>
<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif"><span style="background-color:transparent"><span>Nonetheless, here is a response I have given to Kevin Murphy of Domainincite, which am sure you have contacted to create your useless&nbsp;controversy and should satisfy your&nbsp;</span></span><span style="background-color:transparent">curiosity</span><span style="background-color:transparent">&nbsp;and for those
 concerned on this list.</span><br></div></blockquote><blockquote style="border:none;padding:0px"><blockquote style="border:none;padding:0px"><div style="font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-size:13px"><div style="background-color:transparent">
<div style="font-size:13.600000381469727px;background-color:transparent"><span style="font-weight:bold">&nbsp;Hi Kavin</span></div><div style="font-size:13.600000381469727px;background-color:transparent"><span style="font-weight:bold">Thanks for the message.</span></div>
<div style="font-size:13.600000381469727px;background-color:transparent"><span style="font-weight:bold"><span>This is not a big deal. However, th</span><span style="background-color:transparent">ey are trying to blow
 it out of proportion and create a huge&nbsp;controversy&nbsp;out of it.&nbsp;</span></span></div><div style="font-size:13.600000381469727px;background-color:transparent"><span style="font-weight:bold"><span style="background-color:transparent">Even authors write books under&nbsp;</span><span style="background-color:transparent">Pseudo</span><span style="background-color:transparent">&nbsp;name. &nbsp;</span></span></div>
<div style="font-size:13.600000381469727px;background-color:transparent"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-weight:bold"><br></span></div><div style="font-size:13.600000381469727px;background-color:transparent">
<span style="font-weight:bold"><span style="background-color:transparent">The name Sophia Bekele seem to&nbsp;</span><span style="background-color:transparent">agitation</span><span style="background-color:transparent">&nbsp;them on the list and get them in Frenzy.&nbsp;</span><span style="background-color:transparent">They have even blocked "Sophia Bekele" ID on the list &nbsp;in the past and did not allow me to</span><span style="background-color:transparent">&nbsp;post, which was only resolved by someone's intervention &nbsp;</span><span style="background-color:transparent">This is a well known fact on the list and they claimed technical problems on their side. &nbsp;</span><span style="background-color:transparent">T</span><span style="background-color:transparent">his is because they did not consider me part of their community. &nbsp;</span><span style="background-color:transparent">The open display of&nbsp;</span><span style="background-color:transparent">hatred</span><span style="background-color:transparent">, aggression and personal&nbsp;</span><span style="background-color:transparent">anonymity</span><span style="background-color:transparent">&nbsp;towards my person and DCA is&nbsp;</span><span style="background-color:transparent">compelling&nbsp;me to post under Lerato Ma. &nbsp;</span></span></div>
<div style="font-size:13.600000381469727px;background-color:transparent"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-weight:bold"><span style="background-color:transparent"><br></span></span></div><div style="font-size:13.600000381469727px;background-color:transparent">
<span style="background-color:transparent;font-weight:bold"><span style="background-color:transparent">There is nothing to hide, it is just&nbsp;</span><span style="background-color:transparent">to protect myself from all that&nbsp;</span><span style="background-color:transparent">aggression.&nbsp;</span><span style="background-color:transparent">It is not an&nbsp;</span><span style="background-color:transparent">important</span></span><span style="background-color:transparent"><span style="font-weight:bold">&nbsp;issues for
 us</span>.</span></div></div></span></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="border:none;padding:0px"><div style="font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span style="background-color:transparent"><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13.600000381469727px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
<span style="background-color:transparent">&nbsp;--:Lerato Ma</span><br></div></span></div></blockquote><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><blockquote style="border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(16,16,255);padding-left:5px">
  <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"> <div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> <hr size="1">  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Nigel Roberts
 &lt;<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:nigel@channelisles.net" target="_blank">nigel@channelisles.net</a>&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank">africann@afrinic.net</a> <br>
 <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, December 4, 2012 5:51 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The Google campaign – An ITU view<br> </font> </div> <br>

Dear "Lerato"<br><br>I'm puzzled again.<br><br>There's been a suggestion by Brian that seems to me to imply that you are a pseudonym for Sophia Beleke.&nbsp; I don't see where you've answered Brian's question in that regard.<br>
<br>Now, personally, I don't give a single strigine screech let alone two.<br>I tend to make judgments based on content rather than authorship.<br><br>But on an ICANN-related list its only common courtesy and surely in line with the Expected Standards of Behaviour to know for sure who one is corresponding with.<br>
<br>So a direct question for you, if I may?. Could you please post a brief biography for my benefit, please?<br><br><br><br><br>Nigel Roberts<br>Director, CI Domain Registry Ltd<br>(TLD technical and administrative services)<br>
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