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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">As an outsider (albeit one with
interests in tthe African internet/DNS space) I must confess to
being puzzled still.<br>
<br>
If, for the sake of argument, I make the (increasingly unlikely)
assumption that Ms Ma, and Mrs Beleke are NOT one<br>
and the same (despite the apparent evidence to the contrary), then
perhaps "Lerato" could answer me a question.<br>
<br>
Exactly what position do you hold in the American CBS
(broadcasting?) company that we found earlier seems to somehow
behind DCA? <br>
<br>
And can you introduce me to Jerry Springer?<br>
<br>
<br>
On 02/12/2012 20:49, Lerato wrote:<br>
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<div>Vika</div>
<div><span>Please read well before making comments- "Unp</span><span>roudly</span><span> South
African" was a commentary by one of your own customers not
me.</span></div>
<div><span><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/224513-.co.za-Uniforum-down">http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/224513-.co.za-Uniforum-down</a></span></div>
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</span></div>
<div>Keep your intrigue going, according to Doc, Sophia is also
Kenyan and some many other countries..</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span> --Lerato Ma</span><br>
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<hr> <b><span>From:</span></b> Vika Mpisane <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:vika@zadna.org.za"><vika@zadna.org.za></a><br>
<b><span>To:</span></b> <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>
<br>
<b><span>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, December 2, 2012
12:36 PM<br>
<b><span>Subject:</span></b> Re: [AfrICANN-discuss]
.africa who is who?<br>
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<div>Well, Brian, Eberhard has regularly pointed
out that this "Lerato Ma" is in fact Sophia
Bekele – much to the vehement denial of this
"Lerato Ma". I like the fact that this "Lerato
Ma" claims to be "unproudly South African".
What I like most from the info you provided
below is the last 2 lines that read:</div>
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<div>And it seemed Eberhard was wrong when he
constantly pointed out this "Lerato Ma"
(who's very unproudly South African - if she
ever were South African in the first place)
is, in fact, Sophia Bekele. Now reading the
header info below and finding the name
"Sophia Bekele" leaves me with intrigue: why
is Sophia Bekele (assuming the header info
is not lying) hiding behind pseudonyms? Let
alone the fake "South Africanness"?</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div><span
class="yiv1857421034Apple-style-span"><br>
</span></div>
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<div><b>Vika Mpisane</b> | Tel: +27 11 314
0077</div>
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<div><span>From: </span> Brian Munyao Longwe <<a
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href="mailto:blongwe@gmail.com">blongwe@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<span>Date: </span> Sunday 02 December 2012
9:43 PM<br>
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href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>><br>
<span>Subject: </span> [AfrICANN-discuss]
.africa who is who?<br>
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It is interesting to note that all these messages
purporting to be from someone called "Lerato Ma"
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<div class="yiv1857421034gmail_quote">On Sun,
Dec 2, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Nii Narku Quaynor <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
href="mailto:quaynor@ghana.com">quaynor@ghana.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="yiv1857421034gmail_quote">
<div>
<div>Great as the guidebook works fine. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>You shared a link on how well you are
winning and you got feedback which
showed an unfavorable score card for DCA</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Will <span>DCA now stop disturbing
the list about its application since
we agree on the guidebook process</span></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1857421034h5">
<div><br>
On Dec 2, 2012, at 17:03, Lerato
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
href="mailto:lerato.ma@yahoo.com">lerato.ma@yahoo.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div>
<div><span><span>I am sure DCA
can defend </span><span>itself</span><span> from
any of the below </span></span><span><span><span>rummers, </span></span></span><span>insinuations,
what you say counts or does
not, which is already in the
public domain. </span><span><span><span>But
if </span></span></span><span>you
think that DCA has all this
staked up against it, and
your bid is stronger, why
ask DCA to withdraw, just
let the system run its
course right?</span></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-- Lerato Ma.</div>
<div>
<blockquote>
<div>
<div>
<div dir="ltr">
<hr> <b><span>From:</span></b>
Nii Narku Quaynor <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
href="mailto:quaynor@ghana.com">quaynor@ghana.com</a>><br>
<b><span>To:</span></b>
Lerato <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
target="_blank"
href="mailto:lerato.ma@yahoo.com">lerato.ma@yahoo.com</a>>;
"<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
target="_blank"
href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>"
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
target="_blank"
href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>>
<br>
<b><span>Sent:</span></b>
Saturday, December 1,
2012 12:30 PM<br>
<b><span>Subject:</span></b>
Re: [AfrICANN-discuss]
.africa the saga
continues<br>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div>
<div>Well for the
onlooker it seems
you did not
understand the
guidebook. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Yet you think
you are winning.
So far,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>- you have had
to do a string
substitution</div>
<div>- you have
received several
objections</div>
<div>- have not
shown the 60%
countries
supporting your
application</div>
<div>- AUC rejected
endorsement of DCA</div>
<div>- UNECA is UN
and not Africa
thus does not
count</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Frankly,
indications are
not looking good.
Rumor has it that
some letters DCA
wrote seeking
endorsement
claimed you were
ICANN board
members? </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Some have even
questioned the
authenticity of
the AUC letter you
claimed to have in
the press</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Talking of
ethics please get
ready as all these
will play out
publicly...<br>
<br>
If I were you I'll
follow Badru's
advise and eat
humble pie</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
On Dec 1, 2012, at
19:31, Lerato <<a
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href="mailto:lerato.ma@yahoo.com">lerato.ma@yahoo.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote
type="cite">
<div>
<div>
<div><span><span>From
your point of
view, DCA
always has a
$185k
misunderstanding
of reading
the </span><span>guidebook</span><span>,
but keeps
winning!</span></span></div>
<div><span><span><a
moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
href="http://www.itwebafrica.com/internet/334-africa/229830-the-185000-dotafrica-internet-domain-name-misunderstanding?">http://www.itwebafrica.com/internet/334-africa/229830-the-185000-dotafrica-internet-domain-name-misunderstanding?</a></span><br>
</span></div>
<div><span><span><br>
</span></span></div>
<div><span>
--Lerato Ma</span></div>
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<div>
<div dir="ltr">
<hr> <b><span>From:</span></b>
Nii Narku
Quaynor <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
href="mailto:quaynor@ghana.com">quaynor@ghana.com</a>><br>
<b><span>To:</span></b>
Lerato <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
href="mailto:lerato.ma@yahoo.com">lerato.ma@yahoo.com</a>>;
"<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
target="_blank" href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>"
<<a
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rel="nofollow"
target="_blank" href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>>
<br>
<b><span>Sent:</span></b>
Saturday,
December 1,
2012 10:26 AM<br>
<b><span>Subject:</span></b>
Re:
[AfrICANN-discuss]
.africa the
saga continues<br>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div>
<div>What am
telling you is
that you did
not read the
guidebook (400
pages too big
for you) and
therefore made
grave mistakes
and may have
lost $185K :(<br>
<br>
On Dec 1,
2012, at
14:24, Lerato
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
target="_blank" href="mailto:lerato.ma@yahoo.com">lerato.ma@yahoo.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
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<blockquote
type="cite">
<div>
<div>
<div><span>Doc, </span></div>
<div><span>what
Nii is telling
you is
pollution and
ethics are
outside the
scope of the </span><span>guidebook</span><span><span>,
</span></span><span>the
book once </span><span>refereed</span><span><span> to
in this list
as </span><span>the</span><span> Bible
of New gTLDs.</span></span></div>
<div><span>Perhaps
if </span><span>guidebook</span><span> was
really a
Bible, meaning
DCA would not
have "failed
to get
government
support".</span></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
--Lerato Ma</div>
<div>
<blockquote>
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<div>
<div dir="ltr">
<hr> <b><span>From:</span></b>
Nii Narku
Quaynor <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
href="mailto:quaynor@ghana.com">quaynor@ghana.com</a>><br>
<b><span>To:</span></b>
"<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
target="_blank" href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>"
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
target="_blank" href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>>
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<b><span>Sent:</span></b>
Saturday,
December 1,
2012 6:05 AM<br>
<b><span>Subject:</span></b>
Re:
[AfrICANN-discuss]
.africa the
saga continues<br>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div>
<div>Please
follow the
applicant
guidebook
process...<br>
<br>
On Dec 1,
2012, at
11:19, Y
Mshana2003
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<div> Hello
there...
<div>It seems
that the
discussion is
becoming
similar to
what football
fans do -
arguing and
castigating
other teams.
Unfortunately
Africa is one
team with
players who
are playing
with the aim
to each win a
Goal for
themselves.</div>
<div>This
.africa issue
shows all of
that...</div>
<div>Can we be
more
professional
and open
please? DCA
is not a
personal
undertaking
nor do the
ccTLD for .za.</div>
<div>Let us
wait for the
outcome of the
process at
ICANN although
ICANN process
may have been
polluted ??<br>
<div><br>
<br>
From Yassin .
Sent from
samsung
mobile. On O2.
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Dr Eberhard W
Lisse <<a
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<br>
Point is, they
are not.<br>
<br>
Capable.<br>
<br>
Of anything.
Other than
whining.<br>
<br>
<br>
And, I stated
at the
AFRALO-Africann
meeting in
Prague that it<br>
doesn't matter
whether there
are only 17
applications
(and not 170<br>
or 1700) but
that we need
to make a
success out of
them.<br>
<br>
The Uniforum
bid is
indigenous,
with their own
software,
which is<br>
tried and
tested, run on
their own
infrastructure,
which as tried<br>
and tested and
thus has a
cost
advantage...<br>
<br>
And as you and
I have no
personal
interest in
the matter, I
myself<br>
even think,
the bid is as
necessary as a
goiter, it is
of course<br>
incumbent upon
the
entertaining
Ms
Bekelelelele
to accuse.
Which<br>
she in her
many
incarnations
does to
everyone not
agreeing with
her.<br>
Especially
whenveracity
is difficult
to realign to
reality.<br>
<br>
el<br>
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On 2012-12-01
10:23 , Nii
Narku Quaynor
wrote:<br>
> On Dec 1,
2012, at 6:24,
Badru Ntege
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>> If I
were DCA I
would humbly
withdraw from
this race and
join<br>
>> hands
with the rest
of the
continent to
see how we can
make the<br>
>> most
of the .africa
resource.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
> <br>
> Is DCA
capable of
this?<br>
> <br>
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