<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div>Is there a requirement to operate a service ? where , what question?</div><div>If you are referring to ICANN new gTLD program, it is about promoting competition for new registries and operating one is not a requirement, duh!<span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"> --Lerato Ma</div><div><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span
style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor@ghana.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Lerato <lerato.ma@yahoo.com>; "africann@afrinic.net" <africann@afrinic.net> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, December 1, 2012 5:59 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] .africa the saga continues<br> </font> </div> <br>
<div id="yiv1260449334"><div><div>Please advise which service DCA operates today</div><div><br></div><div>If you were operating a service you'll understand the question <br><br>On Dec 1, 2012, at 13:25, Lerato <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lerato.ma@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:lerato.ma@yahoo.com">lerato.ma@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div><span><span style="font-size:10pt;">How could facts be bad mouthing. It was a response made to a claim about the other bidder!</span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 10pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><span style="font-size:10pt;">Be open minded. </span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size:
10pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><span style="font-size:10pt;"><br></span></span></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> --Lerato Ma</div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px;"> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Nii Narku Quaynor <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:quaynor@ghana.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:quaynor@ghana.com">quaynor@ghana.com</a>><br> <b><span
style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Lerato <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lerato.ma@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:lerato.ma@yahoo.com">lerato.ma@yahoo.com</a>>; "<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, December 1, 2012 4:21 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] .africa the saga continues<br> </font> </div> <br>
<div id="yiv1260449334"><div><div>Bad mouthing.....?</div><div><br></div><div>Please advise which service DCA operates today as claim to fame?<br><br>On Dec 1, 2012, at 12:08, Lerato <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lerato.ma@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:lerato.ma@yahoo.com">lerato.ma@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><blockquote style="border:none;padding:0px;"><blockquote style="border:none;padding:0px;"><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span style="background-color:transparent;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;">The Uniforum bid is indigenous, with their own software, which is</span><br style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size:
16px;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;">tried and tested, run on their own infrastructure, which as tried</span><br style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;">and tested and thus has a cost
advantage...</span></span></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="border:none;padding:0px;"></blockquote><span style="font-size:13.600000381469727px;">http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/224513-.co.za-Uniforum-down</span><br><blockquote style="border:none;padding:0px;"><div style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 20px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal;"><span><span style="font-size:13.600000381469727px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250); color: rgb(0, 0, 191);">Well I try and convince my clients to rather take a .com and a .net</span></span></span></div><div style="background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250); font-size: 13px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif; font-style: normal;"><span><span style="font-size:13.600000381469727px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial,
Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250); color: rgb(0, 0, 191);"><br></span></span></span></div><div style="background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250); font-size: 13px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif; font-style: normal;"><span style="background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250); font-family: Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 191);">Uniforum is so full of #Fail they are like a bad 4chan joke.</span></div><div style="background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250); font-size: 13px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif; font-style: normal;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 191);"><span style="font-size:13px;">I am just annoyed that I can't do whois checks at the moment.</span><span style="font-size:13px;"> </span></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px; font-family: Verdana, Arial,
Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);">I stopped pushing .co.za domains when a client decided not to pay us, and Uniforum took the clients domain from us and gave it to the client. So that client can now get another IT company to do the work and then refuse to pay, and Uniforum will just move the domain AGAIN so that one by one Uniforum can cause companies to lose money.</span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 20px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal;"><span style="background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250); font-family: Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 191);"><br></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 12.800000190734863px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif; font-style: normal;"><span style="background-color: rgb(250, 250,
250); font-family: Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 191);">In the mean time Uniforum still makes us pay R50 for a domain, even if the client doesn't pay us. Forget the chance that a project may require more than 30 days to complete resulting in not all monies being collected before Uniforum deletes the domain (as they tell us we mustn't pay the R50 until the project is complete and the client has paid in full...)</span></div><div style="background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250); font-size: 13px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250, 250, 250);color:rgb(0, 0, 191);"><br></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 12.800000190734863px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250, 250,
250);color:rgb(0, 0, 191);">Uniforum takes action with out due process. They make a decision with out consultation and G_d help you if you try and</span></div><div style="background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250); font-size: 13px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif; font-style: normal;"><span><span style="font-size:13.600000381469727px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250); color: rgb(0, 0, 191);">take the matter up with ZADNA. They have no requirement to protect the businesses that make use of the .za namespace.</span></span></span></div><div style="background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250); font-size: 13px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);">Everything in .za oozes fail, so now I only push .com, .info,
.org and
.net.</span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 20px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal;"><span><span style="font-size:13.600000381469727px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250); color: rgb(0, 0, 191);"><br></span></span></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 12.800000190734863px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif; font-style: normal;"><span><span style="font-size:13.600000381469727px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250); color: rgb(0, 0, 191);">Unproudly South African!</span></span></span></div><div style="background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-size: 13px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif;
font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; background-color: transparent; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; background-color: transparent; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">I rest my case, and it is not the </span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;">entertaining Ms Bekelelelele that accused here Doc;)</span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-size: 10pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; background-color: transparent; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-size: 10pt;
font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; background-color: transparent; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"> ---Lerato Ma</span><br></div></blockquote><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><blockquote style="border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(16, 16, 255);padding-left:5px;"> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Dr Eberhard W Lisse <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:el@lisse.NA" target="_blank" href="mailto:el@lisse.NA">el@lisse.NA</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank"
href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, December 1, 2012 2:17 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[AfrICANN-discuss] .africa the saga continues<br> </font> </div> <br>
Point is, they are not.<br><br>Capable.<br><br>Of anything. Other than whining.<br><br><br>And, I stated at the AFRALO-Africann meeting in Prague that it<br>doesn't matter whether there are only 17 applications (and not 170<br>or 1700) but that we need to make a success out of them.<br><br>The Uniforum bid is indigenous, with their own software, which is<br>tried and tested, run on their own infrastructure, which as tried<br>and tested and thus has a cost advantage...<br><br>And as you and I have no personal interest in the matter, I myself<br>even think, the bid is as necessary as a goiter, it is of course<br>incumbent upon the entertaining Ms Bekelelelele to accuse. Which<br>she in her many incarnations does to everyone not agreeing with her.<br>Especially whenveracity is difficult to realign to reality.<br><br>el<br><br>On 2012-12-01 10:23 , Nii Narku Quaynor wrote:<br>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 6:24, Badru Ntege <<a rel="nofollow"
ymailto="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a> wrote: ><br>>> If I were DCA I would humbly withdraw from this race and join<br>>> hands with the rest of the continent to see how we can make the<br>>> most of the .africa resource.<br>>><br>>><br>> <br>> Is DCA capable of this?<br>> <br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>AfrICANN mailing list<br><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net">AfrICANN@afrinic.net</a><br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann</a><br><br><br> </div> </div> </blockquote></div>
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