<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14pt"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>It's always good to know where we come from.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Here is the way we followed to get at this idea of organizing a Webminar:</span></div><div class="yui_3_7_2_17_1351832678422_49" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>- step 1 : Debate on "<a href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/20121024_icann_africa_strategy_is_not_the_same_as_the_african_agenda/">The ICANN Africa Strategy" Is Not the Same as the 'African Agenda</a>"
(introduce by Gideon)</span></div><div class="yui_3_7_2_17_1351832678422_49" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>- Step 2 : New subject "<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">Let's be proactive</span>" base on the previous debate (introduce by Pierre D.)</span></div><div class="yui_3_7_2_17_1351832678422_49" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> 2.1 <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">ICT Policy</span> (introduce by Yassin)</span></span></div><div class="yui_3_7_2_17_1351832678422_49" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span class="tab"> 2.2. <span style="color:
rgb(0, 0, 255);">Internet Regulation</span></span><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"><span></span></span> (introduce by Pierre N.)</span></div><div class="yui_3_7_2_17_1351832678422_49" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>- Step 3 : New subject "<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">Internet regulation at national level?</span>" base on the compilation on the above outcome (introduce by Nii)</span></div><div class="yui_3_7_2_17_1351832678422_49" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> 3.1 Here come the idea of a <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">webinar</span> (introduce by Pierre N.)</span></span></div><div class="yui_3_7_2_17_1351832678422_49" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> 3.2 </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">Support by AfriNIC to organise that webinar</span> (introduce by Adiel)</span></div><div class="yui_3_7_2_17_1351832678422_49" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br></span></span></div><div class="yui_3_7_2_17_1351832678422_49" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Dear </span></span><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Badru</span></span>, that is a brief summary of our
discussions.</span></span></div><div class="yui_3_7_2_17_1351832678422_49" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Your question "</span><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Out of curiosity what is the Agenda for this webinar ??</span>" : We are all invited to contribute to the development of the Agenda. <br></span></div><div class="yui_3_7_2_17_1351832678422_49" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div class="yui_3_7_2_17_1351832678422_49" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Today, another subject was proposed by Nii : "African Governments, Internet and Governance". <span style="color:
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<div class="yiv98217159MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Out of curiosity what is the Agenda for this webinar ??</span></div>
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<div class="yiv98217159MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">And what would be the end in mind. What exactly do we want to achieve ???</span></div>
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<div class="yiv98217159MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> africann-bounces@afrinic.net [mailto:africann-bounces@afrinic.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>adamou s. nacer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 01, 2012 9:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> africann@afrinic.net<br>
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<div class="yiv98217159MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;">I am interested too.<br>
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<div class="yiv98217159MsoNormal">On 31 October 2012 21:25, Y Mshana2003 <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ymshana2003@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ymshana2003@gmail.com">ymshana2003@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="yiv98217159MsoNormal">can it be after 1700hrs West African time please? </div>
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<div class="yiv98217159MsoNormal">Yassin<br>
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Pierre Lotis NANKEP <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lnankep@yahoo.fr" target="_blank" href="mailto:lnankep@yahoo.fr">lnankep@yahoo.fr</a>> wrote:<br>
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Regarding the <b>webinar</b>, I am ready. Count me amongst the participants.</span></div>
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<b>Envoyé le :</b> Mercredi 31 octobre 2012 9h14<br>
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On 2012-10-31, at 09:48 AM, Pierre Lotis NANKEP <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lnankep@yahoo.fr" target="_blank" href="mailto:lnankep@yahoo.fr">lnankep@yahoo.fr</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div class="yiv98217159MsoNormal">on IP address and related issues. The working groups also have a mailing </div>
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<div class="yiv98217159MsoNormal">regulators doing right now to encourage Network Operator in their </div>
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<div class="yiv98217159MsoNormal">Finally I would like to take on your suggestion to have a webminar session </div>
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