<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; "><div><div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">The good thing, Pierre, is that you have some optimism about the "second project". I have it too, though, I don't feel it's a premature baby. I think it's a normal baby, an infant and therefore it's in a normal state fragile state. Its growth & success in life will depend on the parents (ICANN) & the bigger family (called African internet community)!</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><br></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Regards,</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Vika</div></div></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Pierre Lotis NANKEP <<a href="mailto:lnankep@yahoo.fr">lnankep@yahoo.fr</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span> Pierre Lotis NANKEP <<a href="mailto:lnankep@yahoo.fr">lnankep@yahoo.fr</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Thursday 25 October 2012 11:57 PM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> "<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> Adamou Nacer <<a href="mailto:adamou.nacer@gmail.com">adamou.nacer@gmail.com</a>>, Vika Mpisane <<a href="mailto:vika@zadna.org.za">vika@zadna.org.za</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The "ICANN Africa Strategy" Is Not the Same as the 'African Agenda'<br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>My dear Adamou,<br><br>The first project (African Agenda) would have died at birth.<br>The second project (ICANN Africa Strategy) is poorly designed and probably would not have a long life. It looks like a premature baby.<br>But fortunately some premature babies can succeed in life. In any case, we want the best for this second project and are ready to fly to his rescue.<br><br>Best regards</span></div><div> </div><div>--<br>Pierre Lotis NANKEP<br>IT Engineer / ANTIC<br>Web : <a href="http://www.antic.cm">http://www.antic.cm</a><br>Email (Pro) : <a href="mailto:pierre.nankep@antic.cm">pierre.nankep@antic.cm</a><br>GSM : +237 77 66 10 07<br></div> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b> Vika Mpisane <<a href="mailto:vika@zadna.org.za">vika@zadna.org.za</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">À :</span></b> <a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> Jeudi 25 octobre 2012 14h12<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b> Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The "ICANN Africa Strategy" Is Not the Same as the 'African Agenda'<br> </font> </div> <br><div id="yiv1864871506"><div><div><div><div>Agreed. I suppose in fact the ICANN Africa Strategy has practically become the channel for Africa & the "African Agenda" (whatever that is, really). The issues are not new at all, but hopefully the new ICANN leadership is keen to put its money into this…as a single, unduplicated effort.</div><div><div><font class="yiv1864871506Apple-style-span"><font class="yiv1864871506Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><br></font></font></div><div><font class="yiv1864871506Apple-style-span"><font class="yiv1864871506Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Regards,</font></font></div><div><font class="yiv1864871506Apple-style-span"><font class="yiv1864871506Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Vika</font></font></div></div></div></div><div><font class="yiv1864871506Apple-style-span"><font class="yiv1864871506Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><br></font></font></div><span id="yiv1864871506OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:left;color:black;BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOTTOM:0in;PADDING-LEFT:0in;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BORDER-RIGHT:medium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">From: </span> Adamou Nacer <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:adamou.nacer@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:adamou.nacer@gmail.com">adamou.nacer@gmail.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold;">Reply-To: </span> <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold;">Date: </span> Thursday 25 October 2012 2:04 PM<br><span style="font-weight:bold;">To: </span> <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject: </span> Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The "ICANN Africa Strategy" Is Not the Same as the 'African Agenda'<br></div><div><br></div><div>
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<div class="yiv1864871506moz-cite-prefix">And also that we don't need two
initiatives that try to solve the same problem. Probably, it would
be better to have the two projects to merge and then avoid wasting
energy and resources.<br>
Just an opinion.<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Le 25/10/2012 12:50, Vika Mpisane a écrit :<br>
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<div>At least we can agree both initiatives (African agenda
& African strategy) are about advancing Africa's
participation at ICANN regardless of who's behind them…</div>
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<div><font class="yiv1864871506Apple-style-span"><font class="yiv1864871506Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Regards,</font></font></div>
<div><font class="yiv1864871506Apple-style-span"><font class="yiv1864871506Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><span class="yiv1864871506Apple-style-span" style="font-size:14px;"><br>
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<div><b>Vika Mpisane</b> | Tel: +27 11 314 0077</div>
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PADDING-LEFT:0in;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BORDER-RIGHT:medium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">From: </span> Gideon <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:gideonrop@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:gideonrop@gmail.com">gideonrop@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold;">Date: </span> Thursday 25
October 2012 8:31 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold;">To: </span> <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject: </span>
[AfrICANN-discuss] The "ICANN Africa Strategy" Is Not the Same
as the 'African Agenda'<br>
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york', times, serif;"><span>
<h3 style="padding:0px;margin:0px;border:0px none;line-height:1.3em;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><font><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/20121024_icann_africa_strategy_is_not_the_same_as_the_african_agenda/" style="outline:medium none;color:rgb(128,0,0);">The "ICANN Africa Strategy" Is Not the
Same as the 'African Agenda'</a></font></h3>
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Gideon Rop<br>
DotConnectAfrica<br>
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:57:05 -0400 (EDT)<br>
From: Esam Abulkhirat <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:esamabulkhirat@about.me" target="_blank" href="mailto:esamabulkhirat@about.me">esamabulkhirat@about.me</a>><br>
Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Africa at ICANN - Continent on
the Move<br>
To: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a><br> Message-ID: <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:8CF7FD44AF92687-1E94-25A6B@webmail-d039.sysops.aol.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:8CF7FD44AF92687-1E94-25A6B@webmail-d039.sysops.aol.com">8CF7FD44AF92687-1E94-25A6B@webmail-d039.sysops.aol.com</a>><br>
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Africa at ICANN - Continent on the Move<br>
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Acting Director,<br>
Information Security Directorate,<br>
Communications and Informatics Ministry,<br>
Tripoli-LIBYA<br>
GSM <a href="" rel="nofollow">+218
92 7244938</a><br>
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Dear all,<br>
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Please find below a full listing of opportunities currently
available at<br>
the AVU. Kindly also forward to your networks.<br>
<br>
* Manager Academic Program Development and
Delivery<br>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/manager-academic-program-dev%0Aelopment-and-delivery.html">http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/manager-academic-program-dev<br>
elopment-and-delivery.html</a><br>
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* Manager Technology, Teaching and Learning
Resources<br>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/manager-technology-teaching-%0Aand-learning-resources.html">http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/manager-technology-teaching-<br>
and-learning-resources.html</a><br>
<br>
* Senior Education Programs Coordinator<br>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/senior-education-programs-co%0Aordinator.html">http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/senior-education-programs-co<br> ordinator.html</a><br>
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* Senior OER Officer - Re-Advertised<br>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/senior-oer-officer-re-advert%0Aised.html">http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/senior-oer-officer-re-advert<br>
ised.html</a><br>
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* Francophone Program Officer<br>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/francophone-program-officer.%0Ahtml">http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/francophone-program-officer.<br>
html</a><br>
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* Francophone ICT Officer<br>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/francophone-ict-officer.htm">http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/francophone-ict-officer.htm</a><br>
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* Instructional Designer (2 positions)<br>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/instructional-designer-2-pos%0Aitions.html">http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/instructional-designer-2-pos<br>
itions.html</a><br>
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* Technical Lead and Implementation Coordinator
of the<br>
Revised AVU Websites<br>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/technical-lead-and-implement%0Aation-coordinator-of-the-revised-avu-websites.html">http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/technical-lead-and-implement<br>
ation-coordinator-of-the-revised-avu-websites.html</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
You can also view all the positions on our website<br>
<<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.avu.org/List/Employment-Opportunities/">http://www.avu.org/List/Employment-Opportunities/</a>>
and on LinkedIn<br>
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op_nav_careers<br>
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Best Wishes,<br>
<br>
Declan Wakhu Ottaro<br>
<br>
Sr ICT Officer | African Virtual University<br>
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t: @avu_org |f: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://facebook.com/AfricanVirtualUniversity">facebook.com/AfricanVirtualUniversity</a>
| g+: African<br>
Virtual University<br>
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Mr. Esam Abulkhirat (MSc)<br>
Acting Director,<br>
Information Security Directorate,<br>
Communications and Informatics Ministry,<br>
Tripoli-LIBYA<br>
GSM <a href="" rel="nofollow">+218
92 7244938</a><br>
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From: Y Mshana2003 <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ymshana2003@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ymshana2003@gmail.com">ymshana2003@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest, Vol 68,
Issue 100<br>
To: Gideon <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:gideonrop@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:gideonrop@gmail.com">gideonrop@gmail.com</a>>,
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Greetings Gedion.<br>
Please give your energy to things that matter. Ignore
distractions.<br>
Good luck:-)<br>
Yassin<br>
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>From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.<br>
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Gideon <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:gideonrop@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:gideonrop@gmail.com">gideonrop@gmail.com</a>>
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Pierre,<br>
<br>
Thanks for your reply. I am glad the info can be useful.
Not to be defending myself it is me posting and one can
verify by the IP address. Sophia is not even in Kenya
currently. Have no idea what his problem is with us, but it
seems like with everyone else as well.<br>
<br>
Gideon Rop.<br>
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DotConnectAfrica<br>
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From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:el@lisse.NA" target="_blank" href="mailto:el@lisse.NA">el@lisse.NA</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest, Vol 68,
Issue 90<br>
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That may be so, but is not cybersecurity/cyberwar.<br>
<br>
Just business practice.<br>
<br>
el<br>
<br>
On 2012-10-23 07:59 , Kayode Yussuf wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> I join my voice to say there is a lot to attack in
Africa. As<br>
> long as you digitize information and that information
has any sort<br>
> of value, then you have to protect it.<br>
><br>
> Kayode Yussuf<br>
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From: Omo Oaiya <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:omo@datasphir.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:omo@datasphir.com">omo@datasphir.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest, Vol 68,
Issue 90<br>
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How so? Doesn't cyberwar include stealing classified
information by a<br>
politically motivated attacker?<br>
<br>
On 23 October 2012 17:46, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:el@lisse.na" target="_blank" href="mailto:el@lisse.na">el@lisse.na</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
> That may be so, but is not cybersecurity/cyberwar.<br>
><br>
> Just business practice.<br>
><br>
> el<br>
><br>
> On 2012-10-23 07:59 , Kayode Yussuf wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Hi all,<br>
> ><br>
> > I join my voice to say there is a lot to attack in
Africa. As<br>
> > long as you digitize information and that
information has any sort<br>
> > of value, then you have to protect it.<br>
> ><br>
> > Kayode Yussuf<br>
><br>
><br>
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:59:26 +0100 (BST)<br>
From: Pierre Lotis NANKEP <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lnankep@yahoo.fr" target="_blank" href="mailto:lnankep@yahoo.fr">lnankep@yahoo.fr</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest, Vol 68,
Issue 92<br>
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Gideon (I don't care if it is Sophia or anybody else) yes of
course, that article addresses one dimension of that
critical issue (cybersecurity/cybecrime).<br>
Thanks for sharing this with us.<br>
<br>
<br>
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Envoyé le : Mardi 23 octobre 2012 15h12<br>
Objet : [AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest, Vol 68,
Issue 92<br>
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Hi Pierre and all,<br>
<br>
I think this article is a good addition to what you are
looking for ; -<br>
<br>
Emerging Cyber-Security Threats and Implications for the
Private Sector <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/20121013_emerging_cybersecurity_threats_and_implications_for_private_sector/">http://www.circleid.com/posts/20121013_emerging_cybersecurity_threats_and_implications_for_private_sector/</a><br> <br>
Gideon Rop,<br>
DotConnectAfrica.<br>
<br>
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>Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 07:58:45 +0100 (BST)<br>
>From: Pierre Lotis NANKEP <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lnankep@yahoo.fr" target="_blank" href="mailto:lnankep@yahoo.fr">lnankep@yahoo.fr</a>><br>
>Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving
gradually towards<br>
> cyber war<br>
>To: "<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>"
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>Envoyé le : Lundi 22 octobre 2012 23h13<br>
>Objet : Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving
gradually towards cyber war<br>
><br>
><br>
>Hello Colleagues,<br>
><br>
>I think it will be very naive to think there is nothing
to attack in Africa with the numerous e governmental portals
coming up and also as a lot of governmental data centre are
been developed, these are systems that can be attacked. <br>
><br>
>The fact remains their is still a scramble for
resources in our continent, the recent crisis between South
Sudan and Sudan says a lot. The role of China as an
emerging force technologically is their for all to see, 'How
the ICANN community engages China come the 46th ICANN
Meeting next year will be interesting as China with Heuwei
is playing a key role within Africa network communication
Infrastructure today. <br>
><br>
>Am not been paranoid but but Africa can be prone to
attack it can be economic sabotage or multi nationals
playing at each other etc, the billions Angola are going to
pump on the electricity sector means technically a lot of this new grid will managed through computer networks, If
Dos Santos achieves his aim that grid he plans to set up for
all Angolans to have electricity will rely a lot on Computer
systems infrastructure that need to be rigid and secured,
but we can be prone, the sooner we realise our systems need
better protection our cyber laws and initiatives need to
conform with International standards like the initiatives
taken by Mauritius the better for us all.<br>
><br>
>My 0.00001% contribution to this interesting topic.<br>
><br>
>Peace<br>
><br>
>Poncelet<br>
>'<br>
> <br>
><br>
><br>
>On 22 October 2012 18:33, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:el@lisse.na" target="_blank" href="mailto:el@lisse.na">el@lisse.na</a>>
wrote:<br>
><br>
>What is there to attack in Africa?<br>
>><br>
>>el<br>
>><br>
>>On 2012-10-22 17:49 , Claude Essomba wrote:<br>
>>> Thanks Pierre ,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I really welcome this posted article. The
question that I am<br>
>>> asking regarding Africa is as follow : Are we
ready to face such<br>
>>> attacks ? Maybe we should like the US , Europe
and other to<br>
>>> Simulate such attacks at the gov level to
understand what could be<br>
>>> the impact.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Regards<br>
>>><br>
>>> *CLAUDE VINCENT DE PAUL ESSOMBA*<br>
>><br>
>><br>
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>Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:14:37 +0100 (BST)<br>
>From: Pierre Lotis NANKEP <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lnankep@yahoo.fr" target="_blank" href="mailto:lnankep@yahoo.fr">lnankep@yahoo.fr</a>><br>
>Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving
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> cyber war<br>
>To: Claude Essomba <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:claudeessomba@yahoo.ca" target="_blank" href="mailto:claudeessomba@yahoo.ca">claudeessomba@yahoo.ca</a>>,
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>Thank you to Claude and Poncelet for your valuable
contributions.<br>
><br>
>To go in the same direction and demonstrate that the
issues of cyberwar is global, and that Africa is not
excluded, I would like to share with you a book “The
Quest for Cyber Peace†that was suggested to me by
Alexander NTOKO of ITU : <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.itu.int/pub/S-GEN-WFS.01-1-2011">http://www.itu.int/pub/S-GEN-WFS.01-1-2011</a>
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><br>
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>Envoyé le : Mardi 23 octobre 2012 7h26<br>
>Objet : Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving
gradually towards cyber war<br>
><br>
><br>
>Great I am glad we are moving forward with our
discussion. Critical infrastructure to me means any
related ICT infrastructure supporting african countries
critical business that if affected could have a large impact
to the level that nothing will work. ie Airport , TV, Banks
, Telecommunication , Applications for custom or application
for salaries payments. In fact only risks analysis will help
to identify such infrastructure. That is why vulnerability
assessment and Penetration testing services are important to
minimise the risks related to the critical indentified
infrastructure.<br>
>Â <br>
>Regards<br>
>Â <br>
>CLAUDE VINCENT DE PAUL ESSOMBA<br>
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>Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 2:54:16 AM<br>
>Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving
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>....second attempt and still no answer? It's tiresome
reading and not making progress <br>
><br>
>On Oct 22, 2012, at 23:28, Y Mshana2003 <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ymshana2003@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ymshana2003@gmail.com">ymshana2003@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>Btw Africa has other values to protect beyond the
developing minimal digital infrastructure which is now
becoming important and about 99% did without until 1980s<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>Keep on discussing please constructively.<br>
>>Yassin<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>Dr Eberhard W Lisse <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:el@lisse.NA" target="_blank" href="mailto:el@lisse.NA">el@lisse.NA</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>And that infrastructure would be, what?<br>
>><br>
>>el<br>
>><br>
>>On 2012-10-22 23:18 , Claude Essomba wrote:<br>
>>> Dear Dr Eberhard W Lisse ,<br>
>>>Â <br>
>>> Thanks for your<br>
> reaction. The minimum for most of the countries<br>
>>> to be protected is what we call critical
infrastructure. A<br>
>>> simulation could include the impact when the
critical<br>
>>> infrastructure is affected as it was the case
for the Estonia<br>
>>> again Russia.<br>
>>>Â <br>
>>> Regards<br>
>>>Â <br>
>>> *CLAUDE VINCENT DE PAUL ESSOMBA*<br>
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