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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Bouba,<br>
good point my brother. I add my voice to what you said.<br>
In other communities I was part of, this kind of selection is
conducted by nominations. And in general, the selected persons
are the more contributing one.<br>
I think we really need to define a kind of "constitution" that
state how we manage this kind of stuff.<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Le 25/10/2012 09:56, bouba a écrit :<br>
</div>
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cite="mid:1351155377.11680.YahooMailNeo@web132404.mail.ird.yahoo.com"
type="cite">
<div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:bookman
old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt">
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">Hello to you
all,</span></span></div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">This is my first
time to interven here
but I am following the debate for some time.</span></span></div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">I don't know why
sometimes some of our
brothers are surprised that some important decisions are
taken
without us, or without our point of view. </span></span></div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;"><br>
</span></span>
</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">Oh brother
Gideon, I do not know why
you are surprised that The "ICANN Africa Strategy" Is Not
the Same as the 'African Agenda'.</span></span></div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"></span><span
style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">I remember some
relevant interventions
made before by some like Pierre Lotis NANKEP on this
subject.</span></span></div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;"><br>
</span></span>
</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">We pass our time
to congratulate each
other as a fellow to attend this or that, but the issue is
somewhere
else. </span></span></div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;"></span></span><span
style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">Some of our
“experts” congratulate
themselves to travel and physically meet to develop or
even give
their views on this strategy. So I am wondering where is
our issue?
Travelling or developing our strategy?</span></span></div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;"><br>
</span></span>
</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">If our goal is
to develop the strategy,
then I think we have to dismiss this approach. </span></span></div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;"><br>
</span></span>
</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">1- Firstly, we
choose a wrong
methodology to compose our group of experts. </span></span></div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;"><br>
</span></span>
</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">I saw la list of
our experts. I don't
see the way how they were chosen. </span></span></div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;"></span></span><span
style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">The transparent
methodology is make a
something said “call of tender or call for applications”
with
some relevant criterias concerning the subject. And it has
to be
opened and published everywhere in all different official
language in
Africa (I know English is working language).</span></span></div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"> </div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;"><br>
</span></span></div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size:
16px; font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; background-color:
transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size:
16px;"><span style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">That list of
African experts is
composed mainly of one region (West Africa). Some regions
are
represented as cosmetics. Central Africa, for example, I
wonder how
its representative was chosen. We know him competent in
several
domains but not in developing strategies.</span></span></div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;"><br>
</span></span>
</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">Do not hesitate
to get away from this
non-constructive way of choosing our friends and buddies
instead of
going through a call for applications. This method can not
help us
choose ambassadors can adequately defend our interests.</span></span></div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;"><br>
</span></span>
</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">2- Secondly, we
don't need to travel to
Toronto or anywhere out of the continent to develop our
strategy. </span></span></div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;"><br>
</span></span>
</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">We don't need
even to travel for that.
Why don't we use that tool call “Internet” to
describe/highlight
our vision, our objectives and goals.</span></span></div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;"></span></span><span
style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">After that, we
can define our
pillars/axis, then programmes and projets that could help
us to
achieve our goals. </span></span></div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;"><br>
</span></span>
</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">3- and finally,</span></span><span
style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;"> I think in the
call for applications,
we should put as requirements, if the candidate is not a
true-recognized expert in development of strategy, he must
have at
least to participate in the development of IT strategy in
his country
of origin or residence.</span></span></div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;"><br>
</span></span>
</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">May Allah guide
us to better defend the
interests of our region.</span></span></div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0cm"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span
style="font-family: Courier
New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">Peace be upon
you all.</span></span></div>
<div><span></span></div>
<div> </div>
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Eng. Djamaa BOUBA<br>
Director of Normalisation and Cooperation<br>
National Agency for ICTs<br>
Yaoundé-Cameroun<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b>
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[AfrICANN-discuss] The "ICANN Africa Strategy" Is Not
the Same as the 'African Agenda'<br>
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Acting Director,<br>
Information Security Directorate,<br>
Communications and Informatics Ministry,<br>
Tripoli-LIBYA<br>
GSM <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="" rel="nofollow">+218
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Dear all,<br>
<br>
Please find below a full listing of opportunities
currently available at<br>
the AVU. Kindly also forward to your networks.<br>
<br>
* Manager Academic Program Development and
Delivery<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
target="_blank"
href="http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/manager-academic-program-development-and-delivery.html">http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/manager-academic-program-dev<br>
elopment-and-delivery.html</a><br>
<br>
* Manager Technology, Teaching and
Learning Resources<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
target="_blank"
href="http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/manager-technology-teaching-and-learning-resources.html">http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/manager-technology-teaching-<br>
and-learning-resources.html</a><br>
<br>
* Senior Education Programs Coordinator<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
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href="http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/senior-education-programs-coordinator.html">http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/senior-education-programs-co<br>
ordinator.html</a><br>
<br>
* Senior OER Officer - Re-Advertised<br>
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href="http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/senior-oer-officer-re-advertised.html">http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/senior-oer-officer-re-advert<br>
ised.html</a><br>
<br>
* Francophone Program Officer<br>
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href="http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/francophone-program-officer.html">http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/francophone-program-officer.<br>
html</a><br>
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* Francophone ICT Officer<br>
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<br>
* Instructional Designer (2 positions)<br>
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href="http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/instructional-designer-2-positions.html">http://www.avu.org/Employment-Opportunities/instructional-designer-2-pos<br>
itions.html</a><br>
<br>
* Technical Lead and Implementation
Coordinator of the<br>
Revised AVU Websites<br>
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ation-coordinator-of-the-revised-avu-websites.html</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
You can also view all the positions on our website<br>
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op_nav_careers<br>
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<br>
Best Wishes,<br>
<br>
Declan Wakhu Ottaro<br>
<br>
Sr ICT Officer | African Virtual University<br>
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Virtual University<br>
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Mr. Esam Abulkhirat (MSc)<br>
Acting Director,<br>
Information Security Directorate,<br>
Communications and Informatics Ministry,<br>
Tripoli-LIBYA<br>
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Greetings Gedion.<br>
Please give your energy to things that matter. Ignore
distractions.<br>
Good luck:-)<br>
Yassin<br>
<br>
<br>
>From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.<br>
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Pierre,<br>
<br>
Thanks for your reply. I am glad the info can be
useful. Not to be defending myself it is me posting
and one can verify by the IP address. Sophia is not
even in Kenya currently. Have no idea what his problem
is with us, but it seems like with everyone else as
well.<br>
<br>
Gideon Rop.<br>
<br>
DotConnectAfrica<br>
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:46:20 +0200<br>
From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:el@lisse.NA"><el@lisse.NA></a><br>
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest,
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That may be so, but is not cybersecurity/cyberwar.<br>
<br>
Just business practice.<br>
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el<br>
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On 2012-10-23 07:59 , Kayode Yussuf wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> I join my voice to say there is a lot to attack
in Africa. As<br>
> long as you digitize information and that
information has any sort<br>
> of value, then you have to protect it.<br>
><br>
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How so? Doesn't cyberwar include stealing classified
information by a<br>
politically motivated attacker?<br>
<br>
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> That may be so, but is not
cybersecurity/cyberwar.<br>
><br>
> Just business practice.<br>
><br>
> el<br>
><br>
> On 2012-10-23 07:59 , Kayode Yussuf wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Hi all,<br>
> ><br>
> > I join my voice to say there is a lot to
attack in Africa. As<br>
> > long as you digitize information and that
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Gideon (I don't care if it is Sophia or anybody else)
yes of course, that article addresses one dimension of
that critical issue (cybersecurity/cybecrime).<br>
Thanks for sharing this with us.<br>
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Envoyé le : Mardi 23 octobre 2012 15h12<br>
Objet : [AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest, Vol
68, Issue 92<br>
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Hi Pierre and all,<br>
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I think this article is a good addition to what you
are looking for ; -<br>
<br>
Emerging Cyber-Security Threats and Implications for
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>Envoyé le : Lundi 22 octobre 2012 23h13<br>
>Objet : Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving
gradually towards cyber war<br>
><br>
><br>
>Hello Colleagues,<br>
><br>
>I think it will be very naive to think there is
nothing to attack in Africa with the numerous e
governmental portals coming up and also as a lot of
governmental data centre are been developed, these are
systems that can be attacked. <br>
><br>
>The fact remains their is still a scramble for
resources in our continent, the recent crisis between
South Sudan and Sudan says a lot. The role of China
as an emerging force technologically is their for all
to see, 'How the ICANN community engages China come
the 46th ICANN Meeting next year will be interesting
as China with Heuwei is playing a key role within
Africa network communication Infrastructure today. <br>
><br>
>Am not been paranoid but but Africa can be prone
to attack it can be economic sabotage or multi
nationals playing at each other etc, the billions
Angola are going to pump on the electricity sector
means technically a lot of this new grid will
managed through computer networks, If Dos Santos
achieves his aim that grid he plans to set up for all
Angolans to have electricity will rely a lot on
Computer systems infrastructure that need to be rigid
and secured, but we can be prone, the sooner we
realise our systems need better protection our cyber
laws and initiatives need to conform with
International standards like the initiatives taken by
Mauritius the better for us all.<br>
><br>
>My 0.00001% contribution to this interesting
topic.<br>
><br>
>Peace<br>
><br>
>Poncelet<br>
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> <br>
><br>
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>On 22 October 2012 18:33, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <<a
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>What is there to attack in Africa?<br>
>><br>
>>el<br>
>><br>
>>On 2012-10-22 17:49 , Claude Essomba wrote:<br>
>>> Thanks Pierre ,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I really welcome this posted article.
The question that I am<br>
>>> asking regarding Africa is as follow :
Are we ready to face such<br>
>>> attacks ? Maybe we should like the US ,
Europe and other to<br>
>>> Simulate such attacks at the gov level to
understand what could be<br>
>>> the impact.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Regards<br>
>>><br>
>>> *CLAUDE VINCENT DE PAUL ESSOMBA*<br>
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>Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is
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> cyber war<br>
>To: Claude Essomba <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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>Thank you to Claude and Poncelet for your valuable
contributions.<br>
><br>
>To go in the same direction and demonstrate that
the issues of cyberwar is global, and that Africa is
not excluded, I would like to share with you a book
“The Quest for Cyber Peace†that was suggested to
me by Alexander NTOKO of ITU : <a
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(in ENGLISH, ARABIC, CHINESE, SPANISH, FRENCH and
RUSSIAN).<br>
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>Regards.<br>
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>Â <br>
>--<br>
>Pierre Lotis NANKEP<br>
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>________________________________<br>
> De : Claude Essomba <<a
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>Envoyé le : Mardi 23 octobre 2012 7h26<br>
>Objet : Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is
moving gradually towards cyber war<br>
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>Great I am glad we are moving forward with our
discussion. Critical infrastructure to me means any
related ICT infrastructure supporting african
countries critical business that if affected could
have a large impact to the level that nothing will
work. ie Airport , TV, Banks , Telecommunication ,
Applications for custom or application for salaries
payments. In fact only risks analysis will help to
identify such infrastructure. That is why
vulnerability assessment and Penetration testing
services are important to minimise the risks related
to the critical indentified infrastructure.<br>
>Â <br>
>Regards<br>
>Â <br>
>CLAUDE VINCENT DE PAUL ESSOMBA<br>
>Founder and Principal Consultant GETSEC<br>
>Expert Cyber Sécurité-Cyber Criminalité CISSP;
CISM; ISO 27001 LA.Cameroun<br>
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>Information Security is determining what needs to
be protected and why, what it needs to be protected
from, and how to protect it for as long as it exists.<br>
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>From: Nii Narku Quaynor <<a
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>Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 2:54:16 AM<br>
>Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is
moving gradually towards cyber war<br>
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>....second attempt and still no answer? It's
tiresome reading and not making progress <br>
><br>
>On Oct 22, 2012, at 23:28, Y Mshana2003 <<a
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wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
>Btw Africa has other values to protect beyond the
developing minimal digital infrastructure which is now
becoming important and about 99% did without until
1980s<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>Keep on discussing please constructively.<br>
>>Yassin<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>Dr Eberhard W Lisse <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:el@lisse.NA"><el@lisse.NA></a> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>And that infrastructure would be, what?<br>
>><br>
>>el<br>
>><br>
>>On 2012-10-22 23:18 , Claude Essomba wrote:<br>
>>> Dear Dr Eberhard W Lisse ,<br>
>>>Â <br>
>>> Thanks for your<br>
> reaction. The minimum for most of the countries<br>
>>> to be protected is what we call critical
infrastructure. A<br>
>>> simulation could include the impact when
the critical<br>
>>> infrastructure is affected as it was the
case for the Estonia<br>
>>> again Russia.<br>
>>>Â <br>
>>> Regards<br>
>>>Â <br>
>>> *CLAUDE VINCENT DE PAUL ESSOMBA*<br>
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