Pierre,<br><br>Thanks for your reply. I am glad the info can be useful. Not to be
defending myself it is me posting and one can verify by the IP address.
Sophia is not even in Kenya currently. Have no idea what his problem is
with us, but it seems like with everyone else as well. <br><br>Gideon Rop.<br><br>DotConnectAfrica<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:04 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:africann-request@afrinic.net" target="_blank">africann-request@afrinic.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:46:20 +0200<br>
From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.NA><br>
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest, Vol 68, Issue 90<br>
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That may be so, but is not cybersecurity/cyberwar.<br>
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Just business practice.<br>
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el<br>
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On 2012-10-23 07:59 , Kayode Yussuf wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> I join my voice to say there is a lot to attack in Africa. As<br>
> long as you digitize information and that information has any sort<br>
> of value, then you have to protect it.<br>
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From: Omo Oaiya <<a href="mailto:omo@datasphir.com">omo@datasphir.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest, Vol 68, Issue 90<br>
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How so? Doesn't cyberwar include stealing classified information by a<br>
politically motivated attacker?<br>
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> That may be so, but is not cybersecurity/cyberwar.<br>
><br>
> Just business practice.<br>
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> el<br>
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> On 2012-10-23 07:59 , Kayode Yussuf wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Hi all,<br>
> ><br>
> > I join my voice to say there is a lot to attack in Africa. As<br>
> > long as you digitize information and that information has any sort<br>
> > of value, then you have to protect it.<br>
> ><br>
> > Kayode Yussuf<br>
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From: Pierre Lotis NANKEP <<a href="mailto:lnankep@yahoo.fr">lnankep@yahoo.fr</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest, Vol 68, Issue 92<br>
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Gideon (I don't care if it is Sophia or anybody else) yes of course, that article addresses one dimension of that critical issue (cybersecurity/cybecrime).<br>
Thanks for sharing this with us.<br>
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Envoyé le : Mardi 23 octobre 2012 15h12<br>
Objet : [AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest, Vol 68, Issue 92<br>
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Hi Pierre and all,<br>
<br>
I think this article is a good addition to what you are looking for ; -<br>
<br>
Emerging Cyber-Security Threats and Implications for the Private Sector <a href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/20121013_emerging_cybersecurity_threats_and_implications_for_private_sector/" target="_blank">http://www.circleid.com/posts/20121013_emerging_cybersecurity_threats_and_implications_for_private_sector/</a><br>
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Gideon Rop,<br>
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>Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 07:58:45 +0100 (BST)<br>
>From: Pierre Lotis NANKEP <<a href="mailto:lnankep@yahoo.fr">lnankep@yahoo.fr</a>><br>
>Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving gradually towards<br>
> cyber war<br>
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>Envoyé le : Lundi 22 octobre 2012 23h13<br>
>Objet : Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving gradually towards cyber war<br>
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>Hello Colleagues,<br>
><br>
>I think it will be very naive to think there is nothing to attack in Africa with the numerous e governmental portals coming up and also as a lot of governmental data centre are been developed, these are systems that can be attacked. <br>
><br>
>The fact remains their is still a scramble for resources in our continent, the recent crisis between South Sudan and Sudan says a lot. The role of China as an emerging force technologically is their for all to see, 'How the ICANN community engages China come the 46th ICANN Meeting next year will be interesting as China with Heuwei is playing a key role within Africa network communication Infrastructure today. <br>
><br>
>Am not been paranoid but but Africa can be prone to attack it can be economic sabotage or multi nationals playing at each other etc, the billions Angola are going to pump on the electricity sector means technically a lot of this new grid will managed through computer networks, If Dos Santos achieves his aim that grid he plans to set up for all Angolans to have electricity will rely a lot on Computer systems infrastructure that need to be rigid and secured, but we can be prone, the sooner we realise our systems need better protection our cyber laws and initiatives need to conform with International standards like the initiatives taken by Mauritius the better for us all.<br>
><br>
>My 0.00001% contribution to this interesting topic.<br>
><br>
>Peace<br>
><br>
>Poncelet<br>
>'<br>
> <br>
><br>
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>On 22 October 2012 18:33, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <<a href="mailto:el@lisse.na">el@lisse.na</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>What is there to attack in Africa?<br>
>><br>
>>el<br>
>><br>
>>On 2012-10-22 17:49 , Claude Essomba wrote:<br>
>>> Thanks Pierre ,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I really welcome this posted article. The question that I am<br>
>>> asking regarding Africa is as follow : Are we ready to face such<br>
>>> attacks ? Maybe we should like the US , Europe and other to<br>
>>> Simulate such attacks at the gov level to understand what could be<br>
>>> the impact.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Regards<br>
>>><br>
>>> *CLAUDE VINCENT DE PAUL ESSOMBA*<br>
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>From: Pierre Lotis NANKEP <<a href="mailto:lnankep@yahoo.fr">lnankep@yahoo.fr</a>><br>
>Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving gradually towards<br>
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>To: Claude Essomba <<a href="mailto:claudeessomba@yahoo.ca">claudeessomba@yahoo.ca</a>>, "<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>"<br>
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>Thank you to Claude and Poncelet for your valuable contributions.<br>
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>To go in the same direction and demonstrate that the issues of cyberwar is global, and that Africa is not excluded, I would like to share with you a book “The Quest for Cyber Peace†that was suggested to me by Alexander NTOKO of ITU : <a href="http://www.itu.int/pub/S-GEN-WFS.01-1-2011" target="_blank">http://www.itu.int/pub/S-GEN-WFS.01-1-2011</a> (in ENGLISH, ARABIC, CHINESE, SPANISH, FRENCH and RUSSIAN).<br>
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>Envoyé le : Mardi 23 octobre 2012 7h26<br>
>Objet : Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving gradually towards cyber war<br>
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>Great I am glad we are moving forward with our discussion. Critical infrastructure to me means any related ICT infrastructure supporting african countries critical business that if affected could have a large impact to the level that nothing will work. ie Airport , TV, Banks , Telecommunication , Applications for custom or application for salaries payments. In fact only risks analysis will help to identify such infrastructure. That is why vulnerability assessment and Penetration testing services are important to minimise the risks related to the critical indentified infrastructure.<br>
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>....second attempt and still no answer? It's tiresome reading and not making progress <br>
><br>
>On Oct 22, 2012, at 23:28, Y Mshana2003 <<a href="mailto:ymshana2003@gmail.com">ymshana2003@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
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>Btw Africa has other values to protect beyond the developing minimal digital infrastructure which is now becoming important and about 99% did without until 1980s<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>Keep on discussing please constructively.<br>
>>Yassin<br>
>><br>
>><br>
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>><br>
>>Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.NA> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>And that infrastructure would be, what?<br>
>><br>
>>el<br>
>><br>
>>On 2012-10-22 23:18 , Claude Essomba wrote:<br>
>>> Dear Dr Eberhard W Lisse ,<br>
>>>Â <br>
>>> Thanks for your<br>
> reaction. The minimum for most of the countries<br>
>>> to be protected is what we call critical infrastructure. A<br>
>>> simulation could include the impact when the critical<br>
>>> infrastructure is affected as it was the case for the Estonia<br>
>>> again Russia.<br>
>>>Â <br>
>>> Regards<br>
>>>Â <br>
>>> *CLAUDE VINCENT DE PAUL ESSOMBA*<br>
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